QueenZone discussion #629773

AlexRocks wrote: WHERE once have you seen an advertisement for "Return Of The Champions" in the U.S. of A.??!!! So how can you say it has been all over the place??!!!

ok.computer wrote: As a resident of what the Amerikans like to call the "Olde World", (oh yes, I still eat French, rather than Freedom Fries), I thought I would peruse what the Amerikans quaintly call their Billboard Chart.... What hope has Queen, in a country where an artist called Damian "Jr Gong" Marley is on chart? Who is "Young Jeezy"? And what sort of country allows Mariah Carey to be 24 weeks on chart? I do hold out hope for the Un-united States - I see Gorillaz....I see Coldplay...I see Paul McCartney....I see Bonnie Riatt....I see Counting Crows. Alas, a country who allows tosh like white-boy poodle-haired, rockabilly trash like "Have a Nice Day" to debut at No 2 deserves to have its soft underbelly of social injustice well and truly exposed, indeed ripped open, with hurricane force. Oh, and for the record....I ain't even a Muslim. Cheers Paul PS Anyone wishing to argue with the above sentiments is under freedom of speech freely entitled to respond. Just watch you don't fall foul of the PATRIOT act when you do so. PPS You allowed him to be voted in how many times....??????

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: sales charts do matter. because sales are the bottom line. if they don't sell enough, then record companies drop them - and this equals NO MORE CDs being released. and that equals NO NEW QUEEN stuff record companies will always have the rights over the back catalogue...but for a band to keep going they need a current money-making contract for new material

Fedepetti wrote: ROTC barely got a second week in the US chart. The boys had luck this time, Return Of The Champions spent another week on the US Billboard 200 chart in the last position: TW Position/LW Position/Wks on chart/Artist/Album/This Week/%Chg/Last Week/Total 200 84 2 Queen & Paul Rodgers, Return of the Champions 4,840 -59 11,340 16,206 So far we got: Sep 05-11: 26 copies (street violations) Sep 12-18: Week 1: #84 (11,340) Sep 19-25: Week 2: #200 (4,840)

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Good. Freddie would love to see it fail

Sarah *Loves Freddie* Forever wrote:

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Good. Freddie would love to see it fail

Two words - Fuck Off

Sarah *Loves Freddie* Forever wrote: Like I'd bother my arse taking advice from you. You are not respected or liked on this board. Why don't you stop living in your little fantasy world and face facts? You obviously don't know what Freddie was like, so why don't you put a sock in it.

Barry © wrote: "2 words to you....."suck it" She's only 13 you nonce.

Sarah *Loves Freddie* Forever wrote: I'll say what I wish. I'm not two years old you know. And before you think again about saying I am not a Queen fan or I don't give a toss about Freddie, take a look at my username eh? I follow what's going on with the tour and that, but I wouldn't even be a Queen fan in the first place if it weren't for Freddie, Brian, Roger and John in the very beginning. So don't dare tell me I don't care, or I'm not a real fan. That's all I ask.

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

Sarah *Loves Freddie* Forever wrote: Like I'd bother my arse taking advice from you. You are not respected or liked on this board. Why don't you stop living in your little fantasy world and face facts? You obviously don't know what Freddie was like, so why don't you put a sock in it.

I still get plenty of replies to my topics/posts darling many more than you will ever get I am seen as the VOICE of this forum and people generally pay homeage and give FULL RESPECT to my views. When I say Queen + PR is wrong people agree it's as simple as that. I suggest you follow the Poodle as well. You will learn a lot. I have have had 100's of e-mails from people like EnglishYob, Linda Of The Valley praising me with the words of wisdom and common sense that I give

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: If your a real fan you must not support this tour. Queen are gone. Are no more. Can't you see Brian and Roger are just cashing in on the Queen name ?

ok.computer wrote: As a resident of what the Amerikans like to call the "Olde World", (oh yes, I still eat French, rather than Freedom Fries), I thought I would peruse what the Amerikans quaintly call their Billboard Chart....
What hope has Queen, in a country where an artist called Damian "Jr Gong" Marley is on chart? Who is "Young Jeezy"? And what sort of country allows Mariah Carey to be 24 weeks on chart?
I do hold out hope for the Un-united States - I see Gorillaz....I see Coldplay...I see Paul McCartney....I see Bonnie Riatt....I see Counting Crows.
Alas, a country who allows tosh like white-boy poodle-haired, rockabilly trash like "Have a Nice Day" to debut at No 2 deserves to have its soft underbelly of social injustice well and truly exposed, indeed ripped open, with hurricane force.
Oh, and for the record....I ain't even a Muslim.
Cheers
Paul
PS Anyone wishing to argue with the above sentiments is under freedom of speech freely entitled to respond. Just watch you don't fall foul of the PATRIOT act when you do so.
Guys, why don't you stop blaming others and start considering that maybe this album is not a big success??
Just my 2 sense.... TG I'm granted freedom of speech :-)

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:
I still get plenty of replies to my topics/posts darling many more than you will ever get I am seen as the VOICE of this forum and people generally pay homeage and give FULL RESPECT to my views.
Wouldn't totally agree on respect, but BPP's right on one thing. He's getting tons of replies to his posts. Those who criticize him so much should think again. You just keep replying to him and doing exactly what he wants you to do! Don't you know indiference is the best weapon?

<font color=red>BEE<font color=gold>ny wrote: what do you want if they like Britney Spears????!!!!

flash00. wrote: i must say i thought the live album would of sold a lot more copies in the uk, considering there uk tour was successfull.. im not saying i agree or dissagree with the collaboration, all those tickets sold in the uk and scrapes in at 12 in the charts. i bet brian and roger thought this was gonna be a big seller for them, strange how brian says theres more freddie tracks to come.. imo i think the freddie tracks will end up on a new queen/rogers studio album just to sell more copies. god i miss freddie:(

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

flash00. wrote: i must say i thought the live album would of sold a lot more copies in the uk, considering there uk tour was successfull.. im not saying i agree or dissagree with the collaboration, all those tickets sold in the uk and scrapes in at 12 in the charts. i bet brian and roger thought this was gonna be a big seller for them, strange how brian says theres more freddie tracks to come.. imo i think the freddie tracks will end up on a new queen/rogers studio album just to sell more copies. god i miss freddie:(

link ROTC now down from 12 to No 26 in the UK album charts. 2 words "IT BOMBED". and so it should.

Fedepetti wrote: ROTC barely got a second week in the US chart. The boys had luck this time, Return Of The Champions spent another week on the US Billboard 200 chart in the last position: TW Position/LW Position/Wks on chart/Artist/Album/This Week/%Chg/Last Week/Total 200 84 2 Queen & Paul Rodgers, Return of the Champions 4,840 -59 11,340 16,206 So far we got: Sep 05-11: 26 copies (street violations) Sep 12-18: Week 1: #84 (11,340) Sep 19-25: Week 2: #200 (4,840)

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

Sarah *Loves Freddie* Forever wrote: I'll say what I wish. I'm not two years old you know. And before you think again about saying I am not a Queen fan or I don't give a toss about Freddie, take a look at my username eh? I follow what's going on with the tour and that, but I wouldn't even be a Queen fan in the first place if it weren't for Freddie, Brian, Roger and John in the very beginning. So don't dare tell me I don't care, or I'm not a real fan. That's all I ask.

If your a real fan you must not support this tour. Queen are gone. Are no more. Can't you see Brian and Roger are just cashing in on the Queen name ?

boy of destiny wrote: Whether anyone agrees with BPP or not, the album isn't selling well and that is important. Here in Canada, I had to go to 4 stores to even find it and then it was $30 bucks! In the record industry it's all about what you've done lately and if Queen doesn't sell today, it's going to be harder to get new releases out there tomorrow. I had to order the last Chris Robinson cd and looks like I'll have to do the same with the new Blues Traveler. Both of those artists have a lot more to offer than the current shit on the charts. p.s. I'm a huge Queen and BM, but IMO ROTC is a disappointment. There's absolutely nothing on it that really surprised or impressed me.

Barry © wrote: 99% of the bickering on this noticeboard would dissappear if that numpty left of his own accord which he will never do. I prefer the banned scenerio where he slips up and out the door for him. If he was genuine and posted properly instead of deliberately shit-stirring it wouldn't bother me he was around. This guy is posting here with the sole intention of causing uproar. The board is going downhill through wankers like him.

NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Live albums rarely have much effect on a performer's career. The only exceptions are Peter Frampton, Bruce Springsteen and Garth Brooks whose live albums are the best selling live albums ever. Garth Brooks' Double Live sold more copies than either Frampton Comes Alive or Springsteen's Live 1975 to 1985. Some live albums did well in recent years like The Eagles' Hell Freezes Over(#1 in 1994 and sold millions), Pink Floyd's PULSE(#1 in 1995 and sold close to three million in the US), Fleetwood Mac's The Dance(#1 in 1997 and sold huge), Black Sabbath's Reunion (live with Ozzy from 1997) was a huge Platinum seller. Metallica's Live S&M hit #2 and sold millions. Led Zeppelin's How The West Was Won(#1 in 2003 and Platinum). Queen's best selling live effort in the US is Live Killers.

Tero wrote:

NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Live albums rarely have much effect on a performer's career. The only exceptions are Peter Frampton, Bruce Springsteen and Garth Brooks whose live albums are the best selling live albums ever. Garth Brooks' Double Live sold more copies than either Frampton Comes Alive or Springsteen's Live 1975 to 1985. Some live albums did well in recent years like The Eagles' Hell Freezes Over(#1 in 1994 and sold millions), Pink Floyd's PULSE(#1 in 1995 and sold close to three million in the US), Fleetwood Mac's The Dance(#1 in 1997 and sold huge), Black Sabbath's Reunion (live with Ozzy from 1997) was a huge Platinum seller. Metallica's Live S&M hit #2 and sold millions. Led Zeppelin's How The West Was Won(#1 in 2003 and Platinum). Queen's best selling live effort in the US is Live Killers.

So... What ARE you saying with this post? I can't really be sure whether you don't care about the sales, or if you are disappointed with them. :/ First you tell us how live albums are rarely succeful, and then list a dozen albums which have sold 50 times better than the QPR effort...

Fairy wrote:

Barry © wrote: 99% of the bickering on this noticeboard would dissappear if that numpty left of his own accord which he will never do. I prefer the banned scenerio where he slips up and out the door for him. If he was genuine and posted properly instead of deliberately shit-stirring it wouldn't bother me he was around. This guy is posting here with the sole intention of causing uproar. The board is going downhill through wankers like him.

Yes, but it wouldn't if people would just let certain types of posts slip away by not replying. Sometimes I feel that many who criticize guys like BPP actually have fun "fighting" with him. I'm not necessarily referring to you. Fairy

boy of destiny wrote: Notwmeddle...I'm not saying an album has to sell millions of copies to be a great album. Actually quite the opposite. Most of the stuff I buy isn't likely to be carried by Walmart or even most of the usual record chains. I've never really been a mainstream guy, but unfortunately in the shitty state of the record industry if you don't chart you get dropped. Both of the artists I mention are with small labels now with poor distribution. Even though I don't think ROTC is all that great, I really want Queen + PR tour in Canada and it's not going to happen if you can't find the cd anywhere because the record co. didn't think it would sell enough to bother to widely distribute it.

ok.computer wrote: As a resident of what the Amerikans like to call the "Olde World", (oh yes, I still eat French, rather than Freedom Fries), I thought I would peruse what the Amerikans quaintly call their Billboard Chart.... What hope has Queen, in a country where an artist called Damian "Jr Gong" Marley is on chart? Who is "Young Jeezy"? And what sort of country allows Mariah Carey to be 24 weeks on chart? I do hold out hope for the Un-united States - I see Gorillaz....I see Coldplay...I see Paul McCartney....I see Bonnie Riatt....I see Counting Crows. Alas, a country who allows tosh like white-boy poodle-haired, rockabilly trash like "Have a Nice Day" to debut at No 2 deserves to have its soft underbelly of social injustice well and truly exposed, indeed ripped open, with hurricane force. Oh, and for the record....I ain't even a Muslim. Cheers Paul PS Anyone wishing to argue with the above sentiments is under freedom of speech freely entitled to respond. Just watch you don't fall foul of the PATRIOT act when you do so. PPS You allowed him to be voted in how many times....??????

flash00. wrote: i agree with you totaly fairy :))))) oh dear where's my little wooden cart lol

Zebonka12 wrote: Basically - I really think that they should just drop the 'guest singer' gag. I'm going to get shot for saying this, but I really think Brian and Roger are good enough. Paul Rogers is a fine singer, but what is he - backup singer or frontman? And if he's backup, why is he center stage? If he's frontman, why does he hide in the wings on certain songs? It just doesn't work well enough to me.

ok.computer wrote: Alas, a country who allows tosh like white-boy poodle-haired, rockabilly trash like "Have a Nice Day" to debut at No 2 deserves to have its soft underbelly of social injustice well and truly exposed, indeed ripped open, with hurricane force.

Yes - Drama