QueenZone discussion #606904

James Gaden wrote: It seems to me that with the imminent release of the "Return Of The Champions" CD, the continuing success of the tour, and the fact pretty much everybody who has heard Paul interpret the Queen songs has thought he has done a good job, the small contingent of emotionally crippled retards on this site (we all know who they are) are terrified that this album will do well. Of course it will, just like the music of Queen will never die. Freddie died, Queen did not. Perhaps the "critics" of Paul Rodgers have decided that the 125 million records Paul graced sold worldwide are not a good indicator of his calibre. Perhaps the fact the Bad Company were bigger Stateside than Queen ever were (only Led Zeppelin were bigger in the mid 70's) isn't a good enough reason to let Paul do his thing. Perhaps it's just a case of some sad, lonely people posting in order to make real music fans bite and get some much needed attention. This is a site about Queen NOW as well as the past. If you are adament Queen died in 1991, fuck off and listen to nothing past "Innuendo". And leave the fans who want to support Brian and Roger (the remaining members of Queen) and their legendary vocalist on their current endeavour. I saw it, and the magic was still there. JG

its_a_hard_life wrote: YES QUEEN+PR ROCK AND FREDDIE WANTED THEM TO GO ON LIKE IT SAYS "SHOW MUST GO ON" AND IT IS!

QUEENROCKS_1991 wrote: You have just swore on here and said nasty word about kids if u was adult enough then there is no need to swear is there ? just chill and they are saying their bit just like you are

QUEENROCKS_1991 wrote: no we are not saying he is replacing freddie we are sayin this is QUEEN + PR okay

James Gaden wrote: It seems to me that with the imminent release of the "Return Of The Champions" CD, the continuing success of the tour, and the fact pretty much everybody who has heard Paul interpret the Queen songs has thought he has done a good job, the small contingent of emotionally crippled retards on this site (we all know who they are) are terrified that this album will do well. Of course it will, just like the music of Queen will never die. Freddie died, Queen did not. Perhaps the "critics" of Paul Rodgers have decided that the 125 million records Paul graced sold worldwide are not a good indicator of his calibre. Perhaps the fact the Bad Company were bigger Stateside than Queen ever were (only Led Zeppelin were bigger in the mid 70's) isn't a good enough reason to let Paul do his thing. Perhaps it's just a case of some sad, lonely people posting in order to make real music fans bite and get some much needed attention. This is a site about Queen NOW as well as the past. If you are adament Queen died in 1991, fuck off and listen to nothing past "Innuendo". And leave the fans who want to support Brian and Roger (the remaining members of Queen) and their legendary vocalist on their current endeavour. I saw it, and the magic was still there. JG

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

its_a_hard_life wrote: YES QUEEN+PR ROCK AND FREDDIE WANTED THEM TO GO ON LIKE IT SAYS "SHOW MUST GO ON" AND IT IS!

God! some people don't listen do they ? TSMGO is about how Freddie carried on/motivated himself to record whilst in great pain with AIDS. To put it in simple words for you SELF MOTIVATION. TSMGO is not about whether Freddie thought Queen should continue as a band. Even after his death Brian, Roger and John said Queen could not continue without Freddie. Please get your facts right before commenting next time. BLOODY KIDS TODAY KNOW FUCK ALL

James Gaden wrote: "so we're emotionally crippled retards because we hate paul rodgers? intelligent post, idiot" A couple of questions. One, how can you call me an idiot when you said I made an intelligent post? Oh yes, that's right, sarcasm. The lowest form of wit. I am a writer for a music magazine, I am paid to express my opinions and back them up with facts, and I do that very well. Paul Rodgers is a legend and his music is still being played on the radio decades after it was released. He has made no attempt to emulate Freddie, copy Freddie's style or make Freddie's songs his own. He is massively successful and his presence fronting a huge tour to help Roger and Brian continue doing what they want to do has delighted thousands of people. Now explain to me why you hate him. If you back it up with real reasoning, I'll let the idiot comment go. If you simply hate him because he isn't Freddie, then you must hate an awful lot of people, and that's really kind of sad. JG

James Gaden wrote: Sweden Man, your argument is so weak it wants arresting for masquerading as an opinion. You said: 'i hate paul rodgers cause hes not a member of queen, though insists on using the name queen, he is trying to replace freddie, who has clearly proven he cant be replaced, and i just dont like his voice" His voice is legendary, so that puts you in a vast minority, but that's ok, nobody says you have to like his voice. BUT then you ruin it with an ignorant comment that Paul insists on using the name Queen. Why would he want to do that? He's sold almost as many records as Queen with his own bands - especially in the States. His name is on the poster. If he'd called Brian and Roger "Bad Company" then you're right, but Brian and Roger, the remaining members of Queen, are the Queen portion of the "Queen + Paul Rodgers" bill. And he's NOT trying to replace Freddie. That's why the band isn't called QUEEN, it's called "QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS". He doesn't wear clothes like Freddie, doesn't move like Freddie, doesn't sing like Freddie - the only thing they have in common is they are both legends. Pauls doing what Paul's been doing since 1969 when Free's "Tons Of Sobs" album came out. Care to tell me what Queen were doing in 1969? So Paul doesn't need to be anybody but Paul. "if you like paul rodgers, so be it, but you dont have to call us emotionally crippled retards cause we dont like paul rodgers" I apologise if my phrasing has caused offence but there's so much of it on this board that it becomes second nature. The bottom line is, just by looking at your profile, I can tell you never saw Queen with Freddie and you may not even have all Queen's albums. Therefore putting Freddie on a pedestal is not going to do anybody any favours. I have all Queen's albums, have seen Queen live, Roger live solo and Paul Rodgers live. I openly admit I had my doubts about whether Paul was good enough, but believe me, he does a great job. The last Queen tour was in 1986, so I'm glad Paul is helping Brian and Roger tour again. Both have tried solo but as Roger said "people are more interested in me as a member of Queen than a solo artist". As a massive Roger fan, I'd have preferred Brian and Roger to have been successful solo stars, but the turn-outs to their shows compared to this tour prove what the public want. Supporting the tour keeps Queen alive. Belittling it because of ignorant opinions regarding Paul Rodgers suggest that some people are more fans of Freddie than they were of Queen. The band were a four man unit. One died. One retired. Now two remain. Both have contributed massively to the success of the band, so it's their right to carry it on. There is nothing but respect for Freddie shown in the shows (although I notice most of the anti-Rodgers clan haven't seen one of the new shows) so I fail to see a problem. I think that a lot of the posters against Paul have yet to own the Queen back catalogue or never saw Queen with Freddie, which suggests their Freddie worship is a little less credible than those of us who have bought the singles, purchased albums the day they came out and attended the shows - continuing to support the band as they move on with their lives. Hardly fair that musicians of Brian and Roger's calibre should have the band they worked so hard for frozen in time because Freddie passed away. He holds a mike like Freddie did. Now thats wrong. Plus he aint a legend far from it JG

QUEENROCKS_1991 wrote: Freddie does want this to go on why else this song went to queen THE SHOW MUST GO ON unless it gonna remake THE SHOW MUST END lol hey i am cool and no need to get huff n puff lol

QUEENROCKS_1991 wrote: did i call you names nah now u calling me a Bastard now i know you are not a very nice person at all

tia wrote: YAWN!!

its_a_hard_life wrote: I WONDER WHAT RICHARD ORCHARD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS BAD POODLE GUY FIRST OF ALL YOUR POSTING TOO MUCH CRAP AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND SEE QUEEN+PR LET THEM PLEASE YOU CANT STOP PEOPLE FROM CHOOSING WHAT THEY WANT, SECOUND YOUR SWEARING AT PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY TRYING TO CALM YOU DOWN QUEENROCK_1991 HAS BEEN SO NICE TO YOU HASNT EVEN SWEARED BACK AND YOU JUST THROWN IT BACK IN HIS FACE! WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU! I WANT SOMEONE TO BAN HIM NOW AND I NO MANY PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME! THANK YOU.

Knute wrote: James, You are far too intelligent for the likes of fools like BPP and sweden man. They can't come back with any sort of retort that doesn't make them look even stupider. So continue bringing it to them, I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

James Gaden wrote: "i dont really mind the tour, but its just not right when freddie, as sebastian said, clearly stated that queen would be dead when one of them were, yet they still continue to go under the name of queen" BUT THEY AREN'T. THAT'S THE POINT. Only the people who talk as if Paul has replaced Freddie think it's a big Queen scam. You cannot use one quote from Freddie dating back to God knows when and say Brian and Roger are doing wrong. If you have all the albums but Innuendo, why did you buy "Made In Heaven"? Hardly anything new on there, most of it rehashed from solo projects or old b-sides, but nobody says that's not a Queen album. If Queen is Roger, Freedie, Brian and John, does that make "Shove It" a Queen album? The bottom line - marketing. To sell out a tour you need a brand name. Queen is the brand name. Respect has been shown by calling it Queen + PR, not just Queen. Only the tossers who haven't bothered doing their homework are calling Paul Freddie's replacement. He is simply the lead vocalalist. Or is Brian trying to replace Freddie when he sings "Love Of My Life"? The Queen name along with PR's name fills big venues, so it's used. Your comment that you've not seen them live but have DVD's is absurd. As someone who has seen countless concerts with the express purpose of reviewing them, I can tell you DVD's are a poor live substitute. Watch Milton Keynes and Freddie's howler in "Fat Bottomed Girls" is not there - magic has been weaved. Watch how Roger's lyrical gaff is fixed on the upcoming show from Sheffield. DVD's can be altered and tweaked. Live on stage there is nowhere to hide, so until you see the real deal, refrain from telling me who's better. Paul and Freddie are totally different entities, which is why theoretically Paul was a good choice. I'm sure the fact he was an established name before Queen had their first hit along with the fact he is a bona fide God in the rock world suggested to Brian and Roger that they could go out and play these songs without disrespect to Freddie. It seems the small contingent of critics are simply made up of a) People who were more fans of Freddie then they were of Queen, which means they shouldn't really be posting on a forum that looks at the future of Queen as well as it's glorious past b) Children who are too young to appreciate just how famous Paul Rodgers is, what he's achieved and what a magnificent bill this is It's not Queen circa 1986 (the last time they did anything live). It's Queen and Paul Rodgers. New line up, with old songs, new songs, Free songs, Bad Company songs. Awesome experience, lots of respect to the past. Biggest cheer of the night went to Freddie, who Paul aptly saluted and left the stage for as we all sang along to "Bohemian Rhapsody". So you tell me how he plans to replace the irreplaceable with an action like that? He doesn't. He doesn't need to. His job is to sing, and he does it very well. JG

tiffmoab wrote: Since when was Paul Rodgers so big in the US? I'm 27 and I don't know anyone my age who has even heard of him. Regardless of whether he was popular at one point, it appears that his music has not really withstood the test of time. On the other hand, if you go around and talk to most young Americans, I can assure you that the only thing that they know about Queen (assuming that they know anything at all) is the name "Freddie Mercury". After all, Freddie really was the star of Queen. That is why people most people remember him and not the other three members. Every once in a while I will run into someone who also knows the name "Brian May", but it is not as common. He is not even in the almanac or under link. Let's face it, Freddie is what most people know and remember about the band. Furthermore, it is worth asking why, if Brian and Roger are the equivalent of Queen, they have they not produced anything of significance in the past 15 years. Because it can be argued that Freddie=Queen, it is definitely reasonable to argue that the current Queen+ Paul Rodgers tour is nothing more than what most Americans know it to be: a huge joke. My final comment involves the fact that it is really annoying to hear Europeans complain about Americans' lack of taste in rock music. After all, we INVENTED rock and roll back in the 1950s. OK, it was actually mostly black Americans who invented it, but without them, there wouldn't be any rock and roll at all!

<font color=space>sweden_man wrote: i dislike the tour, but maybe you dont. fair enough, why do you guys have to keep bugging us about it?