| merc 16.08.2005 08:04 |
Does anyone else get the feeling that Brian is really enjoying life in Queen at the moment and for the past few years, not just because he's up and touring again, but because he is pretty much the frontman of the band and gets most of the credit. Lets face it, with freddie around there was only one frontman, but now it seems like brian is keen to get as much of the spotlight as possible and become the new freddie of the band. Fair enough i suppose, he did write a hell of a lot of their good songs but i dunno, to me he seems like a bit of a tool these days. Did i read somewhere that he said Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't a pivotal point in their career as a band?!! Maybe i didnt, i swear i heard it somewhere, although i could be pulling that out of no-where. He seems to enjoy getting as much credit as possible, thats all im trying to say. Even when freddie was around he seemed like a tool. Remember folks...merely an opinion! |
| Serry... 16.08.2005 08:14 |
Brenski and me were near the banning from QZ for having such opinion, you know... Let's not start it all again - find topic 'queen and paul rodgers' in General forum, there's a lot of thoughts about it. |
| tia 16.08.2005 08:24 |
I think he just really loves what he does. He is not ready to put Queen to bed. He knows how many fans are out there. I dont think he is glad to take over as the frontman, he always had good things to say about Freddie and missed him terribly. |
| merc 16.08.2005 09:09 |
yeah good points barn and tia. Wasn't intending to stir people up. Was just interested to see what other people thought. I guess Brian was always a very vocal one, obviously especially when compared to john. just for the record i wasnt meaning to bag the whole queen and paul rodgers thing either. It does seem on here that people are very keen to latch on to anyone who even hints at saying a bad thing about it. Shall go and do a search for the brian topic now. |
| Sharron .G 16.08.2005 10:36 |
What I always liked about Freddie was is that he let the music and his stage performance do the talking. Freddie had a passive aggressive attitude that I read as "You wanna talk shit about me?? go for it....watch this... who puts on a live show like me??" Freddie new he was an awesome front man. The 3 others may have wrote great songs, and been great performers as well.... but for me, Freddie is the creative genius behind the band Queen. |
| Krizzy 16.08.2005 10:53 |
Hold on there! Let's not get carried away and keep beating that all too dead horse again, IMHO Brian May has every damn right to be proud as does Roger Taylor and John Deacon. They created Queen with the unreplaceable Freddie Mercury. However, you can take offensive to his opinions (of which he has many! LOL) or his stealing the spotlight (again he's an entertainer, duh!) that is your choice, but Brian is a very unusual rock star no matter how you slice it, he actually cares what his fans and Queen fans think...how many rock stars give a sh*t what any of their fans think or respect thier opinions...not too many and another thing (geez I can't believe I'm saying this again) but he makes himself available to connect with them...pretty unusual and rare...BTW Thanks, Brian! Kriz ;o) |
| Good_Company50 16.08.2005 15:21 |
Well said, Krizzy!! |
| deleted user 16.08.2005 20:01 |
Well, I don't know why he's happy. Maybe being the frontman does that. Well it doesn't matter to me.. I'm glad that he's enjoying his life as much as he does now :) He desirves that. |
| antiden 17.08.2005 03:16 |
I really think, that Brian is enjoying being "the main tool" in Queen nowadays. The more credits he gets - much more satisfied he gets! Guys, its so obvious!! Look, he is alreaday not that shy Brian that used to be in 71-91 period. He did change greatly within the past decade. I know a lot of fans who do not approve of his actions, comments or opinions at present. Sometimes he says really strange things, that contradict to what we used to know... Especially the fact, that Freddie was a fan of Paul Rodgers... What a bullshit! Nobody knew it untill 2004. Everything is done for commercial purposes mainly... And his comments concerning Bo Rha was not such a big deal for them... Are we so stupid? |
| antiden 17.08.2005 08:57 |
Any thoughts from somebody else? |
| tupincs 17.08.2005 09:27 |
I didn't really understand your post, Antiden. First I thought you are a supporter of Brian coming to the spotlight. Then everything just commercial in your opinion. |
| Bobby_brown 17.08.2005 09:55 |
antiden wrote: Any thoughts from somebody else?This has been discussed already, but here it goes: 1) Paul Rodgers- Brian May has always introduced Paul Rodgers as one of the best blue singers ever. See the video "Guitar Legends" in spain from 1992, where he says that Rodgers has influenced probably every great rock singer... 2) Bohemian Rhapsody- I never heard Brian say a bad thing about this song. Post the interview so i can read that, and see the context in wich he says that (if he really says that). What he says is that Killer Queen (Freddie composition) was the turning point of their career and he's right. This means that whithout Killer Queen they'd probably never got the support (money, studio facilities) from their label to do "A Night at the Opera" in the way they wanted to do. Of course, in the end, Bo Rhap is their most important song or is it We will Rock You, or We are the champions?- You know what i mean, Killer Queen is the beguining... 3) Brian May- I still think he's shy, but this time he can't hide behind Freddie so he has to go to the spotlight, and if he feels confortable it's because he feels that his fans are suporting him and the band. Don't forget that Roger Taylor is enjoying the spotlight too. I mean, i never saw a drumer as charismatic as Roger who has such a relation with his audience! This is probably the reason why John Deacon don't want to tour. He doesn't want to change his attitude. He knows that if he tours he have to guive interviews, promote the concerts, etc, and probably this would be too violent for him. It´s violent for Brian too, but he made a conscient decision to do so, and he's getting used to it. Can you imagine the consequences to the Queen music if all of them decided to be away from the music business? We should be thankfull to Brian for taking care of the Queen cathalog, and personally supervise the new re-mixes DVD, etc. Beacause one thing is true, even though we don't allways agree about the release product (extras, etc), at least we know that the sound is the best they could achive, because Brian is taking care of that, and he wouldn't allow otherwise! And as someone stated before, this has been already discussed, and i don't understant why suddenly we are trying to analyse everything Brian does, and turning it against him! It sounds as if Brian has become a very diferent person from what he used to be (and in his case, a worst person)! I just hope he doesn't read Queenzone at all, because since they started the tour this site can be described as everything, but certainly not a Queen fan site. Take care |
| Serry... 17.08.2005 10:32 |
Brian didn't say anything bad about Bo Rhap, but to be honest that "Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't a pivotal point in their career as a band" - yes, he said it. Though he means something other, not bad about BR actually. This quote is out of context. (I hope no-one would ask to ban me for this reply.....) |
| Daburcor? 17.08.2005 13:06 |
They'd be a fool if they did. |
| Little_Queenie 17.08.2005 13:41 |
merc wrote: Does anyone else get the feeling that Brian is really enjoying life in Queen at the moment and for the past few years, not just because he's up and touring again, but because he is pretty much the frontman of the band and gets most of the credit.No, I don't get that feeling at all. Though Brian really is enjoying, but not because of the things you mentioned, dammit, he's enjoying cause he's doing what he loves the most, and that's playing the freakin guitar and touring again. The man's doing what he likes to do, no wonder he's happy about it... And btw, all credits he gets are more than deserved, he didn't have to fight for credits even when Freddie was alive, and he sure as hell doesn't have to do that now. We all know Freddie was an awsome frontman, but we also know Brian's guitar playing is (besides Freddies vocals) the most important and the most recognisable thing that makes Queen's sound so unique and special, so much different from the others. So, no, I don't think he's enjoying today more than he did before, when Queen were still complete. |
| Bobby_brown 17.08.2005 13:54 |
Serry... wrote: Brian didn't say anything bad about Bo Rhap, but to be honest that "Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't a pivotal point in their career as a band" - yes, he said it. Though he means something other, not bad about BR actually. This quote is out of context. (I hope no-one would ask to ban me for this reply.....)Fingers crossed:)) You still have bad feelings about my coments in the other topic but i've already apologised to you, because i didn't think you would take that so personaly. Normally i don't react like that, but man, that discussion really upseted me, and you know why. In the end i answered your question about "I want it all" and "Mother Love" but i still have dificulties in reading the other posts by the other guy (you know who). What i think it's funny is that people that didn't read that topic are trying to bring that up again, and you send them the links for them to be carefull :)) lol No bad feelings, really... Take care |
| Sebastian 17.08.2005 17:55 |
> at all conferences, press statements, and accepting awards, even when Freddie was alive. Not all. There are several promotional trips Roger and John made etc > he actually cares what his fans and Queen fans think... Not so much. He is a very good promoter of his own image, and definitely he's more caring than many rock stars, but still, as Your Valentine pointed out, neither Roger nor himself deserve the fans they have. > pretty unusual and rare Not the first not the last > Don't forget that Roger Taylor is enjoying the spotlight too. Yes but not so much in terms of cash as Dr. Bri. For instance, You Don't Fool Me was released with Queen credit instead of Taylor/Mercury (compared with Mother Love), and in recent releases Invisible Man and Breakthru have been credited to the band as well, as opposed to IWIA. > i don't understant why suddenly we are trying to analyse everything Brian does, and turning it against him! It's not that way at all. I don't think it'd be fair to set Brian up for everything he did, but, as a music listener and a human being (i.e. citizen of the planet earth), I feel I've got the right to complain about what I feel unethic, like the use of the Queen name, the change of credits and stuff like that. Same as Sir Paul was unfair wanting to change the credits to McCartney/Lennon, but that's another story... > this site can be described as everything, but certainly not a Queen fan site. 1. Not only queen fans visit this forum. 2. Being a queen fan (or a queen supporter, or a queen addict, or a queen ocassional listener, whatever...) doesn't mean Brian has to be applauded for everything he does. |
| doremi 17.08.2005 18:17 |
Serry... wrote: Brenski and me were near the banning from QZ for having such opinion, you know... Let's not start it all again - find topic 'queen and paul rodgers' in General forum, there's a lot of thoughts about it.Hey..you forgot about me!!!! I took shit for raising Cain with you and Martin and I am DAMN PROUD OF IT!!!!!!!!!!! :D antiden wrote: I really think, that Brian is enjoying being "the main tool" in Queen nowadays. The more credits he gets - much more satisfied he gets! Guys, its so obvious!! Look, he is alreaday not that shy Brian that used to be in 71-91 period. He did change greatly within the past decade. I know a lot of fans who do not approve of his actions, comments or opinions at present. Sometimes he says really strange things, that contradict to what we used to know... Especially the fact, that Freddie was a fan of Paul Rodgers... What a bullshit! Nobody knew it untill 2004. Everything is done for commercial purposes mainly... And his comments concerning Bo Rha was not such a big deal for them... Are we so stupid?The interview that Brian said that BoRhap wasn't a pivotal point in Queen's career was this Spring's ''Uncut Magazine'' ''The Rise Of The Mighty Queen'' Cover Story I believe. I have that magazine and I can look for it if need be. Brian even ''exuberantly'' posted his own quotes (those very inflammatory quotes) on his website as well. Yes. What a tool. |
| Bobby_brown 17.08.2005 18:59 |
Sebastian wrote: > It's not that way at all. I don't think it'd be fair to set Brian up for everything he did, but, as a music listener and a human being (i.e. citizen of the planet earth), I feel I've got the right to complain about what I feel unethic, like the use of the Queen name, the change of credits and stuff like that. Same as Sir Paul was unfair wanting to change the credits to McCartney/Lennon, but that's another story...There we go again: You've got the right to complain about what you feel unethic, but in this case you simply don't know. I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows except the parts involved. So, you're been unethic when you acuse Brian of been unethic for something you don't know is unethic!! Queen are a corporation and Brian can't change things by himself (I think they all-John, Roger, Brian- need to agree on something). But this is even more ofensive to John or Roger, because you're saying that they're too blind to see what Brian's up to - he´s the evil one. I really love to see your examples like You don't fool me, and other's- let me ask you something: Where you there in the studio with them?- Was an interview that David Richard gave to a fan that led you to think that way? In this matter is better for all if you just assume that you don't know. Simple as that!! What Paul McCartney do is his business, and it's totally inapropriate to mixture the two matters, because thei're not the same, And i'm shure that the wifes of the dead members have lawers taking care of them! What i see in Brian's case, is that i never (NEVER) saw anyone complain about that, and believe me, in what concerns to money people do a lot of noise! I never heard a thing about this and the people at this board feel like they have to protect Freddie's rights or John's or ...whathevers. If the other guys don't complain why should you...Probably you're missinterpretating the facts... To put an end to this, i just say this: If tomorrow is proved that Brian's actions were unethical, i keep what i say, because what i allways said is that you don't judge a person's behaviour whit facts you don't know exists. With this topic people are just trying to put Brian's name down, and this is something that we never should do, whether is Brian or another humen being, and if you respect manking (as a citizen of the world) you probably agree with this. The society as it is, is reaching a point of total desrespect for human race. This kind of news in newspapers can destroy peoples lives, and they already did that. And when they discover that the news weren't true they just keep going, not caring about the person that they destroyed. So, i keep what i said before: To make a negative judgement about someone we have to be toatally shure about what we are saying, we have to have all the facts in our hands, and in this case who does? Take care |
| Sebastian 17.08.2005 20:24 |
> So, you're been unethic when you acuse Brian of been unethic for something you don't know is unethic!! They publicly said several times that they had agreed on creditting everything to Queen, no matter who came up with the song. When Brian broke that and put IWIA under his name, that's unethical in my book (although I'm aware that John and Roger must have approved that). Maybe John and Roger don't care about it, why should I?... well, that's my problem. It's not that I mean Brian should be executed because he put IWIA under his name, I just think it's unethical, period. Neither I'm trying to change your mind nor I'm willing to change mine. > Queen are a corporation and Brian can't change things by himself (I think they all-John, Roger, Brian- need to agree on something). I don't know, you don't know, only the parts involved. You got that one right, so it applies to that statement as well. > you're saying that they're too blind to see what Brian's up to - he´s the evil one. As I said, I'm not saying Brian is the anti-christ or a criminal. I just mean that THOSE actions (the name of the band, his surname in the song credits) are, IMHO, unethical. If some people (I'm not hinting you or anybody, just speaking in general) can't stand someone saying Brian isn't perfect, I'm sorry, I can't/won't/don't-want-to change anybody's mind, but I won't change mine either. > I really love to see your examples like You don't fool me, and other's Brian himself said he didn't take part in writting You Don't Fool Me (recently in his soapbox), in a similar way he confirmed (GVHII Audio Commentary) that Roger wrote Invisible Man and Breakthru, and Fred wrote The Miracle. And the story goes on. > If the other guys don't complain why should you... Again, I'm not saying Brian should be in prison or executed or anything. I think it's unethical, end of story. Just a comment: take it easy. > i allways said is that you don't judge a person's behaviour whit facts you don't know exists. > With this topic people are just trying to put Brian's name down, and this is something that we never should do, You're not buying your own story: if you're not supposed to judge a person's behaviour by assumptions, then why on earth are you assuming we're just trying to put Dr. May's name down? Can you get inside our minds? For me (as I indeed can read my mind), I'm not putting Brian's name down. Whoever think of him as a hero, a god or a divinity: congratulations. I'll NEVER do anything to try to convince him/her otherwise. Every person is entitled to their own opinion, and to express it, and I express mine: Brian has made some few unethical actions lately (which doesn't change the fact he's, imo, a good bloke and a nice person and an excellent musician etc etc) |
| Bobby_brown 17.08.2005 21:12 |
Sebastian wrote: > You're not buying your own story: if you're not supposed to judge a person's behaviour by assumptions, then why on earth are you assuming we're just trying to put Dr. May's name down? Can you get inside our minds? For me (as I indeed can read my mind), I'm not putting Brian's name down. Whoever think of him as a hero, a god or a divinity: congratulations. I'll NEVER do anything to try to convince him/her otherwise. Every person is entitled to their own opinion, and to express it, and I express mine: Brian has made some few unethical actions lately (which doesn't change the fact he's, imo, a good bloke and a nice person and an excellent musician etc etc)If you say he's making some unethical actions towards other people (Roger, John and Freddie estate) i don't see a higher reason for you to that. If you're not trying to put Brian name down, i don't understant what's the reason then. When it comes to denegrate someone's name we have to be totally shure about the facts we have! Do you own all the facts?- And to say that Roger and John didn't care about that, do you think they´re stupid? As i said before, we don't know what happened betweeen doors in the studio, and what type of agreement do they have. As you know everybody contributed to the songs in the last two albums, and probably "I want it all" was all made by Brian. I don't know, but one thing i'm shure, Roger and John are not stupid persons!! And by the way, Brian is not my hero, i say this about all the persons, not just about brian. For more information go read the topic Queen+Paul Rodgers and you'll see what i allways said. Take care |
| merc 18.08.2005 01:07 |
Little_Queenie: "he's enjoying cause he's doing what he loves the most, and that's playing the freakin guitar and touring again. The man's doing what he likes to do, no wonder he's happy about it..." Damn good point, criticism accepted. Didn't expect this topic to get so heated! Ah well, all part of the fun i suppose. *just for the future... sorry folks havnt been here long...how do you insert quotes?! (before anyone goes crazy at me i tried searching for it and couldnt find anything!) |
| Sebastian 18.08.2005 08:39 |
> If you say he's making some unethical actions towards other people (Roger, John and Freddie estate) I NEVER said those unethical actions were towards Roger, John or Fred. In fact, imo, those actions are unethical with himself, he's not being consequent with his own principles. But, as I said, it's my opinion, you're free to disagree. > If you're not trying to put Brian name down, i don't understant what's the reason then. To express my opinion, and my opinion, as said before, is that some (neither all nor most nor many nor a lot: SOME) of the things Dr. May has done lately are unethical. > When it comes to denegrate someone's name we have to be totally shure about the facts we have! 1. I'm not degenerating Brian's name, or tryng to 2. I'm completely sure that, for instance, Brian didn't contribute at all to You Don't Fool Me, Roger and John didn't contribute to Bijou, etc. In fact, Brian himself said that once Headlong was given to the band, they all had input, even if he was still the main lyric organiser. Still, Headlong is credited to him in recent releases. Of course it's not an unfair thing per se keeping in mind that Headlong is in fact his song, but it's unethical in the matter that it breaks the "pre-nuptial agreement". > And to say that Roger and John didn't care about that, do you think they´re stupid? I said "Maybe John and Roger don't care about it, why should I?". Keyword: MAYBE |
| Little_Queenie 18.08.2005 09:35 |
Bobby_brown wrote: As you know everybody contributed to the songs in the last two albums, and probably "I want it all" was all made by Brian.Hm, wasn't "I want it all" written by Freddie?? I'm 99,99% sure I watched this documentary where Brian talked about IWIA and I remember him saying something like this (not exact quote, but sure similar):"When Freddie first sang IWIA to me, I thought it was hilarious, one of his funniest lyrics.." Do any of you guys remember this?? It might be from the Champions, or Killer Queen documentary, but I'm not totally sure??? |
| Sebastian 18.08.2005 09:48 |
No way |
| Little_Queenie 18.08.2005 09:56 |
I'm gonna find it... grrrr |
| Serry... 18.08.2005 10:21 |
Sebastian, these facts and arguments about Mother Love and I Want It All weren't heard when I've put them... You can read those amazing fights (Brenski, Serry, Arlene Vs Bobby_Brown and the world) here: link |
| mike hunt 18.08.2005 10:43 |
i'm a huge brian may fan, but to be honest i have noticed him doing some things that make me think, queen rocks is a stand out to me, one freddie song? are you kidding me. where's "orge battle" or "liar" i'm not gonna go thru the whole list. decent, but not great songs like "tear it up" and "put out the fire" easily could have been replaced by some of freddie's heavy tracks. also this tour with paul, i noticed only 3 freddie songs, bo rap, love of my life, and champions. |
| Bobby_brown 18.08.2005 11:36 |
mike hunt wrote: i'm a huge brian may fan, but to be honest i have noticed him doing some things that make me think, queen rocks is a stand out to me, one freddie song? are you kidding me. where's "orge battle" or "liar" i'm not gonna go thru the whole list. decent, but not great songs like "tear it up" and "put out the fire" easily could have been replaced by some of freddie's heavy tracks. also this tour with paul, i noticed only 3 freddie songs, bo rap, love of my life, and champions.Whas Queen Rocks a compilation made by Brian May?- Because i remember him saying that they were aproached by EMI to do a compilation, and in the end they wanted to include major hits that were already on Greatest Hits collection. At the time he gave the impression that some songs he thought were better for this compilation couldn' t be included because EMI didn't think it would help to sell the CD. I can be wrong, though. It's almost 8 years. Take care |
| Bobby_brown 18.08.2005 11:41 |
Sebastian wrote: > If you say he's making some unethical actions towards other people (Roger, John and Freddie estate) I NEVER said those unethical actions were towards Roger, John or Fred. In fact, imo, those actions are unethical with himself, he's not being consequent with his own principles. But, as I said, it's my opinion, you're free to disagree.You don't need to say, or you may not have that intension at all, but if he's been unethic with copyright then you can read like he's unethical to the other 3 guys. They are the interested parts, and an unethical action on copyrights is going to prejudice the other ones. For more information read the link that Serry posted, because this is my last reply to this subject. Take care |
| deleted user 18.08.2005 12:46 |
I think there weren't a Queen + PR Tour if Brian wasn't still breathing on Queen. Remember how it became; Fenders 50th Aniversary. |
| mike hunt 18.08.2005 13:50 |
as far as brian trying to take over the band, the one thing i always noticed is, if you mention queen (in my area) the first response you get is, "oh, i love freddie mercury" rarely do i hear about the other three. my point? even if it's brian's idea to take over the queen name, it doesn't matter, freddie will always come to people's minds before brian. by the way, i'm not a freddie only guy, i'm a huge fan of all four. |
| doremi 18.08.2005 16:32 |
Beeny wrote: I think there weren't a Queen + PR Tour if Brian wasn't still breathing on Queen. Remember how it became; Fenders 50th Aniversary.I will probably get stoned for this...but I have been wanting to bring this up for quite some time.... ...being..I am sure that the fact that Brian knew, when it was publicly announced in July 2004, that Live Aid was FINALLY coming out for official release on DVD in November 2004,... ...and then he watched like a hawk, the international press reaction to Queen's performance...would Queen's 1985 Live Aid performance hold up and still captivate fans, press, etc..., ..and Brian saw the International press, other rock stars, fans, FALL all over Queen AGAIN.. ... and worldwide interest/awareness in Queen was hightened to an all time high level again, with the international press...and fans who bought and watched the DVD..stating unanimously...that Queen was the band that stole the show, how brillinat they were, yada yada.... ..the timing was perfect for THIS Queen+Paul Rodgers tour as well...like a now or never deal, let's ride this gravy train while the getting is good. And....don't tell me I'm wrong...In fact I cannot believe, and have watched and read this board and all of the interviews with Brian and Roger and NOT one person, fan, or press, ever..asked if the release of Live Aid was a factor in any way, in finally diciding to do a tour after 19 years. My proof, reasoning....A SLEW of artists who performed at Live Aid...who have since either had successful careers...or have NOT, some who haven't toured in years but NOW are, some have been dropped by their record labels and are NOW getting resigned to record labels, some who could not get their record labels to reissue their back catalog on CD/DVD, ETC... ...ALL INTENTIONALLY used and capitalized on the release of their performances at Live Aid on DVD, to reinvigorate their careers and get all of the above done... ...and ALL have OPENLY SAID SO, that they ARE capitalizing on the release of Live Aid on DVD as leverage for all of the above which they said in doing press for their new records, their new tours, their new record deals, the reissuing of their back catalog on CD/DVD, etc. ....These artists include, Status Quo, Adam Ant, Simple Minds, Bob Geldof WITH the Boomtown Rats, Duran Duran, etc........ ...So why has no one ever asked Brian or Roger this? I have thought it since the first tour announcement in what was it Nov/Dec. 2004? I'm not saying that the Fender show and the UK Hall Of Fame shows with Paul Rodgers weren't factors too...but I am sure that the release of Queen's landmark performance at Live Aid on DVD, finally, made the lighbulb go off in their heads, and most definitely in Brian's head. (who is never one to miss milking an opportunity..and why not when all the other artists I mentioned above did exactly that). Just don't know why he never mentioned it and no one else has. |
| deleted user 19.08.2005 05:17 |
I will probably get stoned for this...but I have been wanting to bring this up for quite some time....I am not going to stone you for this.... And maybe there is a truth in what you say... But I don't think they would have done it if they didn't feel like performing again... What they had before the Queen + PR tour, was time with them families, just sit down and earn doing not much, peace ... Doing nothing is a ly because Brian has worked with a lot of other artists, he had a few performances with DEF LEPPARD, Lynn Carrey, Katie Melua and I am quite sure there are other things which we don't have the knowledge off... He just enjoy to do something with his time. They have given that easy time up for hecting touring again... Touring is quite demanding and tiring and above all you can't have a proper rest as there are always fans and press people following them... I was at the concert in Cologne and some convinced me to go and stand waiting at the hotel the next day for some pics and autographs. I first didn't want, but let me talk into it... There weren't that many people as yesterday said someone (well there were about 20 or 40 of us, which is quite a lot to me). I did take pictures but after a few pics, I realised that this was going to far.... I'm quite ZEN, but I am quite sure I wouldn't have that much patient and knowing afterward what happened in London that day (London bumbing). There are fans who don't know them limits and they can go very far in the actions; like juste entering the hotel and going histerical.... -- I actualy believe the LIVE8 this years was not a last minute idea, but they didn't know weither they were going to succeed in something simular if not bigger than the last time... -- Maybe they could organise it again to help Niger out. |
| mike hunt 19.08.2005 17:11 |
i think beeny is a cute name, i wish my name was beeny, hi beeny. |
| doremi 20.08.2005 12:11 |
< Beeny Said...-- I actualy believe the LIVE8 this years was not a last minute idea, but they didn't know weither they were going to succeed in something simular if not bigger than the last time...> I agree with that too. I'm sure Geldof and Co. thought about this for quite some time but waited to do it and to ANNOUNCE it publicly, when they were certain thay had all their ducks in a row and that they could indeed pull it off and fans would indeed support it. .....QZ..as for Brian's infamos statement about ''Bohemian Rhapsody'' not being that pivotal, etc. in Queen's career, YES..it is from the March 2005 Uncut ''The Mighty Queen'' Cover Story/Interview with Brian.. ...and you can buy or read it republished, word for word here in the USA, reprinted in the current Queen Cover Story collectors edition of ''Guitar Legends'' by ''Guitar World'' ON PAGE 20! |
| deleted user 20.08.2005 13:06 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I agree with that too. I'm sure Geldof and Co. thought about this for quite some time but waited to do it and to ANNOUNCE it publicly, when they were certain thay had all their ducks in a row and that they could indeed pull it off and fans would indeed support it.Last year when I went to Media markt for a collection of cd's I saw the DVD of LIVE Aid and told to my mum that we could expect some 2 act of it.... My mum was laughting when they announced the LIVE8 concerts on the news in June...PREMINITION!!! If you have the DVD Greatest Hits 1 there is a BoRap part on it about the making of the song, the video... Brian gives a whole explanation about how they did the song recording... Within this video the guy ask him what the best song is he does reply "I don't know" he said that BoRap has contributed to their walk to fame, but does not say BoRap is the best song... I think that also Roger did say something simular. |
| RohemianBapsody 23.08.2005 16:49 |
IMHO ... Brian has always enjoyed the live aspect of his trade. This has been shown by his solo tour and also his guest appearances for other rock bands. When they decided to do WWRY, it gave Brian a chance to get the Queen catalogue out and start performing the songs again. This is probably why he enjoys being on stage at the Dominion at certain shows. The reason I think they have never toured before (and this has been stated by Brian on his website)is that both Brian and Roger have never found a lead singer to replace Freddie. When Brian and Paul were on stage together this is when Brian felt he had found the right singer and "the feeling was right" to go back touring. Also you need time to heal the wounds when a part of you dies, and also need to think something is going to work (even though it is not the same). That is one of the reasons I think that Robbie Williams was not chosen, as he did not fit in properly. I do not think it has anything to do with Live Aid as Arlene states, as WWRY was already a huge hit and from my statements before about Brain always enjoying the live part of being a musician. |
| Grantcdn 23.08.2005 21:41 |
wow...so many comments.... In a nutshell I really don't know how anyone can criticize Brian.....it was him that always was refusing to play for so many years after 1991....if they wanted to milk it....1992, 1993, 1994 would have been the time.... I'm just so glad now that Roger and Brian have the opportunity to do what they have loved doing since their 20s....this is their life....why should anything prevent them from doing what they do, their love, their skills, and their profession.... For the person who was saying they don't believe Freddie liked Paul Rodgers...I think that's a joke....he liked Jimi Hendrix, he liked Robert Plant....he liked good rock singers and Paul is a fantastic rock singer...it seems only logical...and like someone on here knows more about Freddie than Brian and Roger (somehow I don't think so).... Also so many people (Slash most recently) cite Brian as one of the most under-rated artists ever...so I think it's only right that he should get some credit....he is one of the best ever....just look at We Will Rock You (the song)- it is even more recognizable around the world than Bohemian Rhapsody.....Brian was a lot of the brains and talent around Queen's repetoire. Just think how empty Queen's songs would be if you just put in some session guitarist....Brian and Roger were a HUGE part of Queen and are the only ones around to keep this thing going....Good for them and even better for us!! BRIAN ROCKS! ROGER ROCKS! QUEEN ROCKS! and QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS ROCKS!! |
| deleted user 24.08.2005 12:32 |
RohemianBapsody wrote: IMHO ... Brian has always enjoyed the live aspect of his trade. This has been shown by his solo tour and also his guest appearances for other rock bands. When they decided to do WWRY, it gave Brian a chance to get the Queen catalogue out and start performing the songs again. This is probably why he enjoys being on stage at the Dominion at certain shows. The reason I think they have never toured before (and this has been stated by Brian on his website)is that both Brian and Roger have never found a lead singer to replace Freddie. When Brian and Paul were on stage together this is when Brian felt he had found the right singer and "the feeling was right" to go back touring. Also you need time to heal the wounds when a part of you dies, and also need to think something is going to work (even though it is not the same). That is one of the reasons I think that Robbie Williams was not chosen, as he did not fit in properly. I do not think it has anything to do with Live Aid as Arlene states, as WWRY was already a huge hit and from my statements before about Brain always enjoying the live part of being a musician.I do Agree! We asiume something and we think it's the truth but we can't actualy not arguing about things like that as we don't know what they think, they feel.... And in my believe as long the concernt ppl are enjoying, than we should respect. I think Brian knows better than anyone what to do for himself! By the way it's not Brians first co-operation with Paul Rodgers. Paul was envited to many of Brians solo concerts and according some information I have, he worked with them on the Armenia Aid project. And according my mum Paul is the best (but then my mum is huge Free fan) |
| RohemianBapsody 24.08.2005 18:28 |
Beeny wrote: I do Agree! We asiume something and we think it's the truth but we can't actualy not arguing about things like that as we don't know what they think, they feel.... And in my believe as long the concernt ppl are enjoying, than we should respect. I think Brian knows better than anyone what to do for himself! By the way it's not Brians first co-operation with Paul Rodgers. Paul was envited to many of Brians solo concerts and according some information I have, he worked with them on the Armenia Aid project. And according my mum Paul is the best (but then my mum is huge Free fan)It ,might have been that Brian was still grieving when Paul anf Brian initially go together, and that Brian did not feel the time was right. |
| freesia 26.08.2005 10:45 |
I think that because its always been the case that both Brian and Roger have wanted to tour, that Brian has had no option but to move forward on the stage if they were to tour again. Put in Brians shoes, with the loss of Freddie, Roger and himself both doing solo work, taking into account the 2 deaths in Brians family plus his relationship problems, he could not be faulted for thinking the following: In order to get Queen back on the road, at all, before Roger gets further away from it, I have to take over at the front end somewhat! With John not coming back, us two must stick together else Queen will definately be no more. Also the age of the guys MUST come into it, how much longer will they be able to do it? After realising Paul Rogers could be the man to join them, relieving Brian on vocals, and allowing him to get back to mainly what he likes best, I suppose it probably snowballed from there with Spike joining them etc etc. I think Brian certainly does love what he does, and shows it, and lets face it who the hell wouldnt? Same goes for Roger, and Paul Rodgers, perhaps John thinks differently, which hes entitled to do. I think, with Live Aid it was probably Freddie who thought, now here is an opportunity, and in typical Freddie style Queens slot had to be perfection, hence the rehearsals, he knew it would bring them back to the fore, and he also knew that noone else could shift Wembley Stadium like they could, and he was right, on both counts. I didnt realise though that it had done that much for Adam Ant? Last I saw of him, his former self was hiding somewhere within the larger version! Somehow, I couldnt imagine him coming back on stage doing Prince Charming! |
| deleted user 27.08.2005 05:09 |
point taken freesia |
| spymyshadow 27.08.2005 10:09 |
If brian is enjoing now the spotlight is simply because he is the only one left with roger to be what remains of Queen. Still, when Freddie was alive, I did not get the impression he resented not being the frontman, on the contrary he always managed to be heard if he had something to say. All the same he would be a great frontman if he toured alone with roger, and he would deserve being adored as he is now. |
| The Real Wizard 01.09.2005 04:17 |
Krizzy wrote: Brian is a very unusual rock star no matter how you slice it, he actually cares what his fans and Queen fans think...how many rock stars give a sh*t what any of their fans think or respect thier opinionsTo add to that... Brian, after hearing the story about a fan who was caught in traffic and as a result missed a UK gig, sent him free tickets to the July Hyde Park concert. How many rock stars would do that for a fan? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 01.09.2005 16:15 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Yeah, but if you asked Area 51 Arlene, she'd tell you that Brian only offered the tickets so he could get more glory than Roger, and thought he probably made money off of them that he's hiding from Freddie's estate. (Sorry Arlene, but your posts on Brian's profiteering, your ridiculous Live Aid theory and especially the Bulsara family not commenting on their unhappiness with the tour because they're profiting are all totally speculative and in the last instance, crass.)Krizzy wrote: Brian is a very unusual rock star no matter how you slice it, he actually cares what his fans and Queen fans think...how many rock stars give a sh*t what any of their fans think or respect thier opinionsTo add to that... Brian, after hearing the story about a fan who was caught in traffic and as a result missed a UK gig, sent him free tickets to the July Hyde Park concert. How many rock stars would do that for a fan? |