| carboengine 15.10.2005 12:50 |
Brighton Rock was the most ambitious, but excluding that, what was the most difficult Queen song or guitar riff Brian played either on stage or recorded in a studio. I read that BoRap on stage was definitely challenging. |
| Going Back 15.10.2005 12:51 |
IMHO i think probably ,,love of my life'' |
| bohemian 11513 15.10.2005 13:54 |
"The Show Must Go On"... !!! |
| Bohardy 15.10.2005 14:35 |
Possibly the Invisible Man solo. The Miracle album contains Bri's most technically difficult and adventurous guitar-work. There are many runs and fills throughout that album that require great technique in order to pull them off correctly. In fact, I think the most technically difficult thing Bri ever did is a very fast ascending run that only features in the 12" version of Scandal. He's almost shredding there. |
| Serry... 15.10.2005 15:12 |
My Melancholy Blues - live version... Well, I ain't guitarist so I don't know, but maybe as Bohard wrote - The Invisible Man and You Don't Fool Me? |
| Hank H. 15.10.2005 15:34 |
I think he once said that his most difficult work was on some collaboration that has never seen the light of day. Quite a clever move, because thus it's impossible to judge how virtuoso he really his. |
| its_a_hard_life 15.10.2005 18:21 |
You mean stuff from his solo albums or Queen songs he wrote? |
| epwchill 15.10.2005 18:45 |
I would assume it would be the stuff off Queen II, if were refering to overall. That Album had the most Multi-tracking on his part i believe. Just refering to live jams, I would say his solo on Princes of the Universe. |
| kudilja 15.10.2005 19:15 |
what about Put Out The Fire solo? |
| kweenqueen 16.10.2005 02:56 |
"what about Put Out The Fire solo? " Yeah, that's the one! Since he was shit-faced when he did it... :o) |
| Banquo 16.10.2005 05:24 |
I love that story about the Put out the Fire solo. Brian having been out on the piss all night hears a echo through his cans courtesy of Mack. Gets excited and wants to put it on every track. Mack, thank god suggest POTF. Body Language could do with it though. |
| ANAGRAMER 16.10.2005 06:00 |
Dead on time - overlooked and virtually impossible to play! |
| deleted user 16.10.2005 08:26 |
hehe who knows brians the best he knows hot to play all of them hes the best!!!!1 |
| john bodega 16.10.2005 09:04 |
I can play just about any solo or riff he put to magnetic tape - Princes of the Universe, Invisible Man... but the ONE thing that still eludes me after all these years is about five seconds in Brighton Rock. I don't get it, I *know* how to play it but for the life of me I can't! But yeah. I spent around two or three years learning how to play Queen songs and it got a little boring... it was actually a bit unhealthy, my style lingers a little close to Queen for my liking (in that, one might say I'm ripping them off). :( Most difficult? Hmmm... - Bohemian Rhapsody isn't *nearly* as hard as all that. - I actually find some of his guitar parts on March of the Black Queen to be very tricky. - A song that is HUGE fun to play is Innuendo, from beginning to end. The guitar parts are very slow in the main body of the song, but the 'flamenco' bit is a buzz to play (I play both parts at once, unfortunately this doesn't sound quite as good as double tracking but oh well). - The Breakthru solo is such an energetic thing to play... it actually makes me feel physically cheerful to bang that one out. - Unfortunately, my delay thing broke about a year ago so I haven't really bothered with Brighton Rock. But if you can get such a device, it makes playing so much fun. - The Princes of the Universe solo is really really simple, very easy to play if you practise - but when people hear it, they're jaws drop and they go "HOW????". What fun. - Bijou is beautiful, but I've never sat down to learn it all. - The Scandal solo is a challenge and a half... - The bit that clinched learning Queen for me (I mean, it's the last Queen thing I really learnt) was Invisible Man's solo. I genuinely used to listen to that and think that he cheated somehow. But, it's entirely possible and I play it heaps as a party trick. It was probably the hardest thing to learn, and I can only manage it on a good night. And there you have it, that's all I can say. I'd be interested to hear from more guitarists about playing Queen though, I wanna know what you think having done it yourselves. :D |
| JDL2nd 16.10.2005 10:38 |
Put out the fire |
| john bodega 16.10.2005 10:56 |
Put out the Fire is another tricky one, largely because it's outside of his usual style. To be honest I've never really made a go of it. Keep 'em coming, I dig this thread. |
| carboengine 16.10.2005 11:44 |
I found this online sheet music site that has Queen selections. Has anyone tried it? link Arrow down a bit and there you are. Its "Guitar Guru" section looks comprehensive with a guitar finger chart and digital choices if you just want to work on a particular area of a song, plus you can repeat the area and even slow it down. Gosh, it makes me wish I played guitar. I once tried piano, but the teacher suggested I take up a different hobby. |
| kudilja 16.10.2005 17:41 |
Put out the fire solo tricky one? I don't understand... |
| john bodega 17.10.2005 01:32 |
Well I dunno. It (Put out the Fire solo) isn't any trickier than the others when you come down to it, but it's a little different (probably because he's drunk while doing it) and whenever I try it I usually slide into something more familiar. Heck thats just me. |
| EddieVanHalen 17.10.2005 13:43 |
I really like to play the solo from Heaven for everyone, 'cos it's very simple but sounds really sweet. I also like the solo in Was it all worth it because it sounds really dark and yet very melodic. |
| Fireplace 17.10.2005 14:56 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I can play just about any solo or riff he put to magnetic tape - Princes of the Universe, Invisible Man... but the ONE thing that still eludes me after all these years is about five seconds in Brighton Rock. I don't get it, I *know* how to play it but for the life of me I can't!Would that be the screaming lick played twice just after the vocals? Even with the Starlicks video right in front of me I can't seem to get that one down. |
| john bodega 18.10.2005 00:30 |
Yeah, he plays it (TWICE...) at around 1:53 into the song... I can recall when I was just learning the song, I did it faultlessly! Since then I dunno... it's left me :( |
| Roy Queen 18.10.2005 05:49 |
White Queen |
| Bohardy 18.10.2005 08:25 |
Are you talking about the bit in 12th position that occurs in the 15th and 17th lines of tab here? link To me that's not that difficult. The fingering and the patterns are nice and familiar. The only difficulty is getting the speed, which comes quite easily after a brief bit of sustained practice. It's nothing too difficult. Seems like you've just got some weird mental-block with that one Zebonka. |
| john bodega 18.10.2005 08:45 |
Yeah, mental block would have to be it. My fingers just sort of trip over at that bit. |
| The Real Wizard 19.10.2005 13:45 |
Agreed, The Miracle has some amazing guitar work on it. Brian showed the world that he could do sweep picking (Was It All Worth It) and lightning-fast chromatics (The Invisible Man). Sure, of course he probably practiced these parts for hours, or even days. But had he practiced more, he could have hit the point where these kinds of things would have been one-take, every time. But that's not the kind of guitarist Brian is. He's not a technical player. He's a feel player... an emotive player. But if he really wants to do some technical stuff, he can. He has done a lot of tapping in his day as well... It's Late, Resurrection, and Cyborg are the first three that come to mind. I recall reading an interview with Brian, regarding when he met up with Eddie Van Halen in 1983. He said they tried to show each other their respective tapping styles (Eddie's speed vs. Brian's bending), and they both couldn't play the other's way! |
| Lisser 19.10.2005 13:52 |
Can someone tell me exactly what bending strings are? Kind of break it down for me? ;) |
| The Real Wizard 19.10.2005 14:07 |
You play a note, and you literally bend the string with your finger, which makes the note sound higher, as you're tightening the string. Make sense? Kind of?!? |
| PieterMC 19.10.2005 14:08 |
Lisser wrote: Can someone tell me exactly what bending strings are? Kind of break it down for me? ;)link |
| Awesome-O _4000 19.10.2005 19:36 |
I agree with Dead on Time. Very cool. |
| john bodega 20.10.2005 04:34 |
I only just started listening to Dead on Time - it's like Brighton Rock and Keep Yourself Alive had a baby! I love this track. The parts don't sound insanely difficult, but they're very very fast. Fretboard tapping - gimmicky but very cool if used wisely, I love the subtle uses of it on It's Late. |
| Nuno 20.10.2005 10:12 |
there is a song by Soundgarden that Brian plays on (can't think what is called) And that is a great solo I even remember an interview with Brian saying that is one of his best solo's Excellent piece of guitar playing |
| Fireplace 20.10.2005 19:36 |
Bohardy wrote: Are you talking about the bit in 12th position that occurs in the 15th and 17th lines of tab here? link To me that's not that difficult. The fingering and the patterns are nice and familiar. The only difficulty is getting the speed, which comes quite easily after a brief bit of sustained practice. It's nothing too difficult. Seems like you've just got some weird mental-block with that one Zebonka.My problem with that piece (the same Zebonka's talking about) is the timing, not so much the fingering or the speed. The rythm seems to turn around halfway, if you know what I mean. Got any tips on that too? |
| ANAGRAMER 22.10.2005 08:13 |
Has anyone played Invisible Man track at 2/3rds speed? - I doubt that the solo is live (Brian actually claims it to be so in GVH2 - is he telling a porky perhaps?) |
| john bodega 22.10.2005 08:45 |
It's live when I do it. |
| Sherwood Forest 22.10.2005 11:35 |
innuendo theres 4 different guitar parts |
| john bodega 23.10.2005 00:07 |
Which bit are we talking about? |