FreddiesGhettoTrench 04.09.2005 09:41 |
RIP Chief Justice Rehnquist... |
bohemian 11513 04.09.2005 09:51 |
Yeah, RIP... only the good die young! :-) We Queenzoners will desperately miss you!!! Life will never be the same for us in here... PS: I´m sure IKEA is going to name some new "Chief Justice" table edition in honour of you... How about "Quistie" for example? ;-) |
Saint Jiub 04.09.2005 10:47 |
RIP the HONORABLE Chief Justice Rehnquist |
Penis - Vagina 04.09.2005 11:43 |
Somehow I'm not surprised you're the one who posted this FGT. RIP old fart. |
Janet 04.09.2005 11:53 |
God, he was sexy.... ;-) |
Bob The Shrek 04.09.2005 11:56 |
I wonder who the kids in the library will mistake him for - Pol Pot? |
Serry... 04.09.2005 12:09 |
Ahem... This is most sadest news I've ever read on QZ... We - non-USA QZers - are always would like to know more and more about lives of Chief Justices of the USA... It's so interesting... More than box sets even! |
bohemian 11513 04.09.2005 12:39 |
Janet wrote: God, he was sexy.... ;-)Sure he was... up until yesterday! :-) |
Daburcor? 04.09.2005 14:59 |
Janet wrote: God, he was sexy.... ;-)You can say that again! I'd go gay for him in an instant! |
Forever88 04.09.2005 16:20 |
RIP :'( |
dragonzflame 04.09.2005 23:28 |
I have never heard of this magical being. |
inu-liger 05.09.2005 00:11 |
dragonzflame wrote: I have never heard of this magical being.Ditto |
iGSM 05.09.2005 03:30 |
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court? Beep?! |
Mr.Jingles 05.09.2005 11:35 |
Of course in some people's books there's no R.I.P for all the thousands of victims of Hurricaine Katrina. Just because someone's poor, young, black, or unknown doesn't mean they deserve to be treated less than some who is old, rich, white, and famous. After all, we all know that if New Orleans was predominantly white and wealthy Bush would have sent the National Guard even before the hurricaine started. |
jasen101 05.09.2005 16:55 |
thank god his dead! about bloody time. |
Saint Jiub 05.09.2005 18:54 |
Surprise? - a brainwashed far-left Democrat plays the race card. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 05.09.2005 20:59 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.He was NOT a "bastard", he was a very kind-hearted, good man. You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking ill of the dead. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 05.09.2005 21:01 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Of course in some people's books there's no R.I.P for all the thousands of victims of Hurricaine Katrina. Just because someone's poor, young, black, or unknown doesn't mean they deserve to be treated less than some who is old, rich, white, and famous. After all, we all know that if New Orleans was predominantly white and wealthy Bush would have sent the National Guard even before the hurricaine started.And you would have been bitching if he HAD sent in the National Guard. Bush is hardly sitting there going "well, are these white people or black people?" He is weighing out options and doing the best he can. Bush is hardly a classist racist, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice both grew up in poor black areas, and in Secretary Rice's case a poor black SOUTHERN area (Alabama, which is VERY close to the hurricaine-hit area.) |
Saint Jiub 05.09.2005 22:56 |
He did send the national guard. |
Serry... 06.09.2005 01:23 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:He wasn't only one 'a very kind-hearted, good man' on the Earth! Why should we need to know if he's dead or alive?! Most of the QZers have not got any clue who he was! Should I post topics on QZ about our Russian 'a very kind-hearted, good' governors, members of Parliament, about lives of pets of our President?<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.He was NOT a "bastard", he was a very kind-hearted, good man. You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking ill of the dead. |
Mr. Scully 06.09.2005 03:51 |
I also had absolutely no idea who he was but there was a short notice about him in our national newspaper a few days ago so I read it to educate myself... they didn't praise him, they wrote he was VERY conservative (for death sentence, against abortion etc.). So his death doesn't sound like a big loss for the world or even for the US justice. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 07:33 |
Mr. Scully wrote: I also had absolutely no idea who he was but there was a short notice about him in our national newspaper a few days ago so I read it to educate myself... they didn't praise him, they wrote he was VERY conservative (for death sentence, against abortion etc.). So his death doesn't sound like a big loss for the world or even for the US justice.Oh, so his death wasn't a big loss because he favors the rights of innocent babies over the rights of heartless killers? We need MORE people like him! |
Serry... 06.09.2005 07:37 |
If he didn't help to your favorite Mr Bush with all those votes in Florida (as I remember it was his decision to stop to count them) - you wouldn't say there words FGT... I'm sure! |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 07:39 |
Serry... wrote:Yeah, you should, if you feel like it! He was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if people don't know who he is that's their problem, it's not like I'm posting a message on the mayor of Sandpoint, Idaho!FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:He wasn't only one 'a very kind-hearted, good man' on the Earth! Why should we need to know if he's dead or alive?! Most of the QZers have not got any clue who he was! Should I post topics on QZ about our Russian 'a very kind-hearted, good' governors, members of Parliament, about lives of pets of our President?<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.He was NOT a "bastard", he was a very kind-hearted, good man. You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking ill of the dead. |
Serry... 06.09.2005 07:43 |
It's not my problem, my dear, if I'm - citizen of Russian Federation - don't know the name of your chief justice! Do you know the name of Russian chief justice? You have two minutes for the answer, otherwise I'd think that you've used Google or - oh no, you don't know name of our chief justice??? Shame on you! |
Bob The Shrek 06.09.2005 07:50 |
'Yeah, you should, if you feel like it! He was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if people don't know who he is that's their problem, it's not like I'm posting a message on the mayor of Sandpoint, Idaho!' You mean Ray Miller - don't tell me he has died as well, there is no justice in this world - well, there might be in the US now that Rehnquist has croaked. |
Mr.Jingles 06.09.2005 08:32 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Even Bush himself has admitted that the response of the government was "unacceptable". If it makes you feel better I have a tiny bit more respect for someone who actually admits when he's wrong.Mr.Jingles wrote: Of course in some people's books there's no R.I.P for all the thousands of victims of Hurricaine Katrina. Just because someone's poor, young, black, or unknown doesn't mean they deserve to be treated less than some who is old, rich, white, and famous. After all, we all know that if New Orleans was predominantly white and wealthy Bush would have sent the National Guard even before the hurricaine started.And you would have been bitching if he HAD sent in the National Guard. Bush is hardly sitting there going "well, are these white people or black people?" He is weighing out options and doing the best he can. Bush is hardly a classist racist, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice both grew up in poor black areas, and in Secretary Rice's case a poor black SOUTHERN area (Alabama, which is VERY close to the hurricaine-hit area.) |
Mr.Jingles 06.09.2005 08:42 |
Everytime some Republican politician dies, we have SaraJane posting a thread. It doesn't take a wiseman to realize that fans of a rock band with a flamboyant singer don't give a flying fuck if some politician they've never heard of dies. Does any remember when Leppar only posted messages about Def Leppard, and David Lee Rocks only posted about Van Halen, David Lee Roth, and how much he thinks Sammy Haggar sucks? Well, although I know many of us were getting tired of those posts, at least there are many of us here who are familiar with Def Leppard and Van Halen. Unlike the GOP, those were topics that were kinda worth discussing. I'm sure there's plenty of Republican and conservative message boards on the web. Ever thought of rather spending your time posting there instead of here, SaraJane? |
Mr. Scully 06.09.2005 10:23 |
"He was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if people don't know who he is that's their problem" Problem? I wouldn't call that a problem :-) How should anybody outside USA know him or be interested in the fact that he died? |
bohemian 11513 06.09.2005 10:42 |
President Bush on Monday nominated Judge John Roberts to follow "Quistie" as Chief Justice... ...and Janet I can tell ya, he looks sexy to me too... and he´s still alive! :-))) |
Janet 06.09.2005 10:46 |
lol! ;-) |
Mr.Jingles 06.09.2005 11:31 |
He's even sexier than my parrot. I bet ya that he'd look smokin' hot wearing an S&M outfit. |
bohemian 11513 06.09.2005 11:48 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: ...I bet ya that he'd look smokin' hot wearing an S&M outfit.Roberts or your parrot? :-) BTW, isn´t Roberts a parrot too? A "republican" parrot? :-))) |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 12:00 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Everytime some Republican politician dies, we have SaraJaneThe name is Sarajane. SPELL IT RIGHT. posting a thread. It doesn't take a wiseman to realize that fans of a rock band with a flamboyant singer don't give a flying fuck if some politician they've never heard of dies.Then don't read it! No one's making you! |
bohemian 11513 06.09.2005 12:14 |
Sarajane... will you please say hello to your brothers Billy Ray and Billy Bob... ...right, as Freddie was a "son of a gun"... say hello to all the Queen-fans in the "NRA" too! ;-) |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 14:47 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I think that in the case of rape abortion should be allowed, however the problem with this is if we only allowed abortion for rape the courts would be filled up with false rape charges. I think abortion laws should be up to the states and not up to the federal government. I am personally pro-life and I do not approve of abortion, but there's nothing I can do about it. However I fail to see the logic in being against death in the cases of notorious murderers and for "choice" in the case of an unborn child.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:God, you're a retard. You think a young teenage girl who a) got raped b) had an accident (e.g. a condom tearing, it happens, you know. Well, then again, you wouldn't) should have the child anyway? Even if she's, say, 14?Mr. Scully wrote: I also had absolutely no idea who he was but there was a short notice about him in our national newspaper a few days ago so I read it to educate myself... they didn't praise him, they wrote he was VERY conservative (for death sentence, against abortion etc.). So his death doesn't sound like a big loss for the world or even for the US justice.Oh, so his death wasn't a big loss because he favors the rights of innocent babies over the rights of heartless killers? We need MORE people like him! And you think having a baby isn't the parents' choice? Are you by any chance also pro-death penalty in addition to your anti-abortion politics?I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself). |
Mr. Britt 06.09.2005 15:30 |
Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote:Same here. Sad that he died, but he had no effect on my life.dragonzflame wrote: I have never heard of this magical being.Ditto |
Mr.Jingles 06.09.2005 15:41 |
Where's Sarajane posting about John Denver's death? Oh well, I guess John Denver wasn't a Republican politician so it doesn't really matter to her. ...well, it doesn't matter to me either. 'Gilligan's Island' was a shit show anyways, but I do feel sorry for John Denver. The truth is that far more people knew who Gilligan was than Cheif Justice Rehnquist. R.I.P. John Denver. |
Bob The Shrek 06.09.2005 15:45 |
'I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself).' The trouble is, the message doesn't get through and proves the death penalty is not an effective deterrent. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 19:11 |
Bob The Shrek wrote: 'I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself).' The trouble is, the message doesn't get through and proves the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.It's a deterrent to the people who get executed :) |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 19:13 |
Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end. |
Winter Land Man 06.09.2005 19:30 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Just answer us wrench,Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end. Why don't you ever post something having to do with happiness and only people's deaths? I don't want to be talked about when I'm dead. Mention something else, like celebritys having children. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 06.09.2005 20:57 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:Hmm... Does anyone remember the uproar when I posted a certain man's birthday? Hmmm?FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Just answer us wrench, Why don't you ever post something having to do with happiness and only people's deaths? I don't want to be talked about when I'm dead. Mention something else, like celebritys having children.Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end. |
Winter Land Man 06.09.2005 20:59 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Yes, but don't be stupid that you'd think everyone wishes him well.Messenger Of Leah wrote:Hmm... Does anyone remember the uproar when I posted a certain man's birthday? Hmmm?FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Just answer us wrench, Why don't you ever post something having to do with happiness and only people's deaths? I don't want to be talked about when I'm dead. Mention something else, like celebritys having children.Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end. And you wished one to John Lennon who is dead. Anyway, why do you have to do with death all the time? I'm telling your parents! |
The Real Wizard 07.09.2005 00:13 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Surprise? - a brainwashed far-left Democrat plays the race card.Surprise? - a far-right republican plays the partisan card. Your quick-wittnedness doesn't negate anything Jingles said, for the record. He made valid points. These people have not received adequate attention because they are in the lower bracket of society. |
Bob The Shrek 07.09.2005 02:30 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Err, no, because they have been caught, convicted and executed. A deterrent stops people from committing the crime in the first place.Bob The Shrek wrote: 'I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself).' The trouble is, the message doesn't get through and proves the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.It's a deterrent to the people who get executed :) |
The Mir@cle 07.09.2005 06:27 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench, You're a scary person... I'm glad there are just a few persons with the same extreme thoughts as you. It's a shame that one of them is the political leader of the US ;) I'm not gonna urgue with you (again)... But your political views are extremely "right". Attitudes like yours won't do the world much good. |
Serry... 07.09.2005 06:37 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:And how does it spells on Dutch?Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end. |
pma 07.09.2005 07:12 |
One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?" |
Mr.Jingles 07.09.2005 08:33 |
pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"Put aside the fact that conservatives support the use of force but yet claim to be "better christians". I don't think they've read the Bible enough to figure out that Jesus was a man who totally stood against war, violence, hatred and revenge. |
Mr. Scully 07.09.2005 08:56 |
"Right wing" is not necessarily equal to "conservative". I always vote only right wing parties. But still, most of my opinions are VERY different from opinions of the stupid guy who rules the most powerful country in the world. If I lived in the USA, I'm quite sure I wouldn't vote the republicans. |
pma 07.09.2005 12:00 |
Mr. Scully wrote: "Right wing" is not necessarily equal to "conservative". I always vote only right wing parties. But still, most of my opinions are VERY different from opinions of the stupid guy who rules the most powerful country in the world. If I lived in the USA, I'm quite sure I wouldn't vote the republicans.Yes, that's a generalization. Then again in my co untry there's close to zero difference between most major parties left, center or right (green's etc. minor parties are of course different and the very extreme right, but they lack the support of the average-Joe who'll vote the same party or candidate due to a bad habit or something). But in general most major parties say the same things and give the same (empty) promises, bunch of no-good populists. The one thing our senate is good at is given themselves a raise... Of course when a pay rise is voted upon a few hyper-lefties vote against it, but then willingly take the extra-money when outnumbered in the vote ;-) |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 07.09.2005 13:20 |
pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"You're ignoring the fact that we're not having a war just to have a war. We are liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam. |
The Real Wizard 07.09.2005 14:24 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah... and you're ignoring what pma said. You're completely brainwashed by Bush and his extreme right-wing propaganda. What pma said cannot be debated. The majority of pro-life people are pro-war. Tens of thousands of innocent people (perhaps more) have been killed in Iraq, the war of choice, the outlet for the majority of Bush's funding. It has cost not millions, not billions, but trillions. Bush couldn't afford to protect New Orleans, #3 on the list of possible tragedies, because there was "no budget". His words. Saddam was captured a couple years ago, if I'm not mistaken. The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"You're ignoring the fact that we're not having a war just to have a war. We are liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam. A year ago, National Geographic predicted this event in New Orleans exactly as it happened. I find that fascinating. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 07.09.2005 21:16 |
You should move south then, you are not exactly the kind of person who would fit in such a progressive area as New England.Yeah, you're right, I don't fit in with people who proclaim to be John Kerry's biggest fans but yet use "f****t" every other word (majority of Philadelphians.) |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 07.09.2005 21:19 |
The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam. |
The Real Wizard 08.09.2005 02:47 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 08.09.2005 14:39 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:World War II. People said Nazi Germany could never become a democracy. Look at it now. But the fact that it became a democracy was due in a large part to the Western influence in West Germany.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam. |
Mr.Jingles 08.09.2005 15:03 |
Chances are that this new "Iraqi Democracy" could end up turning against us. Besides, this is not the first time it happens. Remember when that fuckin' idiot Reagan gave weapons to Saddam Hussein in the 80s to fight the Ayatollah. Guess what he did with all the weapons and financial aid he recieved after the war with Iran was over? Oh, and don't get me started with all the help Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban received to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it. |
Serry... 08.09.2005 15:05 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Who said it? I mean this "People said Nazi Germany..." It was war against nazism, but not for democracy... War in Iraq is war for oil, not for democracy too. I hope it wouldn't shock you too much!Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:World War II. People said Nazi Germany could never become a democracy. Look at it now. But the fact that it became a democracy was due in a large part to the Western influence in West Germany.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam. |
Mr.Jingles 08.09.2005 15:09 |
She just made that up. I mean, she does that many times. So don't take that as a fact. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 08.09.2005 18:06 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.And the Iraqis who were being slaughtered by Saddam didn't need it? link ^ those people certainly look like they could have used it to me. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 08.09.2005 18:08 |
Serry... wrote:Jeanette Rankin, Charles Lindbergh, to name two.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Who said it? I mean this "People said Nazi Germany..." It was war against nazism, but not for democracy... War in Iraq is war for oil, not for democracy too. I hope it wouldn't shock you too much!Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:World War II. People said Nazi Germany could never become a democracy. Look at it now. But the fact that it became a democracy was due in a large part to the Western influence in West Germany.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam. Can you please give concrete evidence to support this "war for oil" bit? |
Mr.Jingles 08.09.2005 18:46 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Yeah, slaughtered back in the 80s and early 90s.Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.And the Iraqis who were being slaughtered by Saddam didn't need it? link ^ those people certainly look like they could have used it to me. Talk about a delayed reaction. It doesn't surprise me that Bush waited 5 days to send help to the victims of hurricaine Katrina. |
Mr.Jingles 08.09.2005 18:48 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: Can you please give concrete evidence to support this "war for oil" bit?ONE WORD: Halliburton |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 08.09.2005 21:49 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Yeah, Saddam really cleaned up his act since Gulf I. Give me a break. He was pulling the same shit after the war and was still pulling it up until we invaded.FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:Yeah, slaughtered back in the 80s and early 90s. Talk about a delayed reaction. It doesn't surprise me that Bush waited 5 days to send help to the victims of hurricaine Katrina.Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.And the Iraqis who were being slaughtered by Saddam didn't need it? link ^ those people certainly look like they could have used it to me. |