Stelios 21.10.2005 14:49 |
I have been listening the other day, MY LIFE HAS BEEN SAVED from MIH. I was thinking that this song is so out of character, concept and general Queen standards. The structure is too simple, the arrangement is weak and the lyrics…please… Some people may dislike Body Language, Delilah and various other songs, but none of them is so pointless and non-original as this one. My point here is beyond personal taste witch I agree is totally judgeless and unique for everyone. Hope you catch my drift… |
Serry... 21.10.2005 15:35 |
Delilah and Body Language weren't only B-side releases as MLHBS originally is... |
Wilderness 21.10.2005 15:44 |
I don't think it's that bad. Me too, I don't like the lyrics, but I find the music OK. Sometimes a simple structure can be the most beautifull. Also, it's impossible to find an album with equal good songs. "MADE IN HEAVEN" has so many great songs like It's A Beautifull Day, Let Me Live, Mother Love, You Don't Fool Me and more... What I mean is that you have to fill in the space somehow. It's like Good Company from "A NIGHT AT THE OPERA". As for Body Language, it's more Freddie than QUEEN. I think the video is one of the funniest of all times. |
Boy Thomas Raker 21.10.2005 15:58 |
"What I mean is that you have to fill in the space somehow. It's like Good Company from "A NIGHT AT THE OPERA." Wilderness, given the fact that Good Company is one of the most complex, difficult to write, arrange and perform songs in the history of rock, I'll assume you know nothing about music. |
Wilderness 21.10.2005 16:37 |
As I said before, Beauty is in Simplicity. Complex arrangements and stuff like that are not enough to make a song really good. As for my music knowledge, well... I do have a certificate in music harmony, I can allways analyse a song in it's components but when I am listening to a song I don't care for the chord progression or the complex arrangement. I try to find the magic within, the thing that makes me shiver. Don't let me be misunderstood, okay ? I like the classic form, it makes the Queen songs unique. In their music you can find everything that has ever been written in any music theory book. It's quite amazing the harmony, counterpoint and orchestration they use. Also I love Bri's guitar arrangements It's just that sometimes this complex stuff leads to songs like Brighton Rock or The Prophet's Song and sometimes leads to things like Good Company Anyway, this is my personal opinion, you don't have to agree. But you have to agree that a complex chord progression dosn't make good music by it's self Otherwise, you are the one who knows nothing about music, dear BHM |
Adam Baboolal 21.10.2005 17:31 |
Wilderness wrote: But you have to agree that a complex chord progression dosn't make good music by it's self Otherwise, you are the one who knows nothing about music, dear BHMToo true. BHM 0271's opinion sounds like someone saying, boybands are crap because they can't play instruments. What matters, like Wilderness has said is, the basic idea. Remove all the complex things about Good Company and it's still a decent song, IMO. Peace, Adam. |
Boy Thomas Raker 21.10.2005 17:47 |
Wilderness, Adam, sorry, boys but you're wrong. CLTCL is simple and brilliant, as are a million other songs. I never argued that complexity makes a good song. Wilderness said that Good Company is filling in the space, in effect calling Good Company what's known derogatorily as 'filler.' Filler is throw away crap. I am arguing that by uttering this statement, and I apolgize for saying you know nothing about music, that was stupid of me, that you've made an incredibly uninformed statement bordering on ignorance. And further to STELIOS original points about MLHBS, he said that it didn't meet Queen's standards for structure, arrangement and the lyrics. I hope that you can't say with a straight face that any of those things are filler. I'd hazard a guess Good Company is amongst Brian's proudest moments. |
deleted user 21.10.2005 18:19 |
My Life Has Been Saved is one of the best songs of MIH thankyou very much. Your talking from here (points to butt). |
Adam Baboolal 21.10.2005 19:21 |
I certainly think MLHBS is a decent track. Let's hope I get it done soon... Peace, Adam. |
john bodega 22.10.2005 01:45 |
I didn't really like the instrumentation on that track. But it is pretty. As for Good Company... *NOT* filler. Agreed it might not be to everyone's taste but it's a pretty masterful piece of music. But anyway. |
JeroenG 22.10.2005 07:08 |
To be honest, I absolutely prefer the Scandal-B-side version of MLHBS above the MIH-version. The B-side version sounds more intimate to me. |
Adam Baboolal 22.10.2005 07:14 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I didn't really like the instrumentation on that track. But it is pretty. As for Good Company... *NOT* filler. Agreed it might not be to everyone's taste but it's a pretty masterful piece of music. But anyway.Wait a minute... a masterful piece of music? It's a good track, but forgetting the technical aspects of how it was put together, how is it a masterful piece of music? Peace, Adam. |
escuderodelareina 22.10.2005 08:39 |
WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT TRH STRUCTURE AND LYRICS FROM RADIO GAGA AND WE WILL ROCK YOU? IT ARE VERY SIMPLE BUT ARE GREATS HITS. |
john bodega 22.10.2005 08:45 |
It's masterful! Leave me alone! |
Fairy 22.10.2005 09:18 |
As others have said, a simple song isn't necessarily a bad song. As for the lyrics, I don't really find them to be pointless. |
Wilderness 22.10.2005 09:19 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Wilderness said that Good Company is filling in the space, in effect calling Good Company what's known derogatorily as 'filler.' Filler is throw away crap.I never used the words "throw away crap" . Of course Good Company is not crap at all. It's a nice, decent song, which is used to fill in the space between two masterpieces such as Love Of My Life and Bohemian Rhapsody. There's nothing wrong with that, in fact it's impossible to have 12 or 15 masterpieces in one single album. You need the 'fillers'. |
Serry... 22.10.2005 09:22 |
'Yesterday' is, probably, one of the greatest tunes ever written by human, but talking about technical difficulty of the recording or playing of this track..... |
Fairy 22.10.2005 09:49 |
Yeah. Many songs by the Beatles are very easy to play, still they are wonderful. |
Saint Jiub 22.10.2005 10:54 |
MLHBS is one of Queen's worst songs (the lyrics are absolute sap and drivel). GC on the other hand is an under-appreciated masterpiece (love that all guitar jazz band). |
Saint Jiub 22.10.2005 11:35 |
MLHBS is so bland it is almost like elevator music. |
Fairy 22.10.2005 11:37 |
Funny how tastes differ. I love that song actually! |
Boy Thomas Raker 22.10.2005 15:00 |
Wilderness, I never said that you used the words throw away crap. I said that you felt that Good Company "is filling in the space." I added that in effect YOU were "calling Good Company what's known derogatorily as filler. Filler is throw away crap." We disagree on what filler is, that's all, which is ironic since IMHO, almost every song on the album that MLHBS is on is what I'd call filler! |
Wilderness 22.10.2005 15:41 |
Well, I guess there's nothing bad in having different opinions. We will never agree, dear BHM. In my personal opinion, the album "MADE IN HEAVEN" contains 8 great songs and 3 of what I call "fillers' . But I have to agree that the jazz guitar in Good Company is great. Maybe the only great thing about that song. |
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Boy Thomas Raker 22.10.2005 16:38 |
Absolutely Wilderness! I was probably cranky by saying you don't know anything about music since this board at times seems to be overrun by pre-schoolers who know squat about Queen, I'm sorry. For the record, I agree with the original post about MLHBS. The MIH version is one of Queen's worst efforts ever. I love the B-side though, I think the life was drained out of the MIH version, and it did end up sounding like elevator music. |
Going Back 22.10.2005 17:06 |
i think it's a great song and one of the best queen songs ever and please don't bring me down because i like that song it's just what i think... |
Wilderness 22.10.2005 18:32 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Absolutely Wilderness! I was probably cranky by saying you don't know anything about music since this board at times seems to be overrun by pre-schoolers who know squat about Queen, I'm sorry.Apology accepted. I sometimes feel the same way. |
Adam Baboolal 22.10.2005 19:00 |
BHM 0271 wrote: The MIH version is one of Queen's worst efforts ever. I love the B-side though, I think the life was drained out of the MIH version, and it did end up sounding like elevator music.Moe Szyslak: Whaaaa? Surely the b-side version is far corny-er sounding! Peace, Adam. |
Boy Thomas Raker 23.10.2005 01:20 |
No, the lack of guitar, in my humble opinion, made the MIH version sound like elevator music. Pretty simple, I think even Moe would understand. |
Adam Baboolal 23.10.2005 12:08 |
BHM 0271 wrote: No, the lack of guitar, in my humble opinion, made the MIH version sound like elevator music.I think you'll find that most of the guitar parts from the b-side version are present in the MIH version. Just a little harder to hear. If anything the MIH version has merely adds some nicer instrumentation and a better sounding outro. Plus it spreads out the original guitar parts for variety rather than repeating itself, like the b-side did with the solo or rhythm parts. And I always felt the b-side version sounded a little "cliche 80's" with its production. Peace, Adam. |