vicspec 25.11.2005 00:15 |
re: link thank-you Justin - about time somebody articulated that sentiment. piss off brian ya dick. |
caviar 25.11.2005 01:45 |
I totally agree. The recordings with R.Williams is awful, and I don't understand how he can back all these pseudo singers who want to sing Queen. Also would we have considered that McCartney touring with Ringo Star was the Beatles? Pink Floyd without Roger Waters wasn't PF. Queen without Freddie is even more than the Beatles without Lennon. It should have stopped or they should have formed a new band. They are ruining the legacy. fortunately it remains in records. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 25.11.2005 01:52 |
Yeah, it really is too bad that the legacy is being ruined. I'm also shocked to find that the tour is going to continue well into 2006! At this point, I say that it is time to give it up. If Brian and Roger and Paul Rodgers wanted to do a couple of shows, that would be one thing. But this is getting to be tiresome. I would have thought that the poor sales of Return of the Champions would have been enough to discourage them, but I guess not. |
Gunpowder Gelatine 25.11.2005 01:56 |
That sucks if it's true...especially since The Darkness have made it out to look like their such buddies even after Queen collaborated with Five. I sort of wonder whether it's a ploy to get publicity for the new album. Think this'll ever appear on Brian's soapbox? Somehow I doubt it... |
bitesthedust 25.11.2005 02:15 |
I think this story is a old one, but I do agree with what Justin Hawkins said. |
quicksilver mercury 25.11.2005 02:39 |
They should do whatever they can to stop it. Y O U A R E F U L L O F I T Yeah Right!!!!!!!!! What is your source other than a BS article any clown could post. How about something which can be verified. Rock on Queen + Paul Rodgers The Darkness are a bunch of hacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Lemmy 25.11.2005 02:45 |
Terrific, specialy coming from a bloke who's band is a copy-cat of stuff recorded some 30-odd years ago... (though I must admit that I agree too). |
deleted user 25.11.2005 02:51 |
well who is gonna remember the darkness after 40 years? it was brian's chioce if he wanted to appeal to younger generations who, would like young boybands of the time, 5ive arent the worst band in the world, but they're not the best either. dont slate brian for this, i understand what justin is sayin but it could just possibly be for publicity. |
GreatKingSam 25.11.2005 05:55 |
Justin is a very open fella, and is always talking about the things he doesnt like. You say he does it for publicity - but how many famous people dont say things for publicity? Look at Bono and all his charity work for instance. Anyway, chances are, Justin said it in a more loose comical way rather than the way the story built around it, probably by The Sun, suggests. I'd take it with a pinch of salt. But I do agree though, sort of. |
deleted user 25.11.2005 09:00 |
Didn't Brian say he had a dream with Freddie telling him he has to be there...he has to be there...Maybe F is saying he should continue if he wants or something. |
mayercury 25.11.2005 09:27 |
I don't think you can ever ruin their legacy |
Oszmercury 25.11.2005 09:28 |
I don't care, and by the way, the beatles is a different thing, so pf |
Jjeroen 25.11.2005 09:30 |
Ah, Brian is probably going to say that it was that rotten reporter again that placed this remark tooootally out of context. |
Bobby_brown 25.11.2005 09:33 |
Is there anything Brian, Roger or John can do that ruins Queen legacy? Wake up, boys and girls, not even those collaborations has made you deslike Queen legacy, so what's this all about? Take care |
Serry... 25.11.2005 09:44 |
Coldplay, The Darkness... Who's the next in the Queen fans' black list? :) |
kelbozs 25.11.2005 09:45 |
Bobby_brown wrote: Is there anything Brian, Roger or John can do that ruins Queen legacy? Wake up, boys and girls, not even those collaborations has made you deslike Queen legacy, so what's this all about? Take careDarling...you're so right.... and by the way Brian ever talked about this before none of this things where ideas of him .... but proposed to him.... and neither Brian, Roger, John didn't protest against it.... The only protest you got was johns about the Robbie William co-operation.... |
kelbozs 25.11.2005 09:50 |
jeroen wrote: Ah, Brian is probably going to say that it was that rotten reporter again that placed this remark tooootally out of context.Maybe it is...if you see all the good Justin Hawkins has ever said publicaly (tele, newspapers)about Brian... how come he would suddenly go bashing on him... does not make sence to me..... |
kelbozs 25.11.2005 09:51 |
kelbozs wrote:by the way this is BEE-ny writing on the mail address of Kelly...jeroen wrote: Ah, Brian is probably going to say that it was that rotten reporter again that placed this remark tooootally out of context.Maybe it is...if you see all the good Justin Hawkins has ever said publicaly (tele, newspapers)about Brian... how come he would suddenly go bashing on him... does not make sence to me..... |
Sherwood Forest 25.11.2005 09:54 |
hey no one fucking asked the darknedd singer what he thought- he can suck it i like freddie too but Brian can do what he wants theyre not calling themselves Queen- theyre calling it Queen + Pual Rodgers and as much as i dont like PR singing Queen songs no one asked him and i could care less what he thinks- i love freddie to by the way |
GreatKingSam 25.11.2005 10:00 |
JamieSureWould wrote: hey no one fucking asked the darknedd singer what he thought- he can suck it i like freddie too but Brian can do what he wants theyre not calling themselves Queen- theyre calling it Queen + Pual Rodgers and as much as i dont like PR singing Queen songs no one asked him and i could care less what he thinks- i love freddie to by the wayWhat a mature response. |
deleted user 25.11.2005 10:47 |
it seems kind of weird that justin said that....aren't they close Queen and The Darkness. i thought they were. Weren't The Darkness going to be the special guest on Hyde Park concert?? nothing can ruin Queens legacy , get real!!!!!! i'l support anything Brian and Roger do especially Queen +PR :) |
Sherwood Forest 25.11.2005 10:49 |
GreatKingSam wrote:sorry i got madJamieSureWould wrote: hey no one fucking asked the darknedd singer what he thought- he can suck it i like freddie too but Brian can do what he wants theyre not calling themselves Queen- theyre calling it Queen + Pual Rodgers and as much as i dont like PR singing Queen songs no one asked him and i could care less what he thinks- i love freddie to by the wayWhat a mature response. |
boy of destiny 25.11.2005 10:59 |
Here in North America (Canada) the only "Queen" we get is the real thing. We've never had that crap by 5ive, Electric Six, etc forced on us to taint the legacy. I love Brian May, but Hawkins is entitled to his opinion and maybe I'd feel the same way if I had to listen to one "flavour of the month" band after another butcher Queen songs with the band's approval. |
john bodega 25.11.2005 11:08 |
On the subject of assholes ruining Queen... that Electric Six guy really should have tried "I Want to Break Free", not "Radio Ga-Ga". Say what you will about how 80's the track is, but Radio Gaga has a wonderful melody and totally does not suit that kind of singing. I Want to Break Free might have been passable with their style... but anyway. I could care less about what Justin Hawkins did or did not say. Keep in mind, this is a newspaper quoting him, he might never have said it. As much as I think the 5ive thing sucks balls... come ON. Who is this whelp to say what Queen is or isn't? Just because he's headbanged in a car to Bohemian Rhapsody like the rest of us doesn't mean shit, and certainly doesn't mean he's in a position to say what Brian May should or shouldn't do... to wit, who cares?!?! |
doremi 25.11.2005 11:21 |
Ironically, The Darkness not only used Queen's former producer Roy Thomas Baker, Freddie's piano, and one of Queen's former recording studios on their NEW album, but also... ...EVERY single piece of press I have read on the Darkness's new album, ''One Way Ticket To Hell And Back'' says that the entire album, most of the songs are obviously Queen influenced, and some press even allude that The darkness have NO original sound of their own and are a one trick pony, whose every sound COPIES Queen... ...but since The darkness are NOT the original thing (that is Queen), they are just copycats and come off as either 1) A great way to boost Queen's profile with new audience by all the press/cross promotion Queen is getting from being mentioned in all the press for The Darkness. 2) That The Darkness are ruining Queen's legacy by making people unfamiliar with Queen, think that The Darkness's filtered watered down rip off of Queen's sound, is how Queen sound, but Queen don't sound like The Darkness, Queen are/were talented originals. Frankly I'm getting a bit tired of The Darkness, but if it helps raise QUEEN's Profile....great! Queen is getting TONS of great free/cross promotion and boostinf of their profile and awareness to today's audience since the pres keep citing Queen in all of The Darkness's press. |
Sharon G. 25.11.2005 12:09 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: Ironically, The Darkness not only used Queen's former producer Roy Thomas Baker, Freddie's piano, and one of Queen's former recording studios on their NEW album, but also... ...EVERY single piece of press I have read on the Darkness's new album, ''One Way Ticket To Hell And Back'' says that the entire album, most of the songs are obviously Queen influenced, and some press even allude that The darkness have NO original sound of their own and are a one trick pony, whose every sound COPIES Queen... ...but since The darkness are NOT the original thing (that is Queen), they are just copycats and come off as either 1) A great way to boost Queen's profile with new audience by all the press/cross promotion Queen is getting from being mentioned in all the press for The Darkness. 2) That The Darkness are ruining Queen's legacy by making people unfamiliar with Queen, think that The Darkness's filtered watered down rip off of Queen's sound, is how Queen sound, but Queen don't sound like The Darkness, Queen are/were talented originals. Frankly I'm getting a bit tired of The Darkness, but if it helps raise QUEEN's Profile....great! Queen is getting TONS of great free/cross promotion and boostinf of their profile and awareness to today's audience since the pres keep citing Queen in all of The Darkness's press.Right on Arlene! |
Fenderek 25.11.2005 12:35 |
This "news" is like a year old. Maybe older... |
Mr.Jingles 25.11.2005 12:38 |
Justin Hawkins has by far ruined Queen's legacy more than Brian or Roger ever had. Sorry to burst you bubble 'Darkness' fans, but I have little respect for a band that carbon copies exactly what other bands have done for years. There's way too many bands who were influenced by Queen, and yet it seems like none of them sound exactly like Queen and rather have a sound of their own. Personally I think 'The Darkness' is a joke, and if they actually tried to come across as a comedy band like 'Spinal Tap' people would take their work more seriously. |
kohuept 25.11.2005 12:52 |
Zarathustra II wrote: Yeah, it really is too bad that the legacy is being ruined. I'm also shocked to find that the tour is going to continue well into 2006! At this point, I say that it is time to give it up. If Brian and Roger and Paul Rodgers wanted to do a couple of shows, that would be one thing. But this is getting to be tiresome. I would have thought that the poor sales of Return of the Champions would have been enough to discourage them, but I guess not.I don't really understand your comments. Right in the middle of your argument for Queen to quit, you mention that they are still touring - in the US, no doubt. How can a tour be tiresome if people are still going to see them? Just because people aren't keen to the experience on DVD doesn't mean they won't go see the show live. Who knows, maybe the US leg of the tour will be a massive flop. Then again, the "real thing" didn't tour here for last 2 albums, so I say great to the new incarnation for trying. To say that Brian is ruining Queen's legacy while they are going strong makes no sense to me. |
Boy Thomas Raker 25.11.2005 13:06 |
Since most of this board only functions in all things Queen, I will try to put it in perspective. Imagine the great Alfred Hitchcock directing the film 'Psycho', then 're-doing' it 3 or 4 times with the directors of Meatballs, Weekend at Bernie's and Lethal Weapon 4 because they were the hot directors of the day. Chances are they wouldn't top the iconic original, and they'd actually detract from it. That's Brian with WWRY and WATC. None of his collaborations have had an impact, or made anywhere close to a better song. So is the object to improve on a masterpiece or keep your name alive? It's the latter, and by attaching his name and performance to inferior artists who butcher key songs in the catalogue, it devalues the original. You never saw Da Vinci try to re-do the Mona Lisa or Spielberg re-do E.T. There's a reason for that. |
bitesthedust 25.11.2005 13:20 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:I agree with everything Linda has said here....and knowing her like I do I know her views on Q+PR and she knows mine. I have always said that for my perspective I don't agree with the tour in as much as the use of the Queen name, but Brian and Roger have done and will do whatever the hell they want regardless of my opinion, so I for one have not let it bother me and just ignored it all, to be truthful.vicspec wrote: re: link thank-you Justin - about time somebody articulated that sentiment. piss off brian ya dick.no YOU piss off you dick and you can take the shitty darkness' comments with ya. I AM PROUD TO SAY I AM ONE OF THE FEW WHO SUPPORTS BRIAN IN WHAT HE DOES. I love you, and I won't turn my back on you like the darkness and other so-called 'fans'. ugh, i'm too pissed off with all you arrogant bastards right now to even say anything else. I don't care if this isn't a mature enough response either, btw.. Queen have always done what they've wanted and they didn't let the disgusting press opr anyone else get in their way. It's exactly the same with Brian now, he can do whatever the fuck he wants and not the darkness, or anyone else in here can do a thing to stop him. To those of you that know me well, that is not to say I have not and will not wish you an enjoyable time at the shows, I just don't wish to participate. I do agree with Justin Hawkins' comments as mentioned earlier, he is entitled to his views but regardless of whether people agree or not with this alliance, it has happened and will continue to exist in the future. |
GreatKingSam 25.11.2005 13:31 |
Do any of you even listen to The Darkness? They really don't sound that much like Queen at the end of the day, it's just close mindedness once more. As Justin and Dan have both said, the reason they are using Roy Thomas Baker was down to a chance meeting. Anyway, in which instance, surely they sound more like Roy Thomas Baker than Queen, in theory? |
kohuept 25.11.2005 13:57 |
BHM 0271 wrote: ... or Spielberg re-do E.T. There's a reason for that....he did, though. Lucas also re-did Star Wars. We can also talk about how crap the new SW episodes are (if you feel that way), but at the end of the day, GL can buy and sell our asses with the money he made off them. That's not to say it was right, but it was his baby and he did what he wanted with it. Anyone who is less successful than George Lucas or Brian May really has no place to say what they should or shouldn't do. It would appear they're doing just fine on their own. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 25.11.2005 13:58 |
as always ARLENE R. WEISS AND LINDA OF THE VALLEY ARE RIGHT... anyway, I´ve got "Permission to Land" (yes, here in Perú is possible to get one copy) and I can say it´s pretty equal to Queen sound. |
DreaminQueen 25.11.2005 14:22 |
JamieSureWould wrote: hey no one fucking asked the darknedd singer what he thought- he can suck it i like freddie too but Brian can do what he wants theyre not calling themselves Queen- theyre calling it Queen + Pual Rodgers and as much as i dont like PR singing Queen songs no one asked him and i could care less what he thinks- i love freddie to by the way BINGO! I mean I FREAKING LOVE FREDDIE, but he is SADLY and COMPLETELY UNJUSTLY, no longer with us, but why should that stop Brian and Roger from doing what they do best?? And not to mention, those of u who say its terrible, are probably concentrating on the fact that Freddie is not there, you cannot expect it to be like their old shows with Freddie commanding the lead of the stage, because Paul is not Freddie, and for him to even try and imitate Freddie to please everyone else, wouldn't be right either, Mr. Rodgers just has his own style. I haven't seen it yet myself, but i highly doubt its as bad as some of you all are making it. AND I SUPPORT BRIAN MAY AND ROGER TOTALLY, AND IM SURE FREDDIE IS WATCHING THEM, AND IF THEY DIDNT THINK IT WAS RIGHT TO GO ON TOUR WITH PAUL, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SO, THE 4 OF THEM WERE QUIET IN TUNE WITH EACHOTHER AS FAR AS THAT GOES, AND YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE TOUR IS DOING WELL OR THEY WOULDNT BE EXTENDING IT. IM ONLY HOPING THEYLL COME MORE IN MY AREA OF THE US SO I CAN SEE THE SHOW MYSELF, BECAUSE I LOVE QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL NEVER GET TO ENJOY FREDDIE FRONTING THEM, BUT I LOVE ALL FOUR OF THEM, AND I AM SAD THAT JOHN WAS NOT GOING WITH THEM ON THIS TOUR AS WELL. As a side note, U CAN NEVER RUIN THE LEGACY OF QUEEN, SO U CAN BITE IT DARKNESS! *QUEEN FOREVER* |
teleman 25.11.2005 14:47 |
vicspec wrote: re: link thank-you Justin - about time somebody articulated that sentiment. piss off brian ya dick.Another wind up. This kind of crap just ruins Queenzone. BTW where is there a legit link to this so called quote. |
john bodega 25.11.2005 20:59 |
The only collaboration I ever half-enjoyed was the one with John Farnham - and *only* for the bit where he wasn't singing. I just liked the bigger drums and orchestrated guitar. It was interesting. |
NOTWMEDDLE 25.11.2005 22:09 |
caviar wrote: I totally agree. The recordings with R.Williams is awful, and I don't understand how he can back all these pseudo singers who want to sing Queen. Also would we have considered that McCartney touring with Ringo Star was the Beatles? Pink Floyd without Roger Waters wasn't PF. Queen without Freddie is even more than the Beatles without Lennon. It should have stopped or they should have formed a new band. They are ruining the legacy. fortunately it remains in records.Dude, Syd Barrett started Pink Floyd and not Roger Waters. Syd, along with Roger Waters, Nick Mason and Rick Wright and Bob Klose started PF in 1965 but PF officially started in 1967. Many people felt Pink Floyd ended when Syd Barrett left just as the same as those who felt it when Roger left. David Gilmour was a FIFTH member in early 1968 but he became Syd's replacement by default. DG's voice, guitar work, production and arrangement helped the PF sound become what it did. I happen to like all ERAs of PF with or without Roger or Syd. The Division Bell was the best PF album IMHO since Wish You Were Here. I think Paul Rodgers saved Brian May and Roger Taylor IMHO! Paul is a great singer and is well-respected in the US. John Deacon retired in early 1998 after the No One But You video shoot. Rush without Geddy Lee or Alex Lifeson would be ridiculous as they are the constants to Rush's career. They existed before Neil Peart came in but knowing Geddy and Alex if Neil died Rush would end as he is their lyrical brains and drum extraordinaire. Justin Hawkins sounds like Tiny Tim on acid. The Darkness' musically reminds me of AC/DC and Humble Pie but if they had TWO singers then the band would have a better chance of maintaining US success as America are going to drop The Darkness like a bad habit. Many people said Genesis ended when Peter Gabriel left and when Steve Hackett left. They ended IMHO when Phil Collins left in 1996. I know Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were the backbone of Genesis but replacing a caliber guy like Phil with a no-name dude was blasphemy. Styx without Dennis DeYoung is sacrilege. DDY was the man who created Styx. Tommy Shaw was a second generation member and James Young was the last original member to join Styx. Many people say Supertramp suck without Roger Hodgson but it was Rick Davies who started the band and discovered Roger. What I liked about them was the ping-pong of style with Roger's nasal tenor and Rick raspy baritone to create a great sound. Don't start on Van Halen as without David Lee Roth or Hagar, they are despicable. |
NOTWMEDDLE 25.11.2005 22:10 |
GreatKingSam wrote: Justin is a very open fella, and is always talking about the things he doesnt like. You say he does it for publicity - but how many famous people dont say things for publicity? Look at Bono and all his charity work for instance. Anyway, chances are, Justin said it in a more loose comical way rather than the way the story built around it, probably by The Sun, suggests. I'd take it with a pinch of salt. But I do agree though, sort of.Good drummer choices but John Otto is a joke. Neil Peart and Phil Collins should be added to the list of great rock drummers! |
NOTWMEDDLE 25.11.2005 22:14 |
boy of destiny wrote: Here in North America (Canada) the only "Queen" we get is the real thing. We've never had that crap by 5ive, Electric Six, etc forced on us to taint the legacy. I love Brian May, but Hawkins is entitled to his opinion and maybe I'd feel the same way if I had to listen to one "flavour of the month" band after another butcher Queen songs with the band's approval.Thank you! The 5ive fiasco, the Robbie fiasco and the Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiascos were IGNORED in America!!! With Paul Rodgers on the other hand is getting a good response. #84 for a live album, especially in this day and age is respectable as most live records don't sell really except for hardcore fans. Roger Waters' In the Flesh Live only reached #164 and many Waters fans whined when Pulse hit #1 as many hardcore fans(moi included) wanted a live Dark Side and the blinking light packaging was superb! |
GreatKingSam 26.11.2005 13:41 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Actually, John Ottot is not a joke, and is one of the better drummers around at the moment. And I'm just not really into Neal Peart and Phil Collin's music. Hence it is a list of drummers I like.GreatKingSam wrote: Justin is a very open fella, and is always talking about the things he doesnt like. You say he does it for publicity - but how many famous people dont say things for publicity? Look at Bono and all his charity work for instance. Anyway, chances are, Justin said it in a more loose comical way rather than the way the story built around it, probably by The Sun, suggests. I'd take it with a pinch of salt. But I do agree though, sort of.Good drummer choices but John Otto is a joke. Neil Peart and Phil Collins should be added to the list of great rock drummers! Anyway, what did that have to do with anything anyway? |
DreaminQueen 26.11.2005 16:29 |
Thank you! The 5ive fiasco, the Robbie fiasco and the Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiascos were IGNORED in America!!! With Paul Rodgers on the other hand is getting a good response What Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiasco??? I live in America so i dont think i know about this so-called fiasco. And as u said, it was ignored here. |
dixie 26.11.2005 17:27 |
pink/beyonce/britney did a cover of wwry for a pepsi advert/commercial. whoch was pretty lame |
DreaminQueen 26.11.2005 20:23 |
Thanks dixie! Yea i heard about that, but it was to horrible to think about so i j/ decided to forget it... Not good... Thank GOD thats over! |
NOTWMEDDLE 27.11.2005 01:20 |
DreaminQueen wrote: Thank you! The 5ive fiasco, the Robbie fiasco and the Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiascos were IGNORED in America!!! With Paul Rodgers on the other hand is getting a good response What Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiasco??? I live in America so i dont think i know about this so-called fiasco. And as u said, it was ignored here.The 5ive collaboration did not hit the charts nor did Robbie Williams collaboration. The Beyonce/Britney/Pink collaboration was for a Pepsi commercial which aired I believe only in the UK. John Deacon did the right thing staying away from those fiascos. Paul Rodgers is well-respected in the rock community here in the United States for his work in Free but mainly Bad Company(whom were a staple of rock radio in the 1970s in the US and signed to Led Zeppelin's Swan Song label), The Firm(his mid-1980s collaboration with Led Zeppelin mastermind Jimmy Page) and his 1993 Muddy Waters Blues tribute album which featured Brian, David Gilmour, Jeff Beck and many others plus his 1991 collaboration with ex-Who drummer Kenney Jones called The Law whom had the US rock radio #1 smash Laying Down the Law. |
Fairy 27.11.2005 08:53 |
Zarathustra II wrote: Yeah, it really is too bad that the legacy is being ruined. I'm also shocked to find that the tour is going to continue well into 2006! At this point, I say that it is time to give it up. If Brian and Roger and Paul Rodgers wanted to do a couple of shows, that would be one thing. But this is getting to be tiresome. I would have thought that the poor sales of Return of the Champions would have been enough to discourage them, but I guess not.Exactly...I hoped it would just be one tour......I think the more it continues, the worse! But of course they're totally free to do what they like. |
deleted user 27.11.2005 09:13 |
I wasn't keen on the 5ive collaboration either... but I'm siding with Brian on this one. I could bang on about how the Queen legacy is not being ruined, but I choose not to. I'm going to comment on the man at the centre of all this. Mr Hawkins has nothing to do with all this, and yet he goes shooting his mouth off about Brian. Good rock stars will keep their mouths shut and get on with the job in hand: entertaining people. I trust Brian will do the decent thing and ignore Hawkins' comments. |
Cwazy little thing 27.11.2005 09:57 |
Some of you people make me sad. This article is about a year and a half old from memory, but more importantly, its pretty certainly a misquote or complete tabloid untruth. Justin Hawkins, and his brother Dan have never hidden from their Queen influences, but more importantly, they were then, and are now on very good terms with Brian May - they were due to appear with QPR at Hyde Park in fact. Justin would not, and did not say this about Brian, although if he disagrees with the collaboration with Five - fair enough - I cant say I was particularly fond of it. RE The Darkness in general- Anyone who says the Darkness sounds like Queen needs to bugger off and listen to Permission to Land again. Aside from a couple of guitar harmonies here and there, and the odd Mayesque riff I would strongly argue that album is far more derivative of Thin Lizzy and AC/DC but with their own style and twist on it. There are Queen like elements, but they arent that obvious. The new album, despite some scandalous untruth by someone earlier has been getting excellent reviews from the likes of Q and Classic Rock, and I have yet to read anything worse than an "average" review, but that was from the musical force that is Front Magazine if memory serves, and the vast majority have been excellent! Finally - the new album will without doubt have some more Queen influences - especially with the introduction of piano etc, but that can only serve to champion a great style of music that has been practically killed off by the boredom and depression of so many modern bands. If there are Queenesque moments on their records then they are very knowing tributes and homages, and should absolutely not be viewed as ripping off. The Darkness are original in that they are creating new music, influenced by classic music, but with their own very distinctive style to it. The thing that is truly disapointing from Queen fans, is the inablilty to understand and appreciate that everything the Darkness do is laced with a squirt of humour, and with tongue somewhat in cheek - its a style of music that, while passionate and meaningful is ultimately designed for people to have fun with - something another band once did to great effect, although for now the name of that band escapes me - I believe it was King or something? Yes, Im a fan of Queen and the Darkness, but I really think some people here should give them a chance - you might discover something to cheer you up - miserable swines! |
DreaminQueen 27.11.2005 17:29 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote:I know of Paul Rodgers, i am a fan of Bad Company and i like Free as well. Thanks for filling in the blanks for the rest of it tho. The US really doesnt follow up on current things going on with classic rock artists really. Which really upsets me because I love it sooo much. This stuff u really gotta do research on, which i wish i had more time to do so. Thanks again...DreaminQueen wrote: Thank you! The 5ive fiasco, the Robbie fiasco and the Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiascos were IGNORED in America!!! With Paul Rodgers on the other hand is getting a good response What Beyonce/Britney/Pink fiasco??? I live in America so i dont think i know about this so-called fiasco. And as u said, it was ignored here.The 5ive collaboration did not hit the charts nor did Robbie Williams collaboration. The Beyonce/Britney/Pink collaboration was for a Pepsi commercial which aired I believe only in the UK. John Deacon did the right thing staying away from those fiascos. Paul Rodgers is well-respected in the rock community here in the United States for his work in Free but mainly Bad Company(whom were a staple of rock radio in the 1970s in the US and signed to Led Zeppelin's Swan Song label), The Firm(his mid-1980s collaboration with Led Zeppelin mastermind Jimmy Page) and his 1993 Muddy Waters Blues tribute album which featured Brian, David Gilmour, Jeff Beck and many others plus his 1991 collaboration with ex-Who drummer Kenney Jones called The Law whom had the US rock radio #1 smash Laying Down the Law. And if this quote is tabloid, they def twisted it around then, whether or not Hawkins said it directly doesnt matter really... its once again the press doing what they want with what someone said... not unusual... not right, but def. pretty normal... And i dont mind the Darkness, hopefully they'll be one of the bands to bring back that classic rock feel and sound that many people are hoping for... But u never know, and things like this will always be taken the wrong way for die-hard fans (generally) some will take it with a great assault, but i dont see Brian getting to upset over it so i dont know that everyone else should either... But i support his decision in going on tour with Paul Rodgers, and he made mistakes w/ the WWRY collab's w/ the teenie bopper princesses for Pepsi... which did air in the US i believe only once or twice, and i never saw the Robbie Williams collabo, but i believe i saw the 5ive one, they were the band that covered Radio Ga-Ga correct? because i remember seeing that... I was disappointed... |
GreatKingSam 28.11.2005 08:51 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: Some of you people make me sad. This article is about a year and a half old from memory, but more importantly, its pretty certainly a misquote or complete tabloid untruth. Justin Hawkins, and his brother Dan have never hidden from their Queen influences, but more importantly, they were then, and are now on very good terms with Brian May - they were due to appear with QPR at Hyde Park in fact. Justin would not, and did not say this about Brian, although if he disagrees with the collaboration with Five - fair enough - I cant say I was particularly fond of it. RE The Darkness in general- Anyone who says the Darkness sounds like Queen needs to bugger off and listen to Permission to Land again. Aside from a couple of guitar harmonies here and there, and the odd Mayesque riff I would strongly argue that album is far more derivative of Thin Lizzy and AC/DC but with their own style and twist on it. There are Queen like elements, but they arent that obvious. The new album, despite some scandalous untruth by someone earlier has been getting excellent reviews from the likes of Q and Classic Rock, and I have yet to read anything worse than an "average" review, but that was from the musical force that is Front Magazine if memory serves, and the vast majority have been excellent! Finally - the new album will without doubt have some more Queen influences - especially with the introduction of piano etc, but that can only serve to champion a great style of music that has been practically killed off by the boredom and depression of so many modern bands. If there are Queenesque moments on their records then they are very knowing tributes and homages, and should absolutely not be viewed as ripping off. The Darkness are original in that they are creating new music, influenced by classic music, but with their own very distinctive style to it. The thing that is truly disapointing from Queen fans, is the inablilty to understand and appreciate that everything the Darkness do is laced with a squirt of humour, and with tongue somewhat in cheek - its a style of music that, while passionate and meaningful is ultimately designed for people to have fun with - something another band once did to great effect, although for now the name of that band escapes me - I believe it was King or something? Yes, Im a fan of Queen and the Darkness, but I really think some people here should give them a chance - you might discover something to cheer you up - miserable swines!Sorry, but I felt the need to quote the whole piece. If we had smileys on here, I'd use the one with clapping hands. That is the best post I've read in a long while. The problem, as The Darkness built a buzz without a single, people had already been told that they were Queen-esque etc etc, and therefore expected it. What The Darkness give is us is exactly what the charts have missed since around 1991 I'd say. New album = class. |
PrincesofTheUniverse 29.11.2005 07:32 |
If this is true, why would the Darkness have a "thank you" to Brian May in the sleeve notes of their brand new album? Sounds like shite to me. Usual press/media trying to invent a story to stir things up. Until I see a video clip, or hear an audio clip of the actual comments from Justin, anything else is just hearsay, and probably media made up bollocks. |