QueenZone discussion #633028

mike hunt wrote: i agree, since freddie's death brian may has gone downhill. i also find that he's a jealous SOB.

mike hunt wrote: take it easy fenderick, don't have heart failure. It's just something i'v noticed over the last couple of years, i'm still a big brian fan, but if you don't look at things with rose colored glasses you'll notice brian has fell pretty far since november 1991.

mike hunt wrote: I see brian and even my beloved freddie as spoiled rich brats, people who have so many problems, too bad the press gives you a hard time, but i thought that was your choice to be in that business. Why don't i try walking in brians shoes? someone has the nerve to say that. Let brian walk in my shoes, let him get a dose of reality, to work and if you get laid off your on the street. Does poor little brian need to worry about such things. forget it, i can't talk to a bunch of ass kisser's.

Adam Baboolal wrote:

mike hunt wrote: I see brian and even my beloved freddie as spoiled rich brats, people who have so many problems, too bad the press gives you a hard time, but i thought that was your choice to be in that business. Why don't i try walking in brians shoes? someone has the nerve to say that. Let brian walk in my shoes, let him get a dose of reality, to work and if you get laid off your on the street. Does poor little brian need to worry about such things. forget it, i can't talk to a bunch of ass kisser's.

And your point is..? You must envy Brian to talk about him in such a way. Weird... Peace, Adam.

STELIOS wrote: This is a very interesting subject, indeed. I have to make my point here or else I will be blown in peaces. Some of you say that what Brian has been through is common for a man of his age. True or almost true. On the other hand consider the fact, that he has always been a very sensitive person. Without that, some of his wonderful music wouldn’t have been around. I can’t imagine my military-trained father getting too-depressed cos his friend or even his parents died, but I can’t imagine him writing a song like Who Want to Live Forever or The Show Must Go On, either. No fucking way. And this has nothing to do with the music talent but with the depths one allows, being in touch with his feelings, his diversity and his most complex thoughts. Try to be more open and informed about issues like creativity and depression. Perhaps read the books “Touched By Fire”, or “The dynamics of Creativity”. You really have to be more thoughtful, in such issues, cos it seams that you can’t have the one without the other. Artistic creativity and extra-sensitivity or mood disorders come hand in hand I am afraid. On the other hand, as much as I love Freddie, I would say that he also suffered mentally in some degree. But he had a really interesting way to make his sorrow turned to charisma and to the contrast of it, witch was absolute joy and the fast/care –free living he adopted. I will always remember what I read once in an article about Freddie, saying that “The stage is the perfect home for the Outcast”. He had the balls, the brains, the nerve, and the talent to do it, but that doesn’t mean necessarily he was in peace inside… (Well, only a small amount of us are, I guess).

BHM 0271 wrote: Mike, dude, learn how to read. Apart from the obvious fact that you aren't here to do anything but post nonsense, you have to learn to argue. I wrote "Freddie wrote so little 'Rocks' style material..." Not "rock songs", but "Rocks style material." They went for major chord rockers that were newer. Yes, Princes of the Universe could have made the cut. So could Gimme the Prize from the same album, or Dead on Time or Sweet Lady or White Man. There was talk of a Queen dance album, think Brian would be better represented than Fred or John if that did happen? Learn little man. Brian wrote most of the better known rockers, Freddie stopped at Jazz except for POTU.

R.I.P.Queen wrote: But with Brian, I get the feeling that, rather than praising Freddie for what a great musician he was, he to be on the defensive.

mike hunt wrote: oh please, brian is a very good guitar player but "page" or "beck" would have made queen a supergroup.

myself, kingmercury, scott mercury, and tiff are a dangerous team.

Lester, you know what i think of you, i think your a 23 year old brat who thinks he knows alot but doesn't know shit. I find it hard to believe that a 23 year old BOY knows as much about queen as a 34 year old MAN like myself, i was actually alive when queen were in their heyday.

mike hunt wrote: zep, the who, sabbath all did this guitar rock, in turn "leroy brown" "lap of the gods" a style that has never been heard. It's called originality my friend.

mike hunt wrote: BHM, your now officially part of the queenzone loser club, lester, fenderick, Sir, alex and now BHM. LESTER old pal ol mine, i'v been waiting for you. Lester, you know what i think of you, i think your a 23 year old brat who thinks he knows alot but doesn't know shit. I find it hard to believe that a 23 year old BOY knows as much about queen as a 34 year old MAN like myself, i was actually alive when queen were in their heyday. I promise This will be one of my last postings. I need to be right? MR. Lester that has nothing to do with it, people like "little beeny" and others are telling younger queen fans lies saying they were equal in the beginning, ect, obviously is not true, freddie was the one with all the creative ideas, the others just followed. now is that opinion or fact? look it up. this has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with freddie and queen and the younger queen fans like "boy of destiny." Freddie doesn't have to be your favorite member, but they need too know who was the true force in queen, who brought all these original ideas to this band called smile, i promise you it wasn't john deacon. I also think people like "sir" and "fenderick" are also the problem, their fav member happens to be brian and there's nothing wrong with that, but they also seem too have a vendetta against freddie (especially fenderick), it could be their envious because their fav member doesn't get enough respect. when they start to twist the truth around the younger fans start to believe these internet freaks. TOO ALL THE YOUNGER QUEEN FANS, STOP READING THESE POSTS and do a little research to find the truth, and for people who's fav member is other than freddie the truth might hurt. For all the brian bashing i['v been doing i'll like to say that Brian is truly one of my musical hero's he's no freddie, but still pretty brilliant, you suckers fall right into my trap. you call me stupid? No brian isn't going crazy, but i can't say the same for you people.

mike hunt wrote: and for the record what i do for a living in this great city is a pretty fucking tough job

mike hunt wrote: TOO ALL THE YOUNGER QUEEN FANS, STOP READING THESE POSTS and do a little research to find the truth

mike hunt wrote: mr. sir, yes queen were a supergroup. what's your point?

and no brian is no jimi h. please even brian would say that. what jimi did by the age of 27 brian couldn't dream of doing in a 100 years. again your trying to change history, brian didn't even get started until he was in his mid twenties, meanwhile jimi was already a superstar by that age. YOUR AGE IS SHOWING MY FRIEND. hendrix is rated number 1 from just about every guitar player, and every list i'v ever seen. Brian is rated usually anywhere from 10 to 25th at best. hendrix, clapton, beck, among others, than you should mention brian.

a computer geek like yourself could never understand that.

Let me challenge you. What is more original from a rock band? typical rock songs like "tie your mother down" "keep yourself alive" "son and daughter" or freddie songs like "bo rap" somebody to love" "killer queen" "march of the black queen"

mike hunt wrote: just wanted to comment one more time on Mr. Sir's words before i officially retire from queenzone. Ok, i'll admit most of what i said was to piss you and the other's off

I can't argue about brian's originality or songwriting ability. I personally would put him above majority of guitar players in rock history, outside of "hendrix" and "clapton." I think he's light years ahead of "slash" and also is slightly better than "page." Mr. May was obviously very important to the queen sound, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their ears checked. Most of what i'v been saying i still believe, fred was the most original songwriter in queen, he brought new and exciting ideas to "may" and "talyor" who basically just followed freds lead. A better lrycist? I personally think both are brilliant in that category, but i agree with you, brian might have the slight edge on that one. In the end the "QUEEN" SOUND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR FREDDIE AND BRIANS BRILLIANCE

mike hunt wrote: I see brian and even my beloved freddie as spoiled rich brats, people who have so many problems, too bad the press gives you a hard time, but i thought that was your choice to be in that business. Why don't i try walking in brians shoes? someone has the nerve to say that. Let brian walk in my shoes, let him get a dose of reality, to work and if you get laid off your on the street. Does poor little brian need to worry about such things. forget it, i can't talk to a bunch of ass kisser's.