| The Visible Man 14.11.2005 10:57 |
Here are two versions of this unreleased Queen track. Version 1 is the longer 3min version with good sound quality and Version 2 ist the 2 and a half minute version with an excelent sound quality. Version1 link Version2 link |
| Haystacks Calhoun 14.11.2005 11:37 |
Thank you!!!! |
| Fenderek 14.11.2005 11:47 |
Thanks! I had only one of'em so far! |
| Nummer2 14.11.2005 12:20 |
Thank you for the files! I like the song very much. A pity it never was released on an album. What was the exact recording date? Is it a queen song or does it date from earlier (e.g. Wreckage)? Who wrote it? Bye, Nummer2 |
| The Visible Man 14.11.2005 12:30 |
The song is written by Tim Staffell and was recorded in 1971 during the sessions for the first queen album. |
| Nummer2 14.11.2005 13:44 |
Thank you for the info so far! Of course it's a Queen song – what I meant is what roots it has. But since Tim Staffell wrote the lyrics, I assume it comes from Smile (or at least that period), am I right? |
| such_a_jollification 14.11.2005 14:46 |
Thanks v. much! :o) |
| angelrulax 14.11.2005 18:04 |
Thank you |
| Fairlight 14.11.2005 18:36 |
Great recording. Sound on 2 is almost excellent. Thanks a lot Great drums also, the end of the song could´ve been the start of a classic. Anybody got more info about this recording session? |
| Suigi 14.11.2005 19:47 |
Thanks! |
| jcrawford79 14.11.2005 22:01 |
Thanks for this. Prior to this I only had the first version. |
| Dreamweaver 15.11.2005 03:05 |
The Visible Man, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I love this stuff; it's really great. Thanks for sharing it with us! Cheers M8 & stay crazy! ;-) |
| Mike Label 15.11.2005 07:18 |
Great to have this in good quality so thank you very much indeed :)) |
| **Queen_of_Ramms+ein** 15.11.2005 12:21 |
THANK MY FRIENDDDD!!!!! =D |
| Madman 16.11.2005 04:25 |
The Visible Man wrote: The song is written by Tim Staffell and was recorded in 1971 during the sessions for the first queen album.Sorry but it's another myth. For that I read on John S Stuart posts on this forum it was recorded in 1972 during Trident sessions. (more on my site) |
| Mr Drowse 16.11.2005 05:34 |
Thanks a lot :) |
| IgorMKD 02.07.2016 12:08 |
link down |
| . 02.07.2016 12:43 |
^ Probably because it's over ten years old! Here is a new link for 4 versions, including the ones in post #1 I think. https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/951eb3158b6f24711bc6ef9fd6e6da3d20160702185519/cedd90 |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 12:34 |
thanks Kurgan! boy, 2005... when we thought this was from 1971 or 1972 when in facrt it's from the NOTW sessions, 1977 |
| Pim Derks 03.07.2016 12:57 |
I remember paying 35 euros (or maybe it was even longer ago and it was guilders) for a CD-R with Silver Salmon to Sikke. Surprised that this still hasn't been released, as it is definitely one of the better unreleased tracks in my opinion. |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 13:57 |
Here is the best version, number 4 with speed corrected |
| BETA215 03.07.2016 14:05 |
^ Those four versions of Silver Salmon come from the internet bootleg 'The Vaults'. I think that all of them are fakes, excepting the last one. And, that last one, must come from a lossless source. Which I hope somebody shares at some point in the time. PS: Can you hear the Seven Seas Of Rhye intro at the end of the version posted by Ale? Maybe the song it's actually from 72'-74'. |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 14:14 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ Those four versions of Silver Salmon come from the internet bootleg 'The Vaults'. I think that all of them are fakes, excepting the last one. And, that last one, must come from a lossless source. Which I hope somebody shares at some point in the time. PS: Can you hear the Seven Seas Of Rhye intro at the end of the version posted by Ale? Maybe the song it's actually from 72'-74'.No, no, nope Gab, 1, 2 and 3 are real, the first one is part of the improv for the final Silver Salmon version you can hear Seven Seas of Rhye at the end, that means nothing since is not part of the session, just a crossfade onto SSOR from a made up rarities or demos CD-R, just that... but most important, the overall sound of Silver Salmon, the drums, the guitar, that's not from 1971-1972 at all. |
| Barry Durex 03.07.2016 14:38 |
Ale Solan wrote: Here is the best version, number 4 with speed correctedIf you speed correct an mp3 doesn't it lose quality unless saved as a "lossy" flac? |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 15:01 |
Barry Durex wrote:No, mp3 already lost its quality, saving to FLAC is useless.Ale Solan wrote: Here is the best version, number 4 with speed correctedIf you speed correct an mp3 doesn't it lose quality unless saved as a "lossy" flac? |
| BETA215 03.07.2016 15:04 |
Ale Solan wrote: No, no, nope Gab, 1, 2 and 3 are real, the first one is part of the improv for the final Silver Salmon version you can hear Seven Seas of Rhye at the end, that means nothing since is not part of the session, just a crossfade onto SSOR from a made up rarities or demos CD-R, just that... but most important, the overall sound of Silver Salmon, the drums, the guitar, that's not from 1971-1972 at all. The first version I had it labeled as Feelings (which's just an improv before SS, yeah). The second version it's supposed to be recorded from a convention as the first version, but with a so weird reverberation and resonance that makes me think (and cringe, LOL) about the authenticity of the state of this audio tracks. The third version it's just an incomplete and saturated version of the song. The fourth and last version contains the song in it's integrity and its the commonly known best version. Cleaning that aspect, the song was (surely) recorded in rehearsal times for the NOTW tour - maybe that's why SSOR sounds at the end, given that the compilation setlist is this one: "CD1 (1971-1974): 1. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #1 - as said on the tape) 2. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #2 - as said on the tape) 3. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #3 - unknown source) 4. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #4 - remastered) 5. Polar Bear (Queen studio demo version - unknown source) 6. Keep Yourself Alive (acetate - Short Re-take - vinyl source) [...]" |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 15:10 |
BETA215 wrote:Yeah, the first one could be 'also' labeled as Feelings but still part of Silver Salmon's jamAle Solan wrote:The first version I had it labeled as Feelings (which's just an improv before SS, yeah). The second version it's supposed to be recorded from a convention as the first version, but with a so weird reverberation and resonance that makes me think (and cringe, LOL) about the authenticity of the state of this audio tracks. The third version it's just an incomplete and saturated version of the song. The fourth and last version contains the song in it's integrity and its the commonly known best version. Cleaning that aspect, the song was (surely) recorded in rehearsal times for the NOTW tour - maybe that's why SSOR sounds at the end, given that the compilation setlist is this one: "CD1 (1971-1974): 1. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #1 - as said on the tape) 2. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #2 - as said on the tape) 3. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #3 - unknown source) 4. Silver Salmon (unreleased demo - version #4 - remastered) 5. Polar Bear (Queen studio demo version - unknown source) 6. Keep Yourself Alive (acetate - Short Re-take - vinyl source) [...]"No, no, nope Gab, 1, 2 and 3 are real, the first one is part of the improv for the final Silver Salmon version you can hear Seven Seas of Rhye at the end, that means nothing since is not part of the session, just a crossfade onto SSOR from a made up rarities or demos CD-R, just that... but most important, the overall sound of Silver Salmon, the drums, the guitar, that's not from 1971-1972 at all. |
| Oscar J 03.07.2016 15:44 |
Barry Durex is right - editing an mp3 and resampling it as a new mp3 will further degrade its quality. "mp3 already lost its quality" is a weird statement. As if an audio file either has "quality", or hasn't, heh. |
| Barry Durex 03.07.2016 16:17 |
Yes, I thought so. Thanks for confirming. |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 16:56 |
"lossy" FLAC version |
| Barry Durex 03.07.2016 17:17 |
How did you edit the original mp3? |
| Ale Solan 03.07.2016 18:55 |
Barry Durex wrote: How did you edit the original mp3?This thread. |