Fone Bone 27.07.2005 11:00 |
Lots of people seem think that the Magic Tour setlist was lame, and too "80's hits oriented". Hmmmm... What about the miraculous return of In The Lap Of The Gods ? The acoustic part ? Seven Seas Of Rhye ? Liar (well, a bit of it), Immigrant Song, Big friggin' Spender as a first encore ?! Good enough for me, even with the infamous inclusion of Friends Will Be Friends between WWRY and WATC! |
Fone Bone 27.07.2005 11:36 |
:) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demanding |
tilomagnet 27.07.2005 11:51 |
IMO the Works tour had the perfect mix of old and new material, Freddie played much more piano again than on the HS tour, but unfortunately the overall performance and Freddie's voice were mostly weaker compared to other tours. For the Magic tour:I like these shows very much, but I think they could really have performed more old songs and it would have been no problem to add one or two songs more to the setlist with the average show lenght being ca.105 minutes. |
wstüssyb 27.07.2005 12:06 |
Those who hate the magic tour can go to hell!!! Robbie William rules! Queen should have gotten him for the magic tour, would have made it a lot better since Freddies voice was horriable during that tour... |
luthorn 27.07.2005 13:10 |
Magic tour was OK. Hardly any variation in the songlist plus the band played like they either don't care or they're bored. It is especially evident at Knebworth, the last stop on the tour and the show has no energy. Listen to Hammersmith 79, MK 82, even Rock in Rio had a lot of energy. The only good show from magic tour was Budapest and the only reason why Queen played good was that the show was behind the iron curtain and they wanted to give the best show ever, and so they did. |
doremi 27.07.2005 13:18 |
wstüssyb wrote: Those who hate the magic tour can go to hell!!! Robbie William rules! Queen should have gotten him for the magic tour, would have made it a lot better since Freddies voice was horriable during that tour...LOL William! BTW, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Magic Tour! Just because their earlier tours were better, does not take any merit away from the Magic Tour in itself. I thought Knebworth did suck. But maybe they were just tired from touring and it would have been better to go out on with a bang, on top at either Wembley or Budapest. But overall, the tour was good, I love the songs, new as well as old, and I thought Freddie's voice and the band's musicianship was just fine. |
Rick 27.07.2005 14:05 |
The opening show in Stockholm 1986 and Paris 1986 are the best shows of the tour, IMHO. Freddie in excellent shape. |
mrjordy 27.07.2005 14:30 |
Alex, I saw Robert Plant on the 4th of this month in Portsmouth, VA. Though granted, he totally sucked on "Innuendo" at the Freddie tribute, his vocals were absolutely intact and amazing earlier this month. I was particuarly impressed with his encore "Whole Lotta Love", which sounded absolutely precisely as it did when it was first recorded. He was absolutely amazing. |
flash00. 27.07.2005 15:14 |
ahh.. the magic tour..memories :) i loved the magic tour freddie's voice was great and more powerfull on some shows and some he seemed tired but he was still !! spectacular it's just that we/fans expect that same high standard every single show lol, who knows freddie's illness may have effected him in some ways b/c it was only one year after he was suffering a hell of alot etc. he was amazing at newcastle! there was nothing wrong with r-plants voice at the tribute he just couldn't sing a queen song he himself admitted most perfomers had to change the key to the songs as they couldn't do a freddie!! i think everyone at some point has an off day that includes freddie. |
onevsion 27.07.2005 16:50 |
<font color=green>Rick wrote: The opening show in Stockholm 1986 and Paris 1986 are the best shows of the tour, IMHO. Freddie in excellent shape.hmmm i really don't like the opening show. Maybe Freddie is in good shape but the audience is really annoying. They are screaming: "fuck you, we want Marrilion" and things like that. I like Budapest 1986. |
luthorn 27.07.2005 23:40 |
I actually like that song!!! |
Freddie May 28.07.2005 03:59 |
I always thought that Knebworth was the best show of the tour because people always request this concert to be released !?! And I think Plant has an excellent voice and if it's not as good as it used to be it's still very impressive anyway IMO ;) |
s.m. 28.07.2005 07:20 |
i heard or seen 6 or seven shows from that tour budapest is the best imo |
Fenderek 28.07.2005 07:24 |
Budapest and Knebworth are awesome. Even first night at Wembley was better than the one on DVD... Setlist? I didn't like it- it was nice they came back to In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited after 11-12 years- and witha different version. That was awesome. But too many piano based songs were dropped IMO, especially STL... It was too much of Works- AKOM hits IMO- don't like both albums so the setlist with majority of the singles from that era is not what I like... And it was less ROCK than any other tour (together with WORKS). AND Brian's guitar sound on that tour was just absolutly AWFUL... |
s.m. 28.07.2005 07:26 |
tilomagnet wrote: IMO the Works tour had the perfect mix of old and new material, Freddie played much more piano again than on the HS tour, but unfortunately the overall performance and Freddie's voice were mostly weaker compared to other tours.i see everybody noticed that great setlist, poor tour what went wrong on the works tour? |
The Mir@cle 28.07.2005 07:29 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Guys... Innuendo was released as a single in January 1991. Freddie wasn't able anymore to do a live show at that time.Alex Solan wrote:Well, neither Roger nor Freddie had the technical capacity to do the intro, I'm afraid. If Freddie had done it, he'd not have any vocal cords left for the rest of the show! I do feel that the song'd have been better if he had bothered to learn the words!Fone Bone wrote: :) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demandingThere's a difference between Plant and Freddie, Freddie could have done a better version than that one but he didn't... dunno why. Plant at that time (1992) couldn't. Plant WAS a great singer, not anymore. |
Freddie May 28.07.2005 07:35 |
s.m. wrote:i see everybody noticed that great setlist, poor tour what went wrong on the works tour?Freddie's voice I suppose... |
Fenderek 28.07.2005 07:37 |
s.m. wrote: i see everybody noticed that great setlist, poor tour what went wrong on the works tour?Drum sound Keyboards too high on the mix (and sometimes Spike's BVs as well) Freddie too often in a bad shape (vocally) Terrible costumes... |
s.m. 28.07.2005 07:46 |
i mean the last japan for example in 85´ stage looks great, freddie at that particular concert sounded good, but that weird drums what is that? they sounded like shit and piano on tie your mother down i mean wtf and brian is hardly heard, his gituar is kind of silent i mean, there were some bad decisions made od that tour shame, because of great setlist |
@ndy38 28.07.2005 07:48 |
I agree with the fact that there wasn't enough old material on the set list, i would have really loved it if they put in songs like somebody to love and spread your wings etc. But they included In the Lap of The Gods, which is one of my favourite songs, so i guess everythings ok lol I only really know the setlist they had for Wembley, so i couldn't really comment on the whole tour, as i know they varied some parts of the setlist slightly for different shows. |
Jean Luc 2000 28.07.2005 08:33 |
I don't know what you lot are moaning about there being lots of songs from AKOM. After all this WAS the magic tour and not the night at the opera or the crazy tour so of course they played songs from that album! What’s the point on going on tour playing mostly old songs? |
The Mir@cle 28.07.2005 08:45 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Sorry, didn't read the posts good enough... missed the point of the 'Immigrant Song'.The Mir@cle wrote:What are you talking about? We're comparing Freddie's screw-up on 'Immigrant Song' in Berlin '86 and Plant's screw-up on 'Innuendo' at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in '92.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Guys... Innuendo was released as a single in January 1991. Freddie wasn't able anymore to do a live show at that time.Alex Solan wrote:Well, neither Roger nor Freddie had the technical capacity to do the intro, I'm afraid. If Freddie had done it, he'd not have any vocal cords left for the rest of the show! I do feel that the song'd have been better if he had bothered to learn the words!Fone Bone wrote: :) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demandingThere's a difference between Plant and Freddie, Freddie could have done a better version than that one but he didn't... dunno why. Plant at that time (1992) couldn't. Plant WAS a great singer, not anymore. |
wstüssyb 28.07.2005 08:53 |
correct me if im wrong, but immigrant song a spur of the moment kind of thing and that Inuuendo was rehersed? So thats like me trying out a new sport compared to some one who had time to get ready... |
Fenderek 28.07.2005 09:10 |
wstüssyb wrote: correct me if im wrong, but immigrant song a spur of the moment kind of thing and that Inuuendo was rehersed? So thats like me trying out a new sport compared to some one who had time to get ready...I agree- same goes for Gimme All Your Lovin'- Freddie wasn't even singing the right lyrics- I almost feel he was singing something else :) But as something just for fun, spontanously- that's all right... Immigrant Sond really sucked but... at least we've got an interesting bootleg. :) They should have do things like that more often :) |
Fone Bone 28.07.2005 10:45 |
Agreed ! These funny attempts are too far and between in Queen's touring career (Not Fade Away, Silent Night...) Look at U2 : they quote about a dozen songs at every show ! But then maybe that's a tad too many... Do you have any idea why they never embraced rolling setlits ? You know the time Freddie played a few chords of Spread Your Wings in 82, he didn't remember the song at all...I assume they only rehearsed the songs they were certain to play during the whole tour, no more, no less...Whereas a guy like Bowie can rehearse 50 songs before he goes on tour ! |
The Real Wizard 29.07.2005 03:41 |
Fone Bone wrote: Agreed ! These funny attempts are too far and between in Queen's touring career (Not Fade Away, Silent Night...) Look at U2 : they quote about a dozen songs at every show ! But then maybe that's a tad too many... Do you have any idea why they never embraced rolling setlits ? You know the time Freddie played a few chords of Spread Your Wings in 82, he didn't remember the song at all...I assume they only rehearsed the songs they were certain to play during the whole tour, no more, no less...Whereas a guy like Bowie can rehearse 50 songs before he goes on tour !Good observations. I must say, I'm disappointed by the way Queen would rarely meander from the regular setlist. |
MercuryArts 29.07.2005 11:11 |
mrjordy wrote: Alex, I saw Robert Plant on the 4th of this month in Portsmouth, VA. Though granted, he totally sucked on "Innuendo" at the Freddie tribute, his vocals were absolutely intact and amazing earlier this month. I was particuarly impressed with his encore "Whole Lotta Love", which sounded absolutely precisely as it did when it was first recorded. He was absolutely amazing.I saw that show in Philly in late June. I thought he was good. The show could have been longer; On & off after encores in under 90 minutes! But WLL got a great 13 minute workout! Thats The Way was spot on! My favorite accustic Zep song! |
The Real Wizard 29.07.2005 15:03 |
I can't believe I turned down seeing Plant... I've heard so many glowing reviews. |
Lester Burnham 29.07.2005 15:10 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:This is something I was always disappointed with, too - they never deviated and always played it safe. Maybe it was for the lighting engineer's benefit? Who knows.Fone Bone wrote: Agreed ! These funny attempts are too far and between in Queen's touring career (Not Fade Away, Silent Night...) Look at U2 : they quote about a dozen songs at every show ! But then maybe that's a tad too many... Do you have any idea why they never embraced rolling setlits ? You know the time Freddie played a few chords of Spread Your Wings in 82, he didn't remember the song at all...I assume they only rehearsed the songs they were certain to play during the whole tour, no more, no less...Whereas a guy like Bowie can rehearse 50 songs before he goes on tour !Good observations. I must say, I'm disappointed by the way Queen would rarely meander from the regular setlist. Whereas Elvis Costello plays a different set list of different songs every night... |
bitesthedust 29.07.2005 16:58 |
Jean Luc 2000 wrote: I don't know what you lot are moaning about there being lots of songs from AKOM. After all this WAS the magic tour and not the night at the opera or the crazy tour so of course they played songs from that album! What’s the point on going on tour playing mostly old songs?like the ones from The Works tour, you mean? Aside from the inclusion of In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited, plus the 4 Magic songs, is there any real surprises in Queen material? |
Panza Pedraza - FER 30.07.2005 19:08 |
Did the band planned to add at least one or two another songs to the setlist of the Magic tour? I know they always played the same songlist with a slight variations like KYA once. But if they planned to add more songs, which were those ones? |
Panza Pedraza - FER 03.08.2005 11:30 |
Mmmmm... nobody can answer? |
wstüssyb 03.08.2005 13:49 |
KYA and Dragon attack were in some rehersals, during the Magic tour. I believe one of the guys that worked with setting up the equip said something about when the band 1st met up for the Magic tour to reherse there was quite a long list of songs, around 40, and was brought down and changed quite a lot before the actual start of the tour. |
Panza Pedraza - FER 03.08.2005 19:24 |
Thank you wstüssyb |
Gordie Howe 03.08.2005 21:06 |
Is the part of Liar and Immagrant Song on the CDs? Stupid question yeah I know. |
QueenZeppelin 05.08.2005 18:37 |
FightFromTheInside wrote: Is the part of Liar and Immagrant Song on the CDs? Stupid question yeah I know.Liar? Yes. Immigrant Song? No. |
Bobby_brown 06.08.2005 10:00 |
I think that magic tour was their best. And Knebworth was top class in everything, sound, voice, everything. And by that time Freddie was 40 years and probably he already knew about is ilness. I sometimes feel depressed about little things, and really feel that i don't want to get out of bed. This guy knew about aids, and instead of depression, he went along to make that wonderfull tour, allways smiling to the fans. Incredible, i trully admire Freddie for it!! And he probably knew that the Magic tour would be his last, so that might be a reason to make something like a Gratest Hits tour, instead of Kind of magic stuff. But in the end it worked out very well!!! Take care Take care |
Freddie F 06.08.2005 10:30 |
Personally, I don't count "One Vision" as a AKOM track, because it had been issued as a single many months before the album's release - like "Save Me" on "The Game" or "Under Pressure" on "Hot Space", they added this song to the album to have stronger material on it. So, for me, there were only 3 songs from AKOM played on the Magic Tour (AKOM, WWTLF and FWBF) and it shows a lot of things! When a world-famous band plays very few new songs on stage, it means the band isn't really proud of its new album (see the Rolling Stones with every album since... oh, I dunno when!). Anyway, a song which really should have been played live on this tour is "Princes Of The Universe". It would have been a great addition to the setlist, but I think Freddie didn't feel his voice was strong enough to sing it at every show... Apart from this, the song selection was OK for me (good mix of old and new material), but rather boring because of this never-changing setlist. |
deleted user 06.08.2005 10:39 |
im my opinion, i love the magic tour better than the works, for me it goes Magic, Hot Space, Works etc etc, only cos songs such as Ga Ga, Under Pressure were performed what i thought was the best way possible, but from what iv got as boots so far i think think Budapest rocked! excellent show, but Wembley sucked ass! i honestly dont like Wembley, Knebowrth i liked, Berlin iv yet to hear (downloading) but i think Manhiem and Vienna were some of the best in my honest opinion. Wembley though, nah! |
deleted user 08.08.2005 18:50 |
Fone Bone wrote: :) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demandingWell he butched double, take CLTCL... |
deleted user 08.08.2005 18:57 |
Alex Solan<br><font size=1>Japan soon bastards! wrote:Yeah PLANT could sing very good, but after Bonham's dead led Zep wasn't Led Zep anymore.Fone Bone wrote: :) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demandingThere's a difference between Plant and Freddie, Freddie could have done a better version than that one but he didn't... dunno why. Plant at that time (1992) couldn't. Plant WAS a great singer, not anymore. And apart from that Plant's performance made me think of nasty old men who didn't remember their age nor that the sixties have ended. |
Fone Bone 09.08.2005 07:13 |
<font color=black>The Lord Of Darkness wrote:I think you're being a little hard on the guy ! Sure he can't sing like he used to in the late 60's - 70's, but he's still a great singer, and CLTCL wasn't so bad IMHO. And along with Daltrey and Bowie, he was among the real rock legends on stage on that day. Not that I dislike Paul Young, Def Leppard and Lisa Stansfield, but you know...Fone Bone wrote: :) Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT ! But then the both these songs are very demandingWell he butched double, take CLTCL... |
Fenderek 09.08.2005 07:43 |
I dunno- I LOVBED Crazy Little Thing... He fucked up INNUENDO big time, but I really liked Crazy.. It was different- and taht was the point... |
Asterik 27.01.2006 13:26 |
I thought the setlist was crying out for older songs. This would have been mine. One Vision Tie Your Mother Down Play the Game Death On Two legs Somebody to Love Mustapha A Kind Of Magic Another One Bites the Dust Under Pressure Brighton Rock (full) Now I'm Here Love Of my Life Las Parablas De Amor (acoustic) Ogre Battle Tear It Up Bohemain Rhapsody Hammer To Fall Crazy Little Thing Called Love Radio Ga Ga Princes of The Universe We Will Rock You In the Lap of the Gods We Are the Champions |
Lester Burnham 27.01.2006 13:36 |
I would've preferred they dropped the medleys and started playing the songs full: Princes Of The Universe (great opener, straight into) Tie Your Mother Down Somebody To Love It's A Hard Life A Kind Of Magic Under Pressure Another One Bites The Dust Who Wants To Live Forever I Want To Break Free Friends Will Be Friends Save Me Guitar Solo Now I'm Here Love Of My Life Is This The World We Created? You're So Square Hello Mary Lou Tutti Frutti Bohemian Rhapsody Hammer To Fall Crazy Little Thing Called Love In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited Encore 1: One Vision Radio Ga Ga Encore 2: We Will Rock You We Are The Champions God Save The Queen |
bitesthedust 27.01.2006 13:42 |
Things I would personally have changed to the Magic Tour setlist : 1) Reduce the number of songs from "The Works" album on the tour. 2) Replace the Covers Medley (You're So Square, Hello Mary Lou, Tutti Frutti (and some nights, Gimme Some Lovin'))with an medley of older Queen songs - 39, Long Away etc... 3) Princes Of The Universe would have been in the set, perhaps after the encore break. |
Asterik 28.01.2006 06:08 |
bitesthedust<br><h6>The QZ gentleman... wrote: Things I would personally have changed to the Magic Tour setlist : 1) Reduce the number of songs from "The Works" album on the tour. 2) Replace the Covers Medley (You're So Square, Hello Mary Lou, Tutti Frutti (and some nights, Gimme Some Lovin'))with an medley of older Queen songs - 39, Long Away etc... 3) Princes Of The Universe would have been in the set, perhaps after the encore break.You sum it up perfectly.... |
Asterik 28.01.2006 06:13 |
s.m. wrote:tilomagnet wrote: IMO the Works tour had the perfect mix of old and new material, Freddie played much more piano again than on the HS tour, but unfortunately the overall performance and Freddie's voice were mostly weaker compared to other tours.I agree Fred played piano on STL, KQ, IAHL, BH, WATC at least. Thesetlist was an ideal mix and you're right about his voice-I actually thought he sang bette ron the Magic tour. |
Asterik 28.01.2006 06:16 |
tilomagnet wrote: For the Magic tour:I like these shows very much, but I think they could really have performed more old songs and it would have been no problem to add one or two songs more to the setlist with the average show lenght being ca.105 minutes.Quite right again. They could have thrown one hard rocker in- Ogre Battle and maybe something like Death on Two Legs as well. If you get rid of the pointless 50s medley then you get another 7 minutes to cover Don't Stop me Now and maybe Sheer heart Attack |