| deleted user 23.07.2005 20:15 |
are there any releases of sheer heart attack, news of the world, and the miracle without the remastering errors? |
| Suigi 23.07.2005 20:21 |
wait...what?! What remastering errors do you speak of? |
| goinback 23.07.2005 23:19 |
The Lap Of The Gods missing measure was fixed, the intro to It's Late is fixed (though there's still a gap between WWRY and WATC)...not sure what was wrong with the Miracle. The other two were fixed over 10 years ago I think :) |
| deleted user 23.07.2005 23:21 |
sheer heart attack: one of the screams on in the lap of the gods was edited out news of the world: the first 4 or 5 seconds of its late are edited out the miracle: on i want it all, there is a chorus line that is edited out and there are extra vocals this was all different on the LP, and i was wondering if there was a CD release without these errors (im pretty sure there is one for news of the world) |
| NOTWMEDDLE 24.07.2005 01:33 |
I prefer the UK Abbey Road remasters of SHA and NOTW! I also prefer the original Capitol CD issue of The Miracle! |
| Serry... 24.07.2005 01:39 |
Original CD release of The Miracle contains 'right' version of IWIA. The rest of HR's errors were fixed. |
| LifeKiller 24.07.2005 04:11 |
Fat Bottomed Girls, there's a kind of "click" after a few seconds, damn! |
| The King Of Rhye 24.07.2005 05:12 |
LifeKiller wrote: Fat Bottomed Girls, there's a kind of "click" after a few seconds, damn!Wasnt that just on Queen Rocks, though? |
| goinback 24.07.2005 06:05 |
Hollywood says the CD version of I Want It All on The Miracle is correct, which means the original vinyl was apparently wrong. ;) It's Late was fixed right away. No one ever believes me that there shouldn't be that long of a gap between WWRY/WATC though so it never gets fixed ;) No vinyl I ever had had that long of a gap. And yes FBG was only messed up on Queen Rocks (now fixed). |
| Serry... 24.07.2005 06:16 |
goinback wrote: Hollywood says the CD version of I Want It All on The Miracle is correct, which means the original vinyl was apparently wrong. ;)"When Hollywood Records was remastering the album, Queen Productions provided the incorrect album master tape to Hollywood Records. The I Want It All mix that appears on the Hollywood release was added to the album master on March 15, 1989" Adam Unger, link |
| Daniel vZ 24.07.2005 13:38 |
I've got a version of Hot Space, were I got a little gap in the song 'Back Chat', it's about 1 sec. maybe 1,5 sec. Pretty annoying :/ |
| Andy Gregory 24.07.2005 14:15 |
Actually I've got the CD of the Jazz album and the click on Fat Bottomed Girls is on there! |
| Adam Baboolal 24.07.2005 14:32 |
goinback wrote: And yes FBG was only messed up on Queen Rocks (now fixed).Eh?? I remember getting that same error on the Jazz album, just the same as Andy says. It IS NOT an isolated incident with Queen Rocks. Peace, Adam. |
| goinback 24.07.2005 15:03 |
Wow I didn't know that (about Jazz)...I bought a Jazz CD a year ago though and it's been fixed now. Never heard about the Hot Space error before. The trainspotter's guide (can't remember the addy) tells about the IWIA problem in more detail if interested. |
| Wilki Amieva 24.07.2005 16:21 |
Serry... wrote: "When Hollywood Records was remastering the album, Queen Productions provided the incorrect album master tape to Hollywood Records. The I Want It All mix that appears on the Hollywood release was added to the album master on March 15, 1989" Adam Unger, linkThat it is incorrect. The I Want It All version added to the master on March 15th 1989 is the regular album version. The pre-March 15th version is the Hollywood Records master. I know as I have cassette copies of both masters from Abbey Road. |
| Wilki Amieva 24.07.2005 20:10 |
Also the In The Lap Of The Gods version released on the first Hollywood Records issue of SHEER HEART ATTACK (missing one of the introduction Aaah! choirs) comes from an incorrect master. It is not a 'proper' mastering error, but an archive/labeling one. This was corrected in later editions of this release and fortunately it was never reproduced in any of the subsequent remasterings. |
| Wilki Amieva 24.07.2005 20:30 |
'Proper' mastering errors can be found in the following tracks: - It's Late: Has its first four seconds missing on the first issue of the HR release of NEWS OF THE WORLD, 1991. Corrected on further issues of this release and fortunately never repeated on any of the subsequent remasterings. - Fat Bottomed Girls (single version): Has an audible click during the introduction. This error was commited during the DIGITAL MASTER SERIES remastering. Found on the GREATEST HITS release from that series. Also on the Let Me Live "The Hits", on QUEEN ROCKS and on the GH Interactive CD-ROM. Never corrected, but also fortunately never repeated on any of the subsequent remasterings. - You Don't Fool Me (sexy club mix - remix by Jam & Spoon): Has its first seconds missing on the You Don't Fool Me - The Remixes UK single. This error is exclusive to this release, so it is likely that this is a transfer error. |
| boy of destiny 25.07.2005 00:34 |
This topic really pisses me off! I have almost every Hollywood Records remaster (-HS, AKOM, TM) and because they're all flawed, I'll have to spend even more to replace them someday. The CDs shouldn't have been released with errors in the first place! Can we return them to HR? Probably not. HR knows they released a flawed product, so they should stand behind them and replace them with the corrected versions free of charge. |
| Serry... 25.07.2005 06:21 |
Wilki wrote:Write this to Adam, this quote is from his site, not mine.Serry... wrote: "When Hollywood Records was remastering the album, Queen Productions provided the incorrect album master tape to Hollywood Records. The I Want It All mix that appears on the Hollywood release was added to the album master on March 15, 1989" Adam Unger, linkThat it is incorrect. The I Want It All version added to the master on March 15th 1989 is the regular album version. The pre-March 15th version is the Hollywood Records master. I know as I have cassette copies of both masters from Abbey Road. By the way, are you sure that Fred sung on Roger's "I Cry For You"? I can't download the file from your site though I have this 7" version of the song I didn't notice Fred's voice there. Actually I just didn't heard it too close! :) |
| goinback 25.07.2005 07:34 |
Hmmm I thought the click was on the album version of FBG...wasn't that the one used on Rocks? I'll have to check I guess...I know the album version is the one on Jazz...why would the single edit have the same problem as the album version? |
| Wilki Amieva 25.07.2005 09:53 |
Yes, GoinBack you are right indeed! It is the album version and NOT the single one. I messed up, sorry. Please correct: JAZZ instead of GREATEST HITS (including the Interactive CD-ROM). Thanks. By the way, it is not odd that they used the album version for the Let Me Live single? Serry, I know you quoted Adam Unger, but he apparently misunderstood a statement by Justin Shirley-Smith. Also please note that my site is not mantained anymore. |
| Serry... 25.07.2005 10:17 |
Okay! Sorry |
| inu-liger 26.07.2005 02:17 |
The 'click' that appears on "Fat Bottomed Girls" is only unique to the UK/European digital remasters from 1993/1994 (which year, exactly?). The "Queen Rocks" compilation album merely copied the digital tapes/hard disk files(?) from the tracks that were copied as-is, and not remixed (like IWIA, ICLWY, IILWMC, etc.), so the click was still there. Later remasters do not have it. Even the US Hollywood Records "Greatest Hits" re-release remaster from 1 or 2 years back doesn't have that click. |
| Penis - Vagina 26.07.2005 04:50 |
link Scroll down a little bit to 'Errors on CDs' for the definitive answers to these questions, courtesy of a letter written by Deacon Fan (Jeffrey) last year. |
| Bobby_brown 26.07.2005 10:44 |
If you find errors then e-mail Justin Shirley Smith! Take care |
| inu-liger 26.07.2005 14:44 |
I would be glad to pass on any error reports directly to Justin myself, if you guys should find anymore. I have his e-mail address, so I can contact him anytime. (I might actually e-mail him myself about the ANATO DVD-A versions from 2001 and 2002 if I have the time...) |
| Penis - Vagina 26.07.2005 17:40 |
He's a sweet guy. Deacon Fan emailed him just in time to get a couple things corrected before they remastered the karaoke discs last year. Justin immediately sent the info to whoever was working on it. I believe he's aware of just about everything up to that point, and they're probably more aware to make sure things are right now. If you do talk to him Ricky, I have a suggestion: I had this idea that for one track on a future 5.1 remix, perhaps they'd consider doing a version with all channels devoted to one element throughout the song. Sort of a 'bounced' multitrack for fans to play with. Low drums and bass in the LFE, high drums in one channel constantly, vocal in the center, guitars in one, background vox in one rear and extra stuff in the other rear, with no panning. I know they'd never approve this for a primary mix but maybe it could be a bonus track called (alternate mix) or something. Imagine the fun remixers could have with such a mix :) |
| Lester Burnham 26.07.2005 18:02 |
Woah, Deacon Fan makes a very subtle re-entrance. Nice to see you back! |
| Penis - Vagina 26.07.2005 18:17 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Woah, Deacon Fan makes a very subtle re-entrance. Nice to see you back!Lester, you devil. I can't think of anyone I'd rather discuss 're-entrance' with. |
| inu-liger 26.07.2005 23:06 |
You bastards killed my cat wrote: He's a sweet guy. Deacon Fan emailed him just in time to get a couple things corrected before they remastered the karaoke discs last year. Justin immediately sent the info to whoever was working on it. I believe he's aware of just about everything up to that point, and they're probably more aware to make sure things are right now. If you do talk to him Ricky, I have a suggestion: I had this idea that for one track on a future 5.1 remix, perhaps they'd consider doing a version with all channels devoted to one element throughout the song. Sort of a 'bounced' multitrack for fans to play with. Low drums and bass in the LFE, high drums in one channel constantly, vocal in the center, guitars in one, background vox in one rear and extra stuff in the other rear, with no panning. I know they'd never approve this for a primary mix but maybe it could be a bonus track called (alternate mix) or something. Imagine the fun remixers could have with such a mix :)He won't go for that. I'll tell you that much |
| Penis - Vagina 26.07.2005 23:55 |
Yeah it was just a crazy dream. In fact I'm sure part of why the mixes are the way they are is their unwillingness to let people have too much access to original tracks. Incidently, during my absence I picked up the Peter Gabriel 'Play' DVD and was amazed how good a video collection with 5.1 mixes can truly be, when done properly.. ie; using all channels. That disc rocks! |
| goinback 27.07.2005 02:54 |
Inu: See if he would compare the gap between WWRY/WATC on the CDs with the vinyl (and '70s/'80s tape) versions...I know it was never that long of a gap until the CDs came out ;) There was hardly any gap at all on the vinyl and tapes. Also the very end of LIve Killers lasts a few seconds longer than it did on vinyl/tape, but that's a nice bonus so I hope they don't fix that one :) |
| Daniel vZ 27.07.2005 16:14 |
Maybe this question has been asked before, but what is that sound that you hear on 'The Miracle' with the bass part (3:49)? |
| Penis - Vagina 27.07.2005 17:27 |
Daniel vZ wrote: Maybe this question has been asked before, but what is that sound that you hear on 'The Miracle' with the bass part (3:49)?It's either a finger snapping, a metronome or one hand clapping. Ha! Seriously, it's supposed to be there. You can generally rule out a glitch if it happens continuously and right on a beat. |