| Ian R 05.09.2005 01:09 |
This is a great interview with a guy who worked for Freddie between 1978 and 1985. An absolute must-read: link |
| Serry... 05.09.2005 06:23 |
Yeah... Pretty interesting! Especially his answer on question "Do you think Freddie would have wanted Queen to carry on?"... Hehe... I couldn't resist to mention it, sorry guys! (BPP would love it!) By the way answers of Peter are on 6th page of that thread. |
| Fireplace 05.09.2005 06:25 |
Thanks for that Ian, loved it! |
| Little_Queenie 05.09.2005 09:15 |
Wow, interesting and surprising. I would never believe some of the things Peter mentioned, but he knew Freddie, didn't he... Thanks for this, it was good to read:) |
| Sharron .G 05.09.2005 21:28 |
This is an absolute must read... SERIOUSLY, EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS who is a Freddie/Queen fan. Freddie's driver from 1978-1985 had such things to say such as: "Freddie believed he was Queen, so I do not think he would have wanted Queen to carry on" When asked if he felt Freddie knew he had AIDS in 1984/85.... Fred's driver belived he knew then. |
| Sharron .G 05.09.2005 21:29 |
The interview starts on page 5, when the black & red writing begins. |
| [StArMaN] 07.09.2005 06:24 |
I don't believe in everything. Especially when he talks about some of his words ending in Freddie/Queen songs... and other things here and there... too much tabloïd/fictional stuff for me... |
| deleted user 07.09.2005 15:15 |
lol, he punched someone in the eye. It was a fun read. |
| doremi 08.09.2005 12:00 |
That was amazing. Liked the parts where he discussed Freddie writing CLTCL, how Freddie named guys with women's names, how Deaky exercized by hanging in those upside down moon boots!, how Peter kep hanging up on Michael Jackson because MJ's voice was so bizarrePeter didn't belive it was him. Was surprised that Peter sees Mary Austin as a not so nice, lazy, self absorbed and unhappy lot. |
| deleted user 08.09.2005 12:08 |
He needs to leave Mary alone. It was funny that Freddie thought of M.J as odd. |
| doremi 09.09.2005 10:41 |
I liked when he talked about the practical jokes he and Peter Freestone would play on Freddie, like putting jam on Freddie's phone and ringing him up, or putting cellophane over Freddie's toilet. LOL! Sounds like happy times..good friends. |
| eissek 12.09.2005 21:35 |
I can hand on heart say that Gemma's a really nice guy. He spent virtually all the time he worked for Freddie, in his very near vicinity. At the clubs, other employees would be off like a load of greyhounds at Wimbledon, 'lining themselves up for the night', but as Peter was/is straight, he had nothing better to do than concentrate on watching out for his friend and employer. How many others do you know who worked for Freddie would be 'honestly' able to say the same? |
| AlexRocks 13.09.2005 17:58 |
It doesn't matter what Freddie would have wanted. It was of his decissions that lead to him not being here so he has no say what Brian May does or does not do with HIS (Brian May's) group... |
| Sharron .G 15.09.2005 14:56 |
AlexRocks wrote: It doesn't matter what Freddie would have wanted. It was of his decissions that lead to him not being here so he has no say what Brian May does or does not do with HIS (Brian May's) group...Thanks for this info.... I am going to go ahead and e-mail this info to Roger & John, just so that are as alert as you are as to the fact that this is Brian's group. Back to the real world. What you must understand is that in Queen, "Queen" was better than any of them were alone... that has been said, and its true. But Tim Staffel could not have been the front man for this group (and he has said this)... And honestly, I don't think a Mick Jagger or a Rod Stewart could have made Queen what it was if they were the frontmen of this thing called Queen. The campy, cross gender, operatic, vaudeville, balls to the wall rock, sexuality in question, piano driven broadway production of the music known as Queen, could only have been delivered by Mr. Mercury. All 4 members were equals behind closed doors... I do believe that (except for when Freddie really put his foot down, this fact is per Brian May) But in truth, Freddie, the frontman, the most prolific member, the writer of most amount of songs, the writer of most of the hits, and the person at least 50% responsible of why Queen sounds like Queen...and the person 100% responsible for name Queen, and the logo Queen...and the overall public conception of what Queen is/was.... Well... how do you say it?? He kinda was Queen. There is reason why in the US, many passive listeners/viewers of music just think "Queen" is a alter ego name for Freddie Mercury. |
| mike hunt 16.09.2005 10:22 |
i'm impressed sharon, i agree 100%. I not sure why there's any type of argument about this, if you follow queen you should know who the icon of this group is. just look at any documentry, half the tape is people praising freddie. I also noted who came up with the logo, the name of the group and all the early hits that got queen on the map, also their fashion statement in the early 70's was his idea, but saying all that, brian was a very close 2nd, he's the one who brought that uniqe guitar sound to queen and was brilliant song writer. The real reason freddie is considered an icon and the others are a little behind is simply originality, if it wasn't for freddie, queen would have been just another rock band with loud guitars and drums (meaning nothing different) he brought originality to this group. |
| Oberon 19.09.2005 08:06 |
Interesting indeed. About the point on Freddie not wanting them to continue without him... Remember that this guy stopped working with/socialising with Freddie before he died (didn't see any dates on that score), and I think Fred ended up a little more humble than he had been once he knew the end was near. I think we can be certain that he wanted MIH finished and released, but can't be so certain if he would or wouldn't have wanted them to do more than that. I think in interviews he'd said he didn't care what happened when he was dead other than that the music was appreciated, which definitely is still true. I think at the end of the day, whatever Brian and Roger do, no one will ever, or could ever, forget the importance and the influence Freddie had over all things Queen and the British (rock) music scene in general. |
| john bodega 19.09.2005 11:03 |
Of course! So according to this idiot - I mean, ex-dear-friend, a song entitled "The Show Must Go On" really means 'well sod it, I'm dead now so everybody has to drop everything and go to bed'. Hah. What an f-wit. |
| eissek 25.01.2006 21:55 |
That's not really what he said though. He said that in his opinion, away from the spotlight, Freddie was very possessive and more than that, PROUD, of the band that he'd played a major part in creating. However any of us see Freddie, we only see the character on the other end of a TV camera, not the guy waking up and crawling to the bog after a night of total excess. If you think you know the man better than someone who lived around him for six years plus, who's the real fuckwit? No contest! |
| Sebastian 26.01.2006 07:35 |
The Show Must Go On, but with a different band's name. |
| carboengine 26.01.2006 12:17 |
Sharron .G wrote: .... The campy, cross gender, operatic, vaudeville, balls to the wall rock, sexuality in question, piano driven broadway production of the music known as Queen, could only have been delivered by Mr. Mercury.What a great sentence, Sharron .G! |
| carboengine 26.01.2006 12:46 |
Ian R wrote: This is a great interview with a guy who worked for Freddie between 1978 and 1985. An absolute must-read: linkThanks Ian R. It was a great read! |
| PieterMC 26.01.2006 13:43 |
I personally did not care for the interview. Whether the stuff he says is true or not I think it should remain private. His response about Freddie not wanting Queen to go on without him is pure speculation on his part. |
| eissek 28.01.2006 00:13 |
Just speculation from someone who spent the best part of 24 hours a day, EVERY day, round the guy solidly for over six years. I bet he hasn't got the slightest fucking clue what Freddie thought at all. Pure speculation. Yeah, Pieter, you're probably right, fuck any logical conclusions, these closet Freddie psycho-analysts MUST have a much better idea of the "real" Freddie Mercury from watching their Milton Keynes DVDs. |
| carboengine 28.01.2006 03:23 |
I found it interesting that Peter was into weightlifting, and then Freddie got into it, too. I always wondered if Freddie was into some kind of bodybuilding because his upper arms and shoulders looked more filled out than in the earlier years. It sounds like Freddie was manic-depressive. Does anyone know if Mary Austin was a bookkeeper or accountant? I've read off and on that she kept track of things financial for Queen. Since Queen had such a massive marketing/merchandising machine, she must have had a very busy and responsible job. |
| Danny Buoy 28.01.2006 03:37 |
i can't find the interview on any of the threads pages... anyone know what i'm doing wrong? ta |
| eissek 28.01.2006 14:16 |
Try this link. link |
| Danny Buoy 28.01.2006 21:40 |
fanks muchly! |
| RussiaLand 02.11.2019 16:58 |
Ian R wrote: This is a great interview with a guy who worked for Freddie between 1978 and 1985. An absolute must-read: linkI can't open any of these links... Does anyone know where I can read this interview?eissek wrote: Try this link. link |
| dysan 02.11.2019 17:11 |
link |
| Stick 02.11.2019 17:15 |
Dude, the internet changes in 13 years. Damn. |
| RussiaLand 02.11.2019 17:36 |
dysan wrote: linkIt seems no urls were archived... At least any url I try to open, it says "Hrm. The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL." :( |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.11.2019 03:48 |
Anyone can put the interview here? The links don't work. |
| RussiaLand 03.11.2019 11:50 |
The person who took that interview deleted it, that's why none of the links work. That's a shame... link Re: a request for Kes; the peter jones interview Post by Kes » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:27 pm Hi there. Don't really want to go over old ground, but the Q&A session was submitted for post under certain conditions, those conditions weren't followed by everybody on the board, so in the most part the thread got removed by myself. Peter Jones is a close friend now, and I really don't want to run the risk of him, or any his family coming on this site and finding it's bad news bear week over an issue regarding him. I vowed not to repeat my mistake by ever re-posting it, and intend to keep my word on the matter. Sorry if this pisses anyone off, but I don't like going out on a limb (doing something THAT time intensive), and then having somebody laughing away as they cut the bloody branch off that I'm sat on. :oops: |
| Vocal harmony 03.11.2019 12:07 |
Sharron .G wrote . . . . . . in truth, Freddie, the frontman, the most prolific member, the writer of most amount of songs, the writer of most of the hits, and the person at least 50% responsible of why Queen sounds like Queen...and the person 100% responsible for name Queen, and the logo Queen...and the overall public conception of what Queen is/was....Not exactly. Smile had the guitar sound, the drumming style, the embryonic song writing style (early Queen) the harmony structures and Roger and Brian's combined vocal sound. Not taking away any of Freddie's talent but he was not 50% of what made Queen . He was the singer they needed, he was the front man they needed he was a great song writer, but most of what you hear on the early albums, sound wise can be traced back to Smile. |
| Mkls 03.11.2019 18:47 |
i found the questions page 21459 archived, but in only has some bits : "Did you get on well with the other members of Queen? Yeah, very well. I probably got on better with Roger really. We would go back to the hotel and Freddie would normally have a number with him. At one point, before Peter Freestone turned up, I would have to share… well, in Munich, we’d all have the Presidential Suite, which would be a bedroom one end, a bedroom the other end, with inter-communicating doors, and a sitting room and dining room and all the rest of it… he’d have his room and I would have mine, but then I’d be on call 24 hours, I couldn’t get away from it. It suited me to let Freestone get his foot further under the table, cos it took the pressure off of me, you know, he’d be calling on him, instead of me. So when we went back to the hotel, there was always millions of bloody tarts about, you couldn’t fight them off with a stick! And we’d either go back to my room or we’d go back to Roger’s room, and many a night we’d go back to Roger’s room and oblige the ladies and then see them off! And then Roger would be going on about when he first met Freddie; how Freddie was always sort of hanging around… he painted quite a sort of vivid picture about him not really being wanted around that much at the time. But Freddie would push himself... until the perseverance paid off. And the market stall thing, according to Roger, Freddie used to go and hang around there and that type of thing. So Roger and I really did have some deep conversations, which you do when you’re bombed out of your head… you sit and talk for hours about the silliest and sometimes most personal of things. I think that’s probably why he got on better with Freddie, than Deacy or Brian did. He was able to open up. He was a lovely guy, a really lovely guy. I’m sure if we met again now it wouldn’t be any different to what it was... we’d pick up from where we left off… but really I think that’s all water under the bridge now. "Which three words would sum up Roger best for you? (Peter looks skywards!) Another wine dear!?! That would be it, I think. He’d know what I mean. " "Was there any music that any of the other band members wrote that Freddie really disliked? Yeah, There was one of Brian May’s soft ballads! (laugh) I can’t remember the title. But he said “How does he expect me to sing this old shit?!” He sang it anyway though, and to the best of his ability. " "I must admit, it was only when he met me that he started smoking… that didn’t do his throat any good.. neither did s****** c*** probably either!" obvious why the moderator deleted it later.. |
| Holly2003 03.11.2019 19:13 |
I wonder what the ballad was? |
| dysan 03.11.2019 19:46 |
There's a few possibilities in that time frame. Nice to ponder... :) |
| Holly2003 03.11.2019 20:11 |
So we might narrow it down to Dreamers Ball, Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Las Palabras de Amor, Is This the World We Created...? and maybe Who Wants to Live Forever, although it's just outside that 1978-85 time frame. I know Brian sang 2 of those but it's possible there are versions with Fred on vocals. My money's on Las Palabras. And I'll bet Fred hated singing that dirge TMLWKY. |
| dysan 03.11.2019 20:26 |
That was my guess too. Although I can imagine Freddie loved the universality of singing that kind of song, perhaps he reacted against it because it wasn't a homo-robot dance track? |
| Sebastian 05.11.2019 14:06 |
Holly2003 wrote: So we might narrow it down to Dreamers Ball, Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Las Palabras de Amor, Is This the World We Created...?Also 'Save Me' and stuff that may not have made it to the albums at that time, including 'Let Me in Your Heart Again'. Holly2003 wrote: ... maybe Who Wants to Live Forever, although it's just outside that 1978-85 time frame.It was released in 1986 but recording sessions for the OST had begun in Summer 1985, so it may fit. Holly2003 wrote: And I'll bet Fred hated singing that dirge TMLWKY.According to David Richards, he loved it, but it could've been PR. |
| Holly2003 05.11.2019 14:30 |
Sebastian wrote:Excellent observation. If it's true Brian wrote that song about Fred, who knows how Fred might've reacted. Maybe he wasn't in the mood to take onboard Brian's concerns about Fred lifestyle at that point.Holly2003 wrote: So we might narrow it down to Dreamers Ball, Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Las Palabras de Amor, Is This the World We Created...?Also 'Save Me' and stuff that may not have made it to the albums at that time, including 'Let Me in Your Heart Again'. |
| dudley-fufkin 7834 06.11.2019 16:19 |
my guess is all dead all dead, hence the brian may version got released. |
| The Real Wizard 06.11.2019 17:29 |
Holly2003 wrote:Hmm, worth pondering indeed.Sebastian wrote:Excellent observation. If it's true Brian wrote that song about Fred, who knows how Fred might've reacted. Maybe he wasn't in the mood to take onboard Brian's concerns about Fred lifestyle at that point.Holly2003 wrote: So we might narrow it down to Dreamers Ball, Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Las Palabras de Amor, Is This the World We Created...?Also 'Save Me' and stuff that may not have made it to the albums at that time, including 'Let Me in Your Heart Again'. But Brian has said he and Mercury more or less co-wrote the song. I doubt Mercury would've given it the time of day if he didn't want to. |
| matt z 06.11.2019 19:56 |
dudley-fufkin 7834 wrote: my guess is all dead all dead, hence the brian may version got released.That would make sense verbally - "all that old shit" being "came without a FARTHING a babe without a name... SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING is what she tried to say. SO MUCH ADO my lover ...FLEETED SUMMER,...etc" |
| dudley-fufkin 7834 06.11.2019 20:19 |
'brian im not singing a fucking song about a dead fucking cat' |
| AlbaNo1 06.11.2019 21:26 |
Two things Freddie didn’t display much of an aversion to were sentimental ballads , or cats. |
| matt z 06.11.2019 23:56 |
^true. Yet, the language would fit with "that OLD" line indicated. Hmm... perplexing. Maybe someone should be archiving all these communiques since so many disappear |
| dudley-fufkin 7834 07.11.2019 18:08 |
If freddie didnt like singing a Brian ballad, they wouldnt have done it live, so it cant have been save me etc, it must have been an album track that wasnt done live. |
| Mkls 28.08.2020 05:23 |
i found most of the stuff on my hdd . should i post it here or some other way? Its obvious why qpl/queenonline made it deleted , and i dont need troubles with them ... post it on mega or stg? |
| RussiaLand 29.08.2020 10:04 |
Mkls, it would be great if you posted it somewhere! Wherever you think is more appropriate. |
| Mkls 29.08.2020 12:54 |
RussiaLand wrote: Mkls, it would be great if you posted it somewhere! Wherever you think is more appropriate.link ... feel free to post it |
| Negative Creep 29.08.2020 14:31 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Freddie was the voice and the focal point of the band...... he also happened to write pretty much all the band's 70's hit singles. Without Seven Seas Of Rhye - Killer Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody it is somewhat doubtful they'd have gone on to be the massive band they were, or continued for as long as they did. I'm not a Freddie fanboy, I recognise that the others contributed greatly to the band - but to suggest Smile had the songs is laughable. Sounds don't connect with the public and make hits..... songs and voices do.Sharron .G wrote . . . . . . in truth, Freddie, the frontman, the most prolific member, the writer of most amount of songs, the writer of most of the hits, and the person at least 50% responsible of why Queen sounds like Queen...and the person 100% responsible for name Queen, and the logo Queen...and the overall public conception of what Queen is/was....Not exactly. Smile had the guitar sound, the drumming style, the embryonic song writing style (early Queen) the harmony structures and Roger and Brian's combined vocal sound. Not taking away any of Freddie's talent but he was not 50% of what made Queen . He was the singer they needed, he was the front man they needed he was a great song writer, but most of what you hear on the early albums, sound wise can be traced back to Smile. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2020 14:46 |
Smile may have had a lot of things going on for it, but it was still going nowhere. The same, however, could be applied to Frederick: he had talent, creativity, etc., but without Brian, John and Roger, he would've probably ended up designing illustrations for other people and that'd be it. |
| mike hunt 29.08.2020 18:48 |
They needed each other, but you could say the same for any great band. Freddie and Brian were the prolific writers of the band. Especially Freddie, he had a unique style of writing. Obviously Brian's guitar sound was huge. |
| mike hunt 29.08.2020 18:49 |
They needed each other, but you could say the same for any great band. Freddie and Brian were the prolific writers of the band. Especially Freddie, he had a unique style of writing. Obviously Brian's guitar sound was huge. |
| RussiaLand 30.08.2020 10:32 |
Mkls wrote: link ... feel free to post itThank you so much!! |
| RussiaLand 30.08.2020 16:25 |
I've finally read it all and it's really interesting! Thanks again for sharing! I was surprised to read about the 'stay-in' periods in Freddie's life when he didn't go out and didn't communicate with anyone. I've never read that anywhere before. But I somehow had a feeling he might have had such times, I don't know why... A really interesting interview! |