QueenZone discussion #598691

DudleyFufkin wrote: I pretend to speak it, just put loads of words in a sentence, great fun in the pub. heres an example :- Mae swimmio ar y pwll nofio today an maen cancelled ar y kilogram gyda human excrement. sounds great after a few drinks.

Penetration_Guru wrote: Dudley is Welsh, so is allowed in the same way that coloured rappers may use the N word but the rest of us can't.

David Jones wrote: Christ, you can't say anything these days...

DudleyFufkin wrote: Yes I admit it, im very racist towards welsh people, in fact I hate them, fucking bunch of sheep shagging egg chasers.

D@VID wrote: I am from Wales and take no offence at earlier remarks. Touched on this subject before and it is called having a sense of humour.Most British people seem to have one but some do not(usually liberals). I work for a Bristol firm and put up with sort of thing all the time,I just call them carrot crunchers.No offence is ever meant or taken.I would rather work in that type of enviroment than a climate of fear for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

Lisser wrote:

D@VID wrote: I am from Wales and take no offence at earlier remarks. Touched on this subject before and it is called having a sense of humour.Most British people seem to have one but some do not(usually liberals). I work for a Bristol firm and put up with sort of thing all the time,I just call them carrot crunchers.No offence is ever meant or taken.I would rather work in that type of enviroment than a climate of fear for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

Exactly!!! I agree!!!

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:

Lisser wrote:

D@VID wrote: I am from Wales and take no offence at earlier remarks. Touched on this subject before and it is called having a sense of humour.Most British people seem to have one but some do not(usually liberals). I work for a Bristol firm and put up with sort of thing all the time,I just call them carrot crunchers.No offence is ever meant or taken.I would rather work in that type of enviroment than a climate of fear for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

Exactly!!! I agree!!!

and while i agree in principle with much of the sentiments stated...my (ex) boss lost his job two years ago - for EXACTLY THAT kind of 'harmless banter' - as i said - it's racism if ANYONE (regardless of race) finds it offensive. In my boss' case someone clearly did, and reported him - it even made the local daily papers - and it cost him his job and a very comfortable way of life

DudleyFufkin wrote: you got far too much time on you hands.

Serry... wrote: Dych chi'n moyn dishgled? Well... This is not rude, but it's the best what I can offer...

dimcyril wrote:

Serry... wrote: Dych chi'n moyn dishgled? Well... This is not rude, but it's the best what I can offer...

that is pretty good where did you learn that?

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: please don't call me a 'dickhead' - the definition of a racist incident is: any comment or action that may cause racial offence to any individual regardless of whether they belong to the targetted racial group. i ahve spoken up, because i have witnessed and had to give evidence at the investigation that cost my boss his job - i guess WE ALL have to learn one way or another, mine was quite painful - i hope YOURS isn't so!!! i hope the following - which i found among thousands of internet pages available will help you in future: ++++++++++++++++++++++++ WHOSE JOB IS IT? At times, many of us who are by-standers or not members of the group being targeted by an oppression have trouble embracing the idea that it may actually be our job to speak up. We are hesitant to create a conflict or make others uncomfortable. However, we need to remember: 1) how hostile, oppressive or frightening it might feel to be a member of the targeted group hearing these words or being affected by this action 2) that there is virtually no way to avoid making someone uncomfortable if you really are going to identify and address and incident of racism, sexism, homophobia or oppression 3) that sometimes the only way we learn or change is by being pushed out of our comfort zones so that we stop to evaluate why we are uncomfortable or why someone we know or don't know considers our action so significant that they would take the effort to challenge it We suggest that you find a friend and PRACTICE this a bit on each other. Invent a scenario like two friends talking and one telling a bad joke. Go through the steps and see how it feels both to interrupt and be interrupted. Talk about it with your partner and with others. You can even ask for training for yourself or for your workplace, school, church or club. (See below for some resources.) If we are to end an oppression we feel ourselves, we will often have to do more than just survive the inequities and prejudice we face everyday. When we are able, we will have organize and educate ourselves and our allies to make change. Ending the oppression of others IS our job, especially when we have the privilege and resources to do so. To be a good ally, one has to both listen and take action. Think how the world would change... or even just how your own town would change if we all started challenging oppression and teaching our family, friends, neighbors and co-workers to do the same.

DudleyFufkin wrote: "i don't mind jokes about the welsh for example blackadder goes forth quote 'there is something wrong with your girlfriend' 'oh my god she's not welsh is she?'" ah thats racist dim cyril, and with a name like that you must be jewish or something, they'll want to ban you next.

iGSM wrote: "Have you ever been to Wales, Baldrick?" "No, but I've often thought I'd like to." "Well don't, it's a ghastly place. Huge gangs of tough sinewy men roam the valleys terrifying people with their close harmony singing. You need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to pronounce the placenames. Never ask for directions in Wales Baldrick, you'll be washing spit out of your hair for a fortnight." My English 5th cousin (once removed) can pronounce the freakin' place with the longest name...Llanduno or what ever it is.

Lisser wrote: I've never "heard" someone speak Welsh. I'd love to hear it!!

dimcyril wrote:

Lisser wrote: I've never "heard" someone speak Welsh. I'd love to hear it!!

if you'd like to hear it go to link choose a unit [the later ones are better, say unit 59] put your pointy thing on the speaker symbol you can hear people speaking various phrases in welsh

Bob The Shrek wrote: dimcyril link this site has all the Blackadder scripts.