| doremi 20.05.2005 13:28 |
Here ya go! link |
| wstüssyb 20.05.2005 13:37 |
This movie was just too great, most people didnt have such high expectitaions, Right now this is like my 2nd all time fav. I can't wait to see when it comes out on DVD and the star wars box set, with some extra stuff, maybe enough to keep you inside for a full weekend. |
| Daburcor? 20.05.2005 14:35 |
I didn't really care too much for it. I thought it was OKAY. Nothing really special. |
| nil 20.05.2005 14:40 |
I'm gonna see it Tomorrow with my mate, who I'm dessperately trying to get with! LMAO Yeah can't wait, that Hayden bloke is FINE! |
| deleted user 22.05.2005 10:15 |
I saw it again last night and it really was a lot better the second time (you miss a lot when you watch a move that starts at midnight! LOL) |
| deleted user 22.05.2005 10:22 |
apart from the original 3, this ones the best! |
| Saint Jiub 22.05.2005 17:34 |
A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back are better IMHO. These movies had Harrison Ford, Carrie Fischer and Alec Guinness (at least in the first movie) as major characters. These actors and actresses could make lame dialog sound reasonable. Sith's only major character that was an above average actor was Obi wan (Liam Neeson?) Sith is a great movie, but only the 3rd best out of 6. |
| Mr Drowse 23.05.2005 04:40 |
Ewan McGregor! |
| Sonia Doris 23.05.2005 04:42 |
Mr Drowse wrote: Ewan McGregor!agree :P |
| Mr.Jingles 23.05.2005 09:06 |
After watching 'Attack Of The Clones' last night I realized that Hayden Christensen had one hell of a lot of improvement as an actor on 'Revenge Of The Sith'. Natalie Portman on the other hand was very wooden. Seems weird because back when she was 13 she gave an aweome performance on 'Leon: The Proffessional'. At that time she seemed like the most promising young actress. |
| Fraz 23.05.2005 10:11 |
i saw the Revenge Of The Sith and thought it was great. |
| doremi 23.05.2005 11:38 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: After watching 'Attack Of The Clones' last night I realized that Hayden Christensen had one hell of a lot of improvement as an actor on 'Revenge Of The Sith'. Natalie Portman on the other hand was very wooden. Seems weird because back when she was 13 she gave an aweome performance on 'Leon: The Proffessional'. At that time she seemed like the most promising young actress.Woops...didn't see this. I just created a topic about Attack Of The Clones which I have never seen because of the awful reviews and my friends ragging on it. Last night I watched it on TV for the first time and I loved it. The direction and script are weak but I loved the film. I have to admit too I have seen "The Professional" about a dozen times and Natalie Portman blew me away. Then again she was under the great direction of Luc Besson. My feeling, from watching Attack Of The Clones (as I have NOT yet seen Revenge of The Sith), is that she is suffering from George Lucas' very weak direction. Reason..I was apalled at how wooden Samuel L. Jackson and the great Christopher Lee were...and I KNOW how talented and great they are as actors as I have seen tons of their films. So if THEY were wooden, and they are veteran, seasoned great talents/actors..under Lucas' weak/tepid direction..that explains Heyden Christianson & Natalie Portman's wooden performances...and I would like to see both of them blossom under a great Director. Natalie was also great This year co-starring in "Closer". I LOVE George Lucas as a storyteller, a Producer, the creator of Star Wars, but he needs to let other Directors who are better at their craft, direct, such as Irvin Kirshner with The Empire Stikes Back & Richard Marquand with Return Of The Jedi. |
| Mr.Jingles 23.05.2005 13:13 |
I remember reading once that Steven Spielberg said to Lucas that he'd love to direct 'Revenge Of The Sith', but Lucas very keen on directing the last chapter of the saga. Personally I think the movies would have been much better if directed by Spielberg, while Lucas takes care of all aspects of production. After all, they did a superb job on the 'Indiana Jones' trilogy, and the acting on those is better than on the 'Star Wars' movies. |
| doremi 23.05.2005 18:42 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I remember reading once that Steven Spielberg said to Lucas that he'd love to direct 'Revenge Of The Sith', but Lucas very keen on directing the last chapter of the saga. Personally I think the movies would have been much better if directed by Spielberg, while Lucas takes care of all aspects of production. After all, they did a superb job on the 'Indiana Jones' trilogy, and the acting on those is better than on the 'Star Wars' movies.Have you heard the rumors about a TV spinoff, or...another 3 Trilogy film series picking up where Return Of The Jedi left off? I have read a ton of press with rumors about BOTH that Lucas won't confirm or deny. |
| Mr.Jingles 23.05.2005 18:49 |
Lucas said he's done with the Star Wars movies, and he won't be directing, writing, or producing any more films in what would is rumored to be a new trilogy with episodes VII, VII, and IX. He said however that he's working on a TV series that is going to tie up episodes III, and IV. |
| doremi 23.05.2005 19:06 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Lucas said he's done with the Star Wars movies, and he won't be directing, writing, or producing any more films in what would is rumored to be a new trilogy with episodes VII, VII, and IX. He said however that he's working on a TV series that is going to tie up episodes III, and IV.And I'll beleive that when Yoda comes over my house tonight for dinner! LOL! Lucas SWORE that in 1983..he was finished with Star Wars...and yet...May The Force Be With Him! Read all the "rumored press" in SFX, Dreamquest, etc. most of the film/science fiction mags, they all say "another chapter".... Oh...Jingles our hate for Rolling Stone in their mean regards to Queen, notwithstanding, PLEASE read the outstanding Cover Story in RS with Darth Vader on the cover...covering Darth Vader as the Greatest Villain in Film History, . all about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin/Vader with Excellent in depth interviews with George Lucas...and... Interviews with Heyden Christiansan as Anakin, Jake Lloyd as little Anakin, Mark Hamill as Luke/Anakin's son, David Prowse as the body of Vader, and James Earl Jones as the voice of Vader. I read it like 3 times. Very well done. |
| Mr.Jingles 23.05.2005 19:19 |
I hate Rolling Stone, so I will just go to Barnes and Noble and read the whole thing. |
| doremi 23.05.2005 19:20 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I hate Rolling Stone, so I will just go to Barnes and Noble and read the whole thing.That's what I do all the time with RS. I never buy it. I read it our Barnes & Nobles here in Maryland. You really will love it though. |
| doremi 23.05.2005 19:31 |
Check out this animated graphic. About a third of George Lucas' interview is on the website. If you want to read the entire interview with George Lucas and also the interviews with Heyden Christensen, Mark Hamill, James Earl Jones, Jake Lloyd, & David Prowse go look at the actual magazine. link |
| Taylor-Mayed 26.05.2005 08:20 |
Saw "Revenge of the Sith" yesterday. I'm not a major Star Wars fan, but it was enjoyable enough, and certainly better than the last couple. The sadist in me loved seeing pretty-boy Anakin having his remaining limbs chopped off and then set on fire. Tee hee! |
| GreatKingSam 26.05.2005 10:02 |
What a film... Very well done. Acting wasn't at all bad in my opinion, and I've always liked Hayden Christiansen, especially his powerful representations of anger and evil. Sometimes I get the impression that people are quick to jump on the "the Prequel Trilogy are and the actors are crap" bandwagon in a similar way that some on here are quick to say "Paul Rodgers and Queen are rubbish, I don't believe in Queen past 1991", which is a shame if you can't form your own opinions. But that isn't pointed at anyone in particular. But, how can people say it has tied everything up and they understand everything in the Original Trilogy becuase of this? For example... why doesn't Obi-Wan remember Leia? ("That boy is our only hope...") when he bloody 'helped' deliver the babies? What does Qui-Gon teach Obi-Wan on Tatooine? When Luke asks Yoda if Han, Leia etc will die when on Cloud City and Yoda says "hard to see the future is" - why doesn't he sense Chewbacca's presence - especially since he was a good friend of Yoda's? Just simple things that don't quite make sense. How did, and for how long previous to the end of the Clone Wars, has the Emporer amassed such an army (e.g. the 'soldiers' we see in grey suits throughout the Original Trilogy - did he despense of the clones and the droids?). I think of so many more points the more I delve... |
| Mr.Jingles 26.05.2005 10:36 |
There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam... - Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore. - Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old? |
| doremi 26.05.2005 11:02 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam... - Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore. - Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old?Mr. J. since though I have not yet seen the film yet, I know enough about the end already..so please tell me one thing I want to know. Does Padme die in childbirth as Anakin had dreamed in his nightmare, or does she live? What happens to her? |
| GreatKingSam 26.05.2005 11:08 |
Remember what Yoda said - through the Force you can visit people, old friends, long gone. I believe it is the mother-daughter bond bought forward into her memories via the Force, and because, at the time, she didn't have a reason to believe these memories were planted there, she accepts them as if they were reality as such. Notice how she talks more about feelings (she was always very said etc). And as for Obi-Wan, there are a couple of angles you can look at it. Firstly that he wanted Anakin to suffer and assumed his death was imminent. Secondly, that perhaps he realised that he could still be the chosen one, just in a different way the Jedi has thought and assumed. For example, when Yoda says how the Prophecy could have been miss-read: that perhaps Anakin was still the chosen and WOULD eventually bring balance to the Force, but to do so he had to become evil and the Jedi had to become all but extinct, becuase in the end the Force is balanced per se. One of the things that has gripped me is the emergance of Darth Plageus the Wise (that Palpatine talks about), who was murdered by his pupil in his sleep. To me, Palpatine was the pupil, and through Plageus' teachings, Palpatine learned how to create life from the midicloriens, thus created Anakin for the sole purpose of turning him to evil. Which brings us to the conclusion that everything that happens has been planned by the Emperor - except for him not being able to forsee the birth of Luke (and Leia to an extent). |
| doremi 26.05.2005 11:12 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Great King Sam or Mr J...please answer my question.Mr.Jingles79 wrote: There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam... - Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore. - Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old?Mr. J. since though I have not yet seen the film yet, I know enough about the end already..so please tell me one thing I want to know. Does Padme die in childbirth as Anakin had dreamed in his nightmare, or does she live? What happens to her? |
| GreatKingSam 26.05.2005 11:21 |
Hmm, I feel somewhat guilty about talking so openly about the film now, perhaps we should have put a spoiler warning on the thread or something. However, as such, she does die during/after childbirth, but I wouldn't say it was as a direct result of childbirth. I guess you'll just have to see the film...!! |
| doremi 26.05.2005 11:37 |
GreatKingSam wrote: Hmm, I feel somewhat guilty about talking so openly about the film now, perhaps we should have put a spoiler warning on the thread or something. However, as such, she does die during/after childbirth, but I wouldn't say it was as a direct result of childbirth. I guess you'll just have to see the film...!!Which shows that one of the MAIN reasons that Anakin turned to the dark side (from what I have heard), being that he thought the power of the dark side could give him power over life & death, and he could save Padme...he turned to evil..for nothing...since one cannot change fate/destiny..and the balance of things as they are to be. So tragic this film and story is. Everyone we love as characters and heroes, dies and/or suffers. Anakin dies (in a sense) esuing virtue to become the evil of Darth Vader, Padme dies, Obi wan loses 2 of his dearest friends who are like family to him. This film is heartbreaking. Even knowing how it all wraps up "happy" in "return Of The Jedi" when Anakin is redeemed by Luke and becomes good, and Yoda's, Obi Wan's and Anakin's spirits are still alive and look fondly at Luke, finally at peace.....it still is after decades of death and evil from when the Empire kills off the Jedi and takes over the Galaxies, and Anakin does forsake his mortal "good" life, Padme dies, Obi Wan becomes an old recluse...so sad. |
| GreatKingSam 26.05.2005 11:40 |
You think that is sad lol. There are some scenes in the movie that made me slightly tearful. Let us know when you've finally seen it (which is going to be...?) just to see if it did illicit the same reaction from you. I didn't anticipate or really think about the scene I'm talking about, and I think that is what shocked me most, becuase that part of the story slipped my mind. And as for Obi-Wan's 'speech' at the end - I thought that was awesome. |
| GreatKingSam 26.05.2005 11:44 |
I tell you what, it does completely change your opinion of Darth Vader as a being also, given his struggle and reason that he turned and gave his life up, and it changes views of the Emporer also. He was always evil, no doubt about it, but there is something far more sinister about his character now, given we knew nothing of his beginning before the prequel trilogy was made. |
| deleted user 26.05.2005 20:41 |
"Which shows that one of the MAIN reasons that Anakin turned to the dark side (from what I have heard), being that he thought the power of the dark side could give him power over life & death, and he could save Padme...he turned to evil..for nothing...since one cannot change fate/destiny..and the balance of things as they are to be." - It is not only because he wants to save Padme that he turns to the dark side. There are other leading elements that contributed to his turning. For instance, the dark side clouded his judgement, as well as he wanted power. If you pay attention to it, in nearly every scene that Anakin is in, there is a reason for his turning to the dark side. |
| GreatKingSam 27.05.2005 04:11 |
Ultimately, I think the Dark Side is just an alternate idea placed into the minds of people, and they are just led there of their own accord, allowing them to be there ebcuase of their own anger for certain things. I say this, becuase in the end, it is Anakin's own insecurities and such that lead him to the Dark Side, just with a slight nudge from the Emporer. Except, the Emporer just kind of puts ideas into his head, like I say, and makes Anakin draw his own conclusions. For example, thinking Obi-Wan and Padmé betrayed him on Mustafar, being told that he killed Padmé etc rather than he just turned evil and that was that. Have you been able to see it yet Arlene? |
| dragonzflame 27.05.2005 19:21 |
Did anyone else notice that when Padme was pregnant her belly would keep growing and shrinking between scenes? And why did she still look pregnant when she was dead? In all I tried not to expect too much from it and I was pleasantly surprised...it wasn't the greatest of all the movies but it finished things off nicely despite all the plot holes previously mentioned. I enjoyed Anakin being dismembered and burnt :-) But I wish George Lucas had let someone else write it. As Harrison Ford said, "George, you can type this shit, but you can't speak it." Do you blame Anakin from turning to the Dark Side when he was constantly called Annie? |
| Megamike The GREAT 27.05.2005 21:43 |
dragonzflame wrote: Did anyone else notice that when Padme was pregnant her belly would keep growing and shrinking between scenes? And why did she still look pregnant when she was dead?That was done intentionally.. it was to keep the Sith from knowing that the children were born, in case there was a spy there... and remember.. Anakin never died, so they wanted to keep it looking like she died before childbirth, you have to remember, this is a culture different than our own.. maybe they do not embalm their dead, maybe they have different ways of burying their dead.. who knows.. :P |
| GreatKingSam 28.05.2005 05:11 |
That's why the Empire Strikes Back was possibly the best and stood out the most - he got someone to "sript it" for him. A sci-fi writer called Lea Bracket (sp?). Also, when she wrote it, she was suffering from terminal cancer, which is basically the reason why the film was so dark, becuase it reflected the moods that she was feeling at the time. Anyway... most royalty are buried in temples, much like Egyptian pharaohs. Padmé would have been buried with other Queens etc, or possibly with family. And like you said, they made it look like she died with the babies because they had to make sure no-one found out that she had children, not least the Empire/the Sith. |
| doremi 28.05.2005 13:13 |
GreatKingSam wrote: That's why the Empire Strikes Back was possibly the best and stood out the most - he got someone to "sript it" for him. A sci-fi writer called Lea Bracket (sp?). Also, when she wrote it, she was suffering from terminal cancer, which is basically the reason why the film was so dark, becuase it reflected the moods that she was feeling at the time. Anyway... most royalty are buried in temples, much like Egyptian pharaohs. Padmé would have been buried with other Queens etc, or possibly with family. And like you said, they made it look like she died with the babies because they had to make sure no-one found out that she had children, not least the Empire/the Sith.Lawrence Kasdan also collaborated on the script for Emire Strikes Back as well and of course the great Irvin Kirshner directed it and brought out the best in all of the actors, dialogue, the script, story, etc. I just read ..speaking of Empire Strikes Back...the UK magazine Empire's Cover Story on Sith with Interviews with Lucas,, the entire cast, crew. It is excellent. I still am waiting to see it. I actually called 2 movie theaters last night, and they are sold out (prob. due to the holiday weekend as it is memorial day here in the USA and all the kiddies are on holiday off from school)..so I will try and hold out til next week. This is driving me nuts I want to see it so bad...even though I already know the whole story now...I don;t care. It appears to be a brilliant film, the best of the 6 films with the exception of Empire and I want to see it!!!! NOW!!!! I will have to be strong and "use the force". :) |
| GreatKingSam 28.05.2005 13:19 |
Well, we'll keep our mouths shut as much as we can concerning plot until you've seen it. Ideally, you wanna see it somewhere where you can reserve seats, so you don't get stuck in the front row (like me and my slow lazy friends who took ages to leave the pub before hand lol). |