deleted user 18.05.2005 11:01 |
Live aid 2 has been confirmed in the UK @ Hyde Park 2nd July. Can't see our boys playing it though as they are scheduled to play Lisbon. Shame ;-( |
Benn 18.05.2005 11:26 |
It's not Live Aid 2 and will not be billed as such. It's a benefit for the unbelieveably wealthy rock stars to show their support of Bono in his crusade ot get 3rd World debt wiped out - it's a nod to the G8 Countries and their governments. I understand it will be billed as Live 8. Geldoff has sworn that Live Aid will never happen again. |
neodave 18.05.2005 13:06 |
Benn wrote: It's not Live Aid 2 and will not be billed as such. It's a benefit for the unbelieveably wealthy rock stars to show their support of Bono in his crusade ot get 3rd World debt wiped out - it's a nod to the G8 Countries and their governments. I understand it will be billed as Live 8. Geldoff has sworn that Live Aid will never happen again.right!! |
Bobby_brown 18.05.2005 13:26 |
starfleet wrote: Live aid 2 has been confirmed in the UK @ Hyde Park 2nd July. Can't see our boys playing it though as they are scheduled to play Lisbon. Shame ;-(Not shame at all! I´m from Portugal and i´m going to enjoy every single minute of it! But, hey, they can make an appearance via Satelite, or they could put the Lisbon concert as part of Live 8. Take care |
GreatKingSam 18.05.2005 14:02 |
Another use of charity to boost Bono's ego I see... |
doremi 18.05.2005 14:20 |
Everything you might want to know or not want to know is here on my 2 blogs, including all press links to NME, Pollstar, Contactmusic, etc. with acts, dates, information, announcements..to LIVE 8. link link |
deleted user 18.05.2005 15:24 |
Benn wrote: I understand it will be billed as Live 8.Live8 was a suggestion for the title of the event being that the concerts timing coincided with the gathering of the G8 countries within the UK but this is far from confirmed. Geldoff was quoted to have been keen to launch the event under the status of Live Aid 'SIR BOB GELDOF has organised his LIVE AID II concert to coincide with this year's 2005, G8 summit - to put pressure on US president GEORGE W BUSH."' as pasted from the above links. The fact of the matter is, a concert is to be held on the afomentioned date to which one can deduce Queen will not be part of due to prior commitments. |
Bijou in Queen's crown 18.05.2005 17:11 |
I think it's stupid. I mean nothing could top Live Aid especially if they try top re-do it. And you can bet all the Z-list stars like Will Young and Rachel Stevens will be there. Purlease! |
doremi 18.05.2005 18:41 |
imslightlymad wrote: I think it's stupid. I mean nothing could top Live Aid especially if they try top re-do it. And you can bet all the Z-list stars like Will Young and Rachel Stevens will be there. Purlease!Don't think Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, U2, Elton John, Oasis, Bruce Springsteen, Coldplay, Madonna, and Eminem would appreciate that. They are already confirmed. Some of them are listed on the press release below, some have been added since. link FYI read my blog, all the updates are on it and all the information as to what G8 is and how and why it came about and what it is for. link link Also...since you all think U2 and Geldof have such egos...well unlike Live Aid, G8 will be... ....FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! The 2 concerts in London & Washington DC are being held to raise global awareness and NOT raid your wallet. How is that for NOT having egos. These stars are playing for free, donating their time and you can SEE them perform for FREE!!!! |
inu-liger 18.05.2005 19:44 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Damn! Wish I lived in London now :(imslightlymad wrote: I think it's stupid. I mean nothing could top Live Aid especially if they try top re-do it. And you can bet all the Z-list stars like Will Young and Rachel Stevens will be there. Purlease!Don't think Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, U2, Elton John, Oasis, Bruce Springsteen, Coldplay, Madonna, and Eminem would appreciate that. They are already confirmed. Some of them are listed on the press release below, some have been added since. link FYI read my blog, all the updates are on it and all the information as to what G8 is and how and why it came about and what it is for. link link Also...since you all think U2 and Geldof have such egos...well unlike Live Aid, G8 will be... ....FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! The 2 concerts in London & Washington DC are being held to raise global awareness and NOT raid your wallet. How is that for NOT having egos. These stars are playing for free, donating their time and you can SEE them perform for FREE!!!! |
john bodega 19.05.2005 01:53 |
But Elton John can't sing, he's crap. Why on earth would they want him or Robbie Williams to turn up? Well, I hate 'em but they seem to draw in hordes of morons to these events and they make a fair bit of dough, so if it'll help charity... PFFFT. And it's stupid. If someone doesn't turn up to a charity event they're called ignorant and told they have no heart. If they do turn up to a charity event, they're told that they're only doing it to feed their egos. Where exactly do you buggers get off? Bono might be a complete fucktard but heck - if the byproduct of that is at least a tiny bit of cash going to the 3rd world, then why the hell not? Just ignore him and his stupid glasses. |
GreatKingSam 19.05.2005 06:12 |
Some how, Bono will turn this around to help himself and U2, he always does. It's all well and good helping charities and all, but he makes such a big deal of it all the time, with press conferences and speeches before every other song at a U2 concert, he's just a bit too "look at me" for my liking. People help charities everyday, but it doesn't mean they all have to make press releases about it. |
dougbrown 19.05.2005 07:27 |
IS THIS ANOTHER THING FOR BONO TO THINK HE'S THE GREATEST STAR IN THE WORLD,GREATEST PRAT I WOULD GO FOR. HE IS TOTALLY OVER RATED & HE THINKS HE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ROCK STAR. PLUS I BET THERE IS SOME RUBBISH ON THE SHOW. ALSO GELDOF IS A PRAT TOO, WHAT ABOUT MIDGE URE, HE WAS AS MUCH A PART OF LIVE AID & GETS NO THANKS FOR IT. |
NTL 19.05.2005 07:33 |
I hear Bono is going to do a Phil Collins and fly from the London gig to the one in Washington. What a fucking 1st class DICK. |
RockMySock 19.05.2005 10:07 |
thank god they're playing in Lisbon that day cuz I'm gonna be there! :P and Bono as done a lot for charity so shut up! if it was Brian you would say that he was the greatest and what not! but since it is a member of another band you see him as a show off!! come on... |
scprof 19.05.2005 10:47 |
If Bob Geldof did not have a hand in organising this, then it would not be billed as Live Aid 2. It would just be called the Live 8 concert. But as he is involved everybody thinks that it is Live Aid 2. Also, people are slagging off Bono as he is helping organise the concert. They say that U2 will take it over. Would they be complaining if it was Brian & Roger who were helping to organise it. Definately not. They have already helped to organise big charity concerts in the past themselves and had no criticism, like both 46664 concerts and the Party @ the Palace. |
GreatKingSam 19.05.2005 10:48 |
The difference is, Brian wouldn't use the publicity from it to further his career. Everything Bono does is always so public etc Like when Eric Clapton, Bri etc met the Queen recently. If that was Bono, by lord he would have used that to talk about his poliical views - Brian just stayed out the way and was just happy to be there. I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really. |
Tero 19.05.2005 12:09 |
GreatKingSam wrote: I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really.Does it also say how much he donated to the people of Africa himself, or are you just assuming he spent all of his money in that restaurant? :/ |
Bobby_brown 19.05.2005 15:11 |
GreatKingSam wrote: The difference is, Brian wouldn't use the publicity from it to further his career. Everything Bono does is always so public etc Like when Eric Clapton, Bri etc met the Queen recently. If that was Bono, by lord he would have used that to talk about his poliical views - Brian just stayed out the way and was just happy to be there. I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really.At least Bono uses his "big ego" to help. How did our Freddie used his big ego? i´ve said this once and i´m going to say it again: In what charity is concerned Queen are not the best example of it. They only started doing REAL CHARITY after Freddie´s dead (I don´t consider the fact of play a big event like LIVE AID real charity)- While they where a four piece band they have donne NOTHING to put something like LIVE AID or the TRIBUTE in action. And they could have donne such beautifull things. I mean they were big in countries where people live miserabilly and they´ve donne nothing to bring awareness of it to the world. But still, it appears that there are fans that really believe that Queen are angels living among us -SINNERS. Take care |
doremi 19.05.2005 15:35 |
Bobby_brown wrote:I Totally agree with you and I said so when you posted pretty much what you said here on my Topic that it would be nice if Bob Geldof asked Queen+Paul Rodgers to play Live 8, and I as well had already said what you expressed here too. I love Queen, but they are not saints. and.... here's the thread... link here is what I said on there...GreatKingSam wrote: The difference is, Brian wouldn't use the publicity from it to further his career. Everything Bono does is always so public etc Like when Eric Clapton, Bri etc met the Queen recently. If that was Bono, by lord he would have used that to talk about his poliical views - Brian just stayed out the way and was just happy to be there. I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really.At least Bono uses his "big ego" to help. How did our Freddie used his big ego? i´ve said this once and i´m going to say it again: In what charity is concerned Queen are not the best example of it. They only started doing REAL CHARITY after Freddie´s dead (I don´t consider the fact of play a big event like LIVE AID real charity)- While they where a four piece band they have donne NOTHING to put something like LIVE AID or the TRIBUTE in action. And they could have donne such beautifull things. I mean they were big in countries where people live miserabilly and they´ve donne nothing to bring awareness of it to the world. But still, it appears that there are fans that really believe that Queen are angels living among us -SINNERS. Take care Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Leppar wrote: Stop defending the indefensible. He just likes to be in the public eye all the time - even when no one wants to see him. Why else would he keep 'selling' out to papers, magazines etc? Why doesn't he go over there himself and do some work - oh, thats right he gets people 'below' him to do it. Hardly a hero is he? Exactly.Apparently...you don't CHECK your facts. Geldof just got back from Africa, is getting ready to go over there again and has spent the last 20 years making NUMEROUS trips to the areas in Africa hardest hit by Famine and Aids. Areas with disease, plague, no running water..and he risks his life going to these areas, with tribal guides. I have SEEN him on these trips. |
doremi 19.05.2005 15:43 |
Also... from the thread I posted. copied.. Thanks Bobby, I totally agree with everything you said. And, yes I agree, that they did not get actively involved with AIDS benefits, things like 46664 with Nelson Mandela, The Terrance Higgins Trust, The Mercury Pheonix Trust...UNTIL it hit home and one of their own...Freddie...got and died from AIDS. THEN...Queen became actively involved with AIDS charities. |
RockMySock 19.05.2005 17:21 |
no comments! it's all very nicely written! :) |
GreatKingSam 20.05.2005 05:43 |
I never once said Queen were angels, but then again, Queen didn't have the press on their side, like Bono and Geldof. Queen didn't need to use the press to get anywhere back then, so perhaps it never really crossed their minds. Perhaps their form of charity was bringing joy to the faces of crowds? Who knows? But at the end of the day, I have not got a problem with charity. I do however have a problem with people using it for personal gain. The original 46664 concert... organised I do believe pretty much by Bri, Rog and Dave Stewart (obviosuly with Mandela too). Now - guess who the press focussed on? Bono (and Beyoncé a bit). Bri, Rog and Dave didn't turn around and say "actually, we did more than Bono to get this concert up and running". But they didnt. They just got about the business of charity, like the many other artsists. Meanwhile, Bono does all his press work.... |
Tero 20.05.2005 10:13 |
GreatKingSam wrote: The original 46664 concert... organised I do believe pretty much by Bri, Rog and Dave Stewart (obviosuly with Mandela too). Now - guess who the press focussed on? Bono (and Beyoncé a bit). Bri, Rog and Dave didn't turn around and say "actually, we did more than Bono to get this concert up and running". But they didnt. They just got about the business of charity, like the many other artsists. Meanwhile, Bono does all his press work....Was that just your local press, or was it the same worldwide? Obviously I read the official statements on QOL, but I can't remember hearing a single word from Bono about it before I saw the concert. :/ Maybe he just has more publicity value than Brian or Dave, and he was asked to do some of the promo work in certain markets? |
GreatKingSam 20.05.2005 10:41 |
My "local" press being nationwide newspapers and TV stations. When the concert "highlights" were shown one night late on Channel 4, focus was put on Bono and Beyoncé, with Queen appearing only at the end of the show, however with the focus put on Anastacia. At the end of the day, I think Bono is an attention seeking twat. Queen regardless. |
Tero 20.05.2005 10:51 |
GreatKingSam wrote: My "local" press being nationwide newspapers and TV stations. When the concert "highlights" were shown one night late on Channel 4, focus was put on Bono and Beyoncé, with Queen appearing only at the end of the show, however with the focus put on Anastacia. At the end of the day, I think Bono is an attention seeking twat. Queen regardless.Are you surprised that current and popular singers have more publicity value than two guitarists who used to be quite famous in the 80's? I'm certanly not! I guess that final sentence is the important thing here... You'll see Bono as a twat regardless of what he does, whereas most people will probably disagree with you. |
NTL 20.05.2005 11:23 |
Queen pre '91 always tried to stay away from charity and politics ( please dont start going on about Sun City ). Queen openly said their main reason for doing Live Aid was for self publicity but it was also nice to see some good coming from it. That is the difference between Queen and Bono, Queen admitted that it was promoting the band that was the main point of things, where Bono tries to make out that everything he does is out of the goodness of his heart. I remember him on the Brit awards a few years ago going on about third world debt, and how only x-amount of millions were needed to be raised ( the amount he wanted to raise would have been spare change to him ). But no, he wanted the British public to put hands in pockets while he stood on a stage with a bunch of arse-lickers applauding like mad, reaping the rewards. I have nothing against the rest of U2 but that man I cant stand, whenever I see his ugly face on the TV I have to switch off. |
GreatKingSam 20.05.2005 11:45 |
Thanks for that NTL. That is Bono summed up. All talk but no action. If he was that bothered, and if all the U2 albums were infact "political rallies" (and I quote him), then why doesn't he commision a U2 album where all the money goes to charity? Good on him for promoting charity, but I can't stand his egotistical want for gain in the popularity stakes. Charity is charity, but that is something else. |
doremi 20.05.2005 12:12 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote:Thank ou Linda. I don't get it. Whether an artist has some self serving agenda or not...at least in Bono's case, as arrogant as he may come off...he DOES help with charity, Raising World awarenes to the plights of those in need worldwide.GreatKingSam wrote: Thanks for that NTL. That is Bono summed up. All talk but no action. If he was that bothered, and if all the U2 albums were infact "political rallies" (and I quote him), then why doesn't he commision a U2 album where all the money goes to charity? Good on him for promoting charity, but I can't stand his egotistical want for gain in the popularity stakes. Charity is charity, but that is something else.For fuck sake, everybody is going on about Bono's ego... At least he's out there doing something helping; what are you doing? Sitting on your backside stuffing yourself with choclate and not raising one finger to do something about poverty!! What is Bono doing? Yeah, he might be boosting his ego, yeah, he might be getting some publicity out of it but at least he's TRYING to make the world a better place. At least he's doing something for charity...for fuck sake, have a heart. I can run a 10,000 page list of rock stars or celebrities that have huge egos too, but all they have to show for it is their fleet of cars, fancy mansions and trashed hotel rooms, and summons from the taxman for trrying to get out of paying their taxes and bills. Who cares if Bono IS or is not a braggart or has an ego, or tries to plug his own music, or get press... ...the end result....is he IS helping people though. And THAT is all that matters and what counts. |
bitesthedust 20.05.2005 12:38 |
Bobby_brown wrote:So playing in Sun City and raising awareness to the people of Soweto etc. doesn't count then? Or is it just because they were ridiculed for touring there?GreatKingSam wrote: The difference is, Brian wouldn't use the publicity from it to further his career. Everything Bono does is always so public etc Like when Eric Clapton, Bri etc met the Queen recently. If that was Bono, by lord he would have used that to talk about his poliical views - Brian just stayed out the way and was just happy to be there. I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really.At least Bono uses his "big ego" to help. How did our Freddie used his big ego? i´ve said this once and i´m going to say it again: In what charity is concerned Queen are not the best example of it. They only started doing REAL CHARITY after Freddie´s dead (I don´t consider the fact of play a big event like LIVE AID real charity)- While they where a four piece band they have donne NOTHING to put something like LIVE AID or the TRIBUTE in action. And they could have donne such beautifull things. I mean they were big in countries where people live miserabilly and they´ve donne nothing to bring awareness of it to the world. But still, it appears that there are fans that really believe that Queen are angels living among us -SINNERS. Take care |
Bobby_brown 20.05.2005 15:40 |
bitesthedust wrote:Do you really believe in that? That bring awareness of the apartheid was their main reason?Bobby_brown wrote:So playing in Sun City and raising awareness to the people of Soweto etc. doesn't count then? Or is it just because they were ridiculed for touring there?GreatKingSam wrote: The difference is, Brian wouldn't use the publicity from it to further his career. Everything Bono does is always so public etc Like when Eric Clapton, Bri etc met the Queen recently. If that was Bono, by lord he would have used that to talk about his poliical views - Brian just stayed out the way and was just happy to be there. I've told this tale before on this board, but a couple of years back, Bono did a big old press conference about how everyone should donate money to the people of Africa etc, and about thirty minutes after that, he spent about £10,000 in a restaurant nearby. Says it all really.At least Bono uses his "big ego" to help. How did our Freddie used his big ego? i´ve said this once and i´m going to say it again: In what charity is concerned Queen are not the best example of it. They only started doing REAL CHARITY after Freddie´s dead (I don´t consider the fact of play a big event like LIVE AID real charity)- While they where a four piece band they have donne NOTHING to put something like LIVE AID or the TRIBUTE in action. And they could have donne such beautifull things. I mean they were big in countries where people live miserabilly and they´ve donne nothing to bring awareness of it to the world. But still, it appears that there are fans that really believe that Queen are angels living among us -SINNERS. Take care Don´t get me wrong, You can believe in what you want if thats makes you feel better. The thing is they were just there to play in a middle of a regular tour. Nothing more, nothing less. It was their decision not to be a political Band and i respect that. But can you imagine the world if everyone took that decision?- How would it be? I mean, of course they have good hearts, and so have you, and me, and everybody, but to stay at home and feel pitty don´t change the course of things. The world is in such a situation that we need thousands of Bono´s and Gueldof´s. Those guy´s are a pain in the ass for polititions and i like that. If you watch the BBC Story of Ethiopia at the beggining of the Live Aid DVD you´ll notice that ther´s no ego about trying to do something to help!! What pisses me of is that it has to be a musician to do that (and not the most famous one!!). Do you know what were polititions and big stars doing?- They were feeling pitty. Nothing more, nothing less. Now lets talk about Bono. Why is he so activelly involved in politics?- Does anyone of you knows what was the BLOODY SUNDAY in Ireland? I would like someone to answer what was the BLOODY SUNDAY, and after that i would like you to think what more is needed for a person, who lives that day closelly, to be politically involved with all his strenghts. Take care |
GreatKingSam 20.05.2005 19:17 |
Obviously, therefore, you have deduced from the fact that - as I critcise Bono's alterior motives regarding charity, it means I do fuck all but eat chocolate all day. I'm glad we're grown ups. |
Bobby_brown 21.05.2005 09:53 |
GreatKingSam wrote: Obviously, therefore, you have deduced from the fact that - as I critcise Bono's alterior motives regarding charity, it means I do fuck all but eat chocolate all day. I'm glad we're grown ups.I never said that. I just don´t see a point of saying that Queen have allways the best intentions. And i don´t understand why it bothers you so much the fact that Bono has success doing charity. Thats not his fault, the point his - whether you like it or not- he´s one of the most charismatic rock artists of the present, and people do listen to what he has to say, and believe me - He says a lot! I don´t have any U2 album so i´m not really a fan, but i do apreciate his work outside music business. Take care |
GreatKingSam 22.05.2005 05:52 |
I was actually talking about Linda's charming topic regarding everyone who doesn't do anything for charity and just sits at home all day eating chocolate, since she clearly knows us all so well. And if you look back through what I have said, never have I stated that "Queen always have the best intentions". I just hate to see people in my opinion, whether they raise money for charity or not, using it to their selfish advantage. Surely charity is supposed to be a selfless action? |
doremi 26.05.2005 18:18 |
Today's Official Confirmation from Bob Geldof. "After weeks of Bob Geldof adamantly denying swirling press rumors and speculation of a 2nd Live Aid type music benefit, today Geldof officially confirmed plans for yet another major International star studded music benefit extravaganza. The event will be held most likely the first week of July 2005, to raise worldwide global awareness to find and enact solid resolutions to eradicate world poverty, specifically of that, in Africa, to coincide with the timing of the historic G8 Summit discussing world poverty in Scotland July 6-8, 2005. The as yet unnamed event is being possibly touted as being called Live 8. Speaking at this year's 50th 2005 Ivor Novello Songwriting Awards in London, where Geldof and his Band Aid 20 co-organizer Midge Ure were honored with the 2004 Best Selling UK Single Award for "Do They Know It's Christmas", Geldof insists that this is not a 2nd Live Aid, but it is a major International music benefit concert planned and developed in the same spirited vein, co-organized with Live Aid co-founder and Geldof's longtime friend, musician Midge Ure of Ultravox. On Tuesday May 31, Geldof and Ure are expected to confirm details of the charity concert for which an International media press conference has been organized for the two musicians and artist activists in London. Geldof noted that "What started 20 years ago is coming to a political point in a few weeks. There's more than a chance that the boys and girls with guitars will finally get to turn the world around on its axis. What we plan to do in the next five weeks is seriously, properly, historically, politically important." According to Sting, who was also on hand at the Novello Awards, and who is already confirmed as one of the headlining stars to perform, "Bob called me up and said I was doing it. He doesn't ask you, he tells you." Below are today's press release announcements from sources below: link link link link Copyright May 26, 2005 Arlene R. Weiss from my blog |