QueenZone discussion #602898
why does every one hate paul rodgers
| queen44 12.08.2005 18:42 |
why does everyone hate paul rodgers i mean who would you want queen to sing for them seen as you criticise everyone who sings a queen song like robbie williams and now people r getting really childish that album covers fine if it was freddie you would say its great |
| Mr Mercury 12.08.2005 19:07 |
Firstly, you've posted this in the wrong forum. But I shall just assume that you are new here and ignore that fact. Secondly, "everyone" here doesnt hate Paul Rodgers - some of us like him singing and some others dont. Another subject that was discussed here some time ago and lead to some petty arguments. Thirdly, I also assume that you are talking of the Return Of The Champions cover. Yes it is shite and I personally would have said so even if Freddie was alive and picked it. |
| bokkepoot 12.08.2005 19:10 |
Not a discussion for the "sharing the music" section I guess. I like Paul Rodgers. He is a brave man and a magnificant singer and musician. Okay.....it is not Freddie, but Paul and the other guys have created a new Queen in my opinion. |
| DrumBrother 12.08.2005 20:08 |
I've been a Paul fan for years and was thrilled to hear he was going to sing with my fave band. Saw four shows on the tour, which were stunning. I had seen Queen four times but had never seen Paul so it was a special treat for me. I wish people would accept it for what it is, a singerless band who craved playing live, who just happen to have picked one of the all time greats to do it with. I for one hope they come back this way (Ireland) again. |
| Mercury Poisoning 12.08.2005 20:47 |
I agree with you all! I do not hate Paul Rodgers. He's a brilliant singer! But please .... come on .... don't use the name Queen anymore! Simply because it isn't Queen anymore! Make albums as much as you can, give concerts as much as you like but ....... not use the name Queen! Queen was; Freddie Mercury, Brian May, Roger Taylor & John Deacon! |
| john bodega 13.08.2005 02:03 |
John Deacon doesn't count. As good a bass player as he was, he's a bedwetter. Retire? Hah! My real admiration goes out to rock and roll stars who are up on stage until they drop dead - I've been let down every time because not one of my heroes has continued playing on stage until they need a cane or a walking frame or something. The day I see someone do that, I will be a happy man. |
| Serry... 13.08.2005 03:18 |
No-one hates him. Just some guys can't accept the idea of using him in Queen music. |
| The prophet's song 13.08.2005 05:04 |
Zebonka12 wrote: John Deacon doesn't count. As good a bass player as he was, he's a bedwetter. Retire? Hah! My real admiration goes out to rock and roll stars who are up on stage until they drop dead - I've been let down every time because not one of my heroes has continued playing on stage until they need a cane or a walking frame or something. The day I see someone do that, I will be a happy man.JOHN DOES COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you haven't noticed, Queen hit the big time only when they had John on bass, not the other nobodys before him. |
| onevsion 13.08.2005 07:38 |
bokkepoot wrote: Not a discussion for the "sharing the music" section I guess. I like Paul Rodgers. He is a brave man and a magnificant singer and musician. Okay.....it is not Freddie, but Paul and the other guys have created a new Queen in my opinion.I fully agree with you |
| pka50f2 13.08.2005 08:00 |
Well, I think Paul Rodgers keeps singing in his own style without trying to imitate Freddie. He sings rather pretty good to my opinion. His style is just different from Freddie's. Some says they shouldn't use Queen name but many bands changing musicians does that every time. For example, Deep Purple who has changed three times of singer... I don't know if it's good or bad, should they change the band's name as soon as they change one musician (drummer, guitarist or else) ? |
| don't_stop_me_now 9697 13.08.2005 08:47 |
Not everyone here hate Paul Rodgers. It's just the fact the people who hate him are more noticable here. I don´t start a thread to talk about how good Pual Rodgers is. |
| Mercuryworks 13.08.2005 09:03 |
kiwi_queen_bean wrote:This was SarcasmZebonka12 wrote: John Deacon doesn't count. As good a bass player as he was, he's a bedwetter. Retire? Hah! My real admiration goes out to rock and roll stars who are up on stage until they drop dead - I've been let down every time because not one of my heroes has continued playing on stage until they need a cane or a walking frame or something. The day I see someone do that, I will be a happy man.JOHN DOES COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you haven't noticed, Queen hit the big time only when they had John on bass, not the other nobodys before him. |
| bigdaddyb 13.08.2005 09:36 |
you gotta look at it for what it is....it's not Queen...It's Queen + Paul Rodgers big difference so I don't look at it as Queen replacing Freddie at all. Without John I feel the Queen name is odd to use but like Kiss Gene and Paul still use the name without Peter and Ace. Either way it's cool to see the band out there even if for only one more tour |
| Sharon G. 13.08.2005 10:48 |
I certainly dont hate Paul. But PLEASE dont' call yourself Queen. No Freddie, No john, No Queen.It's that simple guys. |
| dansto 13.08.2005 11:53 |
well i don't hate him, but his sings like he's at a karaoke show. |
| dixie 13.08.2005 12:32 |
i think he sang them pretty well |
| fjac1980 13.08.2005 14:03 |
I like the shows with Paul Rodgers playing Queen Songs, I like the idea of Brian, Roger and paul making new records. BUT "Queen is Jhon Deacon, Freddie Mercury, Roger Taylor and Brian May. The rest is, of course, other history". |
| on my way up 13.08.2005 15:07 |
All people that post here are great queen-fans and they are of course really big freddie-fans.They don't want the world to forget about him,because he's the best.Most of us agree upon this point.I think some fear that the world might forget freddie though and that some people will say:paul rodgers is better.It's that fear that makes them say bad things about paul altough he IS a great singer and performer and he does justice do the queen-songs in his own way.Not many people can pull that off I think.I really have a huge amount of respect for aswell roger and brian as paul because they just give the fans what they want and they show a lot of admiration for freddie and always say that it is a whole lot different now.They just make great music for great people like us:-)And i always feel freddie is there!!! |
| donovana34 14.08.2005 10:45 |
I think Paul Rogers does a fantastic job on the songs. Now I'll say up front when I first heard that Paul Rogers was gonna be singing, I just put my head down, and wwent oh dear, oh no. I downloaded a show from the new tour, played the hell out of it, and slowly my mind began to change. The one fact I am having a hard time getting past, is Paul's bluse ffeel that he aadds to the music. Brian and Roger say they love it, but iI wish it were just straight ahead rock vocals. What I worry about, and you American queen fans might want to start thinking about this, is how the new line up is going to be perceived in Noarth America. I hate to say it, but I suspect overall they won't be received well, and when that happens, I don't think you'll see them over here again. Any thoughts anyone? |
| Cool_Cat 14.08.2005 11:40 |
Zebonka12 wrote: John Deacon doesn't count. As good a bass player as he was, he's a bedwetter. Retire? Hah! My real admiration goes out to rock and roll stars who are up on stage until they drop deadFirst of all, John Deacon does count as a member of Queen. He was there for the whole thing. I suppose you have admiration for the Rolling Stones? Ok, maybe admiration is warranted, if you admire the desire to make a lot of money pumping out the same garbage for 40 years. No offense to the Stones fans out there, it's just my opinion that I share with most everyone that I know. Secondly, I agree that they shouldn't be Queen. It's like when Jerry Garcia died. The band goes on, but they are called The Dead. It's not The Grateful Dead anymore. With that said, I havn't heard any of Paul Rogers yet. I intend to find something to download. As I was watching the tribute, it was really touching to hear all these artists play with the band in honor of Freddie, but one artist stood out. I felt this guy would be a suitable replacement if that's the way they were heading. That guy was George Michaels. Michael |
| Mercury Poisoning 14.08.2005 13:53 |
Again ......... I totally agree! Well spoken Cool_Cat! |
| isly 14.08.2005 14:05 |
on my way up wrote: All people that post here are great queen-fans and they are of course really big freddie-fans.They don't want the world to forget about him,because he's the best.Most of us agree upon this point.I think some fear that the world might forget freddie though and that some people will say:paul rodgers is better.It's that fear that makes them say bad things about paul altough he IS a great singer and performer and he does justice do the queen-songs in his own way.Not many people can pull that off I think.I really have a huge amount of respect for aswell roger and brian as paul because they just give the fans what they want and they show a lot of admiration for freddie and always say that it is a whole lot different now.They just make great music for great people like us:-)And i always feel freddie is there!!!DEAR, WHEN QUEEN BEGAN TO LIVE, THE STYLE OF THAT MUSIC WAS CONNECTED WITH A PRECISE CONCEPT OF MUSICAL AND DETAILED BEHAVIOUR. QUEEN STYLE IS THE RISULT OF A PERSONAL AND TRADITIONAL OPINION OF BRITISH WAY OF LIFE. QUEEN WAS EXACTLY TYPICAL ENGLISH. PAUL RODGER SEEM TO BRING THEM TO OTHER ROADS. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY CHANGED THE NAME IN "COWS". THAT'S PERFECT TO DEFINE ANOTHER MUSICAL STYLE, WHICH BRIAN MAY AND ROGER TAYLOR NOW ARE GOING TO SAIL....YOU'RE SAILING THESE NEW AMERICAN SEAS. |
| kyassor 14.08.2005 16:53 |
fjac1980 wrote: BUT "Queen is Jhon Deacon, Freddie Mercury, Roger Taylor and Brian May. The rest is, of course, other history".Freddie is dead (you might have seen something in the papers)- 'Jhon' has chosen not to join in - do you want Brian & Roger to give up too ? |
| kyassor 14.08.2005 17:04 |
Cool_Cat wrote: [/QUOTENAME I havn't heard any of Paul Rogers yet. I intend to find something to download. As I was watching the tribute, it was really touching to hear all these artists play with the band in honor of Freddie, but one artist stood out. I felt this guy would be a suitable replacement if that's the way they were heading. That guy was George Michaels. MichaelThere have been many downloads available on here - try listening to one of those - as you were watching the tribute you've had a long time to think about it. By the way, get Michael's name right, your's is the same literature(?)-wise George Michael would be a great Freddie replacement - but I don't think George Michael would be a great replacement for Freddie in Queen - Queen is a band, George Michael is a solo artist. |
| Cool_Cat 15.08.2005 04:31 |
kyassor wrote: There have been many downloads available on here - try listening to one of those - as you were watching the tribute you've had a long time to think about it. By the way, get Michael's name right, your's is the same literature(?)-wise George Michael would be a great Freddie replacement - but I don't think George Michael would be a great replacement for Freddie in Queen - Queen is a band, George Michael is a solo artist.Ok, so I got his name wrong. He's not my favorite artist in the world. Wham was far from what I considered good music. In my post, also mentioned that the band shouldn't be called Queen anymore. What makes Paul Rodgers any different from George "Michael"? It's just not Queen to me without Freddie and John. As far as not hearing any of Paul Rodgers yet goes, I had been listening to Queen since 78. When Freddie passed on, so did the band, in my mind. To be honest with you, I didn't even know that Brian and Roger went on to making more music. Before you flame me for this, the internet is somewhat of a new thing since Freddie died. I haven't been using it to keep up with my lost love for Queen until this past week. Michael |
| isly 15.08.2005 07:01 |
kyassor wrote:NOBODY WANTS ROGER AND BRIAN TO GIVE UP, OBVIOUSLY.....IT'S UP TO WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO AUDIENCE.....SINCE FRED DIED THEY SEEM TO DECLARE A REAL LACK OF CREATIVENESS....THAT'S ALLfjac1980 wrote: BUT "Queen is Jhon Deacon, Freddie Mercury, Roger Taylor and Brian May. The rest is, of course, other history".Freddie is dead (you might have seen something in the papers)- 'Jhon' has chosen not to join in - do you want Brian & Roger to give up too ? |
| A Word In Your Ear 15.08.2005 07:37 |
Hi, I don't think everyone hates Paul Rogers, Just that it's taking some time to get used to anyone singing in freddie's place.(well who could replace Freddie? NO ONE!!!!) but all said I think Paul's doing a fine job. I've seen the show 5 times already, Starting at Brixton & ending (so far) at Hyde Park & I think his singing voice is getting better each time as he is getting more comfortable with the Queen Songs. No problem with his own songs as he knows the off by heart. Now the thing is, would Brian & Roger have taken on such a tour with out a lead singer? alright, we all now Brian & Roger have done their solo tours, but nothing as grand as this, I would say. Wake up guys, although it's hard for me to say, Freddie's not coming back :( The question is, Should I have sat at home moping about how great freddie was, or go to the gigs, enjoy myself, have real great time & enjoy it for what it is. WELL 5 TIMES TO THE SHOW ALREADY, SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!! I don't want to go and see the Rolling Stones, no more, no more, I don't want to go and see Queen, no more, no more, (Not!!!! I'll always be there!!!) |
| Mantrashak 15.08.2005 12:53 |
Brian and Roger are the 2 original members of the band. They virtually set up Queen between them (with Freddie replacing Tim Staffel and John being the last to join). Freddie is no longer with us and so is unable to perform. John chooses not to perform. Brian and Roger want to continue. And why not? They achieved a lot of success under the "Queen" name, and I see no reason for them not to continue using it. Paul Rogers is something of an experiment. Maybe Queen will continue with him, maybe not. Will be interesting to see what develops! |
| [ Wybren™ ] 15.08.2005 13:13 |
Sharon G. wrote: I certainly dont hate Paul. But PLEASE dont' call yourself Queen. No Freddie, No john, No Queen.It's that simple guys.Echo... And btw Paul is a fantastic singer! |
| tomyorenes 15.08.2005 17:29 |
Truth is that NOONE can replace Freddie because there can be only one. Paul is just singing some Queen songs that need to be played. I´m from Spain and my only chance to see Queen on stage was last april the 1st, in Madrid. I'm thankful to them because of that. I think that Paul does justice to those songs, and Queen + Paul Rodgers lets all of us remember how big Freddie was. I don't like Paul Rodgers specially but I must admit that I enjoyed the show. Call the new band the way you want but Queen are FREDDIE MERCURY, JOHN DEACON, BRIAN MAY & ROGER TAYLOR. THE SHOW MUST GO ON |
| deleted user 16.08.2005 07:26 |
tomyorenes wrote: Truth is that NOONE can replace Freddie because there can be only one.NObody can replace nobody in my opinion... every single one is unique... You can put someone in the same place, but in reality it's never going to be the same... This does not only count for Freddie, but also for the other members I guess this argument about the queen + pr concert is going to be an never ending story... |
| bobmaster 16.08.2005 18:54 |
Oh come on, anybody who was willing to try and fill in for the great Freddie has to be admired, and Paul is doing a great job. What I would like to know is, any of the people who are criticizing Paul Rodgers, have you actually been to one of the new concerts? Or are you simply critisizing someone you have never even seen live just because you automatically decided you didn't like him? |
| Mercury Poisoning 16.08.2005 21:11 |
As you can read before, I like the sound of Rodgers! There's only one BIG thing i'm disappointed of; the name QUEEN. Don't use it again. QUEEN deserved this name due to Freddie, Brian, Roger and John! Not to Paul Rodgers. So if they want to form a band again, let them name theirself Return of the fucking Pointer Sisters, Maywood, Spicegirls again ..... but NOT Queen!!!! And if you don't (want) to understand that ...... pity you! |
| deleted user 17.08.2005 04:56 |
bobmaster wrote: Oh come on, anybody who was willing to try and fill in for the great Freddie has to be admired, and Paul is doing a great job. What I would like to know is, any of the people who are criticizing Paul Rodgers, have you actually been to one of the new concerts? Or are you simply critisizing someone you have never even seen live just because you automatically decided you didn't like him?Don't understand me wrong.I wasn't saying that Rodger isn't good... I actualy like his music and style very much, I would be rather pro than contra... What I wanted to say is that you can put him in his place but he is never going to be Freddie! Does not mean that he is no good, cause in my opinion he is brilliant, just in a diffrent way. Ex.: I don't know what your job is or activities, well somebody might take over your place, but he is never going to be you... He won't do the job or activities like you do (in the same way you do). Reason because he is a diffrent person. Does not mean he isn't as caresmatic as you or you as him... He has just another way to express his feelings or action because they are already diffrent in his view... To me it is very special that Paul Rodgers joint up with Queen, as my mum is a very big FREE fan and me being a big Queen fan. He is amazing... My opinion about weither they should call them Queen: As long as the remaining members feel themself as Queen it's OK to me. It's actualy up to them to choose the right way and what ever they choose it is the right way because it is them performing (and not us). Other like someone said before it is Queen + Paul Rodgers, meaning he has his own role and Queen have them role and together they make a team (and to me they make a great team).... There is in anycase been mantioned that he is the replacement of Freddie within the Queen camp. I went to the Queen concert in Koln and I had a lovely time. It was a brilliant concert to me. And even before and after the show. They've still got that magic, it's just a diffrent kind of magic and as good as with Freddie. |