King_of_Queens 10.08.2005 11:55 |
Hi Is there any picture that exists that was taken in the 70's or 80's with Freddie and Paul Rodgers coincidentally together? If so, can somebody post it... Thanks |
Fenderek 10.08.2005 12:10 |
Unless there was a photographer witnessing the fact taht Queen and Paul Rodgers passed each other on the stairs to Peter Grant's office in 1975- there's no picture... According to Paul that's the only time they ever met... |
bryans permed poodle 15069 10.08.2005 16:41 |
King_of_Queens wrote: Hi Is there any picture that exists that was taken in the 70's or 80's with Freddie and Paul Rodgers coincidentally together? If so, can somebody post it... ThanksNo picture available, Freddie was not a big Paul Rodgers fan, bit like me really. |
Ayreon 11.08.2005 02:22 |
Fraddie was indeed a big Paul Rodgers fan, check out the 2005 tour interviews from Bri and Rog. |
Fenderek 11.08.2005 03:22 |
Don't listen to BPP- he's talking shit most of the time... |
Tero 11.08.2005 03:48 |
Didn't we discuss this earlier? :/ Was anybody actually able to provide a quote where Freddie mentioned Paul/Free/Bad Co, or are the only references by Brian in those QPR tour marketing interviews? |
The King Of Rhye 11.08.2005 03:55 |
I doubt such a thing even exists, but just maybe there might be a pic of Brian and Paul together from the time Smile and Free played a bill together? |
Serry... 11.08.2005 05:41 |
There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point. |
Ayreon 11.08.2005 07:18 |
I have no reason to assume Brian would lie about this. |
Tero 11.08.2005 07:25 |
Ayreon wrote: I have no reason to assume Brian would lie about this.Money? It's good publicity to claim that Freddie liked the new singer. It's bad publicity to admit that he didn't even want to listen to Paul when he was alive. :P |
Wilki Amieva 11.08.2005 07:27 |
Well, Freddie was indeed a Paul Rodgers fan, but he was not into that kind of music anymore by 1983. But if you listen to the IBEX tape, you will find references to Paul. |
Nuno 11.08.2005 07:36 |
I'm sure Brian and Roger knew if Freddie liked Paul Rodgers/Free etc,etc Not us and does it really matter anyway |
Tero 11.08.2005 07:58 |
Nuno wrote: I'm sure Brian and Roger knew if Freddie liked Paul Rodgers/Free etc,etc Not us and does it really matter anywayI guess it matters to people who are trying to justify for themselves why Paul has replaced Freddie... I can live with THAT, but I would be offended by Brian rewriting the history. |
Fenderek 11.08.2005 08:07 |
I can live with THAT, but I would be offended by Brian rewriting the history.The thing is- you don't know thje history. Same way I don't know. The fact that Freddie never mentioned it in the early years doesn't prove it's not true. Neither I (who is very happy with this collaboration) nor BPP (or anyone who doesn't like it) know anything really. It's all speculation and using this as an argument one way or another is at least pretentious. You don't know what Freddie liked back in 1972. And I don't know. It could have been Paul Rodgers, it could have been Frank Sinatra. It could have been anyone. I know one thing- Freddie liked people who really could sing- Aretha Franklin, Montserrat, Edith Piaff... Paul Rodgers IS "The Voice"... One more thing- Fred was sucha huge fan of Aretha and just recently there was a huge concert with all those blues and soul singers (Aretha included)- the only white singer there was Paul Rodgers, as probably the only one who can sing this way... Of course it doesn't prove anything, exactly the same as the fact that there's no quote with freddie saying "I love Paul". He didn't do that many interviews in 1972, did he? |
Rompez 11.08.2005 08:13 |
Great post Fenderek! Ibex/Wreckage were semi-amateur bluesrock bands And they were obviously Free influenced. Don't forget that Free was as big as Zeppelin or Who at that time (late 60's - early 70's). So it's also obvious that Paul had important role in forming Freddie’s early style... But I don't think that Freddie was Paul's fan in a way of most people here are fans of Queen. If you understand what I mean. :D |
Lord Blackadder 11.08.2005 08:14 |
Serry... wrote: There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point.Jesus. You people are idiots. Did you know Freddie? No. None of us did. Brian May, now he did know Freddie. If he says Freddie was a fan of Rodgers, then Freddie was a fan of Rodgers. Because YOUR not, doesn't mean Freddie wasn't. And because you can't find a quote doesn't mean it wasn't said does it? Do you think everything Freddie ever said was written down? You people are weirdo's. You can't handle change. How are you gonna get through life if you can't handle change? Obsession isn't good. If all you do is think and talk about Freddie all day you need to get out of the house. As good as Freddie was, he wasn't that good. No one is THAT good. |
Sharon G. 11.08.2005 08:19 |
Paul rodgers does not belong in any picture with Freddie. He is not in the same league as Freddie. Freddie lives on in the hearts of Queen fans everywhere. And we miss him...... |
Serry... 11.08.2005 08:23 |
Lord Blackadder wrote:I'm not gonna reply to you and explain what I think and why I think in the such way. Please don't worry about my 'idiotic' life, Mr Know-All.Serry... wrote: There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point.Jesus. You people are idiots. Did you know Freddie? No. None of us did. Brian May, now he did know Freddie. If he says Freddie was a fan of Rodgers, then Freddie was a fan of Rodgers. Because YOUR not, doesn't mean Freddie wasn't. And because you can't find a quote doesn't mean it wasn't said does it? Do you think everything Freddie ever said was written down? You people are weirdo's. You can't handle change. How are you gonna get through life if you can't handle change? Obsession isn't good. If all you do is think and talk about Freddie all day you need to get out of the house. As good as Freddie was, he wasn't that good. No one is THAT good. |
Tero 11.08.2005 08:25 |
Fenderek wrote: It's all speculation and using this as an argument one way or another is at least pretentious.That's certainly true... It would be nice to know for certain, but Brian doesn't really make it easy for us. To ME it sounds pretentious when Brian throws in a previously unknown fact just in time to promote the upcoming tour. It doesn't really help that I've been let down by recent Queen projects, and I've been pointing my finger to the person in charge... :P Despite all that, I'll be more than happy to hear something to confirm his words, or anything else to restore my faith in QP! |
Q-Nick 11.08.2005 09:14 |
Sharon G. wrote: Paul rodgers does not belong in any picture with Freddie. He is not in the same league as Freddie. Freddie lives on in the hearts of Queen fans everywhere. And we miss him......Not all this again....... |
Fenderek 11.08.2005 09:15 |
she's like a broke..oke..oke..oke...oken record... |
Rompez 11.08.2005 09:28 |
This tread is the essence why I hate queenzone sometimes ... |
doremi 11.08.2005 11:00 |
Tero wrote:Ayreon wrote: I have no reason to assume Brian would lie about this.Money? It's good publicity to claim that Freddie liked the new singer. It's bad publicity to admit that he didn't even want to listen to Paul when he was alive. :P Serry... wrote: There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point.Have to say I agree with this too. I certainly can't speak for Freddie, but in the gazillions of interviews with him, even as his influences that he cited changed...God I think I even recall Freddie in 1 interview in the mid 80's saying he liked Culture Club, well they were a new artist on the music scene at that time so he cited them, and of course there are those he repeatedly mentioned/cited such as Hendrix, Aretha Franklin, Liza Minelli, Montserrat Caballe,... ...but never, not even once have I ever read or heard Freddie so much as mention Paul Rodgers, Free, Bad Company. I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion) |
Sharon G. 11.08.2005 11:11 |
Right On Arlene! |
Erin 11.08.2005 11:45 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion)I would buy that. It's probably best that Brian and Roger didn't pick someone that Freddie really was a fan of for the tour..;-) |
doremi 11.08.2005 11:55 |
Erin wrote:Erin, I know you're kidding..BUT..really...who the hell were Brian and Roger going to get otherwise.Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion)I would buy that. It's probably best that Brian and Roger didn't pick someone that Freddie really was a fan of for the tour..;-) I don't think (last I heard) that Hendrix was in a state physically capable of fronting this tour ;-) and of course Aretha, Liza, Montserrat are not exactly people who though many of us love them, would be appropriate to front Queen... ..so Brian and Roger had to think this through and find someone who could do it and be as faithful to Queen's songs and the rock vibe as possible..but because Freddie's legacy is so huge and he is so beloved and was such an amazing talent, obviously, Brian and Roger wanted to assure as little dissent from Queen fans about their choice as possible. But...I mean if you like, we can always put in our 2 cents worth that Liza, Aretha, or Montserrat should have fronted this tour. ;-) You never know, they probably could sing hell out of TSMGO and WATC! LOL! |
Erin 11.08.2005 12:01 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: But...I mean if you like, we can always put in our 2 cents worth that Liza, Aretha, or Montserrat should have fronted this tour. ;-) You never know, they probably could sing hell out of TSMGO and WATC! LOL!Yeah, and they would've brought down the house singin' Fat Bottomed Girls, I'd imagine..;-) |
doremi 11.08.2005 12:12 |
Erin wrote:You know that VH1 show they do once every year, ''Divas Live'', (which Aretha has been on!), well yeah...I think that's what Brian and Roger should have done. To hell with Paul Rodgers!Arlene R. Weiss wrote: But...I mean if you like, we can always put in our 2 cents worth that Liza, Aretha, or Montserrat should have fronted this tour. ;-) You never know, they probably could sing hell out of TSMGO and WATC! LOL!Yeah, and they would've brought down the house singin' Fat Bottomed Girls, I'd imagine..;-) Actually get all 3, Liza, Aretha, and Montserrat, doing the 2005 Queen+Divas Live Tour, with Jimi Hendrix's brother (whose name eludes me, also a guitarist) playing rhythm guitar. Freddie would have loved it! ;-) |
bryans permed poodle 15069 11.08.2005 13:20 |
Ayreon wrote: Fraddie was indeed a big Paul Rodgers fan, check out the 2005 tour interviews from Bri and Rog.I do not believe them |
Rompez 11.08.2005 13:29 |
And who believes to a poodle? I don't. By the way Freddie loved cats, not dogs. P.S. I just using the same kind of arguments as BPP. |
bryans permed poodle 15069 11.08.2005 13:36 |
Lord Blackadder wrote:Again just for you Blackadder who finds very difficult to understand the most basic things in life.Serry... wrote: There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point.Jesus. You people are idiots. Did you know Freddie? No. None of us did. Brian May, now he did know Freddie. If he says Freddie was a fan of Rodgers, then Freddie was a fan of Rodgers. Because YOUR not, doesn't mean Freddie wasn't. And because you can't find a quote doesn't mean it wasn't said does it? Do you think everything Freddie ever said was written down? You people are weirdo's. You can't handle change. How are you gonna get through life if you can't handle change? Obsession isn't good. If all you do is think and talk about Freddie all day you need to get out of the house. As good as Freddie was, he wasn't that good. No one is THAT good. It is on record (Read various books about Freddie)that his idols were: Hendrix Prince Liza Minelli John Lennon |
bryans permed poodle 15069 11.08.2005 13:38 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Best post in the last 5 yearsTero wrote:Ayreon wrote: I have no reason to assume Brian would lie about this.Money? It's good publicity to claim that Freddie liked the new singer. It's bad publicity to admit that he didn't even want to listen to Paul when he was alive. :PSerry... wrote: There's no any Freddie's quotes about Paul I'm afraid..... And I'm afraid that Freddie has never been Paul's fan..... And I was very sad when I heard how Brian said it. And I'm afraid again that I agree with BPP on this point.Have to say I agree with this too. I certainly can't speak for Freddie, but in the gazillions of interviews with him, even as his influences that he cited changed...God I think I even recall Freddie in 1 interview in the mid 80's saying he liked Culture Club, well they were a new artist on the music scene at that time so he cited them, and of course there are those he repeatedly mentioned/cited such as Hendrix, Aretha Franklin, Liza Minelli, Montserrat Caballe,... ...but never, not even once have I ever read or heard Freddie so much as mention Paul Rodgers, Free, Bad Company. I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion) |
bryans permed poodle 15069 11.08.2005 13:40 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Brian would have probably said Freddie was a big fan of 5ive or Will Young if they had been around in the late 80's early 90's.Erin wrote:Erin, I know you're kidding..BUT..really...who the hell were Brian and Roger going to get otherwise. I don't think (last I heard) that Hendrix was in a state physically capable of fronting this tour ;-) and of course Aretha, Liza, Montserrat are not exactly people who though many of us love them, would be appropriate to front Queen... ..so Brian and Roger had to think this through and find someone who could do it and be as faithful to Queen's songs and the rock vibe as possible..but because Freddie's legacy is so huge and he is so beloved and was such an amazing talent, obviously, Brian and Roger wanted to assure as little dissent from Queen fans about their choice as possible. But...I mean if you like, we can always put in our 2 cents worth that Liza, Aretha, or Montserrat should have fronted this tour. ;-) You never know, they probably could sing hell out of TSMGO and WATC! LOL!Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion)I would buy that. It's probably best that Brian and Roger didn't pick someone that Freddie really was a fan of for the tour..;-) I doubt Freddie had ever heard of Paul Rodgers |
Rompez 11.08.2005 13:50 |
I doubt Freddie had ever heard of Paul RodgersBPP do you knew anything about rock music? |
deleted user 11.08.2005 14:01 |
Doesn't anybody know wether Freddie owned a record by Free or Bad Company? I mean things like him owning the LP's from "Life Is A Cabaret" soundtrack and "Tommy" are also known, so... |
doremi 11.08.2005 14:04 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:BPP, let's make sure the discussion stays on the RIGHT track. I know you don't like Paul Rodgers, but...don't over exaggerate the circumstances or demean Freddie's intelligence of the music of his day.Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Brian would have probably said Freddie was a big fan of 5ive or Will Young if they had been around in the late 80's early 90's. I doubt Freddie had ever heard of Paul RodgersErin wrote:Erin, I know you're kidding..BUT..really...who the hell were Brian and Roger going to get otherwise. I don't think (last I heard) that Hendrix was in a state physically capable of fronting this tour ;-) and of course Aretha, Liza, Montserrat are not exactly people who though many of us love them, would be appropriate to front Queen... ..so Brian and Roger had to think this through and find someone who could do it and be as faithful to Queen's songs and the rock vibe as possible..but because Freddie's legacy is so huge and he is so beloved and was such an amazing talent, obviously, Brian and Roger wanted to assure as little dissent from Queen fans about their choice as possible. But...I mean if you like, we can always put in our 2 cents worth that Liza, Aretha, or Montserrat should have fronted this tour. ;-) You never know, they probably could sing hell out of TSMGO and WATC! LOL!Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I still think Brian did a little spin doctoring to enhance Paul's validity to the 2005 Queen audience by giving Paul the Freddie Mercury stamp and seal of approval. (Just my opinion)I would buy that. It's probably best that Brian and Roger didn't pick someone that Freddie really was a fan of for the tour..;-) I am about 99% certain if not 100% certain, that Freddie certainly KNEW of Paul Rodgers and his work with Free and Bad Company, and Paul's cultural impact on the music of the era, even if Freddie was not a fan or never mentioned Paul. I HATE 50 Cent I am SURE MORE than even you hate Paul Rodgers. In fact I am willing to bet the farm on it, and knowing how much you hate Paul that takes some hating on my part of Mr. Cent! But....I certainly KNOW who 50 Cent is and his cultural impact on today's music...even if it thoroughly disgusts me in every possible way. :-) BPP Oh...and in closing, look how many artists don't even like one another so much they have feuds in the press dissing one another like Blur and Oasis...BUT..they certainly know of one another..THAT'S THE POINT. Which is what causes part of the rivalry, knowing about each other and... ...either a healthy rivalry or knowledge like say between Queen and The Who, or Clapton, Townshend, Jeff Beck, and Hendrix (all who knew and admired one another) or an Unhealthy rivalry like Blur and Oasis... ...to best one another and raise the bar on creative excellence. |
PieterMC 11.08.2005 14:23 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: But....I certainly KNOW who 50 Cent is and his cultural impact on today's music...even if it thoroughly disgusts me in every possible way. :-)I guess you won't be looking forward to the upcoming Queen + Paul Rodgers + 50 Cent album then? |
Rompez 11.08.2005 14:46 |
I may seem to be oldfashioned but I still prefer Queen without 50 cent.:0 Back to our discussion... Freddie was a blues singer in his college days. We knew that his favorites at that time were Led Zeppelin and Cream. Yes we have no documental materials proves that Freddie liked Paul. But Free was one of the biggest blues band at that time. So Freddie defiantly knew Mr. Rodgers well. He probably wasn’t his biggest "fan" (I HATE this word, and I can explain why if you like...) but I'm sure that Freddie Bulsara respected Paul for his great voice. |
doremi 11.08.2005 15:27 |
PieterMC wrote:I haven't laughed this hard in ages!Arlene R. Weiss wrote: But....I certainly KNOW who 50 Cent is and his cultural impact on today's music...even if it thoroughly disgusts me in every possible way. :-)I guess you won't be looking forward to the upcoming Queen + Paul Rodgers + 50 Cent album then? Hey I want to hear Brian, Roger, Paul and the band collaborate with 50 Cent on ''Candy Shop'' with the thunder of fake gunshots artisticaly re-created on the synthesizer to create the perfect, quintessential creative effect. A landmark performance! Yo, Ya Mama! Word! |