QueenZone discussion #549979
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| BEF 27.05.2005 09:27 |
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| John S Stuart 27.05.2005 09:31 |
So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen? I DON'T think so! |
| BEF 27.05.2005 09:33 |
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| Fenderek 27.05.2005 09:35 |
Bastards! I mean- Queen MAY go on tour to US in the fall, no other bands should do it in the same time... C'mon- they didn't even confirm it yet! |
| BEF 27.05.2005 09:39 |
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| Fenderek 27.05.2005 09:48 |
BluEydFlu_Z wrote: Hence the word RUMORS!So how can you say taht someone is hijacking something? Geez, I'm sure on the stones' noticeboars pp were already discussing their tour for halfa year as well.... You said yourself that you're not their fan- so you didn't hear about it. C'mon- you can't organise a massive tour in two weeks... All I'm saying is... It will be different audience that will go and see Queen, and different one that will go for Stones. If the same- ppl will probably see both shows. No-one is stealing anything from anyone... |
| BEF 27.05.2005 09:56 |
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| Fenderek 27.05.2005 10:29 |
You know what they say about answers? That it depends on the question... You'll hear about other big bands that are going on tour in US in fall. Because they always do... Someone big is always gonna tour US in the fall every year... Fall 2005 isn't exclusive to Queen... |
| Scott_Mercury 27.05.2005 10:52 |
The Rolling Stones have done/completed/ and announced many USA tours in the last 40 years on their own without riding the coat tails of anyone. Of course I am 100 times bigger Queen fan, than Stones fan.... but I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born. |
| Fenderek 27.05.2005 10:56 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: but I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born.Ditto- my thoughts exactly |
| John S Stuart 27.05.2005 11:26 |
BluEydFlu_Z: "John S. Stuart. Why are you always such a smartass?" I think it may be because I have a brain, and, more often than not I usually try to use it. How else does one become a smart ass? |
| Wet Willie 27.05.2005 11:29 |
John S Stuart wrote: BluEydFlu_Z: "John S. Stuart. Why are you always such a smartass?" I think it may be because I have a brain, and, more often than not I usually try to use it. How else does one become a smart ass?BlyEydFlu-Z... Why the anger? Don't you think we knew of the Stones gig over a year ago? It's takes a lot of planning and time to organise the kind of tours the Stones do. Believe me, they're not 'taking Queen's thunder". |
| BEF 27.05.2005 11:39 |
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| John S Stuart 27.05.2005 11:58 |
BluEydFlu_Z: "I think it's unfortunate that a person can't make up with brains what they lack in personality..." So very true, but I am not a personality, I am two or three lines in a Queen forum noticeboard. As to my initial response: "So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen? I DON'T think so!" - this was not meant to be either rude or curt, but a succinct summation of my thoughts on the subject. I could have used similar arguments as: Fenderek: "So how can you say taht someone is hijacking something? Geez, I'm sure on the stones' noticeboars pp were already discussing their tour for halfa year as well.... You said yourself that you're not their fan- so you didn't hear about it. C'mon- you can't organise a massive tour in two weeks..." Scott_Mercury: "The Rolling Stones have done/completed/ and announced many USA tours in the last 40 years on their own without riding the coat tails of anyone... I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born." and Chrirons: "Why the anger? Don't you think we knew of the Stones gig over a year ago? It's takes a lot of planning and time to organise the kind of tours the Stones do. Believe me, they're not 'taking Queen's thunder"." However, I could not be arsed at the time (still can't to be honest) hence the very short (but precise) reply. It was not meant to cause offence. Sometimes one can disagree in one syllable (NO!) - without having to revert to three page justifications. If my diasagreement meets with your disapproval - I apologise - but being succinct does not equate with being either rude nor ignorant. Now, even after this mini essay, I still disagree, and stand by my original statement: "So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen? I DON'T think so!" Personally, I would think that any mature reader would accept that this is a pulic discussion board, and that others have the right to disagree with me. |
| Sharon G. 27.05.2005 12:13 |
Am a Stones fans, but a much bigger Queen fan. The Stones have every right to tour this summer as does any other group. Saw the Stones last time out. Very good show. If you get a chance to go, I would recommend it. One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not. |
| doremi 27.05.2005 13:04 |
Just so you all know, in the USA, Autumn/Fall is a prime time for tours. U2 will be coing here, the Stones of course, Duran Duran is doing some shows now then more in the fall. That's like all summer blockbuster movies are released in the states at 2 key times, May-June when the kiddies get out of school, and October thru Christmas not only for revenues..but to be eligible for that year's Academy Awards. It's just about Fall being prime time for muisc tours that's all. Has nothing to do with The Rolling Stones trying to ambush Queen. Then again if Queen, picked a time when other bands are NOT doing big tours, that doesn't mean Queen would do any better necesasrily, because it might be a bad time for tours (ie: winter months with BAD weather is the USA, plus the Christmas/Thanksgiving season when people here visit family. Queen like any other act, are vying for what they also call in our USA TV networks here, the "Sweeps Season", meaning the prime optimum time for music touring acts. Yes they will be competing with a tone of other bands...but...fans of Queen will most likely still pay to see Queen anyhow..because they are fans. If any of those fans also like the other bands that are touring, they will likely arrange their schedules and it will all work out. Here in the USA, for the last year, the ONLY bands and acts whose tours have failed, have been those who have been WAY overcharging for ticket sales. According to Pollstar, Billboard, Variety (who all monitor tours) and Clear Channel, who is the Main concert promoter and booking agent for music tours in the USA, this year was the worst ever financially for bands touring and many had to cancel their tours (even our infamous Lollapalooza Festival, Doves promoting their brand new record, etc.)...all becuase they overcharged for ticket prices in what is a very bad economy currently in the USA. So if Queen keep their ticket prices affordable, they could actually beat out some of the other bands that are touring. |
| Lester Burnham 27.05.2005 13:33 |
Sharon G. wrote: One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not.Get the fuck over it, you annoying little shit. And well said Arlene, though if I may add one thing - The Stones have always toured the USA in the fall since about 1981. They've started every single tour in this country toward the end of August / beginning of September; it seems to be a fairly common practice for them. |
| wstüssyb 27.05.2005 14:36 |
so much better to go to a concert in the fall compared to summer...summer only has to offer less then fully dressed chicks on hot sweaty days... |
| Professor Snowy 27.05.2005 14:40 |
BluEydFlu_z wrote; "My god, I don't know who's worse on these boards. The over 20's or under 20's. " Are we talking I.Q.'s here?!! |
| doremi 27.05.2005 14:50 |
Read this article. About Trey Anastacio cancelling his USA Festival Zooma Summer tour. link This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. If a band overcharges for tickets or does not properly plan to play at decent, accessible venues here in rhe USA...then they bust. I might add that Trey Anastasio has a HUMONGOUS faithful Deadhead type cult following from his days with Phish, here in the USA... ...and this tour still did not sell enough tickets in the cities it was planned for...so he cancelled the tour altogether. But see what USA jam band String Cheese Incident says in this article about THEIR USA summer tour. "We're projecting that almost everywhere will sell out. But we're playing 10,000 seaters, not 20,000 seaters. We feel like our cost is fair to the promoters, and the ticket prices are fair to the kids." If Queen use good strategy, and appeal to the financial state of people here in the USA's current economic climate...and keep their ticket prices affordable, and plan to play at key geographic cities and quality venues that their fans will WANT to pay to go to and like, then they should do fine. |
| Lord Blackadder 27.05.2005 17:33 |
The Stones tour every couple of years. This isnt something new. Plus, The Stones are HUGE in America and indeed worldwide. Queen aint. The Stones have nothing to be jealous of. Plus Mick and Freddie were good friends. |
| brENsKi 27.05.2005 17:45 |
BluEydFlu_Z wrote: Let me start by saying, a. I'm not a Stones fan. b. Never been a Stones fan. c. No nothing of the relationship, if any, between Queen and the Stones. I just think it's kind of odd that there have been rumors of a U.S. Queen tour in the fall for months, and all of a sudden BAM! the Stones go on tour in the U.S. in the fall.so ALL bands touring the USA in autumn are railroading queen? - you';re a fuckwit if you genuinely think this...get a life...anyone knows thta autumn is traditionally the TOUR season for bands releasing Christmas albums...grow up!! |
| danielbuzz69 27.05.2005 17:51 |
John S Stuart wrote: Personally, I would think that any mature reader would accept that this is a pulic discussion board, and that others have the right to disagree with me.Agreed. But there is a culture on Queenzone where a fan asks what they believe to be a legitimate question or share a thought, only to get some sarcastic comment in return. There are ways to write sometimes without giving the impression that one is a smartarse. I am not saying that you are a smartarse Mr. Stuart sir. I am just adding a thought |
| brENsKi 27.05.2005 17:56 |
danielbuzz69 wrote:ands there's also a way of asking dickstupid questions without appearing dickstupid.....clearly the person starting this thread hasn't grasped that concept....Agreed. But there is a culture on Queenzone where a fan asks what they believe to be a legitimate question or share a thought, only to get some sarcastic comment in return. There are ways to write sometimes without giving the impression that one is a smartarse. I am not saying that you are a smartarse Mr. Stuart sir. I am just adding a thought |
| John S Stuart 27.05.2005 18:29 |
danielbuzz69: "...there is a culture on Queenzone where a fan asks what they believe to be a legitimate question or share a thought, only to get some sarcastic comment in return..." That too is correct, but my answer was neither rude or sarcastic - it was economical. Sharp and to the point. Why is it that such a positive (emphatic) answer is viewed in a negative light? |
| danielbuzz69 27.05.2005 20:24 |
John S Stuart wrote: Why is it that such a positive (emphatic) answer is viewed in a negative light?It's a communication problem. The difficulty with Forums (and Text messaging for that matter) is we can't convey the tone of a statement we make. To try and get across the tone of what we all want to say via written text, we end up writing in CAPITAL letters or ending a statement with exclamation marks!!!!!. Most people just read that as a shouting remark and then become very defensive. |
| deleted user 28.05.2005 08:24 |
Sharon G. wrote: Am a Stones fans, but a much bigger Queen fan. The Stones have every right to tour this summer as does any other group. Saw the Stones last time out. Very good show. If you get a chance to go, I would recommend it. One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not.So true, but also like Queen they lost Brian Jones, an important member to them. Similarly, their bass player quit much like you could argue John Deacon did and yet despite all this they went on to become a far better band who are still touring these days. |
| The King Of Rhye 28.05.2005 08:50 |
Sharon G. wrote: Am a Stones fans, but a much bigger Queen fan. The Stones have every right to tour this summer as does any other group. Saw the Stones last time out. Very good show. If you get a chance to go, I would recommend it. One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not.I will say this a million times... "Queen" is not touring. "Queen + Paul Rodgers" IS touring, with their lead singer....Paul Rodgers! |
| The King Of Rhye 28.05.2005 08:52 |
I will agree with you on one thing, though, Sharon....the Stones do put on a good show....I saw em back in December 94... |