QueenZone discussion #654779

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: Lol! I watched an episode of American Dad last night that had, GOD! phone George Bush and tell George to STOP associating himself with God..as it was ruining God's reputation. Hilarious.

Music Man wrote: Fuck this shit to hell. And fuck you if you can get ten out of ten, because I sure as hell can't. This is almost as frustrating as those God damn crane games.

Barry © wrote: I managed to drop 3 brains in his head. ;-)

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: Lol! I watched an episode of American Dad last night that had, GOD! phone George Bush and tell George to STOP associating himself with God..as it was ruining God's reputation. Hilarious.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I just read that Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong, in concert, panning and mocking Bush, introduces himself saying ''I'm George W. Bush, but my friends call me asshole!''. Love it!

Music Man wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I just read that Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong, in concert, panning and mocking Bush, introduces himself saying ''I'm George W. Bush, but my friends call me asshole!''. Love it!

It only makes me sad that Billie Joe Armstrong really has no idea what he's talking about and only does so to get a reaction from the audience...*sigh*

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Music Man wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I just read that Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong, in concert, panning and mocking Bush, introduces himself saying ''I'm George W. Bush, but my friends call me asshole!''. Love it!

It only makes me sad that Billie Joe Armstrong really has no idea what he's talking about and only does so to get a reaction from the audience...*sigh*

It's called a rock concert. It's full of kids screaming, mosh pits, body surfing, and in ocassions some fella using drugs. Things are not supossed to be taken particularly seriously.

Mr.Jingles wrote: I know what you mean. I think it was wrong from Billie Joe to call Bush an asshole, because the guy is actually a retard. It's not nice to make fun of mentally challenged people by calling them assholes. Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Ashcroft, now those are ASSHOLES.

Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree that Green Day might not know much about politics, but neither do politicians. After all, wasn't our president a C average college student who spent many of his years drinking booze and snorting coke with his buddies. I'm sure that Dubya did as much (or probably even more) dope as Billie Joe, Mike, or Tre.

Music Man wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree that Green Day might not know much about politics, but neither do politicians. After all, wasn't our president a C average college student who spent many of his years drinking booze and snorting coke with his buddies. I'm sure that Dubya did as much (or probably even more) dope as Billie Joe, Mike, or Tre.

Okay, I can't argue with that too much.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Music Man wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree that Green Day might not know much about politics, but neither do politicians. After all, wasn't our president a C average college student who spent many of his years drinking booze and snorting coke with his buddies. I'm sure that Dubya did as much (or probably even more) dope as Billie Joe, Mike, or Tre.

Okay, I can't argue with that too much.

Excuse me, but John Lennon, Bob Geldof and Bono did NOT attend college and are more informed, aware and active in politics, social causes than most politicians. Billie Joe is VERY informed about this administration. So is Dave Grohl for that matter who supported Kerry in the run for President, and did the double Foo Fighter Album ''In Your Honor'' also about the current Bush administration and trying to inform today's youth about their right to vote and the idiocy of Bush and the Iraqi war. That's close minded and pigeon headed to assume that just because one doens'y have a college degree, that they are not informed and active in politics and social issues/causes...or for that matter, that just because someone did attend college (such as Bush) that they know what they are doing...which he does NOT).

Music Man wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Music Man wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree that Green Day might not know much about politics, but neither do politicians. After all, wasn't our president a C average college student who spent many of his years drinking booze and snorting coke with his buddies. I'm sure that Dubya did as much (or probably even more) dope as Billie Joe, Mike, or Tre.

Okay, I can't argue with that too much.

Excuse me, but John Lennon, Bob Geldof and Bono did NOT attend college and are more informed, aware and active in politics, social causes than most politicians. Billie Joe is VERY informed about this administration. So is Dave Grohl for that matter who supported Kerry in the run for President, and did the double Foo Fighter Album ''In Your Honor'' also about the current Bush administration and trying to inform today's youth about their right to vote and the idiocy of Bush and the Iraqi war. That's close minded and pigeon headed to assume that just because one doens'y have a college degree, that they are not informed and active in politics and social issues/causes...or for that matter, that just because someone did attend college (such as Bush) that they know what they are doing...which he does NOT).

Well, my main point was not the fact that they lacked educations. That was only a supporting point that no doubt promotes my claim. I still have no reason to believe that Billie Joe Armstrong is so well-informed to make a clear, accurate analytical opinion on politics, so all I would like is some closure on that. Heck, I'm not even so sure that Lennon, Geldof, or even Bono are qualified to make such opinions. Perhaps they all are, perhaps none are. As for being active in politics and social causes, I can in no way contest that. It's pervadingly clear that each of these people was active. But as you are quick to point out with Bush, some people are just not qualified to give such opinions on politics to be consumed by the mass public merely because they are celebrities. Honestly, I think celebrities should just stay out of politics altogether, no matter how qualified they are. Their words are far too powerful to the ignorance of the population. They have nothing to gain by making an accurate statement, but rather a popular one, as opposed to politicians, whose position is elastic to the accuracy of their statements. Also, on a related note, there is a MAJOR difference between being "informed, aware, and active" and actually knowing how to deal with these things they are "informed, aware, and active" in.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Music Man wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Music Man wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree that Green Day might not know much about politics, but neither do politicians. After all, wasn't our president a C average college student who spent many of his years drinking booze and snorting coke with his buddies. I'm sure that Dubya did as much (or probably even more) dope as Billie Joe, Mike, or Tre.

Okay, I can't argue with that too much.

Excuse me, but John Lennon, Bob Geldof and Bono did NOT attend college and are more informed, aware and active in politics, social causes than most politicians. Billie Joe is VERY informed about this administration. So is Dave Grohl for that matter who supported Kerry in the run for President, and did the double Foo Fighter Album ''In Your Honor'' also about the current Bush administration and trying to inform today's youth about their right to vote and the idiocy of Bush and the Iraqi war. That's close minded and pigeon headed to assume that just because one doens'y have a college degree, that they are not informed and active in politics and social issues/causes...or for that matter, that just because someone did attend college (such as Bush) that they know what they are doing...which he does NOT).

Well, my main point was not the fact that they lacked educations. That was only a supporting point that no doubt promotes my claim. I still have no reason to believe that Billie Joe Armstrong is so well-informed to make a clear, accurate analytical opinion on politics, so all I would like is some closure on that. Heck, I'm not even so sure that Lennon, Geldof, or even Bono are qualified to make such opinions. Perhaps they all are, perhaps none are. As for being active in politics and social causes, I can in no way contest that. It's pervadingly clear that each of these people was active. But as you are quick to point out with Bush, some people are just not qualified to give such opinions on politics to be consumed by the mass public merely because they are celebrities. Honestly, I think celebrities should just stay out of politics altogether, no matter how qualified they are. Their words are far too powerful to the ignorance of the population. They have nothing to gain by making an accurate statement, but rather a popular one, as opposed to politicians, whose position is elastic to the accuracy of their statements. Also, on a related note, there is a MAJOR difference between being "informed, aware, and active" and actually knowing how to deal with these things they are "informed, aware, and active" in.

Sometimes, in the case of Geldof and Bono, they DO know how to deal with these issues which is why the 2005 G8 Summit leaders doubles aid to Africa to $50 Billion by the year 2010 and cancelled $40 Billion in debt ro some 18 nations.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: In the case of protest singers like Billie Joe or say, Coldplay, their raising the public's awareness, and making the public NOT be apathetic to major political and worls/social ills and issues IS important, because it makes the public AWARE and causes the general public to get involved themselves, or VOTE.

Mr.Jingles wrote: I think Arlene and Music Man need to exchange phone numbers.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: I think Arlene and Music Man need to exchange phone numbers.

''People will say we're in love''....''Hello Clarice!'' (as quoted by Hannibal Lechter!) LOL!

Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I still stand on my viewpoint that I think it IS good for celebrities to get involved with politics, social issues...if only to make the public aware at the least, and for these celebrities to take actual ACTION at the most. That's what rock has always been about. And music in general too, like folk and blues. Think of musicians who wrote and sang about the signs of the times like Woody Guthrie, Pete Seegar, Peter Paul and Mary. And...I still think that Billie Joe and Green Day are trying their best to take this seriously and stay informed and raise awareness. The skit he did about George Bush was to throw a little levity to the situation. But the album, ''American Idiot'' has NO levity and IS an indictment of Bush and the Iraqui War which Green Day are well informed about and against.