| JDL2nd 26.05.2005 13:17 |
This is perhaps my most favourite concert from queen. Great setlist, great drumkit and those "wonderfull haha" costumes Freddie wore. I wonder : is somebody here , a member, that was there at earls court back then ? It most have been a great experience. |
| chewing gum bum 27.05.2005 09:50 |
I wasn't there but my cousin was. He was their lighting engineer for a few years and said that after those two gigs, the crown lighting rig that was used was so big that they had to cut it up just to get it out of the venue. He designed another one that was smaller and was used for the NOTW tours of the States and Europe. |
| doremi 27.05.2005 17:07 |
I STILL don't get why QPL thinks this isn't worthy of releasing on CD/DVD. It's Fabulous! What do they (Brian, Roger, Jim Beach) not like about it? |
| The King Of Rhye 28.05.2005 06:34 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: I STILL don't get why QPL thinks this isn't worthy of releasing on CD/DVD. It's Fabulous! What do they (Brian, Roger, Jim Beach) not like about it?possibly because there were some microphone glitches here and there on a few songs? thats the only reason I could think of.....I was just listening to that one a few days ago myself, and it certainly is great, though! |
| chewing gum bum 28.05.2005 08:23 |
I agree with you! Queen fans don't really care if there are any glitches or mics dropping in and out of the mix. We just want the footage. AND any extras that were filmed over those two nights. It would be a nice package if they were to interview people that were there including crew members, fans and the band members themselves. That would make up for and poor audio. |
| The King Of Rhye 28.05.2005 09:00 |
aside from the mic glitches, the audio quality is excellent though....and presumably any official release would be better quality than a bootleg... |
| Negative Creep 28.05.2005 09:02 |
It has no more glitches than MK. Apparently theres a problem with the piano mics or something, so they just need to patch in the soundbaord recording. The actual audio quality is better than MK, as is the picture quality. |
| don't_stop_me_now 9697 28.05.2005 09:27 |
Negative Creep wrote: The actual audio quality is better than MK, as is the picture quality.Really? I wonder then why they didn´t release Earl Courts instead of MK.. :/ |
| tilomagnet 28.05.2005 09:49 |
There are several problems I can think of: 1.the way the concert was filmed. The camera angles are quite strage. 2.the acoustics of the venue are/were apparently horrible. 3.Maybe they think that the setlist could be uninteresting for newer fans, as there is no WWRY, WATC, CLTCL etc. I wonder what about the second night at Earls Court. Did they have the same problems with the mics again? Was the audience better that night? I think these mic problems are more or less just an excuse for not releasing it. When planning to release this show they are most likely going to add some overdubs or patches anyway, so that shouldn´t be any serious problem really. |
| Negative Creep 28.05.2005 11:12 |
I have no problems with the way its filmed whatsoever - and it is archival footage, not a cutting edge production... the actual picture is a LOT sharper than MK. As for audio and the venues less than desirable acoustics... has little affect on the finished product - they have the multitracks to create the mix they want... people often comment on how quiet the crowd are at Earls Court... this is because the video circulating is merely a rough cut and doesn't include any of the ambience mic feeds, in fact it may just be the soundboard recording. |
| tilomagnet 28.05.2005 12:11 |
Yes, the circulating video is quite lacking audience noise and doesn´t have a lot atmosphere, but I think there is no genuine sbd recording of the show circulating, all the audios are actually ripped from the video. But you are right they can mix what they want, so that shouldn´t be the problem. However the argument still remains that Earls Court doesn´t include many "big hits", so maybe they fear it could fail to sell well for that reason. |
| Negative Creep 28.05.2005 12:27 |
Yeah, but Queens 70's output is highly rated (much more so than their 80's output) and any such release would get great reviews and WOULD sell extremely well. It probably wouldn't sell quite as well as Wembley as it is basically a greatest hits set and is the erm... image of Freddie QP like to promote these days for the benefit of the typically non music buying public who have little knowledge of Queen as a rock band. QP to some degree have decided that 80's Queen is the most saleable, which I don't believe is the case whatsoever. A 70's release would also go down a LOT better in the US. |
| doremi 28.05.2005 13:29 |
Negative Creep wrote: Yeah, but Queens 70's output is highly rated (much more so than their 80's output) and any such release would get great reviews and WOULD sell extremely well. It probably wouldn't sell quite as well as Wembley as it is basically a greatest hits set and is the erm... image of Freddie QP like to promote these days for the benefit of the typically non music buying public who have little knowledge of Queen as a rock band. QP to some degree have decided that 80's Queen is the most saleable, which I don't believe is the case whatsoever. A 70's release would also go down a LOT better in the US.Totally agree. I want something that does NOT have all the same old hits and 80's rehash stuff. Queen were at their artistic peak in the 70's and the Earl's Court setlist is fabulous, as is are the band's entire performances, the costumes, the sets, everything. It's WAY better than MK..and I love MK... They can remix and correct any glitches. Just release the dam thing.. I'd bet the farm, it would probably turn out to be the best selling project QPL has put out to date...if they would think from a fan and artistic perspective...instead of a typical beancounting commercial perspective. I love MK and Live At Wembley...but let's start seeing some definitive, artistic product now and stop repackaging the 80;s concerts over & over, which I love..but it's basically the same stuff, over and over. Go back to the GREAT influential days/years of Queen...that defined them as one of music's most pioneering, innovative, and influential bands...in the 70's. Geez Louise! |
| doremi 28.05.2005 16:47 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Great show, but IMHO Hammersmith '79 was better.So release that too! Again, what are Brian's, Jim Beach's & QPL problems with releasing the MOST wanted, respected, and loved material by fans who WILL pay for this material on CD/DVD from the vaults? It's like they are totally clueles on this matter. I KNOW they read QZ and various fan sites, and get letters emails. They are very much aware of what IS in demand and waht WILL sell. So what's the damn problem? P.S. Brian, Roger, Jim Beach, if you read this, you can quote me! |
| JDL2nd 28.05.2005 18:05 |
They should release Earls Court !!!! But I also thought a double "Hammersmith dvd" should be interesting with the concert from 1975 and the concert from 1979 + some extras (if they excist). What do you think of that ??? _________ fun it |
| NTL 28.05.2005 20:08 |
The reason they wont release this is in my opinion because they simply cant be bothered. Earls Court, Houston and Hammy'79 are all releasable but it would mean digging out the master video tapes and doing a full edit for the picture, aswell as cleaning them up, and doing a full audio mix in 2.0 and 5.1 from scratch. Remember before MK was released Brian going on about how many problems they were having putting it together and how much of a bad state the masters were in, could you imagine the amount of whinging he would do if they deciced to work on Earls Court. Look at Wembley, they stuck in the bits that were missing from the VHS and gave us the audio from the CD !!!!. They couldnt even be bothered to do a 5.1 mix, instead they 'expanded' the sound to give the illusion of 5.1. And what are they talking about giving us next ?, Hammy '75 which will be taken straight from the BBC master tape with no audio mix because they dont have the multi-tracks, so that will be a nice easy job. And Budapest which will be another Wembley, another nice easy job. I think it will be a looooong long time before we see any of the shows mentioned at the top of this post. |
| vadenuez 29.05.2005 00:02 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:For once, I agree 100% with you, Arlene.Negative Creep wrote: Yeah, but Queens 70's output is highly rated (much more so than their 80's output) and any such release would get great reviews and WOULD sell extremely well. It probably wouldn't sell quite as well as Wembley as it is basically a greatest hits set and is the erm... image of Freddie QP like to promote these days for the benefit of the typically non music buying public who have little knowledge of Queen as a rock band. QP to some degree have decided that 80's Queen is the most saleable, which I don't believe is the case whatsoever. A 70's release would also go down a LOT better in the US.Totally agree. I want something that does NOT have all the same old hits and 80's rehash stuff. Queen were at their artistic peak in the 70's and the Earl's Court setlist is fabulous, as is are the band's entire performances, the costumes, the sets, everything. It's WAY better than MK..and I love MK... They can remix and correct any glitches. Just release the dam thing.. I'd bet the farm, it would probably turn out to be the best selling project QPL has put out to date...if they would think from a fan and artistic perspective...instead of a typical beancounting commercial perspective. I love MK and Live At Wembley...but let's start seeing some definitive, artistic product now and stop repackaging the 80;s concerts over & over, which I love..but it's basically the same stuff, over and over. Go back to the GREAT influential days/years of Queen...that defined them as one of music's most pioneering, innovative, and influential bands...in the 70's. Geez Louise! Hey, feels good after all ;) |
| NOTWMEDDLE 29.05.2005 00:19 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Queen were at their peak commercially here in the US in 1977 and the Earls Court or even the Houston Summit shows would do BIG BUSINESS here in the States. I say release Earls Court 1977 or Houston Summit December, 1977 next!Negative Creep wrote: Yeah, but Queens 70's output is highly rated (much more so than their 80's output) and any such release would get great reviews and WOULD sell extremely well. It probably wouldn't sell quite as well as Wembley as it is basically a greatest hits set and is the erm... image of Freddie QP like to promote these days for the benefit of the typically non music buying public who have little knowledge of Queen as a rock band. QP to some degree have decided that 80's Queen is the most saleable, which I don't believe is the case whatsoever. A 70's release would also go down a LOT better in the US.Totally agree. I want something that does NOT have all the same old hits and 80's rehash stuff. Queen were at their artistic peak in the 70's and the Earl's Court setlist is fabulous, as is are the band's entire performances, the costumes, the sets, everything. It's WAY better than MK..and I love MK... They can remix and correct any glitches. Just release the dam thing.. I'd bet the farm, it would probably turn out to be the best selling project QPL has put out to date...if they would think from a fan and artistic perspective...instead of a typical beancounting commercial perspective. I love MK and Live At Wembley...but let's start seeing some definitive, artistic product now and stop repackaging the 80;s concerts over & over, which I love..but it's basically the same stuff, over and over. Go back to the GREAT influential days/years of Queen...that defined them as one of music's most pioneering, innovative, and influential bands...in the 70's. Geez Louise! |
| deleted user 29.05.2005 05:38 |
don't_stop_me_now wrote:Since they had sound problems and they sang false.Negative Creep wrote: The actual audio quality is better than MK, as is the picture quality.Really? I wonder then why they didn´t release Earl Courts instead of MK.. :/ |
| bitesthedust 29.05.2005 06:48 |
Negative Creep wrote: It has no more glitches than MK. Apparently theres a problem with the piano mics or something, so they just need to patch in the soundbaord recording. The actual audio quality is better than MK, as is the picture quality.Every live release has been patched up somewhere, so where's the problem? |
| Liquid Scream 29.05.2005 13:05 |
The second night at Earls Court must be better. The footage of Killer Queen from Rare Live is great! The first night was probably more of a warm up for the film crew much the same as the first night at Wembley. |
| Rick 29.05.2005 13:29 |
Liquid Scream wrote: The second night at Earls Court must be better. The footage of Killer Queen from Rare Live is great! The first night was probably more of a warm up for the film crew much the same as the first night at Wembley.It is. The second night is much better. No problems with mics or whatsoever. And they also played Sweet Lady during the second night. |
| OgreBattleField1980 29.05.2005 15:56 |
I have parts of this show .. and by far its my favorite from what i have seen tho ive never seen hammy 75 .. i did see hyde park 76 and like it equally as much as i do the earls court performance ... but id much prefer Earls court ... the version of White Queen and Death on Two Legs and Orge Battle are just amazing and I loved the Prophet song .. along with White Man ... They would be stupid not to go thru the hard work to replenish this video .. they dont realize how much money they could possibly make from those who studied Queens entire catalouge im a 1991 fan and have become quite a bigger fan of thier non single 70s tracks rather that the singles themselves .. and i dont think im the only one that would think those songs stand out either ... as we would be the ones buying this. |
| NTL 30.05.2005 11:33 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Hammy '79 IS being considered as a release.How do you know this ?. |
| bohemian 11513 30.05.2005 11:47 |
"...and they sang false." Glad you never heard me singing under the shower in the morning... I´m sure you would beg for Earls Court 1977 instead!!! :-)) |
| deleted user 30.05.2005 16:05 |
bohemian777 wrote: "...and they sang false." Glad you never heard me singing under the shower in the morning... I´m sure you would beg for Earls Court 1977 instead!!! :-))<Thijs mode> hehehe, okidoki <Thijs mode off> |
| jesse1945 31.05.2005 00:18 |
Simple. Queen productions must be think in the really queen fans like us, and leave aside commercial stuf. If this were officially realesed, sure we buy it, but Queen productions seems be blind. Come on guys, you (QPL) has a lot of money, you need realese this concert and forget it about the euros. We, the really queen fans need it. |
| KevMull 01.06.2005 07:42 |
There's only the two Hammermith concerts from the 70s worth releasing on DVD. EC and HP are poorly filmed IMO. You'd be forgiven if you thought that that they were performing to an empty house at Earl's Court! |
| NTL 01.06.2005 08:55 |
Kevo wrote: There's only the two Hammermith concerts from the 70s worth releasing on DVD. EC and HP are poorly filmed IMO. You'd be forgiven if you thought that that they were performing to an empty house at Earl's Court!Yes but, as mentioned before, you are judging EC from a bootleg with a rough video edit and probably no audio mix at all. Same goes for Houston |
| moonie 01.06.2005 09:36 |
Has anyone got a better Earls Court on dvd than Either the Silver Stallion or Pandora's Video Versions? There's apparently a new Japanese dvd which is just about broadcast quality which I would really like to get hold of Any info would be great! |
| NTL 01.06.2005 09:46 |
craggsa wrote: Has anyone got a better Earls Court on dvd than Either the Silver Stallion or Pandora's Video Versions? There's apparently a new Japanese dvd which is just about broadcast quality which I would really like to get hold ofI have the Pandoras one which is also the Silver Stallion version. As for the new Jap version, is that the one with the painting/drawing of Fred in his leotard with the blue background ?. |
| moonie 01.06.2005 10:57 |
Not sure about the cover mate, but I was surfing around a little while ago at work and I stumbled on a Japanese collectors site and he/she had 2 versions with screenshots of each One was the version we have (colour dropouts & stills between tracks) the other was stunning in comparison with perfect clarity and colour The problem is I cant find the site again in the history and all the text was of course in Japanese,so I dont know the origin of it. I presume it must be a new Japanese dvd release. |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2005 02:26 |
craggsa wrote: Not sure about the cover mate, but I was surfing around a little while ago at work and I stumbled on a Japanese collectors site and he/she had 2 versions with screenshots of each One was the version we have (colour dropouts & stills between tracks) the other was stunning in comparison with perfect clarity and colour The problem is I cant find the site again in the history and all the text was of course in Japanese,so I dont know the origin of it. I presume it must be a new Japanese dvd release.If you ever do find the link, please post it. Perhaps this could be an upgrade... but it's a matter of how much of an upgrade it is. I've gone through 4 or 5 versions of this video already. |
| Negative Creep 02.06.2005 11:55 |
Well, I think a few shows are being CONSIDERED. Hammy '79 strikes me as an odd choice though, unless they release it as a double DVD with Hammersmith '75 and the Rainbow film. |
| moonie 02.06.2005 12:26 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:I'll have a scoot around at the weekend and see if I can find it again Bobcraggsa wrote: Not sure about the cover mate, but I was surfing around a little while ago at work and I stumbled on a Japanese collectors site and he/she had 2 versions with screenshots of each One was the version we have (colour dropouts & stills between tracks) the other was stunning in comparison with perfect clarity and colour The problem is I cant find the site again in the history and all the text was of course in Japanese,so I dont know the origin of it. I presume it must be a new Japanese dvd release.If you ever do find the link, please post it. Perhaps this could be an upgrade... but it's a matter of how much of an upgrade it is. I've gone through 4 or 5 versions of this video already. |
| Liquid Scream 02.06.2005 18:04 |
I would prefer Hammersmith 79 over Earls Court anyday. Much better performance by the band, not to mention the smaller venue adds to the atmosphere. |
| Rick 03.06.2005 02:00 |
Kevo wrote: There's only the two Hammermith concerts from the 70s worth releasing on DVD. EC and HP are poorly filmed IMO. You'd be forgiven if you thought that that they were performing to an empty house at Earl's Court!Earls Court is poorly filmed, okay. But Hyde Park? Naah, that's one of the best filmed Queen-gigs. You have some nice shots of the band, the members on its own and offcourse the audience. I like the way it was filmed, the performance is offcourse another story. |
| deleted user 03.06.2005 04:03 |
Rick wrote:Indeed Hyde Park is tremendously filmed. Nice shots with the lighting and all. Budapest's also great filmed. Indeed Earls Court and also Japan '82 suck.Kevo wrote: There's only the two Hammermith concerts from the 70s worth releasing on DVD. EC and HP are poorly filmed IMO. You'd be forgiven if you thought that that they were performing to an empty house at Earl's Court!Earls Court is poorly filmed, okay. But Hyde Park? Naah, that's one of the best filmed Queen-gigs. You have some nice shots of the band, the members on its own and offcourse the audience. I like the way it was filmed, the performance is offcourse another story. |
| Fenderek 03.06.2005 04:09 |
The problem with Hyde Prk is though- it's a very bad performance... Flick Of the Wrist and Sweet Lady are the worst versions of those songs I've ever heard... |
| Rick 03.06.2005 04:59 |
Fenderek wrote: The problem with Hyde Prk is though- it's a very bad performance... Flick Of the Wrist and Sweet Lady are the worst versions of those songs I've ever heard...Hmm, I like Flick Of The Wrist and Sweet Lady during Hyde Park. Okay, Freddie's voice is not the best, but I like the harmonies of the 2 songs. And it is poorly recorded, so they sound a little weird, especially Freddie's voice and Brian's guitar. And they were very nervous, but there are also some very nice moments. I like '39, You Take My Breath Away, Liar and Keep Yourself Alive, those were very good. |