| YourValentine 01.08.2005 04:10 |
amazon. com has the 'Return Of The Champions" listed and guess what - Under Pressure is missing. Very disappointing - this song was not performed once in the non-British concerts. link |
| Daz85 01.08.2005 04:56 |
Brian did mention during the concert that the song would probably not feature on the DVD (and subsequently the CD). It is a shame because I really enjoyed that version of the song with Brian and Roger sharing vocals. |
| sarah_watkin 01.08.2005 04:56 |
Brian said at the time it would not be on the DVD so this doesn't suprise me. |
| Fone Bone 01.08.2005 08:14 |
Any serious info as to why UP will be left out ? I can't believe it's only not to pay royalties to Bowie. UP is such a cornerstone in Queen's career, plus Roger is very good at singing it. What about some lobbying, fellas ? (maybe it's too late for the CD/DVD, but why not a download ?) |
| Zak Royen 01.08.2005 08:45 |
why would that be too late? surely the cds and dvds haven't been burnt already, have they? |
| Daniel Nester 01.08.2005 09:23 |
I just don't think they liked their performance. Someone here quoted Brian as saying at one of the concerts, in his typical modestly, something like "better a bad UP than none at all." To be fair, they really gave it their all on that song when they did UP at Wembley. Brian sang the "Chippin' around" verse in his high voice, whereas Freddie, when he sang it live, ducked a couple octaves lower, even speaking it! |
| We Are The Champions 01.08.2005 10:31 |
sarah_watkin wrote: Brian said at the time it would not be on the DVD so this doesn't suprise me.Doesn't surprise me either. Brian's famous quote from Sheffied says it all really. |
| Future Manager 01.08.2005 11:12 |
Maybe there's a 0,001% chance UP will appear on the DVD but not on the CD as a bonus DVD-only kind of thing, because I haven't seen the DVD tracklist anywhere yet. |
| FriedChicken 01.08.2005 11:54 |
I bet it was a disclaimer for Brian. He said it wasn't rehearsed and was a bonus, because he knew it would turn out crappy. Listen to the recording. Roger can't keep the rythms steady |
| inu-liger 01.08.2005 15:33 |
Daniel Nester wrote: I just don't think they liked their performance. Someone here quoted Brian as saying at one of the concerts, in his typical modestly, something like "better a bad UP than none at all." To be fair, they really gave it their all on that song when they did UP at Wembley. Brian sang the "Chippin' around" verse in his high voice, whereas Freddie, when he sang it live, ducked a couple octaves lower, even speaking it!Are there any MP3's (fan recorded) or FLAC files available for this particular performance? |
| FriedChicken 01.08.2005 17:50 |
Thats right Daniel, Freddie knew he would fuck it up :) |
| Daniel Nester 01.08.2005 18:21 |
I've been meaning to ask that as well: is there any one with a bittorrent of UP live, from any of the shows? I actually really liked it -- they were feeling it, and for 2/5ths of the people who were on the original recording to perform it live is a real gift. |
| Mr Mercury 01.08.2005 19:56 |
Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote:Just for you Richard, here it is linkDaniel Nester wrote: I just don't think they liked their performance. Someone here quoted Brian as saying at one of the concerts, in his typical modestly, something like "better a bad UP than none at all." To be fair, they really gave it their all on that song when they did UP at Wembley. Brian sang the "Chippin' around" verse in his high voice, whereas Freddie, when he sang it live, ducked a couple octaves lower, even speaking it!Are there any MP3's (fan recorded) or FLAC files available for this particular performance? |
| stateside fan 01.08.2005 23:21 |
guys-UP not on for 1 reason...Bowie Royalties |
| inu-liger 02.08.2005 00:22 |
Domo arigato, Mr Mercury! |
| Bort Flancrest 02.08.2005 01:36 |
Bowie himself plays this song live with his band (and released it on his latest live DVD.) I can't see the royalties being an issue between Queen+ and Bowie. I would say it is a quality of performance issue. |
| Daz85 02.08.2005 06:10 |
The Bowie royalties issue is bollocks... UP was released on Live At The Bowl, Wembley '86, Live Magic etc etc plus the live DVDs. As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about. |
| willem-jan 8923 02.08.2005 06:19 |
Darren Robins wrote: As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about.Well, that didn't stop them from playin AKOM. But that's a whole different story. Too bad UP is not on the DVD/CD, but hey, we've still got the boots to listen to. |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2005 08:09 |
Thank you so much for posting this!!!!! |
| Tero 02.08.2005 08:31 |
Darren Robins wrote: As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about.In that case they probably should have chosen to cut quite a few other songs from the upcoming album as well. ;) Neither Bri or Rog are exactly great with their singing, and if they hadn't been members of Queen, very few people would want to hear them sing the Queen songs in the first place. (This is also something they realised themselves. The whole +Paul Rodgers -angle is just a trick to fool the general audience into thinking they have a vocalist, and still manage to sing as many of the songs as possible by themselves...) |
| Mr Drowse 02.08.2005 08:41 |
Thanks for posting UP. I really appreciate it. |
| Daz85 02.08.2005 10:31 |
Tero wrote:Your first point - what songs then?Darren Robins wrote: As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about.In that case they probably should have chosen to cut quite a few other songs from the upcoming album as well. ;) Neither Bri or Rog are exactly great with their singing, and if they hadn't been members of Queen, very few people would want to hear them sing the Queen songs in the first place. (This is also something they realised themselves. The whole +Paul Rodgers -angle is just a trick to fool the general audience into thinking they have a vocalist, and still manage to sing as many of the songs as possible by themselves...) 2nd point - are you being silly? |
| Daz85 02.08.2005 10:32 |
willem-jan wrote:AKOM was better performed as the tour went on. Unlike UP, they had time on tour to get this one down better.Darren Robins wrote: As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about.Well, that didn't stop them from playin AKOM. But that's a whole different story. Too bad UP is not on the DVD/CD, but hey, we've still got the boots to listen to. |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2005 11:01 |
I think the performance is actually pretty good. There's some real passion there, and Roger has sung this song live by himself with great success. The instrumentation/arrangment is exquisite, too -- it's a real study of restraint, letting the song take over. Sorry for the purple prose. Writing an academic paper while I surf the boards. |
| Tero 03.08.2005 01:00 |
Darren Robins wrote:Say It's Not True, '39, Days Of Our Lives, Radio Ga Ga, Hammer To Fall... I can accept one song from Bri and Rog, but there's hardly any need for a longer break than 15 minutes for Paul.Tero wrote:Your first point - what songs then? 2nd point - are you being silly?Darren Robins wrote: As mentioned, its a performance quality issue that they arn't happy about.In that case they probably should have chosen to cut quite a few other songs from the upcoming album as well. ;) Neither Bri or Rog are exactly great with their singing, and if they hadn't been members of Queen, very few people would want to hear them sing the Queen songs in the first place. (This is also something they realised themselves. The whole +Paul Rodgers -angle is just a trick to fool the general audience into thinking they have a vocalist, and still manage to sing as many of the songs as possible by themselves...) I'm not being silly. Bri & Rog are third rate singers at their best, and if they had not been members of Queen you wouldn't even want to hear them sing! To put it in perspective, if you had gone to a Queen concert twenty years ago, and find out that Freddie was doing all the guitar solos, you might have been a bit pissed of. |
| Mr. Scully 03.08.2005 08:35 |
Brian and Roger are third rate singers??? Roger's range is about 3 octaves, Brian's is 2.5 or something... damn, I really wish I was such a third rate singer! |
| gnomo 04.08.2005 04:11 |
... me too, Scully (I can't sing at all), but we can't deny that Bri can sound really awful when he tries to sing like the Red Special - while he's wonderfully good when he rememebers to sing like Brian May... :-) ... and I'd spend hours listening to Roger, FWIW... |
| Tero 04.08.2005 04:20 |
Mr. Scully wrote: Brian and Roger are third rate singers???Yes. They suck, and the only reason why most people listen to them is because they were members of Queen. I'm guilty of that myself. I have bought the solo records and listen to them from time to time. If they hadn't been in Queen, I wouldn't have given them second thought. :P I did however pay for the QPR show in the hopes of actually hearing the SINGER of that particular combination singing those Queen songs, so you can imagine my disappointment. |
| deleted user 04.08.2005 05:59 |
i bet it will be Roger and Bri listened to each version they did on the tour, wembley, manchester etc, and probably thought they did crap with it or it sounds crap so to save there rep as great artists not to include it in the dvd/cd which could then make people like critics have a go at them with snotty comments about how they performed a extremely good song! my opinion anyways! :D |
| Daniel Nester 04.08.2005 10:09 |
Both Brian and Roger's solo albums are what they are -- solo albums. That's why they call them solo albums. By which I mean they are in a band, and now they are doing things, solo. I just think it's necessary to clarify that. The popularity of Queen is such that people will come to see them play solo or combined. This isn't new -- John Entiwstle filled up halls when he was alive, as did Roger Daltrey. But my main point -- and I do have one -- is that this pouncing on Brian and Roger's singing skills is absurd and mean-spirited. It's like picking on Keith Richards' singing on his solo albums -- which are great, mind you -- or Entwistle's -- which are also quite good. These voices are/were *inherent* to how you listened to the whole band's sound. And these are not crap bands or third-rate bands. To take it apart and pick on it, it's ridiculous. The whole is much more than the sum of the part. Which is why the Queen + Paul Rodgers tour has been a success. |
| Daniel Nester 04.08.2005 10:12 |
Sorry to get worked up about this, but I have every piece of music I can get by Brian and Roger, and I enjoy their stuff very much. Roger's Fun In Space and Strange Frontier are some of my favorite albums, period. And I have, like 3000+ albums (too much, I'm selling off a lot of them now). They're just really low-fi projects with a lot of feeling, and the songs are really great. And Brian's Star Fleet EP is just great. Brian's singing is great, the guitar jams are great. I've just always had a hard time thinking of being a Queen fan in general and not liking Brian and Roger's voice. They're all over those harmonies, even when they don't take lead vocals. |
| Daniel Nester 04.08.2005 10:13 |
Sorry to get worked up about this, but I have every piece of music I can get by Brian and Roger, and I enjoy their stuff very much. Roger's Fun In Space and Strange Frontier are some of my favorite albums, period. And I have, like 3000+ albums (too much, I'm selling off a lot of them now). They're just really low-fi projects with a lot of feeling, and the songs are really great. And Brian's Star Fleet EP is just great. Brian's singing is great, the guitar jams are great. I've just always had a hard time thinking of being a Queen fan in general and not liking Brian and Roger's voice. They're all over those harmonies, even when they don't take lead vocals. |
| Fenderek 05.08.2005 10:15 |
Weird- on queenonline there's the whole package info and in the setlist SHOW MUST GO ON is missing- I hope it was just some stupid mistake 'cause TSMGO was one of the best tracks on tour!!! |
| Walter B. 05.08.2005 10:20 |
TSMGO is listed on the tracklist as published on link, so I think/hope it is a mistake... |
| Fenderek 05.08.2005 10:23 |
Fucking hell- Feel Like Makin Love is also missing- and that was my ABSOLUTELY fav track on the tour |
| Hankster 06.08.2005 04:55 |
Fenderek wrote: Fucking hell- Feel Like Makin Love is also missing- and that was my ABSOLUTELY fav track on the tourehm .. just take a look at track #12 ;) hmm .. UP is just great fun .. it's a shame they don't include it at the CD/DVD .. maybe as an easter-egg? ;) |
| Tero 08.08.2005 01:38 |
Daniel Nester wrote: But my main point -- and I do have one -- is that this pouncing on Brian and Roger's singing skills is absurd and mean-spirited. It's like picking on Keith Richards' singing on his solo albums -- which are great, mind you -- or Entwistle's -- which are also quite good.I'm sorry that you don't like my justified critisism. I'll just shut up right after this message. You MIGHT have a point if Keith Richards' solo albums were released under the Rolling Stones name, but right now there is no correlation whatsoever to what I said in this topic. I don't have a problem with the Bri & Rog solo albums, but I do have a problem with the misleading marketing of the QPR shows. |