| mike hunt 27.07.2005 08:47 |
as you know, later this year queen's 30th year anniversery of 'anato' is comming out, but does anyone know what the DVD part is? the article say's it's a cd and dvd package. is this dvd live? |
| inu-liger 27.07.2005 08:54 |
I'm assuming the DVD is partly an updated 5.1 remix of the album, as God Save The Queen will finally be featured in true 5.1 surround sound, since they only recently re-discovered the missing multitrack master tape. |
| Fenderek 27.07.2005 09:01 |
so let me get this straight. the special 30th anniversary ANATO is the tracks we already know (is it the remaster we already know? th emini vinyl one?) and the 5.1 dvd-a that we also already know? Oh no- I forgot- that's the new super amazing 5.1 mix of God Save The queen in there that we don't know!!! Wow- what a treat!!! Am I the only one who thinks this is bullshit (if it's true...)? |
| Serry... 27.07.2005 09:07 |
You're not the only one (if it's true...) |
| Benn 27.07.2005 09:30 |
It's likely to be a 3 disc set: 1 - ANATO in DVD 5:1 surround sound 2 - ANATO in another re-mastered / remixed audio CD format. 3 - ANATO out-takes, demos, alternate versions etc Sure, it's a rip off in a sense, but then a disc full of rarities etc will be worth any money in my book. The packaging will likely be along the same lines as the great 3 disc release of The Kinks Are The The Village Green Preservation Society from earlier this year. it's not my ideal way of doing it, but then again, when have QPL ever listened to what fans want. |
| Richard Orchard 27.07.2005 10:02 |
if we don't get loads and loads of rare stuff, i am going to give up on Queen once and for all. |
| Fenderek 27.07.2005 10:04 |
It's just provided that there really is going to be a 3rd CD- than I don't mind the other two- hell, than I'm happy they have this 5.1 God Save The Queen (I really couldn't acre less about this track though...). I have a gut feeling tough it may end up with just 2- cd and dvd... Well- that's me after years of observing QP actions anyway... Hope I'll eat my words. If you're right Benn (about 3rd CD full of rarities)- I'm happy. |
| NJQueenFan 27.07.2005 11:36 |
Will it come out in the US? |
| Negative Creep 27.07.2005 12:06 |
If the boxsets are still scheduled for some sort of release... I would have thought it was highy unlikely any real rarities would surface on a re-issue of ANATO. |
| Benn 27.07.2005 12:25 |
The box sets have been cancelled and are being replaced in terms of planning by the roll out of 3-cd / dvd sets like the ANATO release this Christmas. |
| mike hunt 27.07.2005 12:28 |
they could also puts a few rare bonus tracks on the disc, instead of those bogus remixes from the 91 releases, that's even a bigger ripoff. i'm still hoping for a live dvd of that era, but i know we'll never get that. |
| mike hunt 27.07.2005 12:33 |
'benn' that story changes all the time, first there was supposed to be box sets, then it was cancelled in favor of releasing every album with rarities from each era, then that was cancelled, now the box sets are back on for a release of 2009. got that. |
| Penetration_Guru 27.07.2005 15:35 |
WHat's the source for this "3 disc" allegation? |
| Lord Fickle 27.07.2005 16:01 |
I reckon this will just be the 5.1 DVD-A soundtrack, with GSTQ restored (big f**king deal), and my guess would be that the BBC Bohemian Rhspsody documentary will appear somewhere in the package. It would very much surprise me if QPL gave us anything very exciting. To be honest, unless there is a bonus CD of previously unreleased rarities (not just I'm In Love With My Car 7" single mix), I'd much rather have some more DVD-As. What's happened to the rumoured QII and ADATR DVD-As? That said, you never know, we might get the 9 minute Bohemian Rhapsody! ;) |
| s.m. 27.07.2005 17:57 |
Lord Fickle wrote: That said, you never know, we might get the 9 minute Bohemian Rhapsody! ;)or 15 minute the propeth song now that would be cool :) |
| doremi 27.07.2005 18:22 |
Alex Solan wrote:Agree with you guys. Worried they're screwing with us again.Richard Orchard wrote: if we don't get loads and loads of rare stuff, i am going to give up on Queen once and for all.HAHA! I got the same feeling... and I have also a bad feeling about the so-called Anthology Box next to be released on 2009 (pffft)... Will it be FULL of rarities, outtakes and remastered B-sides, live stuff and others, as Bon Jovi's 100,000,000 BJ fans can't be wrong Box Set? - sorry for the example... my girlfriend bought that recently xD Fenderek wrote: so let me get this straight. the special 30th anniversary ANATO is the tracks we already know (is it the remaster we already know? th emini vinyl one?) and the 5.1 dvd-a that we also already know? Oh no- I forgot- that's the new super amazing 5.1 mix of God Save The queen in there that we don't know!!! Wow- what a treat!!! Am I the only one who thinks this is bullshit (if it's true...)?No..count me in as a doubting thomas as well and yes it is bullshit! |
| inu-liger 27.07.2005 19:02 |
Whether there are unreleased rarities from the vaults included or not, I'll still buy it. Just mostly cos of GSTQ 5.1 |
| Michael Allred 27.07.2005 19:30 |
Alex Solan wrote: Will it come out here? I'm sure 'bout the answer: No.You're sure huh? It WAS mentioned in the US press release about the American concerts, live cd/dvd and tribute album. So I'm pretty sure it WILL be released in the USA. |
| Tero 28.07.2005 01:08 |
Maybe I'm just being overly pessimistic here, but to me the "special anniversary DVD and CD" sounds like they will release the old CD and DVDA separately, and just put a 30th Anniversary -sticker on the cover... :P |
| Rompez 28.07.2005 06:36 |
Or "we will rock you" musical sticker :D |
| Benn 28.07.2005 06:54 |
Source of the 3disc set: A contact of mine at EMI. Same source that tells me the box set has been cancelled. |
| Fenderek 28.07.2005 07:27 |
OK- I really hope your source is right about the 3rd disc... |
| Serry... 28.07.2005 07:29 |
And I hope it's wrong about box-set... |
| Fenderek 28.07.2005 07:37 |
Serry... wrote: And I hope it's wrong about box-set...Ditto :) |
| Daveboy35 28.07.2005 09:11 |
I have it on good authority that the dvd will include the full hammersmith 75 gig to conicide off the release of anato,wow can't wait for that,defintely one for santa this year. And also the 8 and a half minute version of bohemian rhapsody will finally get its airing WOWWWWWWWWW!!!. |
| Bobby_brown 28.07.2005 09:14 |
Fenderek wrote: OK- I really hope your source is right about the 3rd disc...But that doesn't make sense if the 3 CD contains an audio CD and a DVD audio. Just doesn´t make any sense to me. Here's what i think: If they want to release the DVD audio coupled with another product, they could do for example: DVD- "Classic album series- A Night at the Opera"-this should be a documentary about that album with interviews from ALL the members, producers, etc, like other documentaries you all know about. This DVD could be released with the DVD audio. This pack would make more sense to me. And at the same time they could releas the re-master CD audio format with a second disc containing rarities or Live songs from that period. Since A Night At The OPera was the album that contains more songs played live (only 2 songs weren't performed live) they could put on the second disc the live version of a Night at the Opera. For me , this would make more sense, but i know that Queen Productions doesn't want to flood the market with Queen products , BLa, Bla... Take care |
| Fenderek 28.07.2005 09:35 |
Bobby_brown wrote: But that doesn't make sense if the 3 CD contains an audio CD and a DVD audio. Just doesn´t make any sense to me.Of course it doesn't- read carefully :) the idea is: 1st disc- ANATO (probably old 2001 remasters) 2nd disc- 5.1 version 3rd disc- out-takes, rarities, unreleased stuff etc... |
| Queen Number 1 In 2005 28.07.2005 09:40 |
I Think The dvd Part Is An Opera Tour Concert |
| Queen Number 1 In 2005 28.07.2005 09:40 |
I Think The dvd Part Is An Opera Tour Concert |
| Lord Fickle 28.07.2005 09:59 |
I would put money on it (well, perhaps not), that the DVD part will be the BBC Documentary. I really can't see QP going to the effort of giving us anything 'new', when they know we will buy it anyway. Money for old rope, if you ask me. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 28.07.2005 10:08 |
This is the litmus test for Queen Prodcutions as far as I'm concerned, regarding the manner in which they handle this. The entire band has always been vocal about the lack of respect Queen received as artists during their career. Whether it's better or not than Queen II or SHA, ANATO is perceived as the defining moment of Queen's career. It's when they hit their stride as artists, writers and producers, and stands up as one of the great albums of all time, and for my money, side 2 is arguably the most creatively ambitious side of music in the history of rock and roll. QP can either acknowledge this by giving fans a package worthy of the album itself with outatkes, a doc on Bo Rhap, the making of the album, etc., or they can do what they've doing for the past 15 years, putting out product under the Queen name just to make the cash registers sing. If they do, they'll have missed a golden opportunity to shine a spotlight on THE album that defines their career as artists. I hope they get it right. |
| great king rat 1138 28.07.2005 10:35 |
Fenderek wrote: already know? Oh no- I forgot- that's the new super amazing 5.1 mix of God Save The queen in there that we don't know!!!You've heard it in stereo with the missing sections, Tom. They premiered it after Hyde Park. This bullshit is a total and complete rip off! If QPL were to release a boxset (or three as was initially suggested) in the same format as the Freddie Solo set, I would be more than happy to go out and buy it/them; but by trying to make us fans go out to spend our hard-earned/hard-stolen cash on repackaged versions of albums that we already own just to get a dvd-a version, which (for ANATO) probably hardly differs from the one released in 2002 and a couple of (probably widely available) bonus tracks is simply revealing them as the money-grabbing bastards that they are. I'm off to storm the winter palace, who's with me? |
| Wet Willie 28.07.2005 11:16 |
My two cents: not very sensible With the way EMI have been treating the Queen fans (free Boh Rhap and so on...), best not get our hopes up. Knowing how this album sells it might be like David Bowie's Ziggy 30th release. OK-ish but nothing super great. A gig from that era would be great - as this is my favourite - so Hammermith could be in it (requested by many fans over the years) in DVD or CD (both?). |
| Lord Fickle 28.07.2005 11:27 |
There's no way EMI, or QPL are going to 'give away' something like Hammy '75, when they could release it in it's own right, and rake in a fortune. |
| Jjeroen 28.07.2005 11:35 |
Well, since they say that the masters are too bad quality-wise for an official release on it's own: let it be Hyde Park then! Fits in with the era of ANATO even more then Hammy. |
| Negative Creep 28.07.2005 12:00 |
"Well, since they say that the masters are too bad quality-wise for an official release on it's own" BOLLOCKS. At the very least (if this is indeed a 3 disc collection) it should contain a disc of demos & outtakes, plus Hammersmith '75 on DVD (with the un-filmed tracks as audio only tracks). But, didn't Greg Brooks recently state that Hammersamith '75 was scheduled for release, then cancelled? But then... maybe it was cancelled to be included in the ANATO set?? Why can't Brian comment oon this stuff, instead of moaning about being famous? |
| mike hunt 28.07.2005 12:15 |
if this package was to contain rarities and a live show of that era, i think it would have leaked out. i think we will be disapointed queen fans, but at least there's hope, at least we got 'return of the champions' comming out soon. |
| Bobby_brown 28.07.2005 13:04 |
Since August last year i've spent on Queen: Live at the Bowl DVD -22€ Live at the Bowl CD -18€ Live at the Bowl vinyl-30€ Ticket for Lisbon concert-45€ LIVE AID (I bought this because of Queen)-50€ Greatest Hits DVD 1(promotion)- 15€ Greatest Hits DVD 2- 26€ Zuchero Live at Albert HAll (features Brian May)- 22€ The Works CD (this CD was too expensive so i wated untill the price went down, and since i was spending my money on bootlegs i didn't care much about oficial CD's.)- 10€ Not counting with mags (mojo, classic rock, guitar mag, guitarrist, etc), and other Queeb related items, i've spent on this guys: More or less - 238€. This is a lot of money just for one band, because i like others as well, and the reason i still buy them it's because i started colecting them 14 years ago. Now, if this 30 year MATO edition doesn't do justice to their name and to their fans, all i can say is: FUCK THEM!! I'm really tired of Queen productions and their releases. And Brian and Roger aren't saints here too!! If you think carefully, why would this guys release everything now? They have in their archive videos and audio stuff that couold enternain you for more 10 or 20 years. That's a lot of money!! And that's all they care. The criteria is : "Will it reach number one?" I think that for them (Brian And Roger) this is a very important issue, so i really don't think that this guys would release things just to please a few!! take care |
| Daveboy35 28.07.2005 13:39 |
I think queen productions will surprise us this time guys by giving us what we've mean dying for,and would really love to hear john deacon sing "your my best friend" guide vocal with freddie as one of the outtakes. |
| Negative Creep 28.07.2005 13:56 |
I very much doubt they will surprise anyone.... it isn't in their interests. I can't see this re-issue featuring unreleased recordings at all... instrumental remixes are far more likely from QP. I can see the Bo Rap BBC3 docu rearing its head quite soon... yippee!! I don't see QP issuing demos or anything in this form.... as bonus discs to re-issed albums.... how would that generate more sales than a boxset? The albums have been issued several times in the UK (and that includes the Japanese export carboard sleeves) and now theyre all available at rock bottom prices.... not that many people are then going to pay £15-£20 on a new version of an album with a bonus disc of "rarities"... even less people are going to buy every re-issue. A boxset wouldn't need to be that expensive. Its quite feasible to release a 6CD boxset for less than £40... which would be more value for money. |
| Penetration_Guru 28.07.2005 14:29 |
Well, if Benn's source is accurate, no Hammy O, and we're looking at a £25 price point. Mixed feelings - after all the promises that we wouldn't have to buy the same material again. |
| Jjeroen 29.07.2005 04:24 |
Negative Creep wrote: "Well, since they say that the masters are too bad quality-wise for an official release on it's own" BOLLOCKS. At the very least (if this is indeed a 3 disc collection) it should contain a disc of demos & outtakes, plus Hammersmith '75 on DVD (with the un-filmed tracks as audio only tracks). But, didn't Greg Brooks recently state that Hammersamith '75 was scheduled for release, then cancelled? But then... maybe it was cancelled to be included in the ANATO set?? Why can't Brian comment oon this stuff, instead of moaning about being famous?What 'bollocks'? They DID say that the masters of Hyde Park are not good enough for a dvd-release on it's own, and all the other things I said are my opinion/fantasy. So I wonder what the 'bollocks' is all about?! |
| Penis - Vagina 29.07.2005 05:42 |
Whatever the release turns out to be, I'm sure it will offer a fair amount of disappointment, as all hyped up Queen releases have in the past. And Bobby_Brown, I sympathize with you. I keep track of my Queen purchases here: link The majority of those were last year, a lot of replacements for old stuff or stuff I'd sold. I'll buy this, whatever it is, because I enjoy buying Queen products for some reason. |
| Wet Willie 29.07.2005 06:21 |
maybe one of the CD's is a single that only includes the recent live version of Boh Rhap... I wouldn't be surprised seeing as how BHM and RMT are out for the money. As a former collector, I can assure you I've payed a few bricks in they're respective houses. Remember Innuendo - Explosive sersion? |
| Fenderek 29.07.2005 06:35 |
Chrirons wrote: Remember Innuendo - Explosive sersion?I remember how disappointed I was with this "version" ... :) |
| Wet Willie 29.07.2005 07:36 |
Fenderek wrote:Friday type-o's... ahhh... weekend's coming...Chrirons wrote: Remember Innuendo - Explosive sersion?I remember how disappointed I was with this "version" ... :) |
| brENsKi 29.07.2005 07:37 |
You bastards killed my cat wrote: I'll buy this, whatever it is, because I enjoy buying Queen products for some reason.and that's exactly what QU££N prodcutions are banking on...blind indescriminate loyalty |
| Benn 29.07.2005 08:08 |
Creep, re: >At the very least (if this is indeed a 3 disc >collection) it should contain a disc of demos & >outtakes, plus Hammersmith '75 on DVD (with the >un-filmed tracks as audio only tracks). The DVD collection is well under way now and they won't differ from that in terms of live shows. >But, didn't Greg Brooks recently state that >Hammersamith '75 was scheduled for release, >then cancelled? But then... maybe it was >cancelled to be included in the ANATO set?? That just goes to illustrate that GB knows fuck all about what the plans are - don't take anything he says for granted. >Why can't Brian comment oon this stuff, instead >of moaning about being famous? Brian probably doesn't know about any of it himself - he's been consumed by the recent shows (as he should be) and assumes that this kind of thing is being handled by people he trusts to do that. He SHOULD take a more hands on approach to it all, but either can't or doesn't want to. Bobby_Brown, re: >Now, if this 30 year MATO edition doesn't do >justice to their name and to their fans, all i >can say is: > >FUCK THEM!! But it's YOUR CHOICE whether you buy this stuff or not - no one is forcing it into your hands, are they? Whilst I agree in principal, you can't complain if you WILLINGLY go up to the desk in a shop and hand your money over, can you? End of the day: I'll have a look at the product when it hits the shelf - if the packaging is detailed (liner notes & pictures etc), the content *better than what is currently available* and looks to be good quality stuff, I'll buy it. |
| Bobby_brown 29.07.2005 09:32 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:That's my point!!You bastards killed my cat wrote: I'll buy this, whatever it is, because I enjoy buying Queen products for some reason.and that's exactly what QU££N prodcutions are banking on...blind indescriminate loyalty Even though i don't apreciate the product i will buy it because it's an oficial one, and for some reason collectors just can't say no to this stuff, so... For example: For me, the band that has released the best DVD's for the past 4 years are MANOWAR, whether you like them or not!! They don't have so much money as Queen do, or companies support, but their series of "Hell On Earth" DVD's are amongst the best i've ever seen. It has great sound (The best live sound, if you want my opinion!) and it's very entertaining because they added backstage and tour images! Take care |
| Wet Willie 29.07.2005 09:50 |
Bobby_brown wrote:Do like me, go into detox...<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:That's my point!! Even though i don't apreciate the product i will buy it because it's an oficial one, and for some reason collectors just can't say no to this stuff, so...You bastards killed my cat wrote: I'll buy this, whatever it is, because I enjoy buying Queen products for some reason.and that's exactly what QU££N prodcutions are banking on...blind indescriminate loyalty I was a collector too, still have a huge amount of stuff lying around, but as all collectors, I prefered the hunt rather than the catch. And with Internet, the hunt became too easy. But Queen do rely on the fidelity of the fans - as do many bands - and forget some of us can't follow financially speaking. We're (were) getting trapped by the marketing tools used by record companies. If you sit back and think of it, do you really need another copy of ANATO? Why not wait a little while - a few months - and you'll find it on Amazon, eBay or in the record stores cheaper. Mind you, Amazon UK do have a ANATO release planned for October 31st, for £ 14,99... Cold it be this? |
| Wet Willie 29.07.2005 09:52 |
'cold it be this'??? AAAAAAAahhh, freekin' type-o's!!! |
| AlexRocks 30.07.2005 14:50 |
You all don't understand when they re-release their catelog as double c.d. sets with one being a dual disc (or however they do the re-releases with 5.1) they will make all the releases (except compilations I am sure) in 5.1 plus bonus material then (the rest of the bonus material I am sure will be for the box sets). They will need to give a different reason to purchase "A Night At The Opera" or perhaps the best reason or reasons then because that will be the one that they will want to stay in print and not be so concerened about this special edition of... |
| scallyuk 31.07.2005 01:15 |
Check Brian's site today. Looks like there will be DVD footage. |
| inu-liger 31.07.2005 02:23 |
"A real Japanese Koto is about 8 feet long as I remember, and this little toy is less a foot, but it is perfectly tuneable and playable ... we ran the tape fast to record it so the sound was lowered on playback, and it sounds quite big on the record ... of course this meant I had to play it quite fast ! It's a little treasure. Simon and I had a small filming session last week to make some koto footage for the DVD ..... " I don't know about you guys, but I'm REALLY looking forward to this part on the upcoming DVD, partly (or half) because of my huge love for Japanese music. I want to see what is uncovered in this footage, and will be exciting for me, because if I'm lucky, Brian will be demonstrating how he played the toy koto. The koto is a wonderful yet very Japanese instrument. Its sound is very much unmistakeable, and I like its uniqueness! |
| mike hunt 01.08.2005 03:41 |
i think after reading brians remarks, it's pretty obvious there's some kind of dvd material, i guess that's a good start. this package might be better than people think. |
| cmsdrums 01.08.2005 08:26 |
Yup, judging from Brian's comments it looks like there will be a 'Classic Albums' style documentary on the making of the album. If he's got the toy koto out, I'm hoping that there will be quite an in depth analysis. How the makers of the 'Classic Albums' series haven't featured ANATO (or any Queen album) so far is beyond me. I'm guesssing here, but I would imagine they may possible tag on the BBC documentary 'The Story of Bohemian Rhapsody', plus maybe a longer version of Brian disecting the Bo Rhap master tapes as seen on GVH1? Hopefully it will be worth it, as it wil be about the 8th different copy of ANATO in my collection!!! |
| doremi 04.08.2005 15:57 |
Once again another artist DOES a commemorative Special Edition the RIGHT way. Elton John's 30th anniversay edition of ''Captain Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy'' with 2 CD's, B sides, singles, AND a NEVER before released 1975 concert, from a tour originally promoting the album. Hint!!!! QPL Hint!!!!! Take the HINT! link |
| Adam Baboolal 06.08.2005 12:10 |
Wow, I hadn't seen that post on Brian's site. I haven't been there in a while. Real busy these days. I like the idea that there might be some dvd footage that does justice to the idea of a re-release special edition. There is still hope folks. Peace, Adam. |
| djaef 06.08.2005 18:21 |
From Brian's soapbox: Simon and I had a small filming session last week to make some koto footage for the DVD ..... So there IS going to be a viewable dvd, as opposed to an audio one. Interesting. I wonder what's going to be on it? Judging from this coment, it'll be a doco. Maybe Hammy 75 as well? Hmmm... I agree with whoever said this release is going to be a litmus test for QP. I don't have high hopes, but I do have some left... |
| Elessar 06.08.2005 20:47 |
Brian's website diary says 7th December. Amazon has something for 31st October: link But it says just 1 disc, so if that's wrong, the date may also be wrong. |
| Penis - Vagina 06.08.2005 21:38 |
It's clear that they're doing a documentary on the making of the album, with segments showing what instruments were used and such.. kinda like the Bo Rhap documentary promised to do last year, which I recall Brian wasn't too thrilled with in the end. That doesn't mean it's the only thing that's going to be on the disc(s). The DVD-Audio is mysteriously disappearing from retailers all over though, so it's probably a safe guess that something is due to replace that.. |
| Adam Baboolal 07.08.2005 00:00 |
whirled peas<br><font size=1>Give peas a chance wrote: It's clear that they're doing a documentary on the making of the album, with segments showing what instruments were used and such.. kinda like the Bo Rhap documentary promised to do last year, which I recall Brian wasn't too thrilled with in the end.Yes, I too remember Brian's thoughts on the BBC3 docu about BoRhap. There just wasn't enough TO it. I'm glad that there will be some additional material on this re-release package, regardless if it's fairly brief. I'm glad for anything that goes into that kind of detail after the fairly disapointing BBC3 docu. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't the greatness it could've been. Brian did wonder where some of their filmed footage had gone. Edited out for some reason, he thought. Peace, Adam. |
| scallyuk 07.08.2005 02:02 |
More updates on Brian's site today.It's looking more and more like an "in the studio" analysis on the DVD . Brian seems to have recreated the Harp parts on LOML this time. Maybe Roger will bang the gong fo his bit :) N |
| Negative Creep 07.08.2005 07:19 |
Wouldn't a 31st Oct release make sense? With it being the anniversary of Bo Rap? A December release wouldn't be very clever. Amazon don't make their dates up... they will have been given the information by the distributors... obviously, these things can change though. Also, about them stating it being only one disc... retailers often aren't fed all the info about a release until nearer the time... so they leave the disc info at the default of 1 disc. |
| Shadysenator RHYE 07.08.2005 08:11 |
People stop talking about a 9 0r 11 minute rhapsody , that thing does NOT excist! |
| Negative Creep 09.08.2005 16:28 |
link Looks like another missed oppurtunity. Who wants to see mute footage synced toalbum tracks? Whats the POINT in it? |
| PieterMC 09.08.2005 16:37 |
If that is really what is on it then that is totally crap. |
| Daburcor? 09.08.2005 16:49 |
I knew I was getting excited over nothing... (That is IF the info on that link is correct) |
| Penis - Vagina 09.08.2005 17:33 |
Ha! I actually like the idea strictly for its weirdness factor. It sounds so cheesy and like a great way to ruin the experience of simply hearing the album... I love it! Of course it could be that some prankster used Play's mistake submission form to fabricate a hilarious yet believable listing. If it looked genuine enough, they might have approved and posted it. |
| Penetration_Guru 09.08.2005 17:47 |
1. Well spotted 2. Why would this not be correct? What kind of drugs would you need to be on to make up something like that? 3. Price is better than I thought it would be 4. Only QP could put "new" and "archive" in the same sentence and believe it would sell 5. What a pile of shit. A bunch of DoRo cut n paste videos, some stock footage of the seaside (???!!!!), two videos that we already have, old interviews spliced together to make a commentary track, and a surround mix of GSTQ). It's a bit rich Brian criticising the "Making of Bo Rhap" doc if he's going to allow this to "commemorate" the 30th Anniversary of such a superb album. If it's so important, why not do it right - licence the BBC doc, knock out an equivalent doc for the rest of the album, stick on Hammy O and dig out at least a couple of outtakes. |
| Penetration_Guru 09.08.2005 17:49 |
waiting for Benn's comments - still going for a 3 disc set? Amazon say one disc... |
| Boy Thomas Raker 09.08.2005 19:20 |
Posted: 7/28/2005 10:08:19 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "This is the litmus test for Queen Prodcutions as far as I'm concerned, regarding the manner in which they handle this. The entire band has always been vocal about the lack of respect Queen received as artists during their career. ANATO stands up as one of the great albums of all time, and for my money, side 2 is arguably the most creatively ambitious side of music in the history of rock and roll. QP can either acknowledge this by giving fans a package worthy of the album itself with outatkes, a doc on Bo Rhap, the making of the album, etc., or they can do what they've doing for the past 15 years, putting out product under the Queen name just to make the cash registers sing. If they do, they'll have missed a golden opportunity to shine a spotlight on THE album that defines their career as artists. I hope they get it right." Lost opportunity. |
| Saint Jiub 10.08.2005 00:05 |
QP has further defiled the word "recycle" .. |
| inu-liger 10.08.2005 00:22 |
I think someone's pulling a prank on us: "God Save The Queen: New video featuring mixture of archive 'live' footage and "Party at the Palace" footage of Brian on the roof." OK, WHAT archive 'live' footage?! Queen as far as I know never performed this (even when Freddie was around), as it was just backing tapes (until the Party At The Palace concert anyways) I think that alone gives it away as being a bullshit listing. |
| inu-liger 10.08.2005 00:42 |
I've forwarded the link to Jen, and asked her to have Brian confirm if it's the actual final details themselves, or if they will be different from what's listed (which is what we ALL hope is the case) |
| on my way up 10.08.2005 03:12 |
This is total crap!LIke some other people said:they should bring out a making-off documentary.They could use material from the bbc doc and they shouled of course also discuss the other great songs from opera.I thought this was what they were doin' because of brian with his koto.I think Hammy should not be in there because it has only one song from A night at the opera while also many other songs from that album were performed that were not played then. That should be a release on its own. |
| Benn 10.08.2005 05:23 |
"People get so excited about these things". I've just seen the play.com page and, frankly, laughed out loud. Theres no way QPL would let this happen, let alone Brian and Roger. Why go to the extent of filming new material only to have it bastardised and taken out of context. This was probably done by play.com in order to generate interest in THEIR pre-order offer as opposed to Amazon's. I'm still going for the 3-disc edition. |
| Bohardy 10.08.2005 06:42 |
I'm inclined to agree that those details aren't correct. We know that Bri's gone to the trouble of digging-out his old toy koto and Hummingbird acoustic, as well as getting a harp and attempting to play that again, yet only the toy koto is mentioned on Play. I cannot see that these instruments were only revived so as to be included in mute slow-motion images to accompany the audio of LOML and TPS. I suspect Mr Whirled Peas is behind all this... |
| Penis - Vagina 10.08.2005 08:20 |
Bohardy wrote: I suspect Mr Whirled Peas is behind all this...I only wish I'd thought of it :) I did however submit an addition in order to test my theory.. waiting to see if it'll show up :) |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.08.2005 09:25 |
I hope that it's a joke. That fact that no one's sure that the description is a joke is a sad indication that we've come to expect the minimum and worst from QP. With the momentum of the tour, Green Day and Robbie Williams doing their songs at Live 8, and even the mostly gruesome Killer Queen tribute, Queen are as noticed as they've been in 15 years in North America. Hopefully we get a product worthy of the album's greatness that will keep the momentum going. Given the cover of the live album, I'm holding my breath. |
| Negative Creep 10.08.2005 09:33 |
Laughable as it seems... these companies don't make up descriptions, nor are they supplied by the general public (!) |
| Benn 10.08.2005 11:45 |
Creep. What companies are you talking about? Play.com's only method of promoting a release is like this - no one else (other than a certain few people) has a clue about EXACTLY what is going to be included on this release. Then all of a sudden an internet retailer comes up with a list like that? Surely you're not going to believe that, are you? The documentary film has been added as a last minute thing after Brian had expressed his dissatisfaction with the BBC program - it gave absolutely NO insight. This will be altogether different. |
| Negative Creep 10.08.2005 12:05 |
Promoting? Its just a product listing on their website.. they have no need whatsoever to make up details. The information will have been obtained from their suppliers... if they haven't received any specific product information, they simply don't put any. Maybe there WILL end up being more stuff on the CD (although I wouldn't hold my breath for that), but theres no reason at all to disbelieve the information on the DVD content. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.08.2005 12:08 |
So Benn, are you saying that play.com would get a release date from the record company, then speculate on what would be on the DVD? That seems a bit odd. I'm not familiar with them as I think they're British, but I couldn't see HMV in North America getting a release date for ANATO and adding "video for I'm in Love with My Car includes scenes of auto-eroticism" just for a laugh. Surely the info listed, if they're a reputable company, has to have come from either EMI or a rep of the band, no? |
| Benn 10.08.2005 12:30 |
I'm saying that I don't believe that they have any credible source for this list - perhaps if someone is interested enough in them, they would send a contact mail to their customer support team asking what the source is / was. Obviously, if it IS true, then Queen will have a HUGE number of disgrunltled fans on their hands..... |
| Penetration_Guru 10.08.2005 14:53 |
I've been using play.com for about 5 years and their descriptions read "to be confirmed" until they have them from the supplier, at which point they put up what they're told. I've never known a release change as significantly as this would need to. |
| Penetration_Guru 10.08.2005 14:54 |
For example, while we were told that the LAW DVD would include the Dicky Hart footage, no online seller ever claimed this - because by the time they were told what was on there, that wasn't. |
| Lord Fickle 10.08.2005 17:19 |
Sorry folks, it's on CD-WOW as well (and cheaper than Play), with the same details. Another bleeding disappointent from Queen Productions Ltd. link I suppose it was too much to expect a double whammy, on the back of the new live CD / DVD. |
| Negative Creep 10.08.2005 17:57 |
I would not bother purchasing any EMI/Parlophone titles from CDWOW... unless of course, you like crap European pressings with copy protection. |
| djaef 10.08.2005 19:23 |
It clearly is a huge disappointment, and yet it shouldn't be. We as fans should be used to this by now. Comrades, I say we gather forces, storm the offices of QPL, take a few accolades hostage and demand some real product. "Tell the curly one he has 30 minutes to agree or we'll smash this toy koto." "Tell chubby he has to agree, or we'll break this Gold Radio Ga Ga disc." Power to the people. Down with corporate greed!!! :) |
| inu-liger 10.08.2005 19:49 |
Play.com HAS gotten details on Queen DVD releases wrong before. Remember when they said that GVH2 would include all the videos up to and including Innuendo and left other videos out of the list (which turned up in the release eventually). Even Brian wrote on his website back when the DVD was yet to even come out, that the tracklisting was totally wrong! I'm actually surprised no-one wrote about that until now in regards to this DVD! |
| mike hunt 11.08.2005 02:30 |
i think this info is correct, is it that bad? i mean, it has rare live footage, but no unreleased tracks. it's not a shock, and i agree "queen" are more popular in the states than they have been for ages, hopefully they keep this momentum going by releasing good products, but i'm not sure this version of "anato" is much better than the 91 release. |
| Lord Fickle 11.08.2005 04:07 |
Well, it's better than the '91 release, because it's DVD-Audio, but if you meant it's no better then the previous DVD-A (2002, I think), then I would be inclined to agree, apart from the restored GSTQ. |
| Daz85 11.08.2005 04:24 |
Also, if Brian has only been filming parts for the DVD in the last week or so, then perhaps these details are not confirmed anyway? Since none of it is set in stone I mean. |
| YourValentine 11.08.2005 04:51 |
"I would not bother purchasing any EMI/Parlophone titles from CDWOW... unless of course, you like crap European pressings with copy protection. " NC, where can I buy Queen CDs with no copy protection online? I still haven't bought the Milton Keynes CD because of copy protection. |
| Lord Fickle 11.08.2005 05:39 |
My MK CD doesn't have copy protection, and I think I bought mine from Play. It was only £4.49 there the other week, but I think it's gone back up now. |
| Negative Creep 11.08.2005 06:19 |
Yeah, play.com is a safe bet for non copy protection CDs... as are most UK retailers such as hmv.co.uk and virginmega.co.uk etc. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.08.2005 11:09 |
I haven't seen the BBC doc, so I can't comment on what Brian was unhappy with. However, if they wanted to treat ANATO with the respect that it deserves, they should have gone outside of the Queen world and commissioned the people who do Classic Albums to do an exclusive for the band, or at least followed the template. ANATO was Queen's landmark album, the time they hit their stride in a singing, songwriting, playing and producing capacity. I don't want to see 'archival seaside' or 'archival 60s space' footage. I want to see Brian, Roger and John going over each track in the studio a la Classic Albums. For fuck sakes, after all of the shit product they've put out over the past 15 years, and their crass capitalism in selling their songs to everyone who'll pay a licencing fee, you think they'd take this opportunity to give their fans something decent in return. Once again, the band have always bitched about the lack of critical respect they've received throught their career. They've got an important anniversary and decide that people want to see contrived videos more than the making of the record. Aarrgghh! I hope that the info is wrong as this is the release I've waited years for. |
| Wet Willie 11.08.2005 11:26 |
I just hope this listing is not the release. In which case, I thank Queen and the record company for offering me the chance to spend my money elsewhere ;-) This album is so good, it's a shame to celebrate this anniversary in such a cheap-promotional way. |
| Lord Fickle 11.08.2005 11:31 |
I very much doubt that the information is incorrect, despite all our wishful thinking, as it's typical of what we have come to expect from QPL. They know the fans will buy any old shit they put out, and capitalise on our loyalty to the band. I urge everyone to boycott this product. If no one buys it, maybe QPL will think twice before treating the fans as mugs, once again. |
| mike hunt 11.08.2005 12:01 |
i agree, usually i'm one of those fans that buys anything queen related, but i'm not gonna shell out my money on an album i already have on album and CD, unless there's some real rarities, and a concert from that era. let's face it, they released 3 DVD's from the eightie's, but not one single show from the seventies. that's bullshit. if they don't think a show from 75 will sell because it doesn't have songs like "rock you/champions" it would be nice to include a show in this DVD. |
| Lord Fickle 11.08.2005 12:18 |
What really annoys me is that there is a whole wealth of material available, which the fans would buy, yet QPL refuse to put any of it out, but continue to recycle existing material ad infinitum. OK, so the GVH DVDs, and the DVD-As were nice, as was the Milton Keynes CD / DVD, but there must be so much more available, which could reap rewards for QPL, and also keep the fans happy. ANATO was a great album, but how many more f**king times are we to be expected to buy it?? |
| Negative Creep 11.08.2005 12:56 |
I thought the GVH DVDs were relatively poor... as videos. The audio would good, as were the extras on the first release (although they could have put more on). The picture quality has been fairly dodgy on all of the DVDs, due to very poor mastering (there was no need to filter the videos so heavily) & some bad decisions were made... such as cropping the promo videos for widescreen when not a single video was shot in widescreen (I've yet to see anyone else do this), leaving off the Innuendo tracks to make up a GVH3 release which will be really scraping the barrel... especially as theres no chance of them putting all of Rogers & Brians promo videos on there etc etc. I don't see how Brian or Roger give a fuck about critical respect... unless I've imagine all the "Queen+" projects and the ahem, musical. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.08.2005 15:17 |
"ANATO was a great album, but how many more f**king times are we to be expected to buy it??" 35th Anniversary. 2010. Includes new "3-D Seaside" footage. 40th Annivesary. 2015. Includes new "colourized 60s space" footage. 50th Anniversary. 2025. Includes new "Jim Beach laughing from the grave" footage. I'd say 3 guaranteed with more to come with each format change. |
| Adam Baboolal 11.08.2005 20:26 |
I also remember when Play.com got the GVH2 dvd release wrong. I'm not going to believe any store until Brian confirms the contents of the 30th anniversary release. I find it a bit odd that the things that HAVE been mentioned (over the last week and a bit) on Brian's site, have now been integrated into a list of the tracks for this dvd. Are we to believe that this is all Brian has actually recorded? Or that this is what we've come to expect FROM BRIAN? Mr perfection himself..? If you think about it, it doesn't make sense. Why go to all the trouble to get someone to film you recording little video snippets for inserts on the 5.1 dvd of the album?? What about the logical step of getting interviews??? They're not on this.. list. And it smacks of something that Brian WOULDN'T aspire to doing. I mean, come on... Brian likes to throw himself into these kind of projects and has always said that the 30th anniversary release would be special. Which is probably why he's pulled out the original instruments. Do you honestly believe this non-confirmed list that suddenly appeared on a few store sites, is 100% real? Amazingly, a lot of you do and that's weird in itself! What do they (online retailers) have to gain..? Pre-sales. We all know this is a legitimate idea. And they can turn round and say, hey, we didn't mention anything that ISN'T on the cd/dvd package, right? Maybe all these things are on the set. But is how they've set it up to look like, really the absolute product we should expect. I say, nay. The archive footage could be a section in itself. Brian's recently recorded footage, could also be in a section by itself. Whether that be a documentary or simply in a "re-creating the sounds" kind of featurette. It's all open to interpretation and I think that's what they've done. They have sparse details and did something with it. Don't hold your breath. Just wait and see what will happen. No-one really knows. But hey, didn't John-S-Stuart state that there would be a considerable package to look forward to? Peace, Adam. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.08.2005 22:27 |
I hope that you're right Adam. Personally, this is the release that I've waited forever to have, and I really hope the info listed is speculative. If you've ever seen an episode of Classic Albums, it's amazing to see how things came about during recording from bands you don't even care about. If ever a Queen album was begging to go under the microscope it's ANATO. I just fear that the bits with Brian are last minute things that'll be him reflecting on his day with the harp and his Hummingbird. Selfishly, I want to know things like the difficulty in recording the vocal tracks in The Prophet song, or how he recorded a note at a time for the guitar jazz band in Good Company. I think this should be the definitive Queen record of note for their most ambitious album. Anything less would be a shame. |
| Adam Baboolal 12.08.2005 00:33 |
I certainly think it would be a shame that ANATO doesn't get the Classic Albums treatment, too. Our teacher has mentioned these dvds in class a few times. I've always wondered why there wasn't one for ANATO. Go figure. But yeah, I just don't see what the point would be (according those stores) of featuring little shots of Brian with the original instruments on screen while the track plays out. If you think about it, it sounds really really cheesy! This is certainly not the Brian we know of when it comes to his ways of handling big projects. How could it possibly be true of their most famous work. I really don't see them doing a good job on their latest tour dvd, but not on their precious ANATO album. This leaked list just doesn't feel right when you put these things in perspective. And let's not forget... Roger and Brian spent a fair amount of time on that BBC3 docu last year. So, again, in that light - how could they possibly be doing what that leaked list says? I seriously think it's a wind-up. The more I think about it, the more clearly I see this. Peace, Adam. |
| Freddie May 12.08.2005 06:17 |
Do you think Queen Prod got the rights to use parts of this BBC doc ? Just wondering... |
| Bohardy 12.08.2005 08:36 |
I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that, somehow, it's absolute bollocks. Just looking through it again, the language used doesn't seem fitting to that used when normally describing product features on such a website. The line "New video featuring mixture of archive 'live' footage and exclusive new footage of Brian playing the toy Koto!", specifically the exclamation mark and the "the toy koto" just don't seem right. 'What toy Koto?' cries the casual reader. The special features info presumes of the reader a certain level of knowledge about the product in question (such as "This is the same audio content that was on the DVD-A, released in 2002, but has been re-mastered with a proper 5.1 mix of "God Save The Queen""), which is not the norm when listing a DVD's details. The language and phrasing used seems more akin to that of a fan, rather than an impartial online retailer. I still reckon Jeff's involved somehow... EDIT: I've just noticed that the line "the toy Koto" can be read two ways. I was reading it to mean "THE toy koto (that was used on the original recording)", whereas it could just easily mean "a toy koto". If the latter meaning was intended, it makes one of my above points a bit moot. |
| Fenderek 12.08.2005 08:45 |
Just the "archive seaside footage" looks too surreal to be true.. I mean either DoRo did that (and than the surreal may be true) or it's bullshit. I hope, pray that it's bullshit... |
| Penis - Vagina 12.08.2005 09:31 |
Well, if it's just some footage of Brian with the instruments that would be silly.. but I suspect the 'commentary' track will at that time give way to dialogue from Brian. That would make more sense. However it will still look silly when played with the original audio. LOL |
| John S Stuart 12.08.2005 20:51 |
Adam: Unfortunately only Queen Productions could use words like "archived" and "unreleased" and still end up with this piece of sh*t! |
| AlexRocks 12.08.2005 21:34 |
Are you all going to acknowledge my post? Many, many, many times I have written about this. My understanding is that there will be first a re-release of the fifteen studio l.p.s as double disc sets that will also include everyting in 5.1 as one disc will probably be a dual disc. This is simply what the music industry is in the proccess of moving towards transfering to. Then over the years they will release one eight c.d. box set at a time. Sounds like three of those total concerning studio material. All of this will not be at once because they will need to time for these things to sell as flooding the market will just put everything out of print. The thing is is that those are the releases they are going to want to stay in print and not one-of specials like this upcomming one. Also they should not put the short promotional films (the music videos) on the re-releases. Those should be saved for the "Greatest Video Hits" compilations. They could include short promotional films (the music videos) that are some alternative versions or films that were not hits or simply rare or all the unreleased stuff that there is. |
| Tero 13.08.2005 05:38 |
AlexRocks wrote: My understanding is that there will be first a re-release of the fifteen studio l.p.s as double disc sets that will also include everyting in 5.1 as one disc will probably be a dual disc. This is simply what the music industry is in the proccess of moving towards transfering to.While it is undoubtably true that the music industry is finding new ways to re-package the old material, I personally don't believe your understanding before I actually see new 2-disc sets in the store. The Queen cds have been so far released in all the trendy formats: Bonus tracks for the USA, Digital Remaster for Europe, Mini-lp covers for Japan, and few DVD-As around the world. CD+DVDA might very well be the next thing, as Warner has released their REM back catalogue in that format... But Queen productions isn't really known for its speed, and if Brian wants to personally oversee every bit of the surround mixing as usual, it will take some twenty years to get all the albums released! |
| Negative Creep 13.08.2005 10:04 |
Your understanding? Based on what? Something you've read on this forum? |
| Freddie May 13.08.2005 11:30 |
Don't forget that the press release for the Q+PR US tour says this : At the end of the year, Queen will commemorate the 30th anniversary of their two-time hit, "Bohemian Rhapsody" (first released in the U.S. December 7, 1975), with a special anniversary DVD and CD of the band's classic album A Night At The Opera. So there has to be a CD and a DVD but we don't know yet if it will be in the same package... |
| AlexRocks 13.08.2005 15:17 |
Have you all ever heard of this guy called Brian May? He was the one who said that he was interested in the idea of making the c.d.s into two c.d. sets of songs plus "interactive" (I imagine he meant for the most part d.v.d) material. I don't remember my other source but I understood it to be credible and probably from Greg Brooks who said that there would be enough material to also release three box sets with eight c.d.s in each. I don't really understand why you all think a group who are far less talented than Queen and who have sold far fewer records should have better treatment to their catelog than Queen. So far Sony are the main company doing this but others are already starting to get involved with blu-ray discs (the players for them will be backwards compatable meaning that they will still play your old c.d.s and d.v.d.s) which will be d.v.d.s that hold up to ten hours of film on a single side. (See link They are already hitting the Japan market and will hit the U.S. later this year. A number of film companys are getting ready for this new format. Seems how you have just said how the catelog has been released a number of times over the past fifteen years or so doesn't seem like it will take twenty years or too long of a time to do it in the 5.1 format with the stereo option still available. What they could do is have the c.d. with its picture and label information on one side, the original l.p. remastered on the other side plus extra tracks and then the second disc could hold the other previously unreleased songs in c.d. stereo form and that second disc could hold the d.v.d. format of everything on the other side of it. The only thing is that they had better be in plastic cases and not the crappy paper ones like R.E.M. did. That is done specifically because the artists and companys know that they will fall apart and ware out after a few uses... |
| Tero 13.08.2005 15:52 |
AlexRocks wrote: Have you all ever heard of this guy called Brian May? He was the one who said that he was interested in the idea of making the c.d.s into two c.d. sets of songs plus "interactive". I don't remember my other source but I understood it to be credible and probably from Greg Brooks who said that there would be enough material to also release three box sets with eight c.d.s in each.I have heard of Brian May, and it doesn't matter what he's interested in if none of it ever materialises. Greg Brooks on the other hand is one of the most useless sources of information. Just take a look at his answers on QOL! I don't really understand why you all think a group who are far less talented than Queen and who have sold far fewer records should have better treatment to their catelog than Queen. Seems how you have just said how the catelog has been released a number of times over the past fifteen years or so doesn't seem like it will take twenty years or too long of a time to do it in the 5.1 format with the stereo option still available.I wouldn't mind the Queen releases having the best possible treatment. Sadly the reality has been anything else than that. I would love to have all the albums in surround sound, but the truth is that it takes ages to release them because Brian wants to remix the bloody things by himself. If you don't believe how long it's going to take, just have a look at the release dates. The Game was released two years ago, while ANATO was over a year before that. The digital remasters from 1993/1994 weren't remixed at that time, and required hardly any input from Brian. That's why they were all released within a matter of months. I'll apologise publicly if all the studio albums by Queen are released in surround sound before 2015, but I won't be holding my breath. :P |
| Negative Creep 13.08.2005 16:55 |
Expanded albums plus boxsets? Not in this world. "The digital remasters from 1993/1994 weren't remixed at that time" That is because they were remasters (although, more direct transfers), not remixes. Do we really need all the albums in surround sound? This format for albums hasn't REALLY taken off... and theres only a couple more Queen albums that would lend themselves to the format. I'm sure new "high definition" stereo mixes would go down a treat... get the low end back in the mix that was mixed & mastered out of the original versions.... just about every Queen album would be improved by being remixed. |
| Tero 13.08.2005 17:18 |
Negative Creep wrote: That is because they were remasters (although, more direct transfers), not remixes.This was indeed my point... Brian didn't have to be his perfectionist himself with any of the previous re-releases. But he has taken it as his personal task to remix all the surround sound tracks. THAT is why it takes so bloody long to get any Queen releases. Do we really need all the albums in surround sound?I know weren't really asking me, but I will tell you anyway... I don't need the surround albums. I haven't bought the previous ones, and I have no intention of buying the upcoming releases either unless they have some worthwhile extras. 60's space footage or seaside collages do not count as such. :P |
| bitesthedust 14.08.2005 10:07 |
Tero wrote:I agree entirely.Negative Creep wrote: That is because they were remasters (although, more direct transfers), not remixes.This was indeed my point... Brian didn't have to be his perfectionist himself with any of the previous re-releases. But he has taken it as his personal task to remix all the surround sound tracks. THAT is why it takes so bloody long to get any Queen releases.Do we really need all the albums in surround sound?I know weren't really asking me, but I will tell you anyway... I don't need the surround albums. I haven't bought the previous ones, and I have no intention of buying the upcoming releases either unless they have some worthwhile extras. 60's space footage or seaside collages do not count as such. :P |
| proton 15.08.2005 16:56 |
link release end of october, and cheap :-) |
| dimcyril 16.08.2005 06:49 |
i too am thoroughly browned off by the thought of a dvd of archive footage a la queen rocks videos. this is complete crap. it is also an insult if they expect us to buy this crap again. archive seaside footage is a joke i'm afraid. instead of putting archive live footage to the studio tracks why not just put the flippin live tracks on the bonus dvd. that would be worth buying |
| dimcyril 16.08.2005 08:29 |
not that there is live footage of seaside rendezvous of course but for the other tracks [except good company] plus a documentary and unreleased tracks. there we are jim beach, sorted, now how about giving the fans what they want? |
| Forever88 16.08.2005 20:39 |
It'll be GVHIII!!!!! (I hope!) |
| Lord Fickle 17.08.2005 16:19 |
Hang on!! No one mentioned a "WWRY - The Musical" sticker!! Surely this alone makes the purchase worthwhile! Hell, I would pay double for it, knowing this! |