| ok.computer 28.09.2005 14:31 |
....and not for a nice chat and a cuppa tea either..... Tuesday 27 Sept Brian's soapbox item and attached link to so-called press piece.... Nice, KingMercury.... by the way are you in public relations? Or just Argentina? Cheers Paul |
| deleted user 28.09.2005 15:04 |
there was a moment I thought it was BPP... but than aparently not.... |
| Ms. Bea Haven 28.09.2005 15:38 |
Must have been a slow news day at the NY Times. |
| i'm going slight mad... 28.09.2005 15:51 |
lol, i think its's great that the newspaper had to scrounge for qoutes from a queen notice board! brilliant |
| iron eagle 28.09.2005 15:54 |
kingmercury is not the only zoner quoted btw mr nester is a zoner too |
| Fenderek 28.09.2005 16:29 |
Ha, ha- I love Nester's reply, brilliant! Have you guys seen Brian's reaction? LOVE IT!!! |
| KingMercury 28.09.2005 20:15 |
I cant believe this is happening and i cant believe brian heard what i've said well, here's my explanation queen is my life i listen to queen since 14 years ago and i'm sure i will listen it for the rest of my life i like the new live album (and ì posted about it some days ago), and im with brian and roger: i like the new tour and i want they to come to argentina, because i never saw them live when i said "queen died in 1991", i mean that since 1991 they arent together anymore: freddie died (sadly) and john had retired queen is still alive when i hear all their cds, when i see all the live concerts, and it always be alive in me i apreciate that brian and roger are keeping the magic and the legacy of queen alive and that makes new generations listen to queen freddie and brian are my idols in fact, i started to sing because of freedie, and i started to take guitar lessons because of bri, and i dont want to be misunderstood brian said that all the things i said made a terrible damage to him and roger, ohh my god, that makes a hole in my soul for me, they are music gods, and the last thing i want is to make hurt to they welll, that's what i have to say for today bye ppl |
| Megamike The GREAT 28.09.2005 21:48 |
I dunno man, I just wouldn't be asking him to personalize an autograph for you anytime soon... and this comment comming from a guy (Me) that sent Brian May a nasty email about the quote about not being a friend of his for asking for autographs and waiting to have a picture taken, so I cancelled my fan club membership, sold my entire collection and wrote mr. May a fairly rude email.. of course it was NEVER printed for the public so I guess I am safe.. lol |
| Koolkikiland 28.09.2005 22:47 |
KingMercury wrote: i dont want to be misunderstood brian said that all the things i said made a terrible damage to him and roger, ohh my god, that makes a hole in my soul for meRelax. . . the idea that your little comment, yes. . even though it ended up in the friggin' New York Times, is not going to cause DAMAGE to one of the most successful groups ever in history or even to their upcoming tour of the States. Brian should know better than anybody not to believe every out-of-context quote he reads in the papers. |
| deleted user 29.09.2005 05:40 |
KingMercury wrote: I cant believe this is happening and i cant believe brian heard what i've said well, here's my explanation queen is my life i listen to queen since 14 years ago and i'm sure i will listen it for the rest of my life i like the new live album (and ì posted about it some days ago), and im with brian and roger: i like the new tour and i want they to come to argentina, because i never saw them live when i said "queen died in 1991", i mean that since 1991 they arent together anymore: freddie died (sadly) and john had retired queen is still alive when i hear all their cds, when i see all the live concerts, and it always be alive in me i apreciate that brian and roger are keeping the magic and the legacy of queen alive and that makes new generations listen to queen freddie and brian are my idols in fact, i started to sing because of freedie, and i started to take guitar lessons because of bri, and i dont want to be misunderstood brian said that all the things i said made a terrible damage to him and roger, ohh my god, that makes a hole in my soul for me, they are music gods, and the last thing i want is to make hurt to they welll, that's what i have to say for today bye pplwhy don't you explain that to brian, I am sure he would more believe you than these scumback of journalists.... maybe make a copy of you entry at queenzone to him. + apologize... I wrote a few times to brian and aldought it wasn't all published on the site.... he always wrote be a nice, friendly & polite letter back, I did apologize once few years ago and did explanation for a letter who was writen with a bit dificulties, that could have been wrongly interpretate & he did send me a nice letter that my apologize wher taken and that he apresiated the fact that I apologized.... and why not making a protest action to that scumback paper....!!!! anyway aparently they don't have anything else to do than copying stuf of the net... does not look very professional to me.... Looks more like you don't need and degree in journalistics, but just researching the net.... |
| Sharron .G 29.09.2005 07:34 |
You know what I find extra dumb about all this? Why does Brian spend any of his free time worrying or responding to this dumb shit? If Brian died in 1991, and Freddie, Roger & John (I presume John would still be touring if Freddie were here...I'm 90% sure) were touring with Eric Clapton filling in for Brian. The Queen + Eric Clapton tour. 2 facts would come of this. 1) As long as Freddie was still in the band, you would never have such strong backlash of public opinion as you have with tour's name. Honest to god....and really think about this.... as far as 95% of the listening & viewing public is concerned, if they saw/heard Freddie.... THEN IT WOULD BE GENERALLY ACCEPTED BY ALL...WITHOUT QUESTION...THAT IT WAS QUEEN. As long as Freddie is in the picture, I feel most would not contest the name Queen being used. As you all know the current situation...no Freddie, Queen name still in use...some fans don't care....some fans majorly pissed. 2nd) Do any of you think Freddie would be logging on to his website to respond to someone on "Queen chat" to defend his honor. Hell no! He would spend no time giving a shit about whiners or the press. Thats one thing I haven't always liked about Roger or Brian.... its like their looking for a argument, or a debate. Are they running for prime minister?? Freddie kept the attention where it belonged...on stage. |
| tupincs 29.09.2005 09:11 |
<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote: why don't you explain that to brian, I am sure he would more believe you than these scumback of journalists.... maybe make a copy of you entry at queenzone to him. + apologize..Why should he apologize for his opinion? Brian should make rather an apology. This IS insulting when your star says about you: "With fans like this, who needs enemies". I know that Brian is over-sensible, and can't stand if someone doesn't think the way he does (only-child syndrome), but this is going too far. The clever one of Queen should use his brain before he makes such insulting and actually non-sense statements. But I want to stress that it was just my opinion, and I have a right to have one. Even if others don't like it. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 29.09.2005 10:48 |
Barry © wrote: I read that, I am very suprised BPP was not quoted.I guess the New York Times doesn't quote raving maniacs unless they're talking about politics. Mike Preston wrote: I dunno man, I just wouldn't be asking him to personalize an autograph for you anytime soon... and this comment comming from a guy (Me) that sent Brian May a nasty email about the quote about not being a friend of his for asking for autographs and waiting to have a picture taken, so I cancelled my fan club membership, sold my entire collection and wrote mr. May a fairly rude email.. of course it was NEVER printed for the public so I guess I am safe.. lolWow - you really sold your whole collection over THAT? That's hardcore. I assume since you're still here and talking about Queen that you got over it? Sharron .G wrote: If Brian died in 1991, and Freddie, Roger & John (I presume John would still be touring if Freddie were here...I'm 90% sure) were touring with Eric Clapton filling in for Brian.This is the unspoken truth of people like the poodle and his bitch. There are two kinds of people here - fans of the band and their work, in whatever permutation, and Freddie groupies. I have no doubt that if Brian, Roger or John had died in 1991 instead of Freddie, the remaining members would have waited a respectful couple of years and then hired a replacement and went right back to work as "Queen". Which, I'm sure, would have been fine with the necrophiliac members of the Cult of Fred because that's all they care about. Move on, people. He's dead. |
| Megamike The GREAT 29.09.2005 11:21 |
Not really, I still enjoy Queens music, but I am no longer the hardcore fan I used to be, Brian's little comment really pissed me off to the point where it was no longer any fun for me to spend my hard earned money on someone that feels that way about fans, sure I know he may have been talking about certain fans, but after 25 years of using rent money to buy the latest release, or food money to get a rare item, I just say screw it, they are just items, items that I no longer care about. and just to let you know, I ALMOST gave the collection away, I feel bad because I had promised it to Chris here in Michigan, but my best friends daughter whom I got interested into Queen offered me $200.00 for the whole lot, including boots, official stuff and anything else, I just couldn't pass, I needed the money. and to this day I have no regrets. again, I enjoy their music, but I enjoy Hayseed Dixie a lot more, and they really appreciate their fans a lot more. PLUS, you can record their concerts, the band ENCOURAGE it. which just proves, Queen ARE in it for just the money, because if they weren't they would approve of the bootleg recordings, and not do a strip search before every concert.Mike Preston wrote: I dunno man, I just wouldn't be asking him to personalize an autograph for you anytime soon... and this comment comming from a guy (Me) that sent Brian May a nasty email about the quote about not being a friend of his for asking for autographs and waiting to have a picture taken, so I cancelled my fan club membership, sold my entire collection and wrote mr. May a fairly rude email.. of course it was NEVER printed for the public so I guess I am safe.. lolWow - you really sold your whole collection over THAT? That's hardcore. I assume since you're still here and talking about Queen that you got over it? |
| Ms. Bea Haven 29.09.2005 11:47 |
Ray said: "I have no doubt that if Brian, Roger or John had died in 1991 instead of Freddie, the remaining members would have waited a respectful couple of years and then hired a replacement and went right back to work as "Queen". I have to disagree. This may be under the wrong topic to express my opinion on this, but since it went off track anyway.... For the ump-teenth time - nobody is being 'replaced.' If Brian, Roger and Paul would write NEW material and then put it out under the 'Queen' name - that is the ONLY time that I will acknowledge or (gasp) unwillingly accept that Freddie was replaced! But - the material isn't new and they aren't billing themselves as just Queen, so Paul is not a replacement. Should Bri, Rog & Paul do something new - I seriously do not believe that they will continue to call themselves Queen - and I don't think they should. Also...I'll catch some flack for this but I don't care - if it were Roger or John who passed away in 1991 - maybe they would be replaced and continue under the Queen name. But, like Freddie - I don't think Brian can be replaced either - not even by Clapton, or Jeff Beck, or Jimmy Page... I'll say this - if Brian weren't involved in this 2005 resurrection of Queen - I wouldn't be going to the Meadowlands in a couple of weeks. Face it - there's no substitute for Brian May. Hear me out folks - Paul wouldn't have been my choice for this venture, but then again, I don't know who would be suitable, either - frankly, I never really gave it any thought. Without Freddie, I never thought I'd see another Queen concert ever. (I'm just glad that they are doing it.) But Queen without Brian - just forget it altogether - his sound can be duplicated to a certain extent - but there's much, much more to it...any of you guitarists out there (like me) get my drift? Skill, knowledge, sure - you need that...but then there's the orchestration, interpretation, and most important - the passion that Brian expresses - that CAN'T be replicated - I don't care how well one plays - Brian weaves his...personality(?) into his playing - I don't know how to describe it otherwise. To put it simply, Paul doesn't "try" to be like Freddie. Now, anyone sitting in for Brian, to capture that Queen sound that we've all grown to know and love - he/she'd (girls can rock, too!) would have to try as best to be a carbon copy of Brian. I'm sorry kids - as much as so many of you feel Queen without Freddie isn't possible - for me, Queen without Brian is just totally unacceptable. |
| Koolkikiland 29.09.2005 12:17 |
Miss Bea Haven wrote: I'm sorry kids - as much as so many of you feel Queen without Freddie isn't possible - for me, Queen without Brian is just totally unacceptable.Yeah. . . no argument from me on that point. Sharron .G wrote: Why does Brian spend any of his free time worrying or responding to this dumb shit?That's what so weird about this. . . The neurotic hypersensitivity that some little Argentinian guy's remark on a chat forum is cause damage. Come on! I've heard things like that about people who become incredibly famous and wealthy . . . they can kind start to lose perspective on things. . . |
| deleted user 29.09.2005 12:54 |
tupincs wrote:It's also insulting towards him to tell that Queen died back in 91, Freddie did, and Freddie is not Queen, but made part of Queen... It's like telling that because Freddie died back in 91 that he's no use anymore... How would you feel if you have worked that long and that hard to have create something and than just been traited like his no-one anymore... childsyndrome, many people here do have that here to (including me) as we all are arguing about the same topic for ages and we keep replying and replying and replying....<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote: why don't you explain that to brian, I am sure he would more believe you than these scumback of journalists.... maybe make a copy of you entry at queenzone to him. + apologize..Why should he apologize for his opinion? Brian should make rather an apology. This IS insulting when your star says about you: "With fans like this, who needs enemies". I know that Brian is over-sensible, and can't stand if someone doesn't think the way he does (only-child syndrome), but this is going too far. The clever one of Queen should use his brain before he makes such insulting and actually non-sense statements. But I want to stress that it was just my opinion, and I have a right to have one. Even if others don't like it. do you think it's right to say that it wouldn't be desant to replace freddie and for queen going on under the name if because of that matter.... but it's not wrong if you would replace Brian or Roger... I am sorry to tell this but if it's unrespectfull like some ppl say here to continue Queen because freddie died than, I think it would be as unrespectfull to continue Queen without Brian or Roger... |
| KingMercury 29.09.2005 13:09 |
well, i've to say that yesterday, i wrote an email to brian and today he reply he said to me that he understand what i've tried to say and he understand the behaviour of the journalist (taking my quote out of context) well, for me it's an honor to receive a brian's mail, and to know that one of my idols is not angry with me he will publish my letter on brianmay.com i cant believe it he is a music god |
| Ms. Bea Haven 29.09.2005 13:12 |
Sharron .G wrote: Why does Brian spend any of his free time worrying or responding to this dumb shit? Well, feedback means a lot. And after all these years, taking the Queen 'animal' out on the road with only half of its original lineup - I can understand how Brian could be *very* insecure about this...this tour could have completely bombed/been a total disaster. Luckily, the boys are known for their showmanship, their professionalism, and their reputation for putting out some of the best music of the 20th (and 21st) century(ies). This was a BIG gamble for them - luckily they hit the jackpot! |
| doremi 29.09.2005 13:36 |
I posted that NY Times article Sunday and what's wierd, is I took the majority of that article, especialyy the first huge paragraphs about Queen+Paul Rodgers...as positive, and that it was pointing out, when a rock band loses a member to death, and gets a new member, that in many instances,...it works out and is a GOOD!!!! thing. I perceived the part with KingMercury's quote as a brief afterthought, that just showed objectivity and 2 sides to every story and that a SMALL number of fans may not agree. Monday, I saw Brian post the article and his livid comments and I thought he completely took it out of context and made a small comment that KingMercury made... ...that was not that bad at all and just an honest opinion... ....and obviously did not reflect the like 99% of fans on Queenzone who are all for the tour and Paul Rodgers, and it seems so in the NY Times article too, which I thought was supportive in its first few paragraphs, and I thought he brought very angry/livid out of proportion reaction to something that I din't take that way at all. I know every person can read an article and perceive what it's meaning to say differently, but I thought the point of the article is that... ...sometimes a ''replacing'' a band's deceased member works... ...sometimes it does not.... ..but in the case of Queen+Paul Rodgers..it DOES work...stating that the tour has been ''selling out arenas across Europe''. link link |
| Krizzy 29.09.2005 13:39 |
TO Kingmercury: I wrote myself to Brian on your behalf and as a fan, IMO he had absolutely no right to chew you out personal on this. You have absolutely every right to express your opinion and I think Brian May has seem to forgotten that this noticeboard is all about FREE SPEECH!!! As a writer myself I was apalled that he took aim at you for being quoted which is something you had no idea would be done. I am also a defender of FREE SPEECH and I may not agree with your opinion KingMercury but I will defend your right to express it. Best Regards, Krizzy :o) |
| ok.computer 29.09.2005 15:05 |
Krizzy wrote: TO Kingmercury: I wrote myself to Brian on your behalf and as a fan, IMO he had absolutely no right to chew you out personal on this. You have absolutely every right to express your opinion and I think Brian May has seem to forgotten that this noticeboard is all about FREE SPEECH!!! [SNIP] Best Regards, Krizzy :o)Yes Krizzy that's right. Brian May was utilising his right to "express his opinion". I think they call it "free speech".... Yours, in equality Paul |
| KingMercury 29.09.2005 15:08 |
thanks krizzy for your support all this thing is very satrange for me just imagine...you post an opinion on a queenforum, a journalist take out of context your quote and publich it on the ny times, then one of your idols, brian may, read that and get angry, and because of that, you send an email to him explaining what really happened and theeeen, he reply, sayin'to you that he apologizes if what he said made to much pain on you this is incredible but brian knows how the daily papers works, and that made he understand me he showed me how big and what kind of person he is he's brillant no more words |
| zaiga 30.09.2005 05:01 |
The bravest thing a man can do is admitting he was wrong... so kudos to Bri! PROBLEM SOLVED! :) |
| tupincs 30.09.2005 05:41 |
[QUOTEIt's also insulting towards him to tell that Queen died back in 91, Freddie did, and Freddie is not Queen, but made part of Queen... It's like telling that because Freddie died back in 91 that he's no use anymore... How would you feel if you have worked that long and that hard to have create something and than just been traited like his no-one anymore... childsyndrome, many people here do have that here to (including me) as we all are arguing about the same topic for ages and we keep replying and replying and replying....
do you think it's right to say that it wouldn't be desant to replace freddie and for queen going on under the name if because of that matter.... but it's not wrong if you would replace Brian or Roger... I am sorry to tell this but if it's unrespectfull like some ppl say here to continue Queen because freddie died than, I think it would be as unrespectfull to continue Queen without Brian or Roger...
I didn't say that KingMercury was right. I just wrote that he has the right to express his thoughts, even if he is totally wrong. Than you can tell him you don't think so. Or you can even ignore his comments. It's the sense of any healthy discussions. At the end it was good that KM sent a letter to Brian and he (I mean BM) posted it on his website telling the world he made a mistake. But I still can't understand how he "fell in the trap" of manipulating journalism. |
| deleted user 30.09.2005 10:30 |
It is easy to fall in the traps of a journalist.... sure now this days....
I didn't said that for you about the Brian part if he would have died.... I said it in responce of one of the messages about ... and some other did aswel while ago within another topic.... somebody told a few weeks ago it's not respectful to use the name queen because Freddie died... but it's alright if brian, roger or john would have died... This looks strange logic...
Sharron .G wrote: Why does Brian spend any of his free time worrying or responding to this dumb shit? If Brian died in 1991, and Freddie, Roger & John (I presume John would still be touring if Freddie were here...I'm 90% sure) were touring with Eric Clapton filling in for Brian. The Queen + Eric Clapton tour. As you all know the current situation...no Freddie, Queen name still in use...some fans don't care....some fans majorly pissed. |
| iron eagle 30.09.2005 15:09 |
so he takes a quote from the NB and actually interviews the other zoner gotta love the press! |
| Daniel Nester 01.10.2005 01:02 |
Hey, I still stand by the words I said in that story -- I wanna see them play! Curious to see how all this gets played out here in the QZ. In the end, the love you make is equal to, yadda yadda yadda. And no letter from Brian :(!!! |