JDL2nd 26.10.2005 16:27 |
Now, most of us have downloaded the great Houston 1977 concert. Most of us already had the audio. Now you have seen this, share your opinion about the video with the rest of us. My opinion : Well, I have to say that the picture quality was better than I expected. Similar to one of the first versions of Earls Court. I have to say that it looks cool and it was a great concert. They were onfire, especially Freddie and John. They played both very well. Roger and Brian were OK. Brian seems a little bit dissatisfied with his guitar playing here and there. The setlist is very good. I love the setlists of the ADATR and NOTW tours. The audience seems to enjoy it. You can hear them shout things like "we want more !!!!!!!!!". The audio we have is soundboard. That's great. Is this good enough for a dvd ? My answer is NO. They didn't film very good. A lot of direction decisions seem very illogical , esspecially during the medley and in the songs where Freddie plays the piano. I think they filmed this concert with 4 cameras. Compare this video bootleg with Rainbow,Hammersmith 1975 and even Earls Court, if you look at the way how they filmed things. I think the conclusion is that this isn't the best, although this is probably the best concert of them all. |
tilomagnet 27.10.2005 14:20 |
Well, IMO it's the best Queen show that is available on video(maybe together with the Kampuchea'79 show). And I think it is indeed one of Queen's best ever performances, all NOTW shows were fantastic and Houston is no exception. And to all those people who say it's nothing special at all:Which concert(s) would you actually consider to be that much better than Houston? |
Over My Head 27.10.2005 14:34 |
Out of interest if it's not good enough for DVD would those who've heard the audio say it's good enough for a live album? |
Jay Mantis 27.10.2005 17:07 |
Right now I'm still downloading the video so I can't give my opinion just yet. Though I've streamed a few parts with VideoLan and it looked very good. Nice quality and the live version of Liar just rocks! As for the audio: I think with the original master tapes and some good equipment this could very well be something to release officially. |
My Melancholy Blues 28.10.2005 03:01 |
JDL2nd wrote: Now, most of us have downloaded the great Houston 1977 concert. Most of us already had the audio. Now you have seen this, share your opinion about the video with the rest of us. My opinion : Well, I have to say that the picture quality was better than I expected. Similar to one of the first versions of Earls Court. I have to say that it looks cool and it was a great concert. They were onfire, especially Freddie and John. They played both very well. Roger and Brian were OK. Brian seems a little bit dissatisfied with his guitar playing here and there. The setlist is very good. I love the setlists of the ADATR and NOTW tours. The audience seems to enjoy it. You can hear them shout things like "we want more !!!!!!!!!". The audio we have is soundboard. That's great. Is this good enough for a dvd ? My answer is NO. They didn't film very good. A lot of direction decisions seem very illogical , esspecially during the medley and in the songs where Freddie plays the piano. I think they filmed this concert with 4 cameras. Compare this video bootleg with Rainbow,Hammersmith 1975 and even Earls Court, if you look at the way how they filmed things. I think the conclusion is that this isn't the best, although this is probably the best concert of them all.I totally agree with you. Indeed, it's not the best filmed one, but it's one of their greatest ones ever and worth watching as well in spite of Brian's trouble in Somebody To Love and Liar... Personally I do hope it will be released. |
deleted user 28.10.2005 03:15 |
Well I was very happy about this being shared, it's the only News Of The World video on the bootleg market (in ok quality), which made this very intresting, the only thing I was a bit disappointed of was that it wasn't lipsynced, but that could be fixed. But I agree with Thijs that this is far from Queen's best performance, but it's a very good one as always ;) |
The Real Wizard 28.10.2005 23:19 |
My Melancholy Blues wrote: Indeed, it's not the best filmed one, but it's one of their greatest ones ever and worth wathing as well in spite of Brian's trouble in Somebody To Love and Liar...Yeah, Brian was pretty sloppy in many places in Houston. Total contrast to Japan 76, for example. |
brENsKi 29.10.2005 11:38 |
noe of these reviews are valid without the 'bohemianrhap84' input so sadly lacking... ;-) |
bleeding heart show 29.10.2005 15:44 |
It was just OK ! |
Rompez 29.10.2005 16:24 |
Yeah. Brian won't be happy to release it. But he can always do some overdubing... |
deleted user 29.10.2005 16:28 |
Why should you be concerned with some concert, when you should be concentrating on which kinds of Halloween candy the band members prefer or what flavor of Uncle Ben's Ready Rice they prefer? Does Brian May prefer the Teryaki flavor or the roasted chicken flavor? What kind of microwave does he use to cook Uncle Ben's Ready Rice? Does he put it in for the suggested time (90 seconds) or does he like it uncooked like I do? |
Lisser 29.10.2005 22:00 |
Rompez wrote: Yeah. Brian won't be happy to release it. But he can always do some overdubing...Do you guys think this is a main reason why it will probably never be officially released? I'm going to assume that Brian has a huge say in what concerts get released on to DVD. I'd say there is no way he'd let a less than perfect performance of his be official. He's too much of a perfectionist. What do you all think? |
Rick 30.10.2005 05:30 |
Houston is really not the best footage around. I mean, only a few camera's and the quality isn't that great. But it's nice footage overall, because not many NOTW gigs were filmed! Earls Court is also strangly filmed (I really hope the second night is better!), but the quality is amazing (watch Magic Years). Also the second night contains 31 songs, I believe, a hell of a setlist, so I hope it makes it into a DVD-release. I've heard they are working on Paris '79, I believe the second night. I never seen footage of that, but I know it is completely filmed. Hammy '79 is not in the hands of QP, I believe, but that is also a very good show, ah well, we'll see! |
Jjeroen 30.10.2005 06:15 |
There has been talk again about a multiple cd-set of the 1979 tour. |
Going Back 30.10.2005 06:40 |
Houston was amazing concert, deffenetly one of their best ones, but i think (i like) queen 25.11.1981 live in Montreal is their best one. (just my option) |
Tyfoon 30.10.2005 10:10 |
I cant find it anywhere could some post the link where i can download it then i will give my opinion! thank you. |
Knute 30.10.2005 20:44 |
I've seen half of it thus far. And my opinion of it? Fucking brilliant! I saw this tour a week later in Long Beach, CA, but I was a little kid and and there's no way I could've appreciate it like I do now. Wow! This is also the first 70's Queen concert I've seen on film. It emphasizes another thing that Queen were, and that's a fantastic live band that put a lot of effort into making it a great show and it shows!..lol Every tune is a highlight so far! Freddie is fantastic, No one could ever touch Freddie as far as THE lead singer of Queen. John is awesome as well. And as an aside, it's funny cos this makes what I saw in Hollywood last Saturday even more special. Q+PR never set out to best the legendary band on this video. They couldn't really. They just paid the ultimate compliment to Queen by making the material live again without mocking what they were. A very difficult thing to pull off in light of the cicumstances. |
My Melancholy Blues 30.10.2005 22:01 |
yeah it's brilliant! Recently I've been getting into it. The more I see it, surer I am that this is awesome especially Freddie... |
Daveboy35 31.10.2005 04:47 |
After watching the concert all the way through i have come to this conclusion it's very good it's the first NOTW tour i've seen and heard and it's sounds great. Nice extension to the medley "get down make love" is just fabulous in my opinion Brian's harmonizing effects sound stunning and unique,bit of a dodgy gig for him guitar wise sound problems and all, but the band very much in control obviously giving 100% to the cause all 4 on good form. Guitar solo i found different and unique in delivery especially with the rock n roll type solo i ilke the solo's so this one was great to hear. Roger taylor had a great night didn't put a foot wrong and john deacon what can i say does he make a mistake that man?, it's just great to finally see what was becoming the elusive concert we would never see. |
jabbo5150 18.11.2005 23:12 |
Great show. Great vocals from Freddie, though my favorite versions of Somebody To Love remaind the ones from the Live Killers through 82 period when he really pushed the high notes. |
carboengine 17.01.2006 19:42 |
I don't understand the bittorrent thing, but I did just buy this off of eBay. This is the first time I saw Freddie put ON clothes rather than take them off. (Black Harlequin leotard, then black belt and black leather jacket added.) Melancholy Blues - silky, beautiful. I'm In Love With My Car - the piano in it is stunning. I had only heard that song mostly with drums and guitars. Stone Cold Crazy - geez, always dynamite. I had seen photos of Freddie in his shiny silver leotard, but not video. Wow! And Jailhouse Rock at the end of the show - who would have thunk it - it is most certainly a revved up version compared to the sedate renditions in later concerts. |
Indo77 18.01.2006 05:18 |
I think Houston is far superior than any of the 80s concerts or Earl's Court. The concert is a reminder of what a great rock band Queen were in the 70s. Earl's Court would be a good show if the camera man actually shot what he was suppose to. It's a great setlist but some of the worst camera angles I have ever seen. |
Rik&Roll 18.01.2006 11:57 |
I love H77! Brian may have had some weeker moments, but overall the band was outstanding! Great setlist as well, without all the annoying songs you get in an eighties-show. Hammy75 is great, but short. Earls Court is very good as well (Brian´s outstanding) but loses on performance and setlist compared to Houston. Can´t wait for the Paris-release though. Hope that´s not just a rumour... |
fredrogbrijohn 19.01.2006 22:02 |
Downloaded awhile ago and finally burned on a DVD. AMAZING! I love how you can hear each member of the band clearly with no crowd noise masking anything. John is particularly amazing in this show! Love the many piano sequences with Freddie. Liar, White Man, Death on Two Legs, wow. Five stars. Two thumbs up. |
Negative Creep 20.01.2006 09:18 |
it's definitely a better performance than earls court. i wonder if they recorded houston to multitrack? i think earls court is more likely to see a dvd release though, because theyve recently remixed the audio track and the image quality is better than houston. it would be great if they released both together, but with qp, thats unlikely i think. |
tilomagnet 20.01.2006 09:25 |
Negative Creep wrote: i wonder if they recorded houston to multitrack?I was wondering that, too. If there is no multitrack recording of Houston, the show won't ever be released maybe other than including some snippets as bonus etc. Earls Court was definately multitracked as it was planned to be released. |
Negative Creep 20.01.2006 10:02 |
tilomagnet wrote:it would be sad if it wasn't released due to there being no multitrack though. there's nothing stopping them releasing earls court, and then having the houston show on a bonus disc - the whole thing. but something tells me queen productions wouldn't be up for that, for whatever reason.Negative Creep wrote: i wonder if they recorded houston to multitrack?I was wondering that, too. If there is no multitrack recording of Houston, the show won't ever be released maybe other than including some snippets as bonus etc. Earls Court was definately multitracked as it was planned to be released. |
ezee 20.01.2006 14:19 |
Hi folks, im long time reader and first time poster. I just wanted to share my opinion of the famed Houston 77 show. Like many others i waited a long time to get my hands on a copy. I thought the energy from the band was absolutley fantastic... although it was definatley an 'off night' for Brian. he seemed to be having some problems with his guitar set-up, be it tuning or what-not. it definatley threw him off his game. I cant say the rest of the band were faultless either, listen carefully and youll hear a few bum notes coming from Mr Deacons corner. I think its unfair to blame the cameramen for what we see, they were just doing their job, the director calls the shots for whats ultimatley presented to us... and for all we know the show was never edited properly in post production, so what we are seeing is a very very rough cut that somehow got leaked to us... same goes for Earls Court 77. Great Forum, <e> |
The Real Wizard 21.01.2006 00:17 |
ezee wrote: I think its unfair to blame the cameramen for what we see, they were just doing their job, the director calls the shots for whats ultimatley presented to us... and for all we know the show was never edited properly in post production, so what we are seeing is a very very rough cut that somehow got leaked to us... same goes for Earls Court 77. Great Forum, <e>I agree with your assessment there... too bad it's going go fly over most heads here, like most attempts of intellectual discussion. It's easier to blame someone than find a logical reason! Welcome to the forum, nonetheless! |
Indo77 21.01.2006 04:33 |
"I think its unfair to blame the cameramen for what we see, they were just doing their job, the director calls the shots for whats ultimatley presented to us... and for all we know the show was never edited properly in post production, so what we are seeing is a very very rough cut that somehow got leaked to us... same goes for Earls Court 77." If you reread my post I wasn't referring to the camera shots of Houston but Earl's Court. EC is a great concert but some of the swift camera swings and dodgy angles don't help the video. I am sure if they re-edited it for a DVD release they would fix some of the post production problems. I have no probelms with the way Houston was shot. "I agree with your assessment there... too bad it's going go fly over most heads here, like most attempts of intellectual discussion. It's easier to blame someone than find a logical reason! Welcome to the forum, nonetheless!" A logical reason???? So it's a logical reason that the camera shots are shaky throughout the concert and swing from what part of the stage to the next? Oh yeah there is a logical reason for it! Let's blame post production for everything! It must have went striaght over my head ;-) |
ezee 21.01.2006 12:00 |
Indo 77 If you reread my post I wasn't referring to the camera shots of Houston but Earl's Court. EC is a great concert but some of the swift camera swings and dodgy angles don't help the video. I am sure if they re-edited it for a DVD release they would fix some of the post production problems. I have no probelms with the way Houston was shot. Sorry, if i mis-read your post. Re-read mines and replace the words "Houston" with "Earls Court" and the same applies! |
Joeker 22.01.2006 13:50 |
Fuck you all. Earl's Court is the best live show of all time. |
usher 03.03.2006 22:34 |
great fuckin show sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer heart attack. |
goinback 04.03.2006 02:51 |
I like it but best show of all time?? Freddie doesn't really do much on WWRY (fast version)...I don't think he even goes up on the risers on the side.... |