QueenZone discussion #634669
This makes me sick!!!
| Chamo25 06.10.2005 10:10 |
link Bohemian Rahpsody # 163? no Crazy little, UP, AOBTD, WWRY, WATC, YMBF? I don't understand why RS magazine are so Anti-Queen. I mean, what do they consider "GREATEST"? If you go to any NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA game you hear WWRY. You see a reality show (Rockstar:INXS) and they perform BO RAH several times. WATC is a worldwide anthem for sports...Anyways, it was probably discussed before but I needed to let it out before I choke! |
| Serry... 06.10.2005 10:18 |
They calls 'Coldplay' as the best band in the world now, so what do you expect from them... |
| deleted user 06.10.2005 10:19 |
Who gives a fuck. You like Bohemian Rhapsody, don't you? then it's allright, isn't it? |
| MercuryArts 06.10.2005 10:32 |
RS is a weak publication. Only to be out done by Hollywood Records. I went through the entire latest issue & there was no ad for ROTC. |
| Chamo25 06.10.2005 10:56 |
You're right Dennis.... |
| dimcyril 06.10.2005 12:06 |
good to see like a rolling stone at number one. too bloody right, it's a brilliant song! |
| spymyshadow 06.10.2005 12:46 |
Serry... wrote: They calls 'Coldplay' as the best band in the world now, so what do you expect from them...when I heard chris martin singing I thought they were kicking a dog in the ass... |
| Lord Blackadder 06.10.2005 13:08 |
dimcyril wrote: good to see like a rolling stone at number one. too bloody right, it's a brilliant song!I don't like that song. But it cannot be number one. What is the most well known song in the world? There's your number one... |
| The Real Wizard 06.10.2005 13:25 |
Rolling Stone has always been a garbage magazine. Here's a great post once written by Arlene about them: "Most of their writers are very slanted and what they write or cover (or don't cover) is very biased and based on politics, trends, money, etc. R.S. has had a running war with Queen since the 1970's. It is virtually impossible for them to say anything of merit, or to even be civil to Queen. When R.S. reviewed Queen's live South American show in the 80's,...the infamous one that pissed off Roger so bad he wrote them an angry letter on an airline sickness bag... ...the idiot writer from R.S. based his review..on Queen's SOUNDCHECK. How freakin' unprofessional is that? No band is gonna sound good at a soundcheck. THAT's WHY it's called a souncheck. To hammer out and rehearse any glitches in the performance, the instruments, the soundboard, etc. FYI too. Most of the so called ''GREAT' long term writers for R.S. aren't even trained journalists with college journalism degrees. They all started out as 15, 16 year old kids and groupies in the 1960's hanging out with rockers and the R.S. original ''office'' was a hippy hang out pad in San Fransisco. It's not like other newspapers or magazines where you have to have a degree and experience in journalism. And...if for any reason you are on the SH*t list of Publisher/Founder/Editor In Chief Jann Wanner...R.S. will nail your ass to the wall. If you are on the good side of Jann Wanner...you get continuous glowing coverage even if your music...or film, book, whatever is utter SHITE!!!!" |
| its_a_hard_life 06.10.2005 13:43 |
Bohemian rhapsody fucking ROCKS! Some people just dont see a good song when it comes to them! |
| JasmineXWarrior 06.10.2005 16:22 |
What is the most well known song in the world? There's your number one...#Happy birthday to you... |
| Roy Queen 06.10.2005 16:47 |
Rolling Stone is the most pathetic magazine in the whole fucking world. What magazine hate Queen more than this american rubbish?! |
| brENsKi 06.10.2005 17:04 |
and whoever started this thread has a very weak stomach... would you be happy if EVERY FUCKING poll that's ever done puts Bo Rhap at no1?...sounds like that's what you want..... why don't some people round here get themselves a life...instead of living vicariously through queen's past lives |
| Yoda 06.10.2005 17:48 |
its_a_hard_life wrote: Bohemian rhapsody fucking ROCKS! Some people just dont see a good song when it comes to them!HERE, HERE!!! |
| The prophet's song 06.10.2005 18:07 |
It's quite ironic that that had 'like a rolling stone' and a song by the rolling stones as the top 2 when the magazine is the rolling stone. ha ha, they were all probably too stoned when they wrote the list to appreciate GOOD music like Queen! |
| The prophet's song 06.10.2005 18:08 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: I know only one good music-magazine, and that's Downbeat. Sadly for you, it focusses on jazz.what about "rip it up". thats a good one |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 06.10.2005 18:38 |
To Chamo25, You make a really good point about how strange the "Rolling Stone" list of greatest songs was. I think that the problem with it, if I remember, was that it did not really sample a large number of people. As a result, I think that the results were really not statistically significant. On the other hand, I think that we should all complain when shit like this happens. If enough people wrote in letters complaining, RS would get the message that it is not OK to ignore Queen. Since RS tries to be so politically correct, I wonder why they are not ashamed about downplaying the contributions of a group whose lead singer was a gay man who died of AIDS. I think that if a lot of people wrote letters in complaint the next time something like this happens, they would probably publish one of them (I've had editorial letters published) and they would probably be more careful the next time. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 07.10.2005 01:02 |
Rolling Stone are anti-Queen, anti-Pink Floyd and anti-Rush. The only old RS reviewers that liked PF were Anthony DeCurtis, David Fricke and Kurt Loder. Loder gave The Wall and The Final Cut favorable reviews and he also liked David Gilmour's About Face despite hating Roger Waters' Pros and Cons. RS is now Bitchney Sneers and phlEghMINEM and Pisstina Aquafina central! Fuck RS! |
| Brandon 07.10.2005 02:58 |
Hello, everyone... Rolling Stone panders like noone else. The list is politically correct. I mean, just like VH1 there are x% of minority songs in the top 100, there are representatives from different genres of music, etc. Obviously, the list is formulaic, uncreative and manufactured with the intentions of highlighting music through the decades. Also, a 500 list of all time is impossible as these are all popular singles in the states only. Personally, I think many album cuts are better than singles. So, read it if you're bored, take it with a grain of salt, and laugh anf mock RS to their face and behind their back. |
| gem27 07.10.2005 03:55 |
sorry but Bob Dylan is really awful |
| kudilja 07.10.2005 05:50 |
I read somewhere that RS described QUEEN Album Jazz as a 'fascist'...oh my... |
| dimcyril 07.10.2005 07:02 |
gem27 wrote: sorry but Bob Dylan is really awfuloh no he isn't. have you ever listened to any of his songs/albums? he is the greatest songwriter of all time in my opinion. ask any songwriter 'who is your greatest influence?' i bet a large proportion would answer 'Bob Dylan' |
| dimcyril 07.10.2005 07:06 |
gem27 wrote: sorry but Bob Dylan is really awfulalso i see you rate hot space as one of the greatest queen albums. enough said.... listen to Dylan sing something like Jokerman, Idiot wind or Just like a woman. certainly beats the hell out of backchat, body language and cool cat. |
| gem27 07.10.2005 17:58 |
a large proportion probably would but so what. i cant stand his crappy songs and whiny voice. best song writer of all time thats very good! even if he is (which he is not) he cant sing a note |
| deleted user 08.10.2005 06:29 |
he's not that great... |
| Rockyuk 08.10.2005 11:09 |
Bob Dylan is excellent. His songs do drag on abit though. |
| tomazrui 08.10.2005 11:51 |
link gives better lists. Rolling Stone sucks hard. |
| gihona 08.10.2005 11:58 |
RollingStone magazine is a lousy one, always was and always will be. what are you so excited about? |
| gem27 08.10.2005 13:50 |
i am not going to lie and say ive heard lots of Bob Dylan songs but the ones i have heard ive heared them covered far better by other bands than his versions! Mr Tambourine Man was done better by the Byrds, Knocking on Heavens Door was done better by Guns N Roses and Like a Rolling Stone was done done far better by The Rolling Stones. I do know lots of people who think hes great but just to me hes awful |
| brENsKi 08.10.2005 16:57 |
1. - the byrds version of Mr Tambourine Man - is the version that the vast majority of people are aware of. Of course everyone knows Dylan wrote it, but his version blows. At least the Byrds gave it a bit of late 60s feel. 2. Dylan has a voice that sounds like a cat being dragged through a cheese-grater - he maybe albe to write great songs - but he's one of only a handful of artists - who is would say was 'generally' covered better than his originals...manfred Mann, van Morrison, the byrds - they all made his songs come to life |
| gem27 08.10.2005 19:02 |
Thank you Brenski cheers mate. yep hes hard listening and music should be easy listening! |
| NOTWMEDDLE 09.10.2005 00:30 |
gem27 wrote: i am not going to lie and say ive heard lots of Bob Dylan songs but the ones i have heard ive heared them covered far better by other bands than his versions! Mr Tambourine Man was done better by the Byrds, Knocking on Heavens Door was done better by Guns N Roses and Like a Rolling Stone was done done far better by The Rolling Stones. I do know lots of people who think hes great but just to me hes awfulEven David Gilmour's goofy take of Like a Rolling Stone which he recorded as a joke whilst fiddling with one of his kids' keybaords was great, it was recorded in 1983/84. |
| brENsKi 09.10.2005 10:16 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Brenski: you have a listen to stuff like "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" and "Girl From The North Country", as well as many others, and THEN you dare tell me his vocals suck!Casper, errrmmm - NO I DON'T have to listen to it. i stand by my original statement his vocals - DO sound like a cat being dragged through a cheese-grater, his voice is blow(ing in the wind) - bigtime.... face facts casper - just because YOU like him doesn't make him great - you are in a small minority around here. most people don't like dylan - not because they don't get him (so please don't get all prissy and snobbish and cite that as a reason) - just simply because tHEY DON'T like him!!! i like John Wayne films (i have oevr 60) but most people these days don't like John Wayne - i accept that for most the Duke belongs to a time long-since-past, - perhaps you should do the adult thing here - and accept 'most people's' rights to not like Dylan for these self same reasons.... |
| deleted user 09.10.2005 11:06 |
i dont know if im being of much help, but we will rock you is on there at #330 |
| Suigi 09.10.2005 12:34 |
In related news, Blender released a list of the 500 Greatest Songs Made Since You Were Born. In other words, 1980 and on. Billie Jean got the top spot. And guess how many Queen tunes? Zero. I already emailed them about their grievous error. |
| The Fairy King 09.10.2005 19:16 |
Queen not liked by the press..woh big shock there. Never seen so many people get wound up what a few people say about their fave band. And hitlists, chart or whatever are NEVER to everyone's satisfaction. So get a bloody life. |
| The Fairy King 09.10.2005 19:17 |
woops DP |
| deleted user 09.10.2005 21:02 |
0 queen in a list of 500? that is just cruel |
| Greyleaf 10.10.2005 00:09 |
"Knocking on Heavens Door was done better by Guns N Roses" No. |
| great king rat 1138 10.10.2005 06:41 |
Lord Blackadder wrote:Well known doesn't always mean good. Remember, the spice girls were probably the most well-known group on the planet a few years ago, but they certainly weren't the best!dimcyril wrote: good to see like a rolling stone at number one. too bloody right, it's a brilliant song!I don't like that song. But it cannot be number one. What is the most well known song in the world? There's your number one... |
| deleted user 10.10.2005 07:35 |
People have no taste in music nowadays. |
| brENsKi 10.10.2005 12:46 |
no Casper - i have three dylan albums (admittedly one is a double greatest hits - Essential) the others are Blonde On Blonde and Blood On The Tracks and i don't play them much BECAUSE , although there's soem good (and great songs) - hate his fucking voice - i honestly thought you';d picked up on that by now songs of his sound 1000% better sung by other groups - two in partcular It's All Over Now Baby Blue (Manfred Mann's earthband and Van Morrison) - both version blow dydlan's away Mighty Quinn (again MMEB ace) Casper you backed a horse with three legs (and a bad voice)this time, get over it. |
| Saint Jiub 10.10.2005 14:44 |
Bob Dylan sounds so nasal because he did too much cocaine in his youth. |
| brENsKi 11.10.2005 12:17 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: The thought that your views on what is beautiful and what is not in vocals might not be universal has not struck you? Has the entire 20th century passed you by, by any chance? Are you aware that this is EXACTLY what the likes of Brecht and Weill have been working on since the '20s?why do YOU always have to take the view that people who disagree with you are extremists? ffs casper,,, if you ask the majority of people if thwey like Bob Dylan's voice (even in ehre) they'd say no. Now pelase understand this - i said MAJORITY - not ALL - okay!!! and if you ask the majority to choose a favourite version of It's All Over Now Baby Blue - it won't be Dylan's - it'll likely be Van the Man's or Manfred mann's Earthband now please - if you're going to reply use facts and figures...mine came from here - a bunch of queen fans - of those who elected to say so - most said they don't like Dylan |
| brENsKi 11.10.2005 14:31 |
the_hero wrote:and soem even had the fucking never to rewrite the lyrics - and steal the tuneGreyleaf wrote: "Knocking on Heavens Door was done better by Guns N Roses" No.after Bob Dylan we also had Eric Clapton singing it.. and there is a pink floyd version. And I bet about a million bands have covered it afterwards before GnR. The Verve - lucky Man gabriel - Rise |
| dimcyril 14.10.2005 08:51 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:the thing is with Bob Dylan is that he doesn't have a classicly good voice. what his voice has is character. he can deliver a song brilliantly and his phrasing is superb.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: The thought that your views on what is beautiful and what is not in vocals might not be universal has not struck you? Has the entire 20th century passed you by, by any chance? Are you aware that this is EXACTLY what the likes of Brecht and Weill have been working on since the '20s?why do YOU always have to take the view that people who disagree with you are extremists? ffs casper,,, if you ask the majority of people if thwey like Bob Dylan's voice (even in ehre) they'd say no. Now pelase understand this - i said MAJORITY - not ALL - okay!!! and if you ask the majority to choose a favourite version of It's All Over Now Baby Blue - it won't be Dylan's - it'll likely be Van the Man's or Manfred mann's Earthband now please - if you're going to reply use facts and figures...mine came from here - a bunch of queen fans - of those who elected to say so - most said they don't like Dylan many many singers with 'good' voices can't sing with originality and character. but many singers who don't have what most people would consider a good voice can deliver a song brilliantly. off the top of my head people such as bruce springsteen, tom petty, van morrison, mark knopfler, tom waite, neil young, roger waters, jimi hendrix. i think dylan is the master of perfect delivery even though his voice does have many limitations in musical terms. cover versions of his material to my ears usually sound bland because they are missing the unique delivery that you get with dylan's voice. the other point about dylan is that he polarises opinion. people tend to either love him or hate him. but i think that is a good thing, people who polarise opinion tend to be a bit left field rather than middle of the road cooners such as cliff richard. zeppelin are another band who have this polarising affect. |
| gem27 14.10.2005 16:35 |
my gran sounds better coughing up her guts every morning than crappy old Dylan trying to sing. most people only say they like him coz he was "cool" to like but actually ive heard better noises when my cat gave birth |
| gem27 14.10.2005 16:42 |
youre the one who cant hear properly are you out of Hanson or what! get your hair cut then you hear what we hear muppet man |
| Serry... 28.10.2005 13:16 |
Sorry for replying in old thread, but I didn't want to start a new one for this: Russian edition of RS, November issue, contains review of ROTC - not very good, rating is: 3 of 5, but I was laughing like a madman when I've read the following "Paul's voice sounds like Freddie's on Bohemian Rhapsody"...... These 'music journalists' can't make a damned homework and check WHO sings Bo Rhap on the current tour! Paul sings 6 lines, Freddie - 42... OMG... Sometimes I understand why Brian hates these fools... |
| deleted user 28.10.2005 14:35 |
btw WWRY is number 330 god this mag is screwed up |
| **Queen_of_Ramms+ein** 28.10.2005 15:08 |
you know.....some people don´t like music... or maybe they are deaf !! |