| Nummer2 27.09.2005 05:27 |
Hi! (My first topic, by the way.) Underrated: JAZZ I always wondered why a lot of fans consider JAZZ one of the worst queen albums. Okay, it's a matter of style and taste, of course, but objectively there are lots of really good or at least intelligent songs. Some bad songs, too, that's right, but you can find such on every Queen album. It's not my absolute favourite album but one of the best. Maybe you should listen to these songs one more time: Don't stop me now (no discussion, we all agree it's one of Queen's finest moments) Fat bottomed Girls/Bicycle Race (esp. in combination lots of fun and never boring) In Only Seven Days (reminds me of ANATO) Mustapha (crazy at first "sight" but unique and extremely powerful) --- WE WILL ROCK YOU: This song is extremely simple but it has so much power. Can you sit still while listening? IMO a masterpiece, nothing similar heard before. --- THE FAIRY FELLERS MASTER STROKE It's THE early masterpiece. Lyrics and music perfectly matched, the tempo changes are clever, it arranged and mixed in a very detailed and beautiful way. Maybe it's the kind of senseless lyrics that kept it from being a hit. --- SAIL AWAY SWEET SISTER Wonderful combination of Brian's and Freddie's vocals, very melancholic but also dramatic with the climax at the end (where Freddie sings). ..................................... Overrated: THE MIRACLE Relatively mainstream, complex, not very surprising rock songs. Not too much of the typical 70's orchestral sound left, not as unique as they were back then. Even a few really boring songs on the album. --- 80's HARD ROCK SONGS I Want It All, Tear It Up, Put Out The Fire, Hammer To Fall, Was It All Worth It, Headlong, One Vision, Breakthru and likes. Too straight/simple for being something special. Easy to remember and to singalong, Freddie's vocals sometimes sound strained/forced (don't know the proper word), too heavy instrumentation in some parts. Not one song is bad, but could have sounded better in 70's Queen style. Please compare: One Vision - Tie Your Mother Down I Want It All - White Man Tear It Up - We Will Rock You Breakthru - Flick Of The Wrist Was It All Worth It - It's Late What do you think is over/underrated? Bye, Nummer2 |
| Serry... 27.09.2005 05:37 |
Underrated - Flash Gordon and The Works albums, John Deacon Overrated - Tie Your Mother Down song |
| Fenderek 27.09.2005 05:52 |
Overrated- Radio Ga-Ga, We Are The Champions, Under Pressure, I Want To Break Free, We Will Rock You, 80s albums (Works and AKOM especially), Freddie as the best vocalist ever, Wembley gig, Works and Magic Tours... Underrated- Death On Two Legs, Flick Of The Wrist, Great King Rat, Stone Cold Crazy, White Man and about 20 more great tracks from 70s, Freddie as a piano player, John Deacon, Milton Keynes gig, debut album, JAZZ definitelly... I'll think of some more... |
| forever 27.09.2005 07:12 |
Underrated: In The Lap Of The Gods(both), My Fairy King, Father To Son, The Millionaire Waltz and Scandal to name a few. |
| D@VID 27.09.2005 07:35 |
Over-rated All Gods People.....Hideous,too bombastic EVEN for Freddie Breakthru,Headlong,Ride The Wild Wind.....Queen should of done better with there later rock songs Too much reliance on synths on later albums(Was It All Worth It,Slightly Mad,All Gods People) Under-rated I Go Crazy.....Great Rocker Spread Your Wings.....Awesome song In Only Seven Days.....So simple yet so great |
| mike hunt 27.09.2005 08:22 |
fenderick strikes again, who say's freddie's the best vocalist of all time, a great one yes, but not of all time. Fenderick wake up my man. |
| Fenderek 27.09.2005 08:26 |
mike hunt wrote: fenderick strikes again, who say's freddie's the best vocalist of all time, a great one yes, but not of all time. Fenderick wake up my man.Mike Cunt- go play on a busy crossroads. You must be a real fan o'mine, you keep reading very carefully all my posts... many people on this site say that Freddie was the best vocalist ever. I don't and you don't but many people on this site DO. I think as a perfect vocalist he's overrated. He wasn't. He may have been the biggest showman AND a great vocalist, but... Man, do you actually understand English? Do you know what an "opinion" is? Can you live with the fact that someone has a different opinion to yours? And why white man are generally crap in basketball? And why am I replying to someone who can't even get my nick right and himself has a surname "Cunt". I did get your nick right, didn't I...? PS And don't hijack a perfectly nice thread with your pathetic problems, go get a life and stop reading my posts, that'll save you few minutes of you life... Do you really wanna waste it on reading posts of some "pathetic guy"? Are you that bored? Get a girlfriend... and ask someone what to do with her afterwards... |
| Rotwang 27.09.2005 08:57 |
Overrated - Now I'm Here. It's always the one I skip. |
| GreatKingSam 27.09.2005 10:16 |
Underrated - Roger's solo albums (especially Fun In Space and Happiness), Jazz (and More Of That Jazz as a song), Queen as a band that didn't just make catchy singles, Hot Space, the Barcelona album to name a few things, Jesus and Son & Daughter Overrated - The Miracle as an album, In Only Seven Days (I'm sorry, but I don't get the fuss?!), I'll come back with some more of these after I've had time to think (I think, as an overall band, rather than just a singles act, Queen are a very underrated band in general anyway). |
| its_a_hard_life 27.09.2005 10:26 |
Overrated Albums: The Works, A kind of magic, A night at the opera and Innuendo. Underrated albums: Jazz, Hot Space, Flash and Live Killers. |
| The Classic 27.09.2005 10:37 |
Overrated... The Miracle, Was It All Worth It, A Kind of Magic... Underrated... Dragon Attack, Invisible Man, Ride the Wild Wind, White Queen, Who Wants to Live Forever... |
| queen44 27.09.2005 11:27 |
so most of you are saying the popular song and albums are overrated and the albums and songs that werent aspopular were underrated |
| Fenderek 27.09.2005 11:37 |
queen44 wrote: so most of you are saying the popular song and albums are overrated and the albums and songs that werent aspopular were underratedIn a nutshell :P |
| Nummer2 27.09.2005 11:39 |
How could a song like BoRhap be underrated? Or Fun It overrated?? I think a lot of queen albums deserve a closer look. Then you will discover some "long forgotten" songs that never had been popular (maybe because they've never been a single) which are really nice. Same with albums. |
| Fenderek 27.09.2005 11:54 |
Nummer2 wrote: How could a song like BoRhap be underrated? Or Fun It overrated??Yep, that's beyond me :) |
| Rotwang 27.09.2005 14:14 |
I personally don't think The Works is overrated considering the album it followed. The songs from The Works were still much better that 90% of the crap at the time. |
| QueenNewcastle 27.09.2005 15:17 |
Underrated: Great King Rat, Breakthru, I'm In Love With My Car, You Don't Fool Me, Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll, Coming Soon |
| mystic_rhythms 27.09.2005 15:45 |
Overrated: 90's Queen. I understand there were some good hits, like "Innuendo", "The Show Must Go On", and "Heaven For Everyone", but even you will admit Queen started to lose their fire in teh late 80's, with Freddie's AIDS and the band's lack of success in the US at that time. Underrated: There's two things here: One - Hot Space. Yes, it is one of their lackluster efforts, but for God's sake, think of it this way: It was an experimental album, something that they wanted to try on for a bit. IMO it is great, I am a huge fan of 80's music, and this is as 80's as it gets, so I like it. Two - The Works. "Radio Ga Ga", "I Want To Break Free", "Hammer To Fall", "Tear It Up", it's all good to me. Some people like a few songs, but despise the rest of the album. How can you, though? Usually when I hear a song or two from an album, I will buy the album and listen to all the tracks. And most of the time, I will like a lot of them. As is the case with The Works. My faves are "Tear It Up", "Machines", and "Keep Passing The Open Windows". Especially the drum opening in KPTOW. Again, it's very "80's". There you have it. |
| 3137prof 27.09.2005 16:36 |
Underrated: Princes of the Universe, Let Me Live, Feel Like (Unreleased demo, that turned into Under Pressure) Overrated: Killer Queen, It's A Hard Life |
| its_a_hard_life 27.09.2005 19:39 |
3137prof wrote: Underrated: Princes of the Universe, Let Me Live, Feel Like (Unreleased demo, that turned into Under Pressure) Overrated: Killer Queen, It's A Hard LifeAh thanks im overrated... ;P |
| Madman007 27.09.2005 23:19 |
Underrated: Hot Space (ok, it's got a few bad songs... but not all bad). Some of the 80's songs just because they had synths. Brian's voice. Queen 1. Overrated: Brian's guitar solos. Q+PR. |
| Sahin Gu 28.09.2005 04:11 |
Fenderek wrote:well..good point..and it's your "opinion" too..:)mike hunt wrote: fenderick strikes again, who say's freddie's the best vocalist of all time, a great one yes, but not of all time. Fenderick wake up my man.Mike Cunt- go play on a busy crossroads. You must be a real fan o'mine, you keep reading very carefully all my posts... many people on this site say that Freddie was the best vocalist ever. I don't and you don't but many people on this site DO. I think as a perfect vocalist he's overrated. He wasn't. He may have been the biggest showman AND a great vocalist, but... Man, do you actually understand English? Do you know what an "opinion" is? Can you live with the fact that someone has a different opinion to yours? And why white man are generally crap in basketball? And why am I replying to someone who can't even get my nick right and himself has a surname "Cunt". I did get your nick right, didn't I...? you know..you can not choose "the best"..it depends on your criterias.. vocal range? it may be mike matijevic .. emotion ? it's relative..may be vocal technique ? it must be carlos broschi ? .. but "if you ask" me..freddie is the overall winner of them.. you can not indicate a certain decision that must be accepted by all over the world.. regards.. |
| Fenderek 28.09.2005 04:29 |
Sahin Gu wrote:But that's what I'm saying! Man, the thread is overrated / underrated. I just gave my opinion in a post and there it is, Mr Cunt attacking it. You amy disagree, fine, but that's not the first time he did it in childish manner. My opinion (and it was never more than that) is that Freddie ISN'T the best vocalist EVER, especially live and those who are saying this are IMO overrating him. That's it, that's where it ends. It's not general truth- this thread is NOT about general truths. To one Dreamer's Ball is underrated, to another Fun It. None is right, none is wrong. But if I suddenly said- Fun It underrated? The song is crap, what you're talking about, you're stupid- mature? intelligent? What's your point anyway? Disgree with me? Fine, we can even discuss it if you want... But i can assure you I wasn't indicating a certain decission taht must be accepted all over the world... I was just stating my opinion and from the very satrt I was aware of it. Which I thought was clear when I said "I think" nad mentioned word "opinion"...Fenderek wrote:well..good point..and it's your "opinion" too..:) you know..you can not choose "the best"..it depends on your criterias.. vocal range? it may be mike matijevic .. emotion ? it's relative..may be vocal technique ? it must be carlos broschi ? .. but "if you ask" me..freddie is the overall winner of them.. you can not indicate a certain decision that must be accepted by all over the world.. regards..mike hunt wrote: fenderick strikes again, who say's freddie's the best vocalist of all time, a great one yes, but not of all time. Fenderick wake up my man.Mike Cunt- go play on a busy crossroads. You must be a real fan o'mine, you keep reading very carefully all my posts... many people on this site say that Freddie was the best vocalist ever. I don't and you don't but many people on this site DO. I think as a perfect vocalist he's overrated. He wasn't. He may have been the biggest showman AND a great vocalist, but... Man, do you actually understand English? Do you know what an "opinion" is? Can you live with the fact that someone has a different opinion to yours? And why white man are generally crap in basketball? And why am I replying to someone who can't even get my nick right and himself has a surname "Cunt". I did get your nick right, didn't I...? PS Who's Mike Matijevic? Forgive my ignorance :) |
| Serry... 28.09.2005 06:43 |
Vocalist from Steelheart band |
| Sahin Gu 28.09.2005 06:45 |
pal,he is ex-lead vocal of Steelheart..if you want to hear him singin' really high.. i can reccomend you this song to listen "She's Gone - Steelheart" if you can't find let me know and i'll send it to you.. he has a real soprano high range..can hit A6 with falsetto (and freddie did hit D6 in a concert with falsetto)..not bad with low notes too..but not very very good..i think his range is about 4 octaves A2 to A6.. meanwhile may be adam lopez's or maria carey's range is higher than him but i don't count their range as "well used" personally..mike's tessittura is better than them.. |
| Fenderek 28.09.2005 07:36 |
Thanks, will have to check him out |
| deleted user 28.09.2005 09:23 |
Underrated for is Queen II... and I am not realy fund of Flash Gordon (maybe because there isn't much lyric in it) What I do like is Freddies version of Polar bear which challanges the high notes more than in Tims version and I do quite like this high notes... what I do like at Freddie is the fact that he is a selfmade man who learnt (thought) himself vocals by crossing the limits... I heard some classic college (professional) ever telling that he could have easly been a valuble tenor....!!! |
| dimcyril 28.09.2005 09:58 |
overrated is made in heaven underrated loads of songs and albums are underrated a day at the races never gets a look in when it comes to the press i think it is a cracker with no duff songs on it overrated song - another one bites the dust underrated song - was it all worth it |
| deleted user 28.09.2005 15:42 |
Underrated - Hot Space, If You Can't Beat Them and The Millionaire Waltz Overrated - A Night At The Opera, The Miracle (album), The Invisible Man and We Will Rock You (slow) |
| Fenderek 28.09.2005 15:59 |
dimcyril wrote: overrated is made in heavenYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AGREE |
| mike hunt 28.09.2005 19:07 |
underated 80's queen. |
| Teo_torriate04 29.09.2005 05:05 |
Overrated: A Kind Of Magic, The Works, The Miracle. Under Pressure. Brian Mays' guitar solos (sorry Bri). Underrated: The Millionaire Waltz (absolutetly the best thing they ever did, blows Bo Rhap away). Spread Your Wings and Johns contribution generally. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 29.09.2005 21:15 |
Overrated: The Miracle album, hating Hot Space, the greatest hits songs being overplayed to death on the radio Underrated: Ogre Battle, White Queen, '39, the guitar solos in Back Chat and You Don't Fool Me, eighties Queen |
| tomazrui 30.09.2005 21:42 |
Underrated: The Works, A kind of Magic. |
| mike hunt 01.10.2005 14:28 |
i agree. the works and magic are both good albums. for me queen2 is the most underated by the general rock public. |
| maxpower 02.10.2005 06:33 |
i do wonder why people are here overated = Brian's guitar solo's ????? overated = the people who post such bollocks |
| mike hunt 02.10.2005 11:04 |
you have to admit, brian at times was very boring. |
| Anto1 02.10.2005 11:45 |
me_and_my_innuendo wrote: Overrated: 90's Queen. I understand there were some good hits, like "Innuendo", "The Show Must Go On", and "Heaven For Everyone", but even you will admit Queen started to lose their fire in teh late 80's, with Freddie's AIDS and the band's lack of success in the US at that time. Underrated: There's two things here: One - Hot Space. Yes, it is one of their lackluster efforts, but for God's sake, think of it this way: It was an experimental album, something that they wanted to try on for a bit. IMO it is great, I am a huge fan of 80's music, and this is as 80's as it gets, so I like it. Two - The Works. "Radio Ga Ga", "I Want To Break Free", "Hammer To Fall", "Tear It Up", it's all good to me. Some people like a few songs, but despise the rest of the album. How can you, though? Usually when I hear a song or two from an album, I will buy the album and listen to all the tracks. And most of the time, I will like a lot of them. As is the case with The Works. My faves are "Tear It Up", "Machines", and "Keep Passing The Open Windows". Especially the drum opening in KPTOW. Again, it's very "80's". There you have it.Pretty much agree with you there bar Hot Space (couple of shining moments but the rest is pap imo) Underrated Flash, Jazz apparently. Overrated Add the Miracle to the above(90's). Again, these albums had their shining moments but they were few and far between compered to pre 86 albums. |
| kdj2hot 02.10.2005 14:18 |
me_and_my_innuendo wrote: Overrated: 90's Queen. I understand there were some good hits, like "Innuendo", "The Show Must Go On", and "Heaven For Everyone", but even you will admit Queen started to lose their fire in teh late 80's, with Freddie's AIDS and the band's lack of success in the US at that time. Underrated: There's two things here: One - Hot Space. Yes, it is one of their lackluster efforts, but for God's sake, think of it this way: It was an experimental album, something that they wanted to try on for a bit. IMO it is great, I am a huge fan of 80's music, and this is as 80's as it gets, so I like it. Two - The Works. "Radio Ga Ga", "I Want To Break Free", "Hammer To Fall", "Tear It Up", it's all good to me. Some people like a few songs, but despise the rest of the album. How can you, though? Usually when I hear a song or two from an album, I will buy the album and listen to all the tracks. And most of the time, I will like a lot of them. As is the case with The Works. My faves are "Tear It Up", "Machines", and "Keep Passing The Open Windows". Especially the drum opening in KPTOW. Again, it's very "80's". There you have it.I have to pick this post apart: YUou say they lost their fire and didnt have success in the usa in the 80's and then say Hot Space is underrated. Um, the two things are related, they lost success in part due to Hot Space. If you want to say they lost "some fire" it might've been from Hot Space until A Kind of Magic, but for the Miracle and Innuendo they were definitely rejuvinated and had a creative shot in the arm. |
| mike hunt 02.10.2005 23:44 |
the works and magic are two good albums, not vintage queen by any means, but still great music. the miracle for me is on that same level good but not vintage, then innuendo somehow they pulled out a vintage queen album. |
| aarojasf 03.10.2005 00:08 |
And not a single soul can say anything about the "MARCH OF THE BLACK QUEEN"???? I mean, c'mon, that song is better than BH itself... And Queen II it's their best album, i would say by far (but a lot of people will disagree, of course). The B side is just awesome. And WHITE QUEEN... uf. "Shivers down my spine" when I hear that song. DEFINITLY UNDERRATED, and the finest moment of their music. Something just too diferent, original, gracefull, delicate, and i could go over and over if I knew more words (wich I don't). HOT SPACE has also been underrated. And it's THE demostration of Queen's versatility. Cool Cat rules!! OVERRATED: The Miracle, The Game. |
| Teo_torriate04 03.10.2005 05:04 |
maxpower wrote: i do wonder why people are here overated = Brian's guitar solo's ????? overated = the people who post such bollocksWhen I said Dr Mays solos were overrated I was talking about his live solos which have hardly changed over 30 years. I was not slagging the majority of his studio work. |
| inthelapofthegods 03.10.2005 22:15 |
Overrated: A night at the opera, i want to break free, the game, Crazy Little Thing Called Love underrated: Queen I, Queen II, Jazz, Hotspace, A day at the races, and Made In Heaven |
| mike hunt 04.10.2005 14:11 |
ok, a night at the opera is overated. keep dreaming buddy, hot is underated? maybe, but give me a break fella. |
| Asterik 27.10.2005 16:05 |
Overrated albums; The Game- No hard rock, bad experiments with new wave (Rock It and Don't try Suicide), A Day At The Races- it's good but Sheer Heart Attack and Innuendo are better. There's not enough bite on ADATR (excepting Tie your mother Down) Songs; We Will Rock You- it is good but I think people should extend their horizons, All God's People (like BH or STL without the melodic tune), Under pressure (the live version is much better). Underrated albums- Jazz- great album with fantastic rockers like FBG and Dead On Time. Jealousy and Dreamer's Ball are lovely ballads and we all know about bicycle race and Don't Stop me Now. The miracle is also given a hard time despite being better than anything Queen had done in the eighties. Songs- Breakthru- it's more than an eighties pop tune, Ogre Battle- a great heavier one form Queen II, Play The Game, a stunning power ballad and You Take my breath Away- Love Of My Life takes all the glory when i think this is just as great. |