| its_a_hard_life 26994 16.11.2005 09:31 |
Whos gonna watch that? Channel: itv2 Time: 9pm Whoever likes Robbie Williams will enjoy it. BPP? You gonna watch it? Peace x |
| doremi 16.11.2005 12:48 |
I would, but I can't since I live in the USA and don't get British TV. I just read an article that Take That did some reunion to promote a greatest hits CD, and Robbie refused to participate, since he's such a star now and because Gary Barlow treated him like sh*t when Robbie was in Take That. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 16.11.2005 13:01 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I just read an article that Take That did some reunion to promote a greatest hits CD, and Robbie refused to participate, since he's such a star now and because Gary Barlow treated him like sh*t when Robbie was in Take That.Really?! Shame... |
| GreatKingSam 16.11.2005 13:04 |
And why would Robbie Williams, an extremely successful solo musician need to rejoin four people who are pretty talentless and are just after a bit of money becuase they cant do anything else...? |
| TheOpposition. 16.11.2005 13:21 |
" four people who are pretty talentless " - I got the impression that Gary Barlow has some musical/songwriting talent. |
| The Fairy King 16.11.2005 14:33 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Gary Barlow had 1 hitsong, and Robbie?TheOpposition. wrote: " four people who are pretty talentless " - I got the impression that Gary Barlow has some musical/songwriting talent.That'd make him the only one. The only one INCLUDING Robbie. nuff said. |
| GreatKingSam 16.11.2005 14:33 |
Other than Take That and an oh-so fabulous solo career, what has Gary Barlow done compared to Robbie!? |
| pma 16.11.2005 14:38 |
GreatKingSam wrote: Other than Take That and an oh-so fabulous solo career, what has Gary Barlow done compared to Robbie!?Faded away and become forgotten, that's an achievement ;-) |
| The Fairy King 16.11.2005 15:49 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Oh come on he wrote Angels, you're gonna compare him to the Spice Girls now? I know u don't like his music, but dude be honest. Don't bash for the sake of bashing. :P<font color=#C5150>The Fairy King</font> wrote:The Spice Girls had hits. They still don't have musical talent.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Gary Barlow had 1 hitsong, and Robbie? nuff said.TheOpposition. wrote: " four people who are pretty talentless " - I got the impression that Gary Barlow has some musical/songwriting talent.That'd make him the only one. The only one INCLUDING Robbie. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 16.11.2005 15:53 |
its_a_hard_life. wrote: Whos gonna watch that? Channel: itv2 Time: 9pm Whoever likes Robbie Williams will enjoy it. BPP? You gonna watch it? Peace xSure am. PAUL RODGERS MIGHT WANT TO WATCH AND LEARN FROM FREDDIE'S PRODIGAL SON ROBBIE. HE CAN SING AND ENTERTAIN SOMETHING PAUL RODGERS FAILS ON BOTH ACCOUNTS! |
| bitesthedust 16.11.2005 16:23 |
I agree with Caspar to an extent as regards his opinion on Robbie Williams... There's no denying the man has talent and is a very popular and successful artist, but in my opinion he is incredibly overrated....one great song in "Angels", that's all as far as I'm concerned. |
| pma 16.11.2005 16:30 |
Judging by the eternal need of certain induviduals to bash Robbie, a lot of people here indeed have a major chip up their arses and desperately need lives. Badly... |
| Mr.Jingles 16.11.2005 16:35 |
Sorry to all of you Robbie fans but the guy will be nearly completely forgotten in 10 years, just like The Spice Girls. Consider that George Michael doesn't get much exposure nowdays and his career has pretty much faded away. Yet he was far more talented than Robbie. |
| @ndy38 16.11.2005 16:50 |
pma wrote: Judging by the eternal need of certain induviduals to bash Robbie, a lot of people here indeed have a major chip up their arses and desperately need lives. Badly...I don't think it has anything to do with that, he's just not that good and i can see why people bash him, i mean, we have people saying he is 'the best ever', and that really isn't the case.... |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 16.11.2005 17:30 |
Just watched it, a bit dissapointed really. Im gonna show myself up now and admit to having every Take that n Robbie album. Bloody good music. Bloody soft bastards! |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 16.11.2005 18:25 |
pma wrote: Judging by the eternal need of certain induviduals to bash Robbie, a lot of people here indeed have a major chip up their arses and desperately need lives. Badly...These people haven't got chips up their arses more like Paul Rodgers up their ass. These peiple who dispise Freddie and fall in love with a useless old blues singer no one had heard of until 12 months ago makes me sick. |
| teleman 16.11.2005 19:15 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: These people haven't got chips up their arses more like Paul Rodgers up their ass. These peiple who dispise Freddie and fall in love with a useless old blues singer no one had heard of until 12 months ago makes me sick.Bryans Permed Pants you are boring. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 16.11.2005 19:21 |
I watched the whole thing too... Still doesnt change how i feel about that low life shit head ROBBIE PLOP PANTS! He sucks big time hahahahaha.... |
| pma 17.11.2005 00:31 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Sorry to all of you Robbie fans but the guy will be nearly completely forgotten in 10 years, just like The Spice Girls.That sounds so similar to what was said about EVERY OTHER former "Take That" member except Gary Barlow and Robbie only gains more popularity. I'm afraid you'll be wrong. Robbie will be around if he wants to be, I fear he'll be the new Cliff Richard of some sorts... |
| GreatKingSam 17.11.2005 04:32 |
Those of you who seem to bash Robbie, purely becuase you have a trivial hate for him because he like Queen and sung a decent version of We Are The Champions with Bri and Rog, and attempts We Will Rock You at his shows as a bit of a homage to one of his heroes, only come across like watered down versions of Brians Cunting Perm with your "Oh hes rubbish he cant sing, he's not successful etc etc". The guy has talent. The guy can sing. He certainly knows how to entertain and put on a good show, and is probably one of, if not the, best out there at the moment at doing that. I'm not a crazy Robbie fan, but I do like him alot - but Angels his only good song? Have a laugh... |
| FLASH_GORDON 17.11.2005 06:28 |
I F***ING HATE ROBBIE AND TAKE THAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! |
| bitesthedust 17.11.2005 06:38 |
GreatKingSam wrote: Those of you who seem to bash Robbie, purely becuase you have a trivial hate for him because he like Queen and sung a decent version of We Are The Champions with Bri and Rog, and attempts We Will Rock You at his shows as a bit of a homage to one of his heroes, only come across like watered down versions of Brians Cunting Perm with your "Oh hes rubbish he cant sing, he's not successful etc etc". The guy has talent. The guy can sing. He certainly knows how to entertain and put on a good show, and is probably one of, if not the, best out there at the moment at doing that. I'm not a crazy Robbie fan, but I do like him alot - but Angels his only good song? Have a laugh...If you care to re-read my post, you will find I state the man has talent and is very successful. At the end of the day, each to their own. |
| GreatKingSam 17.11.2005 07:20 |
I you care to re-read my post, I only included what you said about Angels, and I wasn't really picking on you personally anyway. It was something of a simple inclusion, and it just so happened that you were the person who made that point. |
| bitesthedust 17.11.2005 08:07 |
yeah I see it now...sorry. |
| GreatKingSam 17.11.2005 10:38 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: I've seen a live show, and HE WAS OUT OF TUNE THE ENTIRE FUCKING LENGTH OF THE SHOW!!!! Good entertainers? George Thorogood & The Destroyers, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band Need any more?You have a petty hate for Robbie Williams, and clearly like Thorogood, Petty and Springsteen, which makes the above comments unfair 'arguments'. Par example, I think Bono is an attention grabbing prick who doesn't give a shit about charity and is just a poor-mans Geldof, always making everyone else do charity and stealing the lime-light while doing fuck-all himself, but I can still turn around and say that, despite not liking the vast majoirty of U2's music, arguably, they are one of the better bands on the planet, possibly ever. Yet, you hate Robbie Williams, and thus conclude that, whatever happens, he is shite. Which is pointless, and like I say, sounds almost as ridiculous as when BPP goes on and on about how rubbish and unproven Paul Rodgers is, was, and will be forever, when we all know, despite maybe not liking him completely etc, that is bollocks. |
| doremi 17.11.2005 10:56 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote:LMAO!pma wrote: Judging by the eternal need of certain induviduals to bash Robbie, a lot of people here indeed have a major chip up their arses and desperately need lives. Badly...These people haven't got chips up their arses more like Paul Rodgers up their ass. These peiple who dispise Freddie and fall in love with a useless old blues singer no one had heard of until 12 months ago makes me sick. |
| GreatKingSam 17.11.2005 11:41 |
I did not ignore what you said. I could just as easily say you have ignored what I have said, however. Other than the above being your opinion, my view is I feel that you will hate Mr Williams whatever and it would seem that whatever he does, you have made your mind up that you are going to hate it for one reason or another. And anyway, as in accordance with yourself, he has apparently sung ONE show out of tune. So? Football players have a WHOLE bad game all the time, doens't mean they are forever shit. Robbie was fine at the MTV awards, (perhaps other than WWRY) was one of the best at Live Aid, Knebworth was quality etc etc. But does that not count? My point was, if you read what I said, that you hate Robbie and say he is shit, and then you say you like Thorogood, Springsteen etc, and they are good... how can that be a justified argument? Like I said, I hate Bono/U2, but I can still turn around and say that, yeh, they are good, but I can't stand them. You seem to have a hate for Robbie Williams, but go around spouting on about how he can't sing, has no talent etc, which, lets face it, is utter crap, regardless of whether he is or isn't your taste. Pathetic was the word you used I think? |
| Fenderek 17.11.2005 11:59 |
Yeah whatever- he's talented or not- couldn't care less, I can't stand the guy. This is not music for me- this is product. He's NOT entretaining me- if I hear him I want to slap him. IMO he's making a tit of himself on stage. He points the mic to the audience and that's called showmanship. Fair enough. I prefer the guy who stands with mic stand entire gig and when sings- his voice touches my soul. Robbie only makes me cry. And it's not because I'm touched... I can admit that his technique can be good at times ("...Swinging" thing wasn't THAT bad actually), but the tone of his voice AND phrasing are really poor. In My Opinion of course. Oh- and I don't rate "Angels" as good song. Annoys the hell out of me. If I was to chose one I'd probably go for "Let Me Entertain You"- got a little bit of this "SOMETHING" in it. I've heard hundreds of songs like "Angels", tens of them more beautiful and much better... The only difference is... Anyone heard about "Anna Lee"? I thought so... I really don't acre about charts. I found my niche, there are many bands in the underground that are more interesting and finding them is more satisfying. Robbie is for me a n example of what's wrong with the music industry. But that's just my opinion. Oh- he's arrogance is also a factor. And just before someone will say that Fred was also arrogant. Yes, but at the same time he was charming and funny, tongue-in-cheek with that. Robbie isn't. |
| TheOpposition. 19.11.2005 05:08 |
I was under the impression that without 'Angels', Robbie's solo career would not have taken off in the way that it did. And contrary to what someone here said, I don't think Robbie actually wrote 'Angles'. I thought it was Robbie's songwriter, Guy Chambers, who penned that hit. Who knows, maybe if Gary Barlow had been lucky in the songs he had had written for him years ago, and Robbie less lucky, things could be the opposite of what they are now. |
| pma 19.11.2005 05:31 |
TheOpposition. wrote: I was under the impression that without 'Angels', Robbie's solo career would not have taken off in the way that it did. And contrary to what someone here said, I don't think Robbie actually wrote 'Angles'. I thought it was Robbie's songwriter, Guy Chambers, who penned that hit. Who knows, maybe if Gary Barlow had been lucky in the songs he had had written for him years ago, and Robbie less lucky, things could be the opposite of what they are now.Erhm, Robbie does write his lyrics. Or maybe he just bullshits everyone by discussing how the lyrics came about in interviews and also is CREDITED for no-good reason. Facts are never the strong points of anti-Robbie people. I guess it's due to being blinded by hatred... :-P Oh let's just assume that Robbie doesn't write anything, so his new album without Chambers just HAPPENS to sound like Robbie-lyrically because Duffy is a great impersonator of other peoples lyrical styles... Give me a break. |
| CC1 19.11.2005 05:58 |
I hated them then,I still hate them now. But in all fairness to Robbie, would they have got so far without him...Probably not. My thoughts on the individual members.... Jason Orange - Could he have been any camper. Howard Donald - Hats off to him far being so honest. Mark Owen - He doesnt get any older. Gary Barlow - Why ??? He seemed absolutely clueless as to what was going on. Robbie Williams - How big is that mans ego ?? 'YOU AINT FREDDIE....GET OVER YOURSELF'. & Stop ruining classic anthems. |
| Banquo 19.11.2005 06:38 |
Didn't Gary Barlow write Will Young's Leave Right Now? A brilliant song. |
| TheOpposition. 19.11.2005 07:45 |
What an arrogant, aggressive little prick you are pma. Do me a favour and don't answer any of my posts again. |
| pma 19.11.2005 09:34 |
TheOpposition. wrote: What an arrogant, aggressive little prick you are pma. Do me a favour and don't answer any of my posts again.Thank you, you're quite mature and charming yourself. Oops, I replied. Tip, don't read... |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.11.2005 09:52 |
The Original Mrs Taylor wrote: I hated them then,I still hate them now. But in all fairness to Robbie, would they have got so far without him...Probably not. My thoughts on the individual members.... Jason Orange - Could he have been any camper. Howard Donald - Hats off to him far being so honest. Mark Owen - He doesnt get any older. Gary Barlow - Why ??? He seemed absolutely clueless as to what was going on. Robbie Williams - How big is that mans ego ?? 'YOU AINT FREDDIE....GET OVER YOURSELF'. & Stop ruining classic anthems.Yeah i totally agree on what your saying here. Robbie thinks hes the next Freddie Mercury giving it all that ego, its all rubbish i tell ya! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.11.2005 09:52 |
The Original Mrs Taylor wrote: I hated them then,I still hate them now. But in all fairness to Robbie, would they have got so far without him...Probably not. My thoughts on the individual members.... Jason Orange - Could he have been any camper. Howard Donald - Hats off to him far being so honest. Mark Owen - He doesnt get any older. Gary Barlow - Why ??? He seemed absolutely clueless as to what was going on. Robbie Williams - How big is that mans ego ?? 'YOU AINT FREDDIE....GET OVER YOURSELF'. & Stop ruining classic anthems.Yeah i totally agree on what your saying here. Robbie thinks hes the next Freddie Mercury giving it all that ego, its all rubbish i tell ya! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.11.2005 10:26 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: For the sake of music, I dearly hope Robbie will be forgotten in 10 years' time.I hope so too ALOT. |
| Tyfoon 19.11.2005 11:46 |
well..... , I really think robbies a good Artist, dont ask me why because I dont know but I think he has a amazing voice! If you get the chance buy his 'Swing While Your Winning' (i think its called that) and he does some Frank Sanartrea songs and its great! |
| CC1 19.11.2005 14:15 |
Im not anti-Robbie & I agree that some of his stuff has been alright.But bless him & all his arrogance he should be taken down a peg or two. Gary Barlow obviously knew what was going to be said and took it on the chin. Gary is a good songwriter and should be achknowledged for the fact, I just dont think he wants to hear it from the general public though. Robbie if this message ever gets through to you (I doubt it will). Just kiss & make up with the guy. Hes not anti you, and you admitted it yourself your jealous of his life which he is willing to share if you let him in. |
| doremi 19.11.2005 14:45 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: The man is called "Frank Sinatra", for Christ's sake!LMAO! ''Frank Sanartrea'' Yeah, nice spelling of Old Blues Eyes! Actually I heard that when Robbie was in Take That, he very much wanted to express his creativity and contribute writing songs, and Gary Barlow flat out would not allow it and was even more arrogant (of that's possible0 and a horse's ass to Robbie. he also ridiculed Robbie and put him down. So, now that Robbie is on his own and successful, he wants no part of that BS. Oh, and I LOVE Robbie's duet with Nicole Kidman on ''Something Stupid'' covering Frank and nancy Sinatra on ''Swing While You're Winning''. Cool sexy, video too! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.11.2005 14:53 |
Why the hell did the boys from Take That have a wanking comp? Were they that bored? Robbie won by the way HAHAHA.... I still dislike the bastard and no one can change that, its just something about him that doesnt mesh well with my liking. Hes so stuck up and thinks hes the next Freddie Mercury hes not even heard of in USA. I hope i never hear your name again for years to come Robbie. Its for the best. |
| Fenderek 21.11.2005 07:28 |
Tyfoon wrote: well..... , I really think robbies a good Artist, dont ask me why because I dont know but I think he has a amazing voice! If you get the chance buy his 'Swing While Your Winning' (i think its called that) and he does some Frank Sanartrea songs and its great!If you wann hear really great swing buy Paul Anka's "Rock Swings" where he did swing versions of... Smells Like Teen Spirit" or Van Halen's "Jump" or Soundgardens "Black Hole Sun". If I ever thought Robbie's "Swinging" was good- I cahnged my mind. It's avarage. Listen to the last Anka- you'll be amazed... |
| Mr.Jingles 21.11.2005 08:03 |
I don't know what's worse, Robbie Williams trying to be Frank Sinatra, James Bond, or Freddie Mercury, or Robbie Williams being himself. |
| doremi 22.11.2005 11:41 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I don't know what's worse, Robbie Williams trying to be Frank Sinatra, James Bond, or Freddie Mercury, or Robbie Williams being himself.LOL! Like I have said, I prefer when Robbie STOPS trying to copy Freddie or anyone else, and just is his own man and does original music and his own original personna. |
| doremi 25.11.2005 11:23 |
Take That are touring for the 1st time in years. Read this! Reunion tour (without Robbie). link |