| Munchsack 08.11.2005 08:44 |
Hey everybody. Picked up "Freddie Mercury" by Peter Freestone in HMV the other day for £2.99! Couldn't believe it!!!!!!! |
| Benn 08.11.2005 09:34 |
It's the largest pile of shit I have ever had the misfortune of reading. The bulk of it is written extremely poorly - how this ever got past the editing stage is completely beyond me...... |
| its_a_hard_life 08.11.2005 10:37 |
*2.99* :O WOW Thats cheap!! Good for you! |
| its_a_hard_life 08.11.2005 10:38 |
Benn wrote: It's the largest pile of shit I have ever had the misfortune of reading. The bulk of it is written extremely poorly - how this ever got past the editing stage is completely beyond me......I want to see you try writing a book of Freddie Mercury... Peter was one of the closet you can get to Freddie dont diss his book. |
| Benn 08.11.2005 12:14 |
Have you read it? Have you read the completely inconprehensible style it's been written in? The book has no structure and is completely random in how it covers the topics involved. There is no apparent objectivity either - more an excuse for Phoebe to elaborate upon already well-known stories and anecdotes about Freddie's life. The illustrations are also well below the standard you would like to "expect" from a book by someone so close to his subject. I could go on "dissing" the book quite *easily*. There is yet to be a decent book written about the band or it's individual members and certainly, someone from within the camp isn;'t goingt o be nearly objective enough or, for that matter, allowed to tell it as it really was because of censure by QPL. |
| A_night_@_the_opera 08.11.2005 12:30 |
I have read the book and its great. |
| deleted user 08.11.2005 15:07 |
Might get it, seems good to me. |
| Penetration_Guru 08.11.2005 15:12 |
Brilliant. Having spent time with a singer in a band is apparently ideal qualification for being a published writer! Ah, the logic of the twat.... |
| Just You and Me 08.11.2005 15:47 |
i'm reading it now and though i find it interesting i do have to admit there are sentences when i just have to lower my head and think "what the heck was he thinking when he wrote that." |
| tia 08.11.2005 15:54 |
Benn wrote: Have you read it? Have you read the completely inconprehensible style it's been written in? The book has no structure and is completely random in how it covers the topics involved. There is no apparent objectivity either - more an excuse for Phoebe to elaborate upon already well-known stories and anecdotes about Freddie's life. The illustrations are also well below the standard you would like to "expect" from a book by someone so close to his subject. I could go on "dissing" the book quite *easily*. There is yet to be a decent book written about the band or it's individual members and certainly, someone from within the camp isn;'t goingt o be nearly objective enough or, for that matter, allowed to tell it as it really was because of censure by QPL.I agree with that there was no structure. It jumped around alot but it had alot of good information in it.The pictures irratated me because they were all pictures of freddie's former boyfriends and they all looked like him. |
| teddybear 08.11.2005 16:38 |
Yeah, I did not like it either. IN fact I am very suspicious of any book that "kiss and tells" so much, especially when the person is not alive to defend it !! Anyway, guess you can read it for what it likely is - half fact and half fiction - like most unauthorised biographies are. |
| rachael mae. 08.11.2005 16:50 |
I picked it up for £2.99 too.. it's so difficult to understand, he sort of flicks back and forth between things.. |
| beautifulsoup 08.11.2005 17:24 |
Well - I leafed through it to get as much Freddie/Montserrat info as I could. Now I'm looking forward to reading it cover to cover. |
| Aura Marina 09.11.2005 00:20 |
I never read it, because in my country don't found it and my english is very poor too. Anyway, if I have the oportunity, I prefer read to Phoebe because I think he Knew better to Freddie and he's most Loyal to him. Don't care the form or way that he Write. PS: Sorry for my bad english |
| blerp 09.11.2005 00:27 |
Mercury and Me sounds so far the best, so I might invest on buying that one. How many books published about Freddie are there? |
| Tazmanuk 09.11.2005 01:00 |
I must admit I've got and read (several times now) Mercury and Me, It's very well written and you can tll that it was written with the collaboration of somebody who really did care for and love Freddie a lot. Highly recommend it. Taz |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 09.11.2005 06:17 |
LadyMercury wrote: Mercury and Me sounds so far the best, so I might invest on buying that one. How many books published about Freddie are there?Loads, lol. |
| Munchsack 09.11.2005 08:20 |
Perhaps it has no structure, I don't know, I haven't read much of it yet, but it's not bad for £2.99. |
| ok.computer 09.11.2005 08:29 |
Benn wrote: There is yet to be a decent book written about the band or it's individual members and certainly, someone from within the camp isn;'t goingt o be nearly objective enough or, for that matter, allowed to tell it as it really was because of censure by QPL.I think until the three remaining members sit down and put their thoughts on paper, we're unlikely to get anything that makes for "a good read". I've only read "As it Began" - the rest just looked tawdry and paperback-ish. It's very rarely that anybody in the music world has the literary talent to write a decent autobiography. I think the three of them (yes, I DO think that for this project, that would be very possible), should team up with a good ghost-writer and editor and do a project worthy of the subject. I think a three-volume project would be good. Beginnings to 1980, 1981 to 90, 1991 to present day with an extensive section on solo work. Any more than three volumes, I think they'd get bored. Anyway, as usual that's my tuppence worth. Y'all are welcome to disagree, but as usual, while I support and welcome your right to do so, I won't give a fuck. :-D Cheers y'all Paul |
| Whatinthewhatthe? 09.11.2005 08:37 |
Phoebe's book in the bargain bin? I thought it had been out of print for years! |
| Benn 09.11.2005 10:45 |
So, the general concensus then is that the book's rubbish.......? :-) >It's very rarely that anybody in the music >world has the literary talent to write a decent >autobiography. Just wait until Pete Townshend releases his - THAT will be the benchmark for ANY autobiography. Should be available next year depending on whether he takes the time to finish it above his commitments to the band. >I think the three of them (yes, I DO think that >for this project, that would be very possible), >should team up with a good ghost-writer and >editor and do a project worthy of the subject. Won't ever happen - there are too many "other people" involved for there to ever be a Queen "autobiography". Ie Jim Beach, Freddie's estate etc........ Best we can hope for is people to actually ask Brian "relevant" *pertinent* questions via his website, but, again, as we all know, he never answers anything that may be controversial or that may possibly reflect badly on him....... |
| ok.computer 09.11.2005 22:25 |
Benn wrote: So, the general concensus then is that the book's rubbish.......? :-) >It's very rarely that anybody in the music >world has the literary talent to write a decent >autobiography. Just wait until Pete Townshend releases his - THAT will be the benchmark for ANY autobiography. Should be available next year depending on whether he takes the time to finish it above his commitments to the band. >I think the three of them (yes, I DO think that >for this project, that would be very possible), >should team up with a good ghost-writer and >editor and do a project worthy of the subject. Won't ever happen - there are too many "other people" involved for there to ever be a Queen "autobiography". Ie Jim Beach, Freddie's estate etc........ Best we can hope for is people to actually ask Brian "relevant" *pertinent* questions via his website, but, again, as we all know, he never answers anything that may be controversial or that may possibly reflect badly on him.......See, that's why i wrote "I think" at the start...it's only my opinion. But I disagree. I think there will be a time when the three of them - perhaps in about five/ten years - will put pen to paper. I think the catalyst may well be if another one of them dies. Sorry to sound so morbid, but I think a time of reflection - and not any pecuniary interest - will be the laxative that moves their literary bowel. As for Townshend's bio...well....I'll believe it when I see it. When I started getting into the bass, and was into a lot of Entwistle's stuff, John was supposed to be pulling a lot of material together for a 'istory of the 'oo. That was nearly 15 years ago. |
| Benn 10.11.2005 07:15 |
>As for Townshend's bio...well....I'll believe >it when I see it. Well, he's committed to it emotionally now; since the events of 2002, he's used it as something of a self-healing process and I believe he will complete that process now that Rachel has provided the final piece of stability he has been looking for. >When I started getting into the bass, and was >into a lot of Entwistle's stuff, John was >supposed to be pulling a lot of material >together for a 'istory of the 'oo. I saw the manuscript in 2000 - it was absolutely ENORMOUS. And it still wasn't finished. The beauty of it was that there wasn't a great emphasis on Keith - well, there was, but not in the way that most people would "like" to have thought. It was / is a true and honest account - John's memories and thoughts from his time in the band. I'm hoping that we can get hiw work published "as is", but again, lawyers and "other people" will have their say first...... |
| ok.computer 10.11.2005 16:55 |
Benn wrote: > I saw the manuscript in 2000 - it was absolutely ENORMOUS. And it still wasn't finished. The beauty of it was that there wasn't a great emphasis on Keith - well, there was, but not in the way that most people would "like" to have thought. It was / is a true and honest account - John's memories and thoughts from his time in the band. I'm hoping that we can get hiw work published "as is", but again, lawyers and "other people" will have their say first......Who's "we"? |
| 7Innuendo7 11.11.2005 07:28 |
I liked Phoebe's book, the stories about birthdays, decorating houses, customizing kitchens and gardens, and he did give a little character insight: Freddie's need for conflict to spark his creativity, unwillingness to get involved if he didn't feel confident about the outcome etc. If the book was a movie, it would probably be like Pulp Fiction -- out of time sequence, loads of drugs, fancy dancing with a female confidant, and spectacular bondage action ;) |