| beautifulsoup 12.10.2005 00:18 |
What year? '87, I'm thinking...? I dunno. Okay - I'm *sure* this has been covered before. But I'm not finding it. If anyone has a link to where this might have already been discussed, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. |
| john bodega 12.10.2005 03:46 |
1988. John was wandering what his marks were. Or so I read, isn't this a little morbid? :P |
| Serry... 12.10.2005 06:47 |
There are different versions actually... Each new year cames with another one version... |
| abe 12.10.2005 07:11 |
From the different interviews we read with Brian May, it seems during the 'Innuendo' (1990/91) era that Mercury advised his bandmates of his condition, check out the March "MOJO" magazine, some interesting reads regarding Queen in Mercury's last 2-3 years. As we know however, Brian, Roger and John all new something wasn't right with Freddie's well-being from as early as 1986 onwards. |
| its_a_hard_life 12.10.2005 07:53 |
abe wrote: From the different interviews we read with Brian May, it seems during the 'Innuendo' (1990/91) era that Mercury advised his bandmates of his condition, check out the March "MOJO" magazine, some interesting reads regarding Queen in Mercury's last 2-3 years. As we know however, Brian, Roger and John all new something wasn't right with Freddie's well-being from as early as 1986 onwards.Exacty... read "Mercury King Of Queen" good book tell you about his life from day one untill death and how the band coped. |
| GreatKingSam 12.10.2005 08:11 |
During one of the many documentaries since 2000ish, there is an interview with Brian, and in it - and I'm sure he says something like this - that there was an argument during the Magic Tour about the way a song should be played, and Freddie turned around and kinda said "we're gonna do it this way, becuase I might not be around much longer" and Brian says it all kinda made em sit up and think what he could have meant, and basically it had been in their minds that something was up since then. But like Serry says, every year there is a new story about when they were actually told, but I would imagine it was before Innuendo, possibly during, or even before, The Miracle. But thats just my simple opinion. |
| john bodega 12.10.2005 08:17 |
Aye I know there's a million versions. The one that I quoted seemed to make sense to me since: *Freddie told Monsterrat about his illness sometime in 87/88. *John asked her what the marks were during a holiday in Ibizia. It just makes sense to me that they find out around then, and then they go into overdrive making the last two albums. But anyway. Who knows. Hooah. |
| kdj2hot 12.10.2005 09:38 |
I agree because based on other information I've read which may or may not be false, wasn't Mr. Mercury told he may not live to see the release of the Miracle, the "fact" he told Monsterat, plus the not touring. That definitely, I think would make him feel that he was obligated to let them know why he didn't wanna tour especially since Roger and Brian really wanted to tour. |
| beautifulsoup 12.10.2005 10:53 |
Okay. Thanks. |
| deleted user 12.10.2005 13:48 |
hehe yes well as soon as freddie found out he had aids he told his best 2 best friends which was brian may and roger taylor then he told john. Freddie told them in 1986 thats when he found out guyzzzz what time is the radio station intervuing brian roger nad paul rodgers and what radio station is it????Please say something people thankssssssxxxxxxxx |
| deleted user 12.10.2005 13:51 |
i think he told them in 1986 maybe he kept it a secret at first then brian or roger asked then he said ... |
| inu-liger 12.10.2005 16:32 |
He couldn't've told them any earlier than 1987 at the earliest, 'cos THAT was the year he was officially diagnosed HIV positive. |
| kdj2hot 12.10.2005 16:49 |
I don't know why Beckly would post when she obviously have no clue what she's talking about> Also from what I gather he found out he had AIDS in 1987, not that he was HIV positive. If you don't get tested early enough that could happen. Especially then since the test wasn't available until 1985. |
| inu-liger 12.10.2005 16:53 |
Well, according to the excerpt I have from the story about him in the boxset collection from 2000, he was "officially diagnosed HIV Positive in 1987" |
| @ndy38 12.10.2005 17:07 |
I just thought he told them during the making of the Miracle, 1988 or something. I've never heard of the whole 'John asked Freddie what the marks on his face were' story, and i don't think it's true. Brian said they could begin to tell something was wrong gradually until he told them straight out, not because anyone asked him anything about it. |
| brENsKi 12.10.2005 18:27 |
1975 - when he wrote bo rhap about it zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| doremi 12.10.2005 18:44 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: 1975 - when he wrote bo rhap about it zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzLOL! like a broken record eh! |
| Chamo25 12.10.2005 19:19 |
From a VH1 documentary, Brian said that they knew something was wrong with him. Then, one day Freddie set up a meeting and said: "Listen, you probably know what I'm dealing with....I have this thing, you know...and as far as I'm concerned there's no cure. I don't want anybody to know about this and I don't need to talk about this anymore, and that's it" No year or date was specified, but I believe in this because it wasn't a book or magazine who published this, it was actually Brian May who say it on an interview. I have it recorded on a VHS and I wish I can find it. I remember the show was called "Legends: Queen" from VH1. |
| MercuryArts 12.10.2005 19:24 |
kdj2hot wrote: I don't know why Beckly would post when she obviously have no clue what she's talking about> |
| john bodega 12.10.2005 22:57 |
"'John asked Freddie what the marks on his face were' story" Of course you haven't. It's because John asked Monsterrat at Ibizia. |
| Winter Land Man 12.10.2005 23:13 |
Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote: He couldn't've told them any earlier than 1987 at the earliest, 'cos THAT was the year he was officially diagnosed HIV positive.And Mary Austin says 1984. Honestly, Freddie would tell Mary before anyone, but according to her, it was her who answered the phone because Freddie just didn't want to hear or face the fact of it. |
| kdj2hot 12.10.2005 23:51 |
I would love to know the details of that (me and a million other people lol) because the test wasn't available until 1985 and I would love to know how he was diagnosed in 1984 without showing sarcoma or any other symptons. Freddie was rich maybe he had the test before it was approved, and I just thought of something else, it was approved by the FDA in 1985 so it might've definitely been available in europe before then so yeah who knows. |
| john bodega 13.10.2005 08:23 |
Hmmm. It's all very confusing. I don't get any of it. Generally, the way it works the best in my head is: *He thinks something is up from around '84 onwards, or at the very least he's just paranoid because the AIDS thing has become serious. *He knows something is up in '86. Don't ask me how. It just seems like that - and after Knebworth he says to Brian very abruptly "I don't want to do it anymore". *Gets diagnosed in '87, we all know that because it's in the book. *He tells Monsterrat while they're working on Barcelona. She's shocked because he's still so great at what he does. *I reckon the band found out in 88. As I've said before, John asked Monsterrat what the marks were, so it was becoming obvious something was up. And work on The Miracle started around then, so there's nothing that'll get a musician working faster than a death sentence (very sad, but very true). There you have it, that's just how it sounds right to me. Too morbid this crap :( |
| Winter Land Man 13.10.2005 08:30 |
kdj2hot wrote: I would love to know the details of that (me and a million other people lol) because the test wasn't available until 1985 and I would love to know how he was diagnosed in 1984 without showing sarcoma or any other symptons. Freddie was rich maybe he had the test before it was approved, and I just thought of something else, it was approved by the FDA in 1985 so it might've definitely been available in europe before then so yeah who knows.Hint, look at the back of Freddie's arms at live aid. And actually, they did have tests for it in 1984, even look it up. |
| kdj2hot 13.10.2005 09:10 |
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| kdj2hot 13.10.2005 09:11 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:I just did a quick google search and in the first couple results ""Traditional" blood antibody tests: These tests were first developed in 1985 and were the first HIV tests available."kdj2hot wrote: I would love to know the details of that (me and a million other people lol) because the test wasn't available until 1985 and I would love to know how he was diagnosed in 1984 without showing sarcoma or any other symptons. Freddie was rich maybe he had the test before it was approved, and I just thought of something else, it was approved by the FDA in 1985 so it might've definitely been available in europe before then so yeah who knows.Hint, look at the back of Freddie's arms at live aid. And actually, they did have tests for it in 1984, even look it up. link Sayinglook it up ceems a lil like a cop out for not having any facts, that's like a total pet peeve of mine. I really would like to know what testing methods were used because I can't find anything, maybe my fault totally. |