| The prophet's song 06.09.2005 02:16 |
Is TMLWKY written about when Brian was breaking up with his wife and when he first met Anita? If it is and it's obvious, excuse my ignorance. In the lyrics when it says "torn between the lover, and the love you leave behind" I thought that's what it may be about. |
| dragonzflame 06.09.2005 04:43 |
Yes. |
| John S Stuart 06.09.2005 09:29 |
kiwi_queen_bean: "Is TMLWKY written about when Brian was breaking up with his wife and when he first met Anita?" No - it is not. "Too Much Love Will Kill You" was an equal collaboration between three writers, (May, Musker, and Lamers), so it is NOT a Brian May track at all - but only one third of a Brian May track at best. This means (mathamatically) that 66.6% of the song has nothing whatsoever to do with Brian's sub-conscience. The final 33.3% was written to scan and fit-in with the other writers. In reality, Brian provided more music than lyrics, so in truth the "sentement" of the song - does not really stem from his ideas. |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 06.09.2005 12:24 |
but he could have come up with the idea of the song, taken it to his friends, who then made a few adjustments that were big enough so they could claim some of the credit for writing the song also |
| John S Stuart 06.09.2005 12:57 |
*3*Playful as a pussycat: "...he could have come up with the idea of the song, taken it to his friends, who then made a few adjustments that were big enough so they could claim some of the credit for writing the song also" No: That is NOT the case either, as the song springs from a jam session - not pre-conceived ideas. Infact, it was Elizabeth Lamers who came up with most of the lyrics, and was basically a love song - untill the chorus changed that. For example, the "Too much love will kill you - it get's you every time", was her idea. |
| Penetration_Guru 06.09.2005 14:17 |
It could still be 70% Brian, 5% Musker & 25% Lamers, couldn't it? Plus wasn't one of them his therapist, so would know Brian's feelings enough to contribute? |
| Bohardy 06.09.2005 15:20 |
I don't see how you can just mathematically divide the song into 3 and say that it is therefore only 33.3% Brian's. A song as a piece of art is not a data-set that can be manipulated mathematically. As PG said, just because 3 writers are credited, it in no way follows that they all equally contributed to the crafting of the song. |
| John S Stuart 06.09.2005 15:37 |
Bo Hardy - please re-read my mail once more. Did I not previously write: "In reality, Brian provided more music than lyrics, so in truth the "sentement" of the song - does not really stem from his ideas." Thus pointing out that it was much more than just a mathematical equation? PG: I accept your point also, but as I said to Bo Hardy, the division of labours was more "words" by Musker and Lammers, and music by May. However, I never really thought about one being Brian's therapist, but that in itself does not mean that he has to be relaying Brian's thoughts - does it? |
| Bohardy 06.09.2005 16:26 |
Your point that the sentiment of the song is not Brian's has no relation to your point that because the song is credited to 3 writers it is therefore 33.3% Brian's. It really doesn't. I know what you're getting at though. It's all about what makes up the essence of a song; what it is that defines and characterises the song. Whomever is responsible for the bulk of what that essence is, can rightly be considered as the major composer of the song. For example, you might have a song/piece of music that consists of 2 parts: one, a simple repeated rhythm on a tabla (made-up on the spot by a tabla-player), the other, a glorious vocal melody and lyric (carefully constricted by a songwriter). Technically the tabla part may actually feature more throughout the piece of music, but the song - its essence - would be all about the melody-line and text. In this case, the songwriter is clearly the main composer of the piece of music. It's an incredibly obvious point, but it's at the heart of what's being asked here. Who can rightly be considered as the main composer of this song? Bohardy (all one word...). ;-) |
| dragonzflame 06.09.2005 21:07 |
My bad. It appears I was wrong. I thought that most of the word were Brian's and the music was the collaborative part. I most humbly apologise. |
| Sebastian 06.09.2005 21:15 |
John's point of Brian being more a music writer in that case makes a lot of sense considering that both Frank and Elizabeth are (as far as I know) proffessional lyricists and not proffessional musicians. |
| Penis - Vagina 06.09.2005 21:53 |
The conclusions (or delusions) that people come up with never cease to amaze me. That's all I'm gonna say. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.09.2005 23:44 |
So who here knows exactly how this song was formed? I'm keen to find out the road from beginning to end on this one. As much detail if possible. No guessing or assumptions folks! It has to be based on truth - fact based evidence. Peace, Adam. |
| John S Stuart 07.09.2005 02:24 |
Adam: Too Much Love Will Kill You (Brian May version) Intro Demo 3:08 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Musical ideas that sketch the beginning verse of the song. First Piano Demo 2:55 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Mainly music - little lyrics. No guitar at this stage. Although the above "Intro demo" also takes place on a piano, (not a keyboard), this is the first demo of the song - rather than just an intro. Every Time Demo 1:38 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Ending Demo “21 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Lyrics added ad-lib, mainly by Elizabeth Lamers. little May lyrical input - but he likes the phrase Too much love will kill you - it get's you "Every Time". Both May and Muskers talk about idea's - but not actual lyrics. An ending - or final phrase is added musically. Second Verse Demo 1:04 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Rough sketch - similar to first verse, more/new lyrics. Again, mainly Eliabeth Lamers, but May and Musker again brainstorm ideas, providing Elizabeth Lamers with a few alternatives/possible minor changes to the bigger picture. “Shit!” Demo 3:11 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Rough idea of the complete song so far. This joins-up the previous demos. The opening verse, the second verse, and the final end bit. No bridge or middle eight as yet. Lyrics are refined, again little contribution from Brian, until he get's it wrong (or makes a mistake) - thus his biggest contribution at this stage becomes - "Oh shit!". However, he has said, "I like that bit", or "I think we could do that better", but no real contributory ideas lyrically. Acoustic Guitar Demo 2:35 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Polished version of the above. Brian on acoustic guitar, Elizabeth Lamers on vocals. Still no bridge or middle eight. Home Keyboard Instrumental 4:32 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. Nothing new lyrically, but more polished than the previous acoustic guitar demo. (Though paradoxically, the acoustic guitar demo has a more "charming feel"). First Vocal Demo 4:48 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. The song, sung by Brian, is more or less completed at this stage. Home Duet Demo 4:47 - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc. As above, but with the vocals shared equally by Brian May and Elizabeth Lamers. 1992 Back To The Light Album Version - Parlophone CDPCSD 123 1992 CDs Guitar 4:29 Instrumental 1992 CD Piano (Miss-press) 4:09 Instrumental - Hollywood 1992 First Live Version with/out Spoken CD Intro - Freddie Mercury Tribute: 20th April 1992 1992 Brian May Promotional Video - Unreleased: Home Video 1992 Holland Veronica Muziek Veilyny Video 21 September 1992 -Unreleased: Wanted Too Much Love Will Kill You (Queen) 1988 Freddie Vocal Guide/Brian Vocal Demo - Unreleased: GB IQFC Convention 2001 1988 Miracle Demo Promo Teaser Tape - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc 1995 Album Version - Made In Heaven: Parlophone CDPCSD 167 1995 US Promo CD Single Radio 3:52 Edit - US CDS Hollywood PRCD -10546-2 1995 UK VH1 TV Promo - Unreleased: Home Video 1995 Promotional Video: Heart-Ache -Made In Heaven The Films: WNR 2066 1998 eYe/Demo 1:47 Edit - Electronic Arts DDE05501 101S From the above, I can conclude that the lyrics have little to do with Brian's divorce, his relationship with Freddie, Anita, or his father, as he was not the designer behind their meaning, rather the majority of the lyrics do belong to Elizabeth Lamers. However, I do think the song IS about - Brian's divorce, and his relationship with Freddie, Anita, and his father - because he makes the song his own. Let me explain that last bit. I can buy my wife a birthday card, but I will not have written the little poem/message inside. Rather, I HAVE chosen the "correct" card to say what I feel. At that point the card transcends being a bit of paper, and becomes the embodiment of MY sentiments and feelings. It becomes MY card, and she recieves it as such (rather than a mass-produced ca |
| gnomo 07.09.2005 04:12 |
John, thank you very much for your detailed axplanation: I just love that song and I always wondered where it really came from - and your remark about the birthday card is simply amazing. You have e-mail. |
| John S Stuart 07.09.2005 12:01 |
Gnomo: I received your mail - and thank you for you kind words. If I can ask you to wait - please do NOT reproduce these notes I have made on Queenzone, as they are very rough. I will however be happy to make you a more accurate transcription of the tracks if you wait a day or two. In otherwords, a complete record of who says what on the day. Then ofcourse you CAN reproduce/use those transcribed notes if you wish. Would anyone else in here be interested? |
| Shane Jazz 07.09.2005 18:05 |
I'd be very interested in that, too, John. Thanks! I also have wondered about the songwriting breakdown of Love Kills. Why does Freddie share the authorship with Moroder? It seems that he worked on both the melody and the lyrics (as seen in the numerous rough drafts shown in the Freddie box set. What was Moroder's actual contribution? And is this why it wasn't labelled as a Queen song? |
| mercuryqueen 07.09.2005 18:33 |
What is this about? Why is there a arguement. Nobody can say for sure what the song is about except the authors. So John, shut the hell up and quit acting like you are Bri himself. And the rest of you, he might be right (though probably isnt) THe most likely thing is that the song was brought by Bri to them, the idea atleast, and they all put in their equal part about past relationships or what not. The song might not even be about that at all. Who knows what it is about. It could be about Freddie for all we know. The truth is, only Bri truely knows why he wrote it and i dont mind it bloody being kept that way. So leave it alone. Theres my pence. |
| John S Stuart 07.09.2005 21:50 |
mercuryqueen: "Nobody can say for sure what the song is about except the authors. So John, shut the hell up and quit acting like you are Bri himself. The truth is, only Bri truely knows why he wrote it and i dont mind it bloody being kept that way." You are absolutely correct, except that my point is Brian did NOT write the song. He did NOT write "Only Make Believe", nor did he write "Slow Down" or "One Rainy Wish". Therefore, I can answer with some authority and say these final three songs have nothing whatsoever to do with Mr May's mind - because they are cover versions NOT written by him. I do accept the point that those songs must hold some meaning for him, as he did choose to record those tracks over others, and I also accept we can not say what he had in mind for those choices. Nevertheless, that does not diminish the fact that he did not write them, therefore we are not really at liberty to say they are about Freddie, his dad, Anita - or whatever. Likewise, it is the same with Too Much Love. Brian contributed very little lyrically, but did compose the music. Therefore, again we can not say that this song definately reflects Brian's mindset - because in essence, he did NOT write the lyrics! |
| john bodega 08.09.2005 07:09 |
Heh. On the point of it being other peoples lyrics, and therefore not really being about Brian: I recall Brian May saying that The Show Must Go On lyrics were basically Brian imagining Freddie's thoughts on the matter, or something? Basically it's a song from Freddie's point of view, but he just didn't write it. (There was heaps of Freddie input too of course - the line 'I'll face it with a grin, I'm never giving in...' is one of Freddie's I think?). So yeah, it's entirely possible that these people are just describing Brian's predicament in their own way? Whatever. :P |
| maxpower 08.09.2005 18:32 |
it was written years before Anita, if my memory serves me right it predates Queen |
| The prophet's song 09.09.2005 07:00 |
well, that helps. Thanks, you guys are very thorough. |
| Adam Baboolal 09.09.2005 07:26 |
maxpower wrote: it was written years before Anita, if my memory serves me right it predates QueenReally? Predates Queen?? John, can you look at this and tell us if this is true. I've never heard this before and somehow it doesn't seem right. If it's true that means the woman who wrote the lyrics, sat on the song for years and years and years and only did something with it when Brian was looking at it. I'm really not sure about that... Peace, Adam. |
| Bob-Plant 09.09.2005 08:09 |
I don't know if John's statements are accurate, but he certainly seems to have a lot of info & facts. Brian has written songs that were from another persons perspective before. I think he once said that "Save Me" had nothing to do with anything going on his personal life, at that time anyways ('79-80), though ionically it foreshadowed a little of his life to come. |
| Bohardy 09.09.2005 08:42 |
I suspect Mr maxpower's memory serves him completely wrong. |
| John S Stuart 09.09.2005 10:28 |
maxpower: "...it was written years before Anita, if my memory serves me right it predates Queen" Sorry but your memory does not serve you correctly at all. I think you may be confused in that the track DOES preceed Brian's solo album "Back To The Light", by at least a good four or five years - but it certainly does NOT predate Queen! The song was written while Brian was in LA late 1980's. These home demos were all captured on the "Bell Boy Tape". In 1988 Queen recorded the track as part of the "Miracle" sessions. Too Much Love Will Kill You (Queen) 1988 Freddie Vocal Guide/Brian Vocal Demo - Unreleased: GB IQFC Convention 2001 1988 Miracle Demo Promo Teaser Tape - Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc 1992 Back To The Light Album Version Parlophone CDPCSD 123 |
| John S Stuart 09.09.2005 10:30 |
Bob-Plant: "I don't know if John's statements are accurate, but he certainly seems to have a lot of info & facts." Why wouldn't it be? It was all recorded on tape from conception to birth - as it were! |
| Shane Jazz 09.09.2005 12:45 |
I think Maxpower is thinking of White Queen, which was written before Queen. As for TMLWKY, I wonder why only Brian and Frank Muskers picked up the Ivor Novello award for it, and in his comments regarding the song, Brian said that the song was very much a form of therapy for him and that Frank acted very much as a therapist. It seems Miss Lamers should have been mentioned too! |
| Bob-Plant 09.09.2005 14:55 |
John-I'm not challenging the what you've written-I've just never seen or heard the things your quoting myself so I can't validate them. I'm guessing you have access or in your possession many rare Queen things that most of us don't. Cool? |
| maxpower 09.09.2005 16:39 |
no im not thinking of white queen - you silly people, i know one queen track from another, i thought i read it somewhere......... but the years are passing |
| The prophet's song 10.09.2005 18:34 |
so i gather it was just a very, very strange coincidence then |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 08:18 |
did you know that Too Much Love Will Kill You was first recordered for the Miracle album????? |
| AC 27.09.2005 08:59 |
<font color=violet>Hoekie Woutstra wrote: did you know that Too Much Love Will Kill You was first recordered for the Miracle album?????Did you read the whole thread before posting???? |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 14:56 |
STU-Y---- BRIAN DID KNOW ANITA SINCE 1987 AND THE RUMOURS SAID HIS MARIAGE FAILED BECAUS HE HAD AN AFFAIR WITH HER (NEWSPAPERS)"Brian and Anita began a secret affair behind Chrissy's back before he eventually moved in with Anita in 1988." (mirror, sun, back in 1988) AND GUESS WHAT TOO MUCH LOVE WILL KILL YOU IS ACTUALY WRITTEN IN 1987-1988... The song had something to do with Brian's affair ... and some while ago some queen insider actualy admided that it had to do with the affair... |
| brENsKi 27.09.2005 16:45 |
BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics - so it can't have been about his personal experience.... What he may have done is taken the sentiment of the song to fit his own experience - as John Stuart already said - The lyricist is the only one who knows exactly what the song was about...and as it wasn't Brian - then it couldn't be about him!!! one final point: It was an emotional love make/break song people who write songs like this write them because they have global appeal...think about all those beatles songs (for example)....LOVE ME DO, ALL MY LOVING, SHE LOVES YOU, ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, ...all written in a similar vein but not ABOUT ANYONE in particular....that's what makes agreat love song |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 17:23 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one |
| AC 27.09.2005 17:44 |
<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:Did you read the whole thread before posting?<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one If you care, you'll see an interesting analisys about the development of the song. It seems like Brian May focused almost only on the music, not coming up with the lyrics. |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 17:46 |
AC wrote:ac this is wrong how many songs did he write ? lots...39, prophet, we will rock you and many more.....<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:Did you read the whole thread before posting? If you care, you'll see an interesting analisys about the development of the song. It seems like Brian May focused almost only on the music, don't coming up with the lyrics.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 17:53 |
<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:I know he did wrote quite a few lines and the song is a state of mind worked to gether with pplAC wrote:ac this is wrong how many songs did he write ? lots...39, prophet, we will rock you and many more.....<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:Did you read the whole thread before posting? If you care, you'll see an interesting analisys about the development of the song. It seems like Brian May focused almost only on the music, don't coming up with the lyrics.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one Roger told in one of the early interview that "too much love will kill you" was Brian state of mind |
| deleted user 27.09.2005 18:14 |
MUTE |
| Sebastian 27.09.2005 18:28 |
> THe most likely thing is that the song was brought by Bri to them And how can you prove that? Frank could have brought the oridinal idea as well, or Liz. > The truth is, only Bri truely knows why he wrote it Not because he didn't (completely) write it. > He did NOT write "Only Make Believe", nor did he write "Slow Down" or "One Rainy Wish". Exactly. Your point about the card is dead right. That's the magic of certain songs: they can be related to different people in different moments. > Likewise, it is the same with Too Much Love. Brian contributed very little lyrically, but did compose the music. Actually neither of those points can be assured. Frank & Liz were proffessional lyricists rather than proffessional musicians BUT it doesn't mean they couldn't compose music. And TMLWKY isn't complicated, theoretically, it could have been the one time Frank and/or Elizabeth wrote or co-wrote chords (maybe they knew some piano basics or whatever). Theoretically, nothing can be excluded ... yet. |
| deleted user 28.09.2005 04:55 |
Sebastian wrote: > THe most likely thing is that the song was brought by Bri to them And how can you prove that? Frank could have brought the oridinal idea as well, or Liz. > The truth is, only Bri truely knows why he wrote it Not because he didn't (completely) write it. > He did NOT write "Only Make Believe", nor did he write "Slow Down" or "One Rainy Wish". Exactly. Your point about the card is dead right. That's the magic of certain songs: they can be related to different people in different moments. > Likewise, it is the same with Too Much Love. Brian contributed very little lyrically, but did compose the music. Actually neither of those points can be assured. Frank & Liz were proffessional lyricists rather than proffessional musicians BUT it doesn't mean they couldn't compose music. And TMLWKY isn't complicated, theoretically, it could have been the one time Frank and/or Elizabeth wrote or co-wrote chords (maybe they knew some piano basics or whatever). Theoretically, nothing can be excluded ... yet.Actualy your point is very well taken and I am jalouse at you because you found the right way to say it.... You see I lost my husband about 4 years ago and I tried hard to put my feelings in text, and I did but I got help from other ppl to put it in the correct way so it would sound better... they are co-writing, but the main feeling was mine... But yes it is hard to have a knowledge about what realy happened, cause they are the only once to realy know about it... What I do know (this is coming from an insider) is that TMLWKY was actual ment to be on the Album "The Miracle", but freddie thought at the time that the song was not complete and that some ad ons should be done... Also there where a few disagrements with Frank & Liz at the time... |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 28.09.2005 14:50 |
....to be totally off topic, what was Brian's first wife's name? i just dont want to make another topic dedicated to just that, cuz that would waste space... |
| deleted user 28.09.2005 15:13 |
chrissy (but I don't know the full name) |
| brENsKi 28.09.2005 15:20 |
<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:BEE-ny - i still think you're NOT getting it<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one 'written by' doesn't mean everyone wrote the lyrics and everyone wrote the music early AC/DC songs were written by Young/Young/Scott Angus and Malcolm Young wrote the music - and Bon Scott wrote the lyrics please try and understand BRIAN DID NOT WRITE THE LYRICS |
| Adam Baboolal 28.09.2005 15:57 |
Here's something to throw into the fold... Law states that even adding one word to a song means that you get a co-write credit. HAH! How do you like that?! Peace, Adam. |
| Sebastian 28.09.2005 16:17 |
Yes but not everybody applies that. Ringo added words to Eleanor Rigby and din't get anything, or Peter Straker to Slightly Mad. |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 29.09.2005 21:23 |
<font color=red>BEE<font color=gold>-ny wrote: chrissy (but I don't know the full name)thanx ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 29.09.2005 21:53 |
Sebastian wrote: Yes but not everybody applies that. Ringo added words to Eleanor Rigby and din't get anything, or Peter Straker to Slightly Mad.That's because it's up to those involved. They can be gracious enough to pass on such royalties. No-one fighting for anything here. Peace, Adam. |
| deleted user 30.09.2005 04:36 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:if you check many source it says... word and music and than states the 3 names... and as I said just even if he got the idea and talked about it with them and they made the lyric possible, it's in grose his baby as much as the other once...<font color=red>BEE-ny wrote:BEE-ny - i still think you're NOT getting it 'written by' doesn't mean everyone wrote the lyrics and everyone wrote the music early AC/DC songs were written by Young/Young/Scott Angus and Malcolm Young wrote the music - and Bon Scott wrote the lyrics please try and understand BRIAN DID NOT WRITE THE LYRICS<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: BEE-ny - it can't be specifically about Brian's marriage break up. He didn't write the lyrics -brenski, HE DID WRITE THE LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MUSKER & LAMERS IT SAIDS EVERY WHERE booklets and to many biogs, the lyrics + music are writen by the 3 persons....!!!!! You'll see it's noted everywhere... Too Much Love Will Kill You Written by Brian May, Frank Musker, Elizabeth Lamers and he talked about it before he did write it together with the 2 other one I do understand your point I am trying to tell you my point.... and as someone said before... 1 word makes him co owner!!!! |
| Sebastian 30.09.2005 08:23 |
As Adam said it depends on those involved. In the case of the Queennies they weren't so keen in specifying "lyrics by" "music by" as some others (e.g. Pink Floyd). "Music and lyrics by x & y" might easily mean "music by y", "music by x", "lyrics by y", "lyrics by x" or either one by both. Is This The World didn't specify who had done what but later on Fred cleared in an interview that the music had been Brian's and the lyrics were Freddie's. But as I said, nobody has ever confirmed that Frank & Elizabeth wrote the lyrics. Theoretically that's the most obvious option considering they are proffessional lyricists instead of musicians, but it doesn't mean it's an absolute. I finish up with the same: nothing can be excluded ... yet. We should ask Dr May in his soapbox, or somehow get to contact Mr Musker or Mrs Lamers. |