brENsKi 08.08.2005 13:01 |
Richard/Barbara is it possible to do something about the content of some postings being made lately? I know this isn't your fault - but QZ is degenerating into a cesspool of racism, and all-round offensive comments. I understand how we all swear (i know i'm amongst the worst) - but the comments lately have been beyond plain indecency - and what's worse is : these people think it's clever - some of the porn on here is unbelievable - with som many pre-adult QZoners - how long before some parent somewhere is directing traffic at YOU? examples: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sharron .G Posted: 8/7/2005 6:17:42 PM My asshole friend sent me this link, he's like "Here dude, I know you like watching hotties in threesomes." click here, you won't believe how hot they are Sharron .G Posted: 8/7/2005 5:43:44 PM Jay Z is a queer, but I'd eat shit out of Beyonce's hot nig nog ass! DudleyFufkin Posted: 8/7/2005 6:09:36 PM theres nothing wrong with nig nogs arses. unless they're fat or something DudleyFufkin Posted: 8/7/2005 4:08:51 PM Your the dickhead mate. How can someone be racist towards their own people? LOL. If a black gut disses his fellow niggers, is that racist? DudleyFufkin Posted: 7/21/2005 2:27:50 PM I think its about time we sent muslims home now. I mean, look at the bombings, they are all muslims, and people say "ah we cant send them all back because some are good", yes but they become bad and bomb stuff. we dont know who the bad ones are, if we sent them all home, then we wouldnt be bombed. easy solution. and its not racist because i havent said to kill them or anything, just leave them go and live in an arab country where they want to be anyway cos they come over here and dont change their way of living to suit western world, they just carry on DudleyFufkin Posted: 7/21/2005 3:20:08 PM What do you mean islam is harmless? are you kidding? its the most dangerous thing in the world and should be banned. if people want to be islam, then they can go and live in an arab country. problem solved. There will be no terrorism in uk then, well, only the irish probably, and at least they have the courtesy to warn us +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ okay, so if you think i'm being a bit too concerned - that's okay. but i do think things are definitely turning for the worse lately... |
bitesthedust 08.08.2005 13:05 |
I agree with everything Brenski has said here. Does anyone really believe The Sex Poll is a real study? |
flash00. 08.08.2005 13:16 |
also how about having an 18 and over forum for any adult chat? |
deleted user 08.08.2005 13:21 |
wouldnt work, and i also agree with Brenski, i know for a fact im probably the worst for swearing! but the level of rasicm and sexual content is a disgrace, lucky im going on holiday for two weeks tomorrow so its two weeks of relaxation and two weeks without looking at some of this stuff seen before us, hopefully when i return queenzone will once again be a happy, non rasist, non sexual shit hole it has become. my rant over! :D |
Serry... 08.08.2005 13:43 |
Agree. link |
brENsKi 08.08.2005 13:46 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: I second this. Plus, I nominate Dudley for getting shot dead.usually i adopt a slightly more leftish approach - but i have to say i see no flaw in your suggestion at all...will even pay for the bullet if you like |
DudleyFufkin 08.08.2005 13:47 |
"What do you mean islam is harmless? are you kidding? its the most dangerous thing in the world and should be banned. if people want to be islam, then they can go and live in an arab country. problem solved. There will be no terrorism in uk then, well, only the irish probably, and at least they have the courtesy to warn us" Whats racist about this????!?!?!!??? |
Mr.Jingles 08.08.2005 13:51 |
DudleyFufkin wrote: "What do you mean islam is harmless? are you kidding? its the most dangerous thing in the world and should be banned. if people want to be islam, then they can go and live in an arab country. problem solved. There will be no terrorism in uk then, well, only the irish probably, and at least they have the courtesy to warn us" Whats racist about this????!?!?!!???I know!! Isn't this outrageous??!! I can't even wear my Ku Klux Klan costume outside my house without being told a bunch of obscenities by people. |
Erin 08.08.2005 14:15 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I know!! Isn't this outrageous??!! I can't even wear my Ku Klux Klan costume outside my house without being told a bunch of obscenities by people.And don't even TRY to burn a cross or fly a rebel flag in my neighborhood.. |
DudleyFufkin 08.08.2005 14:25 |
you cant even call asian police officers "pakis" anymore, they arrest you. This country. |
PieterMC 08.08.2005 14:26 |
DudleyFufkin wrote: you cant even call asian police officers "pakis" anymore, they arrest you. This country.Thankfully though we can still call you an asshole and a racist :-) |
brENsKi 08.08.2005 14:26 |
DudleyFufkin wrote: "What do you mean islam is harmless? are you kidding? its the most dangerous thing in the world and should be banned. if people want to be islam, then they can go and live in an arab country. problem solved. There will be no terrorism in uk then, well, only the irish probably, and at least they have the courtesy to warn us" Whats racist about this????!?!?!!???you know what? - you're absolutely fucking priceless. Richard, please ban this moron he's attempting to stir up racial hatred and claims he doesn't know what's wrong with the above statement. look Dudleyfufkin, ignorance is not an excuse. look around you in this thread...not ONE person has taken your side, everyone is disgusted with the decline around here, generally down to YOU and Sharron .G. but since you ask - specifically: 'if people want to be islam, then they can go and live in an arab country. problem solved. There will be no terrorism in uk then,' --- is what i find racist it cites: 1. people are not allowed free will to follow their beliefs without constraint and repression from the likes of bigots like yourself 2. it assumes ALL muslims Arabs and Irish are terrorists, thereby appealing to radical/extremist stereotypes 3. you are attempting to marginalise people into categories that don't exist - would you have ALL catholics live in Rome, all Jews in Israel, all Protestants in germany and all Sikhs in India? there's only one thing missing from '3' above...ALL FUCKING BIGOTS IN HELL - so do us a favour and get the fuck out of here, and don't come back...there's no room for YOUR particular breed of 'normal' in civilized society - you fucking ignorant bigotted zenophobic wanker!!!! go play with traffic!!! |
DudleyFufkin 08.08.2005 14:37 |
God, you've got one hell of a chip on your shoulder. Chill man / woman, actually, your probably a woman, they always over react with stuff like this. |
Erin 08.08.2005 14:43 |
DudleyFufkin wrote: God, you've got one hell of a chip on your shoulder. Chill man / woman, actually, your probably a woman, they always over react with stuff like this.a sexist too? *lol* Oh yeah..we only overreact during "that time of the month"... |
YourValentine 08.08.2005 14:47 |
Sometimes I think that people bring all their bad mood to this website. It should be FUN. I see the day coming that Richard is just fed up and closes the place. How many hours are we spending removing trolls, answering complaints and read unbelievable rude and vulgar crap on the notice board. Last week an idiot called Sue Allen something posted a fake "Reuters news item" about John Deacon's alleged death. Incredibly cruel and thoughtless. I deleted the poster and several new accounts but s/he came back with another account and has a thread in the personal forum with 46 replies. Her/his sig says: cast the first stone, Orchard. Does anyone boycott her/him? Don't you all act like this is normal and can be tolerated? But as soon as she/he posts something YOU find offensive, you'll call for moderation and send complaints to the website. What I am trying to say is: it's impossible to make this board a nice board by deleting what could be offending. This board is like a house that belongs to a generous host and we all should behave like guests. You do not start fights in other people's home and you do not visit only to dump your trash. You try to make the party a success and when someone else does not behave you do not complain to the host, you try to solve the situation yourself. Please take a look at this webite, it's a great place. Where else do you find so much free pictures, information, downloads and other features? It's worth to make a little effort to make the board a better place. It's easy. Just look at the interesting topics that drop down the page like a stone and on the other side all the sutpid threads getting loads of replies. Dudley, could you please email me or come to the chat room, please? |
Erin 08.08.2005 14:51 |
YourValentine wrote: Last week an idiot called Sue Allen something posted a fake "Reuters news item" about John Deacon's alleged death. Incredibly cruel and thoughtless. I deleted the poster and several new accounts but s/he came back with another account and has a thread in the personal forum with 46 replies. Her/his sig says: cast the first stone, Orchard.Ahhh..so THAT is what that sig is all about.... I missed that John thread entirely. |
deleted user 08.08.2005 15:10 |
what about reporting the IP address, that can be done and if done properly i believe that particular user of the IP address can be fined and be banned from internet access for improper use and for abusing the internet, also for causing harm to those with all the rasist comments seen recently? is that not at all possible, or worth a try? |
Guy 08.08.2005 15:58 |
3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote: what about reporting the IP address, that can be done and if done properly i believe that particular user of the IP address can be fined and be banned from internet access for improper use and for abusing the internet, also for causing harm to those with all the rasist comments seen recently? is that not at all possible, or worth a try?No, it's not possible, now cut the bullshit and just ignore the assholes! |
bryans permed poodle 15069 08.08.2005 17:37 |
The world would be a much happier place without religion. A lot of Muslims are good people but I must admit they do themselves no favours by not condoning terrorism enough and being inflexible on certain subjects |
doremi 08.08.2005 17:47 |
Martin....Barb, Richard SOS! SOS! Look what BPP is doing up in General Discussion Topics. Spamming with twisted sick topics. |
Penis - Vagina 08.08.2005 18:02 |
Check out this guy with a huge cock! link |
deleted user 08.08.2005 18:02 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: I second this. Plus, I nominate Dudley for getting shot dead.ABout shooting people dead. Someone who threatens 3 Queenzoners to kill them seriously isn't banned... I mean Barbara, you gave me a e-mail (thank you for that) but I really think someone who threatens to kill people on the party should be thrown our of the party. And indeed some people should behave like in the houde of a guest. |
Sir Archie 'Tiffany' Leach 08.08.2005 18:11 |
Typical lefties. Always wanting intervention. If you don't like it don't read it, don't visit Queenzone or start your own site where you can ban every tosser to your heart's content. |
PieterMC 08.08.2005 18:23 |
I'm sorry but I think the use of the words "nigger" and "paki" is more offensive than somebody posting about John Deacon being dead. Just a personal view, but there are no excuses and no reason for racial hatred on this website. Just because it's posted in the personal section on a Queen site does not make it ok or justifed to use racial slurs. There are plenty of websites out there where people can express their racial views. Queenzone should not be one of them. If racism and bigotry is to be allowed on Queenzone then perhaps it is time call it a day, even if these sad pathetic individuals are only posting these comments for attention and shock value. Most of the people who post these comments are doing so to push peoples buttons, and it works. They should be deleted and banned. |
bryans permed poodle 15069 08.08.2005 18:26 |
whirled peas<br><font size=1>Give peas a chance wrote: Check out this guy with a huge cock! linkHave seen tits on the Television before ? yolink |
bryans permed poodle 15069 08.08.2005 18:27 |
Erin wrote:Problem is "that time of the month" is usually the "whole fuckin month"DudleyFufkin wrote: God, you've got one hell of a chip on your shoulder. Chill man / woman, actually, your probably a woman, they always over react with stuff like this.a sexist too? *lol* Oh yeah..we only overreact during "that time of the month"... |
Erin 08.08.2005 18:53 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:Well, I assure you, if you are having problems getting along with ladies it has nothing to do with their periods and everything to do with your personality.Erin wrote:Problem is "that time of the month" is usually the "whole fuckin month"DudleyFufkin wrote: God, you've got one hell of a chip on your shoulder. Chill man / woman, actually, your probably a woman, they always over react with stuff like this.a sexist too? *lol* Oh yeah..we only overreact during "that time of the month"... |
Lisser 08.08.2005 19:00 |
Guy wrote:Amen!!!3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote: what about reporting the IP address, that can be done and if done properly i believe that particular user of the IP address can be fined and be banned from internet access for improper use and for abusing the internet, also for causing harm to those with all the rasist comments seen recently? is that not at all possible, or worth a try?No, it's not possible, now cut the bullshit and just ignore the assholes! |
Lisser 08.08.2005 19:01 |
Sir Archie 'Tiffany' Leach wrote: Typical lefties. Always wanting intervention. If you don't like it don't read it, don't visit Queenzone or start your own site where you can ban every tosser to your heart's content.And a Amen!!! |
Mr.Jingles 08.08.2005 20:10 |
Erin wrote:But John Deacon's dead!! Didn't you know that??YourValentine wrote: Last week an idiot called Sue Allen something posted a fake "Reuters news item" about John Deacon's alleged death. Incredibly cruel and thoughtless. I deleted the poster and several new accounts but s/he came back with another account and has a thread in the personal forum with 46 replies. Her/his sig says: cast the first stone, Orchard.Ahhh..so THAT is what that sig is all about.... I missed that John thread entirely. Last year he got beaten up to death by his wife Veronica after she started surfing Queenzone and found those pictures of John at a strip club. The mad woman won't even allow this poor man to have a little lap dance, and now he's dead because all he wanted was to grab a nicely shaped pair of tities that unfortunatelty his wife no longer had. R.I.P. - John 'Deacy' Deacon (1949-2004). |
Saint Jiub 08.08.2005 21:00 |
Lisser wrote:...and another Amen.Guy wrote:Amen!!!3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote: what about reporting the IP address, that can be done and if done properly i believe that particular user of the IP address can be fined and be banned from internet access for improper use and for abusing the internet, also for causing harm to those with all the rasist comments seen recently? is that not at all possible, or worth a try?No, it's not possible, now cut the bullshit and just ignore the assholes! Queenonline has moderation ... and power corrupts their moderators. I can ignore the wind-up merchants and the whiners, but moderation would be the final death knell for Queenzone. |
Lisser 08.08.2005 21:38 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote:And aaaanother Amen!!Lisser wrote:...and another Amen. Queenonline has moderation ... and power corrupts their moderators. I can ignore the wind-up merchants and the whiners, but moderation would be the final death knell for Queenzone.Guy wrote:Amen!!!3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote: what about reporting the IP address, that can be done and if done properly i believe that particular user of the IP address can be fined and be banned from internet access for improper use and for abusing the internet, also for causing harm to those with all the rasist comments seen recently? is that not at all possible, or worth a try?No, it's not possible, now cut the bullshit and just ignore the assholes! |
Erin 08.08.2005 21:49 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Well..I'll be damned...;-)Erin wrote:But John Deacon's dead!! Didn't you know that?? Last year he got beaten up to death by his wife Veronica after she started surfing Queenzone and found those pictures of John at a strip club. The mad woman won't even allow this poor man to have a little lap dance, and now he's dead because all he wanted was to grab a nicely shaped pair of tities that unfortunatelty his wife no longer had. R.I.P. - John 'Deacy' Deacon (1949-2004).YourValentine wrote: Last week an idiot called Sue Allen something posted a fake "Reuters news item" about John Deacon's alleged death. Incredibly cruel and thoughtless. I deleted the poster and several new accounts but s/he came back with another account and has a thread in the personal forum with 46 replies. Her/his sig says: cast the first stone, Orchard.Ahhh..so THAT is what that sig is all about.... I missed that John thread entirely. |
Mr.Jingles 08.08.2005 22:23 |
...the next one to say AMEN should be banned from this board. ;-P |
Ian R 08.08.2005 22:43 |
I see that all those saying 'Amen' are quite willing to see QueenZone being dragged into the 10th level of shitiness. The problem iwith Moderation is NOT the principle of it alone, but the lottery of having a decent moderator. QueenOnline may well be over-moderated, but I don't see any reason why QueenZone shouldn't have something called 'standards'. I belong to several other message boards that are very sensibly moderated - it could happen here too. Only the racist fuckwits need worry about being censored. |
Lisser 08.08.2005 23:47 |
Ian R wrote: I see that all those saying 'Amen' are quite willing to see QueenZone being dragged into the 10th level of shitiness. The problem iwith Moderation is NOT the principle of it alone, but the lottery of having a decent moderator. QueenOnline may well be over-moderated, but I don't see any reason why QueenZone shouldn't have something called 'standards'. I belong to several other message boards that are very sensibly moderated - it could happen here too. Only the racist fuckwits need worry about being censored.On the contrary. This board does not, should not ever, and has never needed babysitters. It would be ideal if every poster had some self control and posted useful, interesting information. It would also be ideal if we all could learn to skip over the things we don't care to read about from posters that are known to post garbage. If a poster that doesn't already have a reputation for posting nonsense posts something that you don't happen to agree with and would like to comment on, by all means....have a debate! But don't feed into someone's cries for attention, get yourself bent out of shape in the process then announce you are leaving QZ. Don't leave...stay and ignore their crap posts. Say you go to a book store to buy a cookbook bc you are interested in cooking. You already know you can't stand self-help books. Do you skip the self-help section and go to the cooking section bc you already know that is what you are interested in or do you go to the self-help section to spend your whole experience at the store in the self-help section yelling to the store manager that this section should not be allowed in the store? What I'm trying to get at is we all don't agree on what is acceptable on here and what isn't but the fact is is that this board is unmoderated. This means we are free to chose what we want to write on here and we are free to choose what we want to read on here. QZ is not a utopia and neither is the real world. I've said this before, this board is what we make of it. If you want a nice place to discuss Queen, get cool concerts, make new friends, etc. then DO THAT. If you want to yell to Barb every time someone posts something that you don't agree with, you are wasting a lot of your own time as well as Barb's. If you don't like it, just skip over it. What you don't read won't hurt you or your personal beliefs. If there are racists on this board, let them be racists. Don't waste your energy trying to convince them how to live their own lives. Right on. |
Ian R 09.08.2005 00:26 |
On the contrary. This board does not, should not ever, and has never needed babysittersIt doesn't need what you would characterise as a 'babysitter', it needs a strong, but fair moderator to delete the posts by the people who go too far. Barbara already fullfills this role to a certain extent (bless her), but still the scum persists in sticking to the board. It would be ideal if every poster had some self control and posted useful, interesting information. It would also be ideal if we all could learn to skip over the things we don't care to read about from posters that are known to post garbage.If I walk down the street and avoid stepping on dog shit, then I'm not going to get dirty shoes. However, I still don't particularly want to see shit lying on the pavement (who does?). If we have the analagous power to clean up the street, then why don't we do so, especially as it's only the odd turd here and there? If a poster that doesn't already have a reputation for posting nonsense posts something that you don't happen to agree with and would like to comment on, by all means....have a debate! But don't feed into someone's cries for attention, get yourself bent out of shape in the process then announce you are leaving QZ. Don't leave...stay and ignore their crap posts.I certainly would never be forced out by the behaviour of a small number of idiots, and you're right that the board would be considerably better if the decent people hung around. Nonetheless, everyone has a limit. Say you go to a book store to buy a cookbook bc you are interested in cooking. You already know you can't stand self-help books. Do you skip the self-help section and go to the cooking section bc you already know that is what you are interested in or do you go to the self-help section to spend your whole experience at the store in the self-help section yelling to the store manager that this section should not be allowed in the store? What I'm trying to get at is we all don't agree on what is acceptable on here and what isn't but the fact is is that this board is unmoderated. This means we are free to chose what we want to write on here and we are free to choose what we want to read on hereInteresting analogy, but we are not talking about indivual likes or dis-likes here; we are talking about issues that are almost universally regarded by society as taboos, such as out-and-out racisim. I certainly do not like the idea of black people visiting this board and seeing that comments such as 'nig-nog' are left when we have the power to delete them. It is simply unacceptable. QZ is not a utopia and neither is the real world.Well, of course not and I don't expect it to be so. However, we should at least draw a line SOMEWHERE - an extreme point beyond which behaviour is democratically deemed to be unacceptable by members of the forum. I've said this before, this board is what we make of it. If you want a nice place to discuss Queen, get cool concerts, make new friends, etc. then DO THAT. If you want to yell to Barb every time someone posts something that you don't agree with, you are wasting a lot of your own time as well as Barb's.I'm not talking about individual dislikes; instead I'm referring to extreme behaviour that might be exhibited by the odd 1% of posters. As I've already stated, Barabara already does some moderating of the GOOD KIND and I hope she continues in a similar vien. We, the members of QueenZone need to decide when an indivual's behaviour goes beyond the point where they are no longer welcome here. Why is it a bad thing to aspire to having some kind of standards around here? I'm not talking about swearing or anything like that (shit, no!). Just the abominable stuff that we have the power to remove. If you don't like it, just skip over it.I do, as I'm sure a lot of other posters do. However, clea |
Sharron .G 09.08.2005 00:49 |
What you assmunches need to keep in mind is that this is one of 1,224,333,663,345,335,667 forum/chat websites on the net. You act as though we are all here to conquer terrorism. I love you guys trying to act "hard and intellectual" on the Queenzone chat room. You didn't have a date tonight, you didn't leave the house... you drank 2 beers, and jerked off all over yourself.... and "told off them 13 yr olds on a internet chat forum." Talking about midgets eating poop is more rewarding than listening to some of you clowns get philosophical on EVERY FUCKING TOPIC. |
Ian R 09.08.2005 00:55 |
<irony> You're sure one classy broad... </irony> |
dragonzflame 09.08.2005 01:52 |
I have to say, I haven't noticed a single one of those offensive posts pointed out by Brenski. This is because I only go to the interesting looking topics started by real posters. I avoid a lot of crap this way. The problem I see with moderating is not people going on power trips because I trust Richard's judgement but where to draw a line. What one person sees as racist might wash over someone else. I don't object to swear words but others might. I have no objection to people who say "oh my god" or "Jesus Christ" although I know for a fact that some are offended by that. If you try and please everyone you obliterate free speech. Remember on South Park when Kyle's mum kicked up a stink about religion? Instead of carols at the Christmas play they got stuck with Phillip Glass. Please, don't let QZ get stuck with Phillip Glass. |
Ian R 09.08.2005 01:56 |
I think if a majority of people on here think that a certain person's baehvaiour is unacceptable, then something should be done about it, don't you think? Surely, the term "nig-nog" is almost as racist as you could possibly get? Don't forget, only a very few people would be censored on this board as the vast majority are decent people, from what I can tell. How would we react to someone openly promoting paedaphilia, I wonder? Ignore it? |
Fenderek 09.08.2005 04:32 |
YourValentine wrote: It's worth to make a little effort to make the board a better place. It's easy. Just look at the interesting topics that drop down the page like a stone and on the other side all the sutpid threads getting loads of replies.HERE, HERE- 100% RIGHT. Just look at "Freddie was not so great" thread- six pages of replies!!!! And than ppl complain that we have crap on this board- but by all those replies, written by those "offended" the thread was/is being kept alive and on tp of the list... We decide what's being talked about- if someone posts something stupid and everybody will ignore it- no-one will know about it, it'll disappear ina week. Someone may innitaiate stir up, but there's two to tango- endless "yeah, I agree- we should ban him" keeps every single thread and problem very much alive... |
@ndy38 09.08.2005 05:34 |
I agree with the fact that anyone who is going to start a thread that will purposely annoy others should be banned, or the thread be deleted. Apart from that everything is great. |
Lisser 09.08.2005 08:27 |
Fenderek wrote:This is exactly how I feel. Ian, if it is just 1% of the posters here that post crap then it should be very easy for us to skip over that 1% right? :)YourValentine wrote: It's worth to make a little effort to make the board a better place. It's easy. Just look at the interesting topics that drop down the page like a stone and on the other side all the sutpid threads getting loads of replies.HERE, HERE- 100% RIGHT. Just look at "Freddie was not so great" thread- six pages of replies!!!! And than ppl complain that we have crap on this board- but by all those replies, written by those "offended" the thread was/is being kept alive and on tp of the list... We decide what's being talked about- if someone posts something stupid and everybody will ignore it- no-one will know about it, it'll disappear ina week. Someone may innitaiate stir up, but there's two to tango- endless "yeah, I agree- we should ban him" keeps every single thread and problem very much alive... |
Penis - Vagina 09.08.2005 09:24 |
This reminds me.. I left before the election. I wonder how well Charles Baer did? |
deleted user 09.08.2005 09:31 |
whirled peas<br><font size=1>Give peas a chance wrote: This reminds me.. I left before the election. I wonder how well Charles Baer did?He lost. Now he's selling pinas coladas in Aruba. Cheers. Mr. Tampon Tea. |
Bob The Shrek 09.08.2005 10:13 |
'I think if a majority of people on here think that a certain person's baehvaiour is unacceptable, then something should be done about it, don't you think?' No. I think the majority of people on here should learn how to moderate themselves and what they reply to - it's simple enough and this advice has been ignored for years. |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:26 |
If anything goes, maybe we should put a big disclaimer on the board. ..Yes, I am 18 years of age or older.. Just a shame that people have to act like idiots for attention on a noticeboard. How pathetic must their real lives be? I've always said that some moderation is necessary; however, majority rules, and the majority seems to think it's not necessary. I'm not going to get my panties in a wad over it. I've been around here long enough to know to take everything posted with a grain of salt. It is annoying, though, when you look at the Queen General section and see threads such as, "Does anyone have any sex tapes of people with Down's Syndrome?" |
Penis - Vagina 09.08.2005 10:29 |
- link - |
PieterMC 09.08.2005 10:37 |
There have always been idiots that post crap here, always will be. However it's getting worse and worse and happening more often. The idea of just ignoring them is great, but it's just not going to happen. People will always reply no matter how often people say just ignore it. I have been here since 1997 and people said ignore it then, and 8 years later people are still saying the same thing. The fact is some things just need to be deleted, that does not mean the person needs to be instantly banned, but some posts should not be allowed. |
Fenderek 09.08.2005 10:37 |
OK- tell me WHO would taht be...? Richard and Barb are already doing a lot to keep it "sane". Who else do you think could? |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:41 |
I would say that the moderators have shown a great deal of restraint... Good thing I am not a mod.. I would, no doubt, piss all of y'all off. ;-) |
Mr.Jingles 09.08.2005 10:43 |
If we should pretty much allow anyone to post whatever they want then let's welcome Jake Britt back. |
Krizzy 09.08.2005 10:44 |
I agree a moderator is needed since the board is becoming more offensive and less informative. The posters who are starting up are very young and these childish posts are starting to lose QZ members. and I cannot say I blame them one bit! Kriz >:( |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:45 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: If we should pretty much allow anyone to post whatever they want then let's welcome Jake Britt back.Oh yeah, and don't forget TED! Actually TED and Dudley would most likely get along smashingly..;-) |
Serry... 09.08.2005 10:46 |
Fenderek wrote: OK- tell me WHO would taht be...? Richard and Barb are already doing a lot to keep it "sane". Who else do you think could?BPP, _amadeus_, John Lydon, Mr Knoxville... ;) |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:47 |
WAK UPP AND SMEELL THE FFUCKIN' COOFFEEEE!!! (wonders who remembers this) |
PieterMC 09.08.2005 10:48 |
Krizzy wrote: I agree a moderator is needed since the board is becoming more offensive and less informative. The posters who are starting up are very young and these childish posts are starting to lose QZ members.The site has several moderators, just that people complain if they ever use their power. Of course people complain if they don't use it. I remember back in the day, when I removed a certain user from the website after receiving god knows how many complaints about them. There will be some people who will remember. Anyhoooo I banned them and all hell broke loose. You would think I had just killed somebody. |
Lisser 09.08.2005 10:49 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Well, my dear pseudo-liberals (in the right-winged sense), such as Lisser and 'Sir' Archie: this is not an ideal board, not everyone has self-control, so I say SENSIBLE moderation is a good idea. Richard and YV have had moderator-functions for as long as I know, but they have been (understandably) cautious in using them. The only thing I and the other 'lefties', as our elitist immitation-noble Archie called us, want to make clear is that we want Richard and YV to use their powers a bit more freely. This is not QOL, and comparing possible moderation on this board with the power-abuse on QOL is quite frankly an insult to Richard and YV, as it shows a lack of trust in them. I'm quite sure they will not abuse their power, and I don't think we would need more moderators (unless Richard and YV think so, and in which case reliable and respectable QZ-ers who already have a natural authority would be chosen (and I do NOT consider myself part of that group, ok?!)), so there shouldn't be a problem. The problem with your reactionary view is exactly what is the problem with the entire conservative view: you are not willing to take a chance to make something 'good' if you think that the current state is 'sufficient'.Thomas, I am not against any sort of moderation. I use proper ettiquette and discretion on this board so any moderation would not bother me and probably wouldn't even affect me or the majority of us. It is not an issue to me for Barb or Richard to moderate. I am 100%positive that they would never abuse any such power they have, that is given and it's been proven over the years. What I hate to see is Barb or Richard wasting time each day patroling the board looking for stuff that is "not appropriate" according to "QZ rules." Barb and Richard have not set up rules bc we should be able to control ourselves. I know that not everyone has self control like you said, but so what as long as I have self control and can skip over what I don't care to read. I take care of me and I am responsible for me. I can't help what other people choose to post on here but I can't help what I choose to read on here. Every day that I read the newspaper I skip over any headlines that aren't appealing to me. If every headline is appealing to me, then I read every story. It shouldn't be as hard as some are making it. It really should be an individual decision on here as to what we want to read and what we want to skip. What if Barb deletes a thread considered to be offensive to you but is something I've been looking for information on? I repsect everyone's opinion and choice on here to want moderation or to not want it. I don't care one way or the other if we have moderators or a moderator. It won't affect me really. I just hate to see Barb having to babysit and that's exactly what it will be, babysitting. Barb's hobby is Queen. She won't even be able to enjoy her hobby if she has to devote a large portion of her day to patrol QZ all day and make sure no one is offending anyone else. I'm going to continue to ignore the trolls and self moderate. You all do what works best for you. |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:51 |
PieterMC wrote:Oooh..I remember that..Krizzy wrote: I agree a moderator is needed since the board is becoming more offensive and less informative. The posters who are starting up are very young and these childish posts are starting to lose QZ members.The site has several moderators, just that people complain if they ever use their power. Of course people complain if they don't use it. I remember back in the day, when I removed a certain user from the website after receiving god knows how many complaints about them. There will be some people who will remember. Anyhoooo I banned them and all hell broke loose. You would think I had just killed somebody. |
PieterMC 09.08.2005 10:53 |
Lisser wrote: What if Barb deletes a thread considered to be offensive to you but is something I've been looking for information on?I think what most people who want some form of moderation are looking for are topics that contain racist comments and sexually explicit links to be removed. They don't belong on Queenzone. Word to yer momma... WORD UP!! |
Lisser 09.08.2005 10:54 |
PieterMC wrote: There have always been idiots that post crap here, always will be. However it's getting worse and worse and happening more often. The idea of just ignoring them is great, but it's just not going to happen. People will always reply no matter how often people say just ignore it. I have been here since 1997 and people said ignore it then, and 8 years later people are still saying the same thing. The fact is some things just need to be deleted, that does not mean the person needs to be instantly banned, but some posts should not be allowed.I do agree with you Pieter but somehow I think that if threads start being deleted, it becomes a game to poster that starts them. They just keep posting over and over again so they occupy all of your time. they know you'll have to watch the board all day to delete them. I believe that is what Amadeus did right? I definitely agree with banning spammers. They cover up all the good information. I've been here long enough now that I know what a crap topic is and I know when to skip it. I also remember which posters have a reputation for posting nonsense. I skip their threads entirely. |
Erin 09.08.2005 10:56 |
Got one of them there catch 22's on our hands, don't we? ;-) |
Erin 09.08.2005 11:00 |
Lisser wrote: I do agree with you Pieter but somehow I think that if threads start being deleted, it becomes a game to poster that starts them. They just keep posting over and over again so they occupy all of your time.That is true. That's why I think a 3 strikes and you're out rule should apply. If it becomes a game, then bye bye.. |
Lisser 09.08.2005 11:49 |
PieterMC wrote:Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuurd!!Lisser wrote: What if Barb deletes a thread considered to be offensive to you but is something I've been looking for information on?I think what most people who want some form of moderation are looking for are topics that contain racist comments and sexually explicit links to be removed. They don't belong on Queenzone. Word to yer momma... WORD UP!! |
Saint Jiub 09.08.2005 23:18 |
I recall Haole being banned. The people that wanted his head were the prissy Queen Forever types that had no sense of humor. Haole was unfairly banned, but was eventually reinstated by Richard (with a warning to Queenzone to never put him in this situation again). I do not know Richard, but based on his post history over the last five years, I believe that he would prefer to shut this site down rather than become a babysitter. YV has also indicated that she does not want to be a babysitter. Her anti-moderator views, and her battles against moderator censorship at QOL are legendary. Concerning censorship, after Haole was banned, a several page reactionary topic to Haole's banning was suddenly closed (no viewing or additional posts allowed) just before Richard's return (fom vacation?). A moderator on Queenzone censored reasonable free debate ... not once but twice (banning Haole and closing a topic). I do not want to see that happen on Queenzone again. Any strict moderator, even Barb or Richard if they became babysitters, would eventually succomb to being censors to some extent ... because power corrupts. |
YourValentine 10.08.2005 04:01 |
The whole discussion is somewhat academic because Richard never wanted his board moderated, he has made that clear on many occasions. I think it would hurt the core of the board if it was moderated. Actually, there is some sort of moderation - topics are moved from one forum to another to provide for a more serious forum for people who cannot stand the ever repeating "fave" topics. Spammers are deleted. But there is no moderation based on the actual opinion expressed by people in their messages. I know that people who ask for moderation mean well, they care for the board. But there are very good reasons to vote against moderation: You can set up rules what is allowed and what is not allowed on the board but in the end a mod would decide if the rules are violated or not. There would be random decisons because one "offense" would be addressed and another one overlooked. Moderators would start deleting topics they find annoying but that should not be a reason. A mod is only human and favouritism would soon be an issue - bitter fights would break out because a mod deleted a topic by user A but not by user B. You would need people who are willing to send out "warnings" to users before they are banned - what a horrible idea! Who wants to spend his/her free time policing messages on a Queen message board - and who would trust these people? On QOL they "quarantine" messages and the admins look into it before deleting - what a ridiculous system. But then it's the official EMI website and they need more control. |
Erin 10.08.2005 09:09 |
YourValentine wrote: On QOL they "quarantine" messages and the admins look into it before deleting - what a ridiculous system. But then it's the official EMI website and they need more control.True.. I mean we critcize the moderation over there, but they can't exactly leave messages critical of Queen, for example, on the official board. Hence the high Stepford population..;-) |
Erin 10.08.2005 09:11 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Any strict moderator, even Barb or Richard if they became babysitters, would eventually succomb to being censors to some extent ... because power corrupts.Power corrupts?? We are talking about a notice board not ruling a country..*lol* I think this whole issue is entirely too serious. I'm off to watch the chimp video posted by whirled peas..;-) |
PieterMC 10.08.2005 09:29 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: I recall Haole being banned. The people that wanted his head were the prissy Queen Forever types that had no sense of humor.I Concerning censorship, after Haole was banned, a several page reactionary topic to Haole's banning was suddenly closed (no viewing or additional posts allowed) just before Richard's return (fom vacation?). A moderator on Queenzone censored reasonable free debate ... not once but twice (banning Haole and closing a topic).Hmmmm, no there were many more people that just "prissy Queen Forever" people that called for him to be banned. Also whoever closed a topic after Haole was banned was not me. Just thought I should point that out as you said the two things were done by the same person. |
Saint Jiub 10.08.2005 17:48 |
I did not know that. I wonder who closed the thread. Oh well it was 5 years ago. |
Mr.Jingles 11.08.2005 08:17 |
Erin wrote:Didn't you see 'Spiderman' Erin? Remember, with great power comes great responsibility.Rip Van Winkle wrote: Any strict moderator, even Barb or Richard if they became babysitters, would eventually succomb to being censors to some extent ... because power corrupts.Power corrupts?? We are talking about a notice board not ruling a country..*lol* But, I guess you're right. It's just a message board. We're not talking about thousands or millions of people being opressed by a regime. |
killer_queen00 15.08.2005 12:20 |
Some people are saying that by saying that the moderators need to crack down on their job is an insult to them. WTF? It's hard to keep track of all these boards (and they have their own lives). Why can't we find a moderator per forum? That'd just be easier for everyone. Honestly, I don't care what people say about having sex, etc. on the boards but with the porn, it's getting out of hand. I'm so tired of clicking on a topic I think will be interesting and all and it turns out that it's just more crap about porn, having porn websites, etc. Honestly, I'm close to leaving this because of the lack of moderation. I once clicked on a link where it said something like "oh this is a really fun game." Well, it was porn. My parents would have gotten so upset if they would have found out. Some of these topics are not appropriate not only for kids/teenagers, but for anyone. This is really out of hand. If you guys want to talk about having sex, how often you masturbate, fine, put that in the topic, but I don't want to be led on. We need to start checking the links that people put on here and we need to stop having these random comments that are very inappropriate on topics that are perfectly fine. Honestly, I think the moderators need more help because of how many people are now putting more inappropriate things on these forums. |
S@turn 16.08.2005 09:09 |
I do not see the need of moderation and am glad that Richard (and Barb) are following that policy still. As long as people react on those incredible idiot things that are posted by some fools, that long the fools have the right to post as well. It is the best to ignore them, if you see a topic of one of them, just don't read it. and if you accidentically walk into a reply from them, then quit it, and look to the few bright things that sure are here at the zone. The complainers about those idiots are in fact the people who legislate their exsistence at this board. Big cheers and high respect for Queenzone, and the very nice posters I know from here, and yes, a lot of them are in this thread! |