QueenZone discussion #539177
Gary Cherone would have been better
| caviar 18.05.2005 15:33 |
at least this guy knew the songs... |
| Serry... 18.05.2005 15:52 |
At least all Queen fans know the songs, but this doesn't mean that they would have been better |
| Saint Jiub 18.05.2005 15:55 |
Didn't Gary already ruin Van Halen? I shudder to think that Gary could have dragged down Queen. Wasn't Blobby, 5ive and Britney bad enough? |
| Bobby_brown 18.05.2005 16:57 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Didn't Gary already ruin Van Halen? I shudder to think that Gary could have dragged down Queen. Wasn't Blobby, 5ive and Britney bad enough?Gary didn´t ruin Van Halen. He´s a great singer and has done a great job in Van Halen! Listen to "From affar" from Van Halen 3 and you´ll know what i mean. Take care |
| doremi 18.05.2005 18:15 |
Serry Funster wrote: At least all Queen fans know the songs, but this doesn't mean that they would have been betterHey speak for yourself. I'm a diva! Just kidding Sergey. Actually Gary Cherone super sucks and I am not even a fan of VH but he still sucked with them. Roth & Hagar are the only singers who could make that band legit. If Queen God Forbid had ever considered Cherone....nope only in an anti matter universe like on that show "Lost In Space", where everything is dark and evil and majorly SCREWED up... |
| Scott_Mercury 18.05.2005 20:57 |
What the F?? Give me Paul Rodgers anyday of Gary Cherone... When Cherone is on stage, he acts so gay that Freddie and Liberace would look at each other and say "What a fag." :) |
| Knute 18.05.2005 22:11 |
Cherone can suck a big fat dick. He's a nobody now...What in the hell has he done lately? Apart from appear on the Vh1 reunions show looking desperate to reform Extreme(who were a flash in the pan). I don't get what people see in this guy. In a world of rock n roll giants, Cherone is a flea jumping around aimlessly. And this whole missed words thing is so stupid because only one guy messed up the words at Sheffield(The one that's gonna be released for the world to see) That guy? Roger Taylor, who messed up the words to TATDOOL. |
| Scott_Mercury 18.05.2005 22:52 |
Paul Rodgers has alot more back catalog of songs in his head too he has to remember, and keep straight. Paul has fronted 3 world reknown bands...Bad Company, Free, The Firm... Plus his own material... Now he has to learn Freddie's part on some select songs. Meanwhile, Cherone has "Hole Hearted", "More than words"....and the VERY mild hit with Van Halen "Without You", which peaked at #43 on the US charts. |
| Grantcdn 18.05.2005 23:09 |
Paul Rodgers is a superstar with hits from everything he has done since the late 60s....Gary was okay for a brief period in the 90s....Freddie looked up to Paul.....Freddie didn't even know Gary....Paul, Brian, and Roger are the same generation of rockers....Paul is fantastic....Gary is good.......but if you want to do shows that are BIG: Everyone knows Paul; hardly anyone knows Gary anymore....they'll go to see Paul interpret the songs....but I doubt too many would be interested in Gary.....I like Gary but he doesn't stack up as a legend himself |
| Oberon 19.05.2005 04:59 |
Gary was suited to Extreme (shame they couldn't follow up on Pornograffitti and III Sides. They had a lot of talent. Haven't heard any of Nuno's solo/new band stuff or VH with Gary, but I liked Extreme - listening to them right now actually!!!). Anyway, Gary was good with Extreme, and Extreme did brilliantly at the tribute, but they did it in their own style, and I don't think he'd fit in with Bri and Roger's style. Same goes for Robbie Williams and George Michael. B&R can adapt to work with PR, but I don't think it would've worked with these others who have been mentioned. |
| Fenderek 19.05.2005 05:52 |
They did a graeat medley at the Tribute gig. That's it/ Paul did agreat Tour. |
| Dicky Hart 19.05.2005 08:07 |
I still think they should have went with Chris Thompson. |
| RohemianBapsody 19.05.2005 08:23 |
Dicky Hart wrote: I still think they should have went with Chris Thompson.I think Paul Rodgers has a better voice than Chris Thompson. |
| Fenderek 19.05.2005 08:25 |
and I think they should have gone with Krzysztof krawczyk. I'm sure you don't know the guy but he's good (actually... not really, just wanted to com up with something taht sounds weird...). They went with Paul Rodgers. They could have gone with Ian Gillan or Robert Plant but they didn't. Gary Charone would have been better? Chris Thompson? Jamiroquai? Gareth Gates? Liam Gallagher? How many more names are we gonna come up with...? Should we do a contest...? We had so many threads like that already... |
| Lord Blackadder 19.05.2005 10:13 |
What are you on about? Paul hasnt forgot the words since 46664. And even if he has missed a few words, remember they arent his songs. |
| Bobby_brown 19.05.2005 14:54 |
Now everyone likes Paul, funny ... I just don´t see a purpose of smacking down Gary when hes been compared with Paul. But hey, you guys have donne a great job smacking down Paul when he was been compared to Fredie. By the way, Paul fronted four world top class bands: Free, Bad Company, The Firm, Queen. Take care |
| Dicky Hart 19.05.2005 15:28 |
Dont get me wrong, I think Paul is great, he is doing a fabulous job and has a superb voice. Chris, for me, I might say has put a lot of work into Queen into the past, his versions of Queen songs with the SAS Band are superb, I was fortunate enought to be at the Ocean gig a few years back, when they did a full set of Queen stuff and he was brilliant. He sings with a lot of passion. |
| Paul Fisher 19.05.2005 18:29 |
For crying out bloody loud! If Jesus Christ had sung lead vocals someone would still have objected! Face it - Brian and Roger had to pick someone they knew and could rely on. It could have been soooooo much worse - they could have picked ANITA!!!!! or George Michael or Elton or Robbie......zzzzzzzzzz NEW TOPIC PLEASE |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 19.05.2005 18:39 |
Paul Rogers must go he is piss poor and fronted bands no 1 has ever heard of. |
| Smitty 19.05.2005 20:50 |
Paul Rodgers is pi&# poor and blah blah blah blah blabby blubbery bub. BPP, insult rodgers somewhere else. or at least constructively criticize him. Just a thought AND LEARN HOW TO SPELL RODGERS RIGHT!!! |
| Daburcor? 19.05.2005 21:03 |
Paul Fisher wrote: It could have been soooooo much worse - they could have picked ANITA!!!!! or George Michael or Elton or Robbie......zzzzzzzzzz NEW TOPIC PLEASEAnd how EXACTLY would George Michael be WORSE? |
| brENsKi 20.05.2005 03:54 |
Gary Cherone would've been better.....................................................than........... Gary Glitter Gary Cooper Gary lineker Gary Sinise Gary Barlow |
| Knute 20.05.2005 03:57 |
George Michael would fall apart with many of the songs they played on tour. I can't imagine him doing HTF, IWIA, TYMD. He could probably do TSMGO pretty good. Basically any of the rockers I think he would struggle with quite a bit. And I can't imagine an encore of Wake Me Up Before you Go Go into WWRY WATC. |
| Fenderek 20.05.2005 04:44 |
Dan Corson wrote:Can you imagine him singing Tie Your Mother Down or Fat Bottomed Girls...?Paul Fisher wrote: It could have been soooooo much worse - they could have picked ANITA!!!!! or George Michael or Elton or Robbie......zzzzzzzzzz NEW TOPIC PLEASEAnd how EXACTLY would George Michael be WORSE? The tour wouldn't rock as it did. We would have got mre poppy stuff. I like it exactly the way it was- heavy, raw, GREAT! |
| Bob The Shrek 20.05.2005 05:13 |
Gary Mullen would be better than Gary Cherone. |
| Lord Blackadder 20.05.2005 05:39 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Paul Rogers must go he is piss poor and fronted bands no 1 has ever heard of.You've never heard of Free or Bad Company? Yes you have you twat. |
| Daburcor? 20.05.2005 10:23 |
Knute wrote: Basically any of the rockers I think he would struggle with quite a bit. And I can't imagine an encore of Wake Me Up Before you Go Go into WWRY WATC.Well, I can guarantee you that he'd do them better than Paul Rodgers. He's a better singer. Just because he DOESN'T sing heavy rock songs doesn't mean he CAN'T. |
| Fenderek 20.05.2005 10:27 |
Dan Corson wrote: Well, I can guarantee you that he'd do them better than Paul Rodgers. He's a better singer.No he's not. Prove me wrong... :) It's justa matter of taste, isn't it? Paul is acclaimed as the best white blues oriented singer EVER. George isn't. And that is the fact. But can you measure it? |
| Daburcor? 20.05.2005 10:46 |
Paul may be one of the world's best blues singers, But what does that matter? Queen isn't a blues band. I (as in Me, myself and...) think that George's voice is MUCH better suited to Queen's songs. Not to mention the range and power! A lot of people seem to think that George is some thin voiced, run of the mill pop singer, And that is just NOT true. His music may be poppy for the most part but that's because that's the kind of music he wants to make. Now, Before anyone goes and gets upset, I am NOT saying that Paul is a bad singer! I'm just saying that, In my opinion, His voice and style of singing do not fit with Queen's music very well. CERTAINLY not as well as George's. And that's the last thing I'll say on this subject. |
| brENsKi 20.05.2005 10:52 |
Dan Corson wrote: Paul may be one of the world's best blues singers, But what does that matter? Queen isn't a blues band. I (as in Me, myself and...) think that George's voice is MUCH better suited to Queen's songs. Not to mention the range and power! A lot of people seem to think that George is some thin voiced, run of the mill pop singer, And that is just NOT true. His music may be poppy for the most part but that's because that's the kind of music he wants to make. Now, Before anyone goes and gets upset, I am NOT saying that Paul is a bad singer! I'm just saying that, In my opinion, His voice and style of singing do not fit with Queen's music very well. CERTAINLY not as well as George's. And that's the last thing I'll say on this subject.i agree completely with this it seems obvious that many people around here have never listened to FAITH or LISTEN WITHOUT PREDUJICE GM's vocals better fit queen's harmonies - but on the other hand PR has taken queen back to the SMILE generation - perhaps thta's what RT and BM wanted when they recruited him? |
| Fenderek 20.05.2005 11:07 |
<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote: i agree completely with this it seems obvious that many people around here have never listened to FAITH or LISTEN WITHOUT PREDUJICE GM's vocals better fit queen's harmonies - but on the other hand PR has taken queen back to the SMILE generation - perhaps thta's what RT and BM wanted when they recruited him?Exactly! What did Brian say before tour? They're doing it because it sounds DIFFERENT, because he sings them in DIFFERENT way and takes them to a DIFFERENT level. Whether you like it or not is another thing BUT that's why they did this Tour and that's why it's someone like Paul and not George or Robbie. I could agree taht George would fit this better IF the songs were to be sang the same way. But that wasn't the plan. They wanted something fresh, and that what made Brian move his ass from Dominion Theatre and go and play some rock'n'roll. not Robbie, not George, not Charone- Paul with his voice made Brian do that. As he said- it's some kind of miracle... And he said in Classic Rock- if you'd asked him about possibility of touring few months earlier he would have said no... Paul did the impossible, Brian stopped tinkering with WWRY and played some great, great shows... |
| Lisser 20.05.2005 11:08 |
I love GM's voice. Love it ,love it. |
| Scott_Mercury 20.05.2005 15:02 |
George Michael is a great singer. I have all of his stuff, and any live footage I can. But the problem would be that George himself has said "When I grew up, Freddie (Mercury,duh) was everything to me, I would sit in front of the mirror for hours pretending I was him, fronting the band singing "Somebody to Love"...... most all of my vocal style, I have got from him." Brian May has said that: "George Michael is the only other singer that I will hear off in a distance, and think, is someone playing a Queen song??? then when I get closer, no, its George..... he is full of Freddie-isms." OK ...THATS COOL.... if the guitar player for Queen, who worked more closely with Freddie for 20 years, thinks that in some ways you sound like Freddie.... then that is a MAJOR compliment in itself. I wish someone thought I sounded like Fred. But thats the same reason why George isn't doing it. 1) George has officially retired from the music business, saying the business is "bullshit". 2) George would be like a Freddie-impersonator. I think George could do believable/likeable covers of most of Queens catalog... Thats just it though... close covers look like "Freddie's replacement". I can't stand that idea.... nope, not even from George. Paul Rodgers is a world class singer who sounds/looks/acts nothing like Freddie Mercury. He adds his own style to the songs, he treats the legend of Freddie Mercury with much respect, and Paul is a class act. Paul Rodgers doesn't come out and try to do his best Mercury impersenation.... Paul Rodgers comes out and tries his best to be Paul Rodgers. He never acts like he "replaced Freddie"..... he explains he's "simply filling in because Freddie is no longer with us." I like that, and like him. Brian & Roger have the right guy for the job. |
| brENsKi 20.05.2005 17:41 |
Scott Mercury wrote: 2) George would be like a Freddie-impersonator. I think George could do believable/likeable covers of most of Queens catalog... Thats just it though... close covers look like "Freddie's replacement". I can't stand that idea.... nope, not even from George. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ but listening to his solo songs i think i'd love to hear him doing studio stuff with queen he write great stuff, and with Brian/Roger - the song-writing would stay queen-ish but have a different George-like feel to it |
| Janet 20.05.2005 17:43 |
Most excellent posts, Dan and Brenski. |
| Knute 21.05.2005 06:31 |
Dan Corson wrote:I like George Michael. I think he's a very good singer. But to even suggest he could do a better job of being a rock singer than Paul Rodgers is laughable at best. I bet George himself would laugh at that suggestion.Knute wrote: Basically any of the rockers I think he would struggle with quite a bit. And I can't imagine an encore of Wake Me Up Before you Go Go into WWRY WATC.Well, I can guarantee you that he'd do them better than Paul Rodgers. He's a better singer. Just because he DOESN'T sing heavy rock songs doesn't mean he CAN'T. Rodgers was belting it out before George had peach fuzz on his nuts. It amazes me that certain fans of such a quality band like Queen can be so closed minded at the same time towards one of Britian's greatest musical sons. Here's a fact. Try to refute this one. In the entire 48 year history of rock n roll, Paul Rodgers has the distinction of being the ONLY lead singer to lead three bands to international multi-platinum success. Out of all the great singers, Paul is the only guy to have acheived this. Isn't that worth a least a little bit of respect if you are going to call yourself a connoisseur of quality rock n' roll? Think about it. |
| bigc 21.05.2005 08:30 |
Sammy Hagar killed Van Halen, not Gary Cherone. Or perhaps more apprioprately, Eddie Van Halen and any alcohol he could find killed Van Halen listen to OU812, you'll see what I mean. "Feels So Good" such a cheesy,bad song. Then flick back to Fair Warning and "Push Comes to Shove", how the hell are both of them from 3 of the same personnel! there were occasional glimpses of greatness...but nothing compared to their first 6 albums with Roth. |
| Fenderek 21.05.2005 13:54 |
Anyway- would I want to hear few Gearge Michael tracks added to the setlist? Not really... And I loved the Bad Company / Free stuff they played... |
| OgreBattleField1980 21.05.2005 19:57 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Didn't Gary already ruin Van Halen? I shudder to think that Gary could have dragged down Queen. Wasn't Blobby, 5ive and Britney bad enough?Britney who .. please dont tell me Britney Spears did a cover Queen song?!?!?!?! That will sooo tick me off Im from Louisiana and I used to live not too far from where she did and think shes such a slut .... |
| Saint Jiub 22.05.2005 21:47 |
The Pepsi commercial with Pink and Beyonce of course. Who cares if Brittney is a slut or not ... unless you are bitter that she did not do you. LOL |
| OgreBattleField1980 25.05.2005 22:03 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: The Pepsi commercial with Pink and Beyonce of course. Who cares if Brittney is a slut or not ... unless you are bitter that she did not do you. LOLLMFAO!!! Of course im not bitter ...but I dont think ive ever seen that commercial in which you speak of. But its a shame that they would sink to such a level I think....I wouldnt care to hear it at all... infact i spit on that as much as i spit at Robbie Williams tearing apart a masterpiece such as we are the champions. |
| Dicky Hart 26.05.2005 01:45 |
did the cash from the pepsi advert not go the mercury pheonix trust, well at least thats what I heard. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 26.05.2005 07:12 |
Thanks for reminding me of Gary Cherone - makes me appreciate Paul Rodgers even more! |
| Fenderek 26.05.2005 07:39 |
Voice of Reason 2005 wrote: Thanks for reminding me of Gary Cherone - makes me appreciate Paul Rodgers even more!LOL- so true |
| Scott_Mercury 26.05.2005 22:59 |
I would rather they hired Bryan Adams than Cherone. |
| Knute 27.05.2005 02:20 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: I would rather they hired Bryan Adams than Cherone.LOL! Hell, I'd rather have Adam Ant than Cherone. |
| Oberon 27.05.2005 11:03 |
Knute wrote:That's going a bit far...Scott_Mercury wrote: I would rather they hired Bryan Adams than Cherone.LOL! Hell, I'd rather have Adam Ant than Cherone. |
| The Real Wizard 27.05.2005 12:07 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: What the F?? When Cherone is on stage, he acts so gay that Freddie and Liberace would look at each other and say "What a fag." :)Hahahahaha...!! Meanwhile, Cherone has "Hole Hearted", "More than words"....and the VERY mild hit with Van Halen "Without You", which peaked at #43 on the US charts.Don't rate talent based on commercial success. If that's how we're going to do things, then Britney Spears is one of the world's great singers. Knute wrote: In the entire 48 year history of rock n roll, Paul Rodgers has the distinction of being the ONLY lead singer to lead three bands to international multi-platinum success. Out of all the great singers, Paul is the only guy to have acheived this.Wow, I never thought of it that way. That's incredible! Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Paul Rogers must go he is piss poor and fronted bands no 1 has ever heard of.Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean everyone else is. |
| Saint Jiub 27.05.2005 21:26 |
R-t-B |
| The King Of Rhye 28.05.2005 06:21 |
just a few random thoughts on this topic.... I was actually a fan on Extreme and liked Gary in them....Extreme III Sides To Every Story was a great album.....and I did buy Van Halen III.....but I thought he kinda sucked there when compared to hwen he was in Extreme.....(anyone remember that song on VH III that sounded like they ripped off Sweet Lady, btw?) I would have to say though.....Paul is in a different league than Gary ever will be....I always considered Paul one of my favorite rock singers of all time (apart from Freddie of course :))..... I listened to that 05 Cardiff bootleg recently, and WOW....Paul was ON there.....just thought he was AWESOME on TSMGO, especially....and even liked how he did the Freddie-style thing on AOBTD, where he sings a line and the crowd sings it back.... |
| mustafunk 16.12.2005 16:40 |
Gary would have been a much better fit than Paul Rodgers...no one under 40 knows who PR is (at least in the US). The only reason Gary did not get the gig was b/c of the Van Halen situation...(and the comment about Eddie and the booze is spot on. The sad truth is that Eddie is currently in the process of drinking himself to death). If you can watch Extreme blow the (non-exsistant) roof off Wembly with their Queen medly at A Concert for Life along with Gary's Hammer to Fall performed with Queen and not see that he was an unbeleivable fit, then you SHOULD go see Queen with Paul Rodgers, and maybe if you're lucky Mick Jones will show up and sing too. Anyone recall Brian May's introduction of the Extreme during the tribute show - "These guys are real friends, and possibly more than any other band on the planet, understand what queen are about and what freddie was about all these years" - pretty strong words right from Brian's mouth. |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 16.12.2005 17:48 |
Yeah, I sgree that Gary would have been pretty good |
| Sharon G. 16.12.2005 18:14 |
Whenever I hear Paul Rodgers singing Queen songs, it reminds me of how much I miss Freddie!! |
| NOTWMEDDLE 16.12.2005 19:07 |
Dan Corson wrote: Paul may be one of the world's best blues singers, But what does that matter? Queen isn't a blues band. I (as in Me, myself and...) think that George's voice is MUCH better suited to Queen's songs. Not to mention the range and power! A lot of people seem to think that George is some thin voiced, run of the mill pop singer, And that is just NOT true. His music may be poppy for the most part but that's because that's the kind of music he wants to make. Now, Before anyone goes and gets upset, I am NOT saying that Paul is a bad singer! I'm just saying that, In my opinion, His voice and style of singing do not fit with Queen's music very well. CERTAINLY not as well as George's. And that's the last thing I'll say on this subject.George Michael however is HATED now in America. His credibilty went straight to Hell after grunge came! Then his infamous "bathroom" episode killed his credibilty ONCE AND FOR ALL here in the States! |
| gem27 17.12.2005 05:48 |
George Michael is HATED in America? Well if that's true shows what a crap country it really is. I am not a massive fan of his, i think some of his music is good some is ok and some terrible but what has he ever done to be HATED!!!!! |
| Haystacks Calhoun 17.12.2005 09:32 |
George Michael is not HATED in America. He is made fun of because he was stupid enough to get busted in a Bathroom.... Being hated, and being the punchline of a joke are two vastly different things.... |
| mustafunk 17.12.2005 10:41 |
GM isn't *hated* in america...his audience is just different here. He has zero cred/respect in the rock community, which in the US would be a large part of the crowd seeing Queen live. He is considered to be more of an easy-listening artist, with maybe some recent popularity in gay dance halls. No doubt he can handle the slower queen material, but I cringe at the thought of him fronting keep your self alive or stone cold crazy |
| Daburcor? 17.12.2005 11:29 |
I honestly don't get why people seem to think George Michael can't handle singing a 'rock' song. How daft can you be? Him NOT singing 'rock' songs has nothing to do with if he CAN or not. I'm so tired of making this argument... |
| mustafunk 18.12.2005 10:03 |
maybe GM can secrectly sing hard edged rock songs very well, but he certainly hasn't exhibited that skill thus far.........in america at least, the thought of it would make most people laugh |