| FreddiesGhettoTrench 12.09.2005 06:55 |
Someone needs to pardon Mark Fuhrman. Seriously. Yes, the man made a mistake, but he acted honorably in the Simpson case and was only doing his job to the best of his ability. The defense had no right to bring his past into the trial and destroy his life. I'm glad that he has managed to work his way back up by writing books, including at least one New York Times Bestseller. |
| iGSM 12.09.2005 07:23 |
I'll pardon him. |
| Bob The Shrek 13.09.2005 03:43 |
"No, if I would have arrested the son of a bitch, I would have killed him. If I ever see the son of a bitch and we're alone, I would kill him...If there's nobody except him and me, dead men tell no tales." "Most real good policemen understand that they would love to take certain people to the alley and just blow their brains out..." "We stopped the choke because a bunch of Niggers have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all Niggers are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. Really is extraordinary, isn't it?" "Westwood is gone, the niggers have discovered it." "There is going to be a massacre in the future and they know that. There is the Rolling 60's, nigger group they went into a sporting good store and stole 50 Uzis, 3,000 rounds." "First thing, anything out of a nigger's mouth for the first five or six sentences is a fucking lie. That is just right out. There has got to be a reason why he is going to tell you the truth… You choke him out until he tells you the truth. You know it is kind of funny. But a lot of policemen will get a kick out of it." "We basically get impatient with him being so fucking stupid. Which I thought he was. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. We searched him again and found the gun. Went over to the baseball diamond and talked to him. When I left, Dana goes, 'No blood, Mark.' 'No problem, not even any marks, Dana.' Just body shots. Did you ever try to find a bruise on a Nigger? It is pretty tough, huh?" "When he gives me his driver's license, I'll just rip the fucker up." "I had 66 allegations of brutality… We grabbed a girl that lived there… Grabbed her by the hair and stuck a gun to her head, and used her as a barricade. Walked up and told them: 'I've got this girl, I'll blow her fucking brains out, if you come out with a gun.' Held her like this -- threw the bitch down the stairs… I must have about 3000 or 4000 pages of internal affairs investigations out there." Which of these statements he made and not even used at the trial, all caught on tape, do you want him pardoned for? One off hand comment can be considered a mistake, this many comments makes him a racist asshole. The defence had every right to bring this up in court. The only person who destroyed his life was himself - when he opened his mouth. |
| Robin 13.09.2005 07:01 |
He is a rotten, racist, pig. He got what he deserved. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 07:05 |
Bob The Shrek wrote: Which of these statements he made and not even used at the trial, all caught on tape, do you want him pardoned for? One off hand comment can be considered a mistake, this many comments makes him a racist asshole. The defence had every right to bring this up in court. The only person who destroyed his life was himself - when he opened his mouth.First of all, there's a REASON they were recorded on tape. These weren't conversations that happened to be recorded, they were PURPOSELY recorded, as ideas for dialogue in a screenplay. They were NOT Fuhrman's own personal views. Second of all, even if they WERE Fuhrman's personal views, we have a lovely thing here in this country called the First Amendment. You can't destroy someone's rights (he cannot vote, hold public office, or own a firearm or any other weapon because he is now a felon, which is B.S.) because you don't agree with what they've said. Also, even if Fuhrman were running around in a white sheet on weekends, that doesn't mean he planted evidence that he couldn't have planted to frame Simpson. Simpson is a murderer, plain and simple, and the character-assassination Bailey imposed on Fuhrman was just a cheap tactic aimed at prejudicing the jury and asking them, "What side are you on, white or black?" All, I remind you, aimed at getting a double-murderer acquitted. No matter what Fuhrman said, I'll tell you what he DIDN'T do - beat the shit out of a defenseless woman and then stalk her down after she left him, and slaughter her and a *real* man who had enough balls to try to protect her. That was Bailey's client. |
| The Mir@cle 13.09.2005 07:06 |
Like I said before... work on your humanity FreddiesGhettoTrench. And you don't do that by defending such assholes. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 07:11 |
The Mir@cle wrote: Like I said before... work on your humanity FreddiesGhettoTrench. And you don't do that by defending such assholes.You mean an honorable police officer who has risked his life to save fellow Americans, who tried his hardest to solve cases, even after he left the force? (His book "Murder in Greenwich" was a large factor in the solving of the Martha Moxley murder case and conviction of Michael Skakel.) Whose main passion was helping people have better, safer lives? Oh, he's an asshole. Sure. |
| The Mir@cle 13.09.2005 07:19 |
He might have done some good things.. But I still can't support a man who's a racist. Just like your greatest idol, mr. Bush!!! |
| Bob The Shrek 13.09.2005 07:33 |
'First of all, there's a REASON they were recorded on tape. These weren't conversations that happened to be recorded, they were PURPOSELY recorded, as ideas for dialogue in a screenplay. They were NOT Fuhrman's own personal views.' Wrong. He was recalling actual events. 'Second of all, even if they WERE Fuhrman's personal views, we have a lovely thing here in this country called the First Amendment. You can't destroy someone's rights (he cannot vote, hold public office, or own a firearm or any other weapon because he is now a felon, which is B.S.) because you don't agree with what they've said. Also, even if Fuhrman were running around in a white sheet on weekends, that doesn't mean he planted evidence that he couldn't have planted to frame Simpson. Simpson is a murderer, plain and simple, and the character-assassination Bailey imposed on Fuhrman was just a cheap tactic aimed at prejudicing the jury and asking them, "What side are you on, white or black?" All, I remind you, aimed at getting a double-murderer acquitted.' You also have a 14th Amendment which guarantees equality for all. I imagine that racist comments, especially by a public official, are illegal. I am not certain of that, I am English and have no real idea about US law or the Constitution. No matter what Fuhrman said, I'll tell you what he DIDN'T do - beat the shit out of a defenseless woman and then stalk her down after she left him, and slaughter her and a *real* man who had enough balls to try to protect her. That was Bailey's client Read extracts of the tape and see what he DID do - after taking an oath to serve and protect. He is worse than OJ, he was in a position of trust and he abused it, plain and simple. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.09.2005 08:21 |
Typical ultra conservative, always standing up for racist people.
Just like Barbara Bush comments on how thousands of people trapped in a stadium with no place to go, without food, or water were doing very well:
Barbara Bush said: What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them. What Barbara Bush REALLY meant to say was: God forbid all those niggers moving to Texas. I don't want to have any of those damn coons near my sight. I say, keep all them niggers locked inside the arena. Besides, they're all poor anyways, so for anyone who cares they're probably doing better there than before. |
| bohemian 11513 13.09.2005 11:24 |
So go and get Mark Fuhrman to Texas and the Astrodome asap Barbara! :-))) Anyway... I hope O.J. is going to hell... 1st and goal to go on the Devils one yard line!!! |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 12:57 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Typical ultra conservative, always standing up for racist people.Fuhrman's NOT a racist. And as for "tyical ultra-conservative", a senior member of the Democratic Party (Byrd senior member of the KKK. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.09.2005 13:13 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:...and Paris Hilton is a virgin.Mr.Jingles wrote: Typical ultra conservative, always standing up for racist people.Fuhrman's NOT a racist. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 13:23 |
The Mir@cle wrote: He might have done some good things.. But I still can't support a man who's a racist. Just like your greatest idol, mr. Bush!!!If Bush is a racist, then what's with his Secretary of State choices? And Fuhrman is NOT a racist! Just ask the police officiers who worked with him! |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 13:38 |
Bob The Shrek wrote: Wrong. He was recalling actual events.He was NOT. There was an investigation by the LAPD into his comtnd they discovered that few if any actually happened, and those that did were grossly exagerrated. You also have a 14th Amendment which guarantees equality for all. I imagine that racist comments, especially by a public official, are illegal.Only if you say them to harrass someone. There is no law against using racial slurs otherwise. You can turn to another white person and go N, N, N to your heart's content, not like you'd want to. Read extracts of the tape and see what he DID do - after taking an oath to serve and protect. He is worse than OJ, he was in a position of trust and he abused it, plain and simple.If Fuhrman HAD done those things, h lhave recorded them on tape! |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 13:44 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I'm not saying we should make his birthday a national holiday. I'm saying he should be allowed to VOTE.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Your view on the world is very, very distorted. Did you know that people whose views are like yours are often send to a psychiatrical hospital? So, what's your next statement? We should re-bury George Lincoln Rockwell (assassinated American Nazi Party leader, killed by one of his own captains with (irony oh irony) a Mauser rifle, German service arm durin WWII) in state on Arlington Cemetary?The Mir@cle wrote: Like I said before... work on your humanity FreddiesGhettoTrench. And you don't do that by defending such assholes.You mean an honorable police officer who has risked his life to save fellow Americans, who tried his hardest to solve cases, even after he left the force? (His book "Murder in Greenwich" was a large factor in the solving of the Martha Moxley murder case and conviction of Michael Skakel.) Whose main passion was helping people have better, safer lives? Oh, he's an asshole. Sure. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.09.2005 13:50 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: If Bush is a racist, then what's with his Secretary of State choices?I agree, he only likes black people as long as they're willing to get down on their knees and kiss his white cowboy ass. That ain't too asking for, right? FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: And Fuhrman is NOT a racist! Just ask the police officiers who worked with him!That's right. He liked black people so much that he called them "niggers". You know how down in the ghetto black kids always address each other as "ma' nigga", well so did Mark Fuhrman. He felt so part of the black community, that he found nothing wrong with calling a black person a nigger. Of course, Mark Fuhrman was kinda shy about calling African-Americans niggers to their face, and that's why he only used the term in front of white people. |
| Daburcor? 13.09.2005 17:39 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:I KNEW IT! No-one could REALLY be that big a slut!FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:...and Paris Hilton is a virgin.Mr.Jingles wrote: Typical ultra conservative, always standing up for racist people.Fuhrman's NOT a racist. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.09.2005 18:06 |
Barry © wrote: Paris Hilton is grotesque without her make up on, she has joke shop lips too.That's what happens to your lips after sucking so much cock. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 13.09.2005 21:08 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:I believe Bush would naturally like people who like him more than those who don't, don't you agree? You tend to prefer the person giving you flowers to the one spitting in your face.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: If Bush is a racist, then what's with his Secretary of State choices?I agree, he only likes black people as long as they're willing to get down on their knees and kiss his white cowboy ass. That ain't too asking for, right? FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: That's right. He liked black people so much that he called them "niggers". You know how down in the ghetto black kids always address each other as "ma' nigga", well so did Mark Fuhrman. He felt so part of the black community, that he found nothing wrong with calling a black person a nigger. Of course, Mark Fuhrman was kinda shy about calling African-Americans niggers to their face, and that's why he only used the term in front of white people.Mark Fuhrman did not call anyone that word. He simply made dialogue for characters in his screenplay that utilized this word. Cop movies are certainly no stranger to language like that. If you remember "Dirty Harry", there's a line of dialogue: De Georgio: Harry hates everybody. Limeys, micks, hebes, fat dagos, niggers, honkies, chinks, you name it. Gonzales: How does he feel about Mexicans? De Georgio: Ask him. Harry Callahan: Especially spics. Does this mean the people who made Dirty Harry are racists? After all, Callahan's loyal partner is a Hispanic. What about "Huckleberry Finn" or "To Kill a Mockingbird?" Are the people who wrote these racists? |
| YourValentine 14.09.2005 10:51 |
"What about "Huckleberry Finn" or "To Kill a Mockingbird?" Are the people who wrote these racists" If this represents the intellectual standard of an American "student", I really feel bad for the country. |
| Mr.Jingles 14.09.2005 11:48 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: Mark Fuhrman did not call anyone that word. He simply made dialogue for characters in his screenplay that utilized this word. Cop movies are certainly no stranger to language like that.Mark Fuhrman DID NEVER write a screenplay nor provided dialogue for it. On the tapes he provided to the actual screenplay writer Laura McKinney, Fuhrman talked about his experience as a cop, and provided McKinney with different anecdotes of his many years of service as member of the LAPD. In these tapes Fuhrman is heard using racial slurs, as well as admitting using these slurs against minority suspects in order to threatening them. As far as I'm concerned cops are fobidden of using curse words and racial slurs against any kind of suspect. Cops are only limited to raise their voice at suspects and urge them to follow orders. link Once again Sarajane it looks like you're more full of crap than a manure management company. |
| Erin 14.09.2005 11:56 |
Did ya see the Dave Chappelle sketch where he plays the black white supremacist...funny as hell. Loved it when he realized he was black and divorced his wife cause she was a "nigger lover." *LOL* |
| Mr.Jingles 14.09.2005 12:08 |
LOL I remember that skit, it was hella funny. I remember a couple of days ago laughing my ass on an episode where Paul Mooney was a movie critic, and he was ranting about Tom Cruise for playing 'The Last Samurai', and then he was like... Hollywod is crazy. So what's next? "The Last Nigger On Earth" starring Tom Hanks. |
| pma 14.09.2005 12:24 |
Erin wrote: Did ya see the Dave Chappelle sketch where he plays the black white supremacist...funny as hell. Loved it when he realized he was black and divorced his wife cause she was a "nigger lover." *LOL*What about the skit where Dave was in a hearing for a jury duty during various trials. One of them being the OJ Simpson case. I recall he brought up Fuhrman on it. "Fuhrman? That sounds like a racist name. Fuhrer, German!" "Trust me, as a person that says nigger a lot, I can tell you that THAT nigger says nigger alot" Hey, this noticeboard is being totally un-pc... |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 14.09.2005 13:52 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:And Fuhrman's screenplay WAS literature.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: What about "Huckleberry Finn" or "To Kill a Mockingbird?" Are the people who wrote these racists?Are you aware of the fact that anything qualifying as LITERATURE has been excempt from censorship since the mid-1800s? That has a reason, you know... |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 14.09.2005 13:54 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I never said racism is okay. I abhor it, especially as a minority citizen myself.YourValentine wrote: "What about "Huckleberry Finn" or "To Kill a Mockingbird?" Are the people who wrote these racists" If this represents the intellectual standard of an American "student", I really feel bad for the country.Luckily, this only represents the intellectual standard of America's No. 1 Bush-supporting, KKK-lovin' racism-is-ok saying pro-life/pro-death penalty walking natural impossibility. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 14.09.2005 13:59 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Mark Fuhrman DID NEVER write a screenplay nor provided dialogue for it.Read "Murder in Brentwood". McKinney and Fuhrman were CO-WRITING the screenplay. Fuhrman even attended quite a few meetings plugging the movie to different studios, without much luck. |
| Mr.Jingles 14.09.2005 15:08 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Once again complete and total B.S.Mr.Jingles wrote: Mark Fuhrman DID NEVER write a screenplay nor provided dialogue for it.Read "Murder in Brentwood". McKinney and Fuhrman were CO-WRITING the screenplay. Fuhrman even attended quite a few meetings plugging the movie to different studios, without much luck. "Murder In Brentwood" was a book about the O.J. Simpson trial that Fuhrman was credited for writing by himself, and McKinny WAS NOT involved in writing the book at all. The only relationship between McKinny and "Murder In Brentwood" was that her name is mentioned when Fuhrman recalls the time when he served as a consultant for McKinny and how she was called to testify about Fuhrman using the "N" word during the interviews taped by McKinny. It is more than clear that Fuhrman wasn't involved at all on writing the story that McKinny was planning on turning into a screenplay, and Fuhrman provided nothing other than his personal views and comments about police procedures by the LAPD, in which he used the word "nigger" 42 times. Here's a transcript of the McKinny testimonials about the tapes: link Of course, you're basing all your views based on Fuhrman's very own side of the story, which by now have been proven to be complete utter bullshit. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 14.09.2005 17:38 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Mr.Jingles wrote: "Murder In Brentwood" was a book about the O.J. Simpson trial that Fuhrman was credited for writing by himself, and McKinny WAS NOT involved in writing the book at all.I am fully aware of that. However, IN "Murder in Brentwood", Fuhrman very clearly explains the tapes, AND the relationship between he and McKinney - they were lovers, and they decided to write a screenplay. Fuhrman's colorful language was both for ideas for the screenplay as well as him intentionally trying to shock the "naive" McKinney.The only relationship between McKinny and "Murder In Brentwood" was that her name is mentioned when Fuhrman recalls the time when he served as a consultant for McKinny and how she was called to testify about Fuhrman using the "N" word during the interviews taped by McKinny.Fuhrman was not McKinney's "consultant." They were lovers.It is more than clear that Fuhrman wasn't involved at all on writing the story that McKinny was planning on turning into a screenplay, and Fuhrman provided nothing other than his personal views and comments about police procedures by the LAPD, in which he used the word "nigger" 42 times. Here's a transcript of the McKinny testimonials about the tapes: link Of course, you're basing all your views based on Fuhrman's very own side of the story, which by now have been proven to be complete utter bullshit.If Fuhrman were giving her serious testimony, why would he allow it to be taped? |