QueenZone discussion #519295
The Houston 1977 video
| usher 25.04.2005 22:19 |
How many copies of this rare footage is really out there!!! Because as I have heard other people have classified it as a promo video plus fact being it was the greatest performance queen ever did that might the subject. but to get to the basic point has anyone in this entire forum poses a this video or know were it can be obtained the 45 minute version. I know this sounds like a request but I just want to know how many copies exist and if possible were I can get one for any price if nessecary. Thank You Kazama |
| djaef 26.04.2005 06:59 |
Mr. X wrote: I got the complete 2CD of the showAnd what would it take, Mr X, for you to share that? Quite a lot I would presume... |
| Erin 26.04.2005 09:05 |
blah, blah, blah..I hate it when people brag about what they have that they won't share.. |
| Adam Baboolal 26.04.2005 10:02 |
I think this show has a mythos about it now. I've seen some bits and and heard most of it. It's ok, but the absolute best performance they ever had? Nah... Weird how no-one is sharing the entire thing. Peace, Adam. |
| Erin 26.04.2005 10:04 |
Wish it would be an officially released DVD...ha ha..:-S |
| Fenderek 26.04.2005 10:11 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: It's ok, but the absolute best performance they ever had? Nah...Exactly It's good, but not that good... |
| Mr Fred 26.04.2005 10:21 |
I have the 2 CD audio version too, and it's IMO not even close to be called the best gig ever. Even though maybe 4-5 songs are very very good. It's so overrated because so few have it. |
| Fenderek 26.04.2005 10:56 |
Mr. X wrote: No, I think the show is one of the best. So pure, I hope your one is in excellent quality. I don't give a flying fuck wether people do believe or don't wether I got it.Now it's suspicious, because no-one said anything about you not having it... Hmmmm :S Anyway, the gig is a bit overrated- it's really great- Fred's voice is in really awesome shape!- but it's defintely not their best performance. That's all. I absolutely agree that the whole "myth" is because of how rare the gig is... Or was? More and more ppl seem to have it... Anyway- are we talking here video or audio? I thought the guy who started it was asking about video... Mr. X wrote: So pure, so great, I hope your one is in excellent quality, perhaps that might be the problem, since mine is remasterd and sounds great.No dear, it's perfect- that's not a problem. Stop braging about it... Complexes? |
| Erin 26.04.2005 10:58 |
Yeah..the "rarer" it is, the more excellent the gig. However..Houston is a fantastic show. After watching the video, I really don't understand why it couldn't be released.. |
| Fenderek 26.04.2005 11:03 |
Erin wrote: YHouston is a fantastic show. After watching the video, I really don't understand why it couldn't be released..Of course it is fantastic and it SHOULD be released. But the whole "myth" is just it- a myth |
| Erin 26.04.2005 11:09 |
Well, if it's a myth that the audio is still rare, I'll take a copy. There's a nice shiny quarter in it for ya..har har. |
| usher 26.04.2005 11:15 |
Does anyone think that brian may, may not even have this gig but just the fragments that were released on rare live because if such a rare gig he would have released it by because look how many people request it. |
| deleted user 26.04.2005 11:22 |
Mr. X wrote: since mine is remasterd and sounds great.Are you just trying to make us jealous? ;P |
| Benn 26.04.2005 12:07 |
Another case of someone purporting to have something that they really don't have. And when they make statements like that, they generally shoot themselves in the foot like this Mr X has done here. Makes you feel sad for them really....... |
| Knute 26.04.2005 12:41 |
I have a copy. Brian dropped it off when he came over for his guitar lesson. |
| wstüssyb 26.04.2005 16:29 |
Mr X. posted: To Erin: Getta live. ? |
| The Fairy King 26.04.2005 16:54 |
liar, liar pants on fire! |
| usher 26.04.2005 17:04 |
maybe one day it will be torrented on this site hopefully!!!!!!!. But until then let's keep ourselves at our throat's for the video have funn!!!!!! Kazama |
| Haystacks Calhoun 26.04.2005 17:30 |
Mr. X wrote: No, I think the show is one of the best. So pure, so great, I hope your one is in excellent quality, perhaps that might be the problem, since mine is remasterd and sounds great. I don't give a flying fuck wether people do believe or don't wether I got it. BTW, I would really love to share it, really I would love to. But the person from who I tradet it with just doesn't allow me. And if I would the people who also took a lot of efforts to get it will hate me. Sorry you guys untill I get the permission I can't share it.You, sir, are a giant Dildo. Haystacks out. |
| Erin 26.04.2005 22:09 |
wstüssyb wrote: Mr X. posted: To Erin: Getta live. ?I'll second that question mark, William. |
| Saint Jiub 27.04.2005 00:01 |
I saw Houston 77 at the Breakthru conventions, and I see no reason why it can't be released. I think it is an essential concert to have (but unfortunately I do not). I recall Liar being unique with a brief quite guitar interlude after Roger's percussuion opening. |
| djaef 27.04.2005 00:06 |
Erin wrote:I think he was saying 'Get a life!'wstüssyb wrote: Mr X. posted: To Erin: Getta live. ?I'll second that question mark, William. |
| riku_queencdr 27.04.2005 02:00 |
Why would even bother to mention here that you have it if you are not going to share it with others?? It sounds a "bit" like bragging to me.... |
| Benn 27.04.2005 04:39 |
Mr. X. Can you please do us all a HUGE favour? Stop posting in English until you have at least some grasp of the language - what you are writing here is nothing more than unintelligible bullshit. And that from someone who is CLEARLY **FULL** of shit. You're far better off posting in your native language (probably a derivitive of "Chimpanzee".....) and then letting us decipher the contents of your posts if we feel the need to. Which, frankly, I have a hard time believing anyone will...... In the same way that no one believes your "claim". |
| goinback 27.04.2005 04:41 |
You can at least get the fast version of WWRY from Houston 77 on the Greatest Video Hits DVD. (As I recall it's not as exciting as some of the '79 performances...Freddie doesn't run around a whole lot, and the vocals aren't the best. Not bad though.) The top and bottom aren't even cut off :) |
| Benn 27.04.2005 07:00 |
Houston '77 is "poor" in comparison to Earls Court. Freddie's banter with the audience is far wittier than at any time during the Houston show - at that time, Queen were berated in the UK press, where as the US papers generally regarded them with reverence and respect. At one point during the Houston show, there's a shot of Brian and Freddie between songs where they look throroughly bored with the whole thing (and by the way) that's NOT in the standard boot version..... |
| Lisser 27.04.2005 09:17 |
Fair enough Thijs. |
| Erin 27.04.2005 09:24 |
djaef wrote:Naaaaaww....reeeally? ;-)Erin wrote:I think he was saying 'Get a life!'wstüssyb wrote: Mr X. posted: To Erin: Getta live. ?I'll second that question mark, William. *sarcasm* |
| Crazy LittleThing 27.04.2005 10:17 |
Knute wrote: I have a copy. Brian dropped it off when he came over for his guitar lesson.Ha! Good one, Knute! |
| NTL 27.04.2005 10:26 |
I have never seen or heard the complete Houston performace, but could somebody please tell me where the "problems with Freddies piano mic" are, as this was Jim Beach's excuse for not giving it a release. Also if he is telling the truth was it the actual Piano mic or the Piano Vocal mic ?, either way I am sure it could be fixed. |
| Rick 27.04.2005 10:40 |
There are no problems with the mic of Freddie during the Houston concert. That's rubbish. Earls Court on the contrary has them. |
| Benn 27.04.2005 11:01 |
the_hero, If you notice (and if you had bothered to read my post properly), I didn't EVER refer to the fact that *EVERYONE* should only post in English. Like you, I am sick and tired of reading the crap that some people come out with in a language that they do not understand well enough to have a strong opinion in. I deliberately choose not to post to foreign language websites because I would either be misunderstood or *get myself into trouble* on a point of fact that I was trying to back up. Mr. X is making some incredibly unintelligible points in unintelligible language - therefore, he is opening himself up to derision and ridicule. Same as I would be if I were to post in pidgeon Dutch, German or Flemmish for example. Do not pretend to think that I am xenophobic in any way (as you have so clearly demonstrated that you are in your response to me) - I merely offered advice that Mr. X can either choose to accept or ignore as he feels appropriate. **So far**, he has chosen to accept it as being "helpful" by not re-posting to his own thread...... Go figure. |
| Lisser 27.04.2005 11:53 |
the_hero wrote:Yes I am very lucky to know you and I happen to like the swearing!!! You KNOW me!!! hahahahahhaa!!!!!Lisser wrote: Fair enough Thijs.Thank you, sorry for the swearing, it just annoys me. You know me :P |
| Mr Fred 27.04.2005 11:55 |
The whole thing is taking a big bad turn here. I have listened to the whole houston 77 gig. I gave it, in perfect quality, so anyone with anything rare can mail me. But too the thing, the show isn't that great allover if you compare too other shows from the same tour. You guys must have listened to very few gigs. But after heard about 100 shows, I can say that there are a lot of better shows then Houston, even if LIAR are very good. And you guys who think that earls court is so good, forget it. Many shows are far better, even on that tour. But as many people just have listened to the common shows I understand their oppinion. |
| HDvorak 27.04.2005 13:09 |
How does the video quality compare to the Zep Houston 77 vid? |
| usher 27.04.2005 15:41 |
Well here's an answer because queen is queen and zeppelin is zeppelin see the difference now and what is the discussion about. But still fair question. |
| yamamamia 27.04.2005 18:01 |
I saw that same show in Ft.Worth Dec.10th the night before. My first concert ever, and to me, it's always fun to see it at the Breakthru. Brings back chills of excitement each time. |
| usher 28.04.2005 00:01 |
If you look at the version with only twelve songs why is sheer heart attack missing it appears on the rare live dvd so why not on the audio even if the show is not complete. |
| Liquid Scream 28.04.2005 00:11 |
Fort Worth was also filmed as a warm up for Houston. |
| Rick 28.04.2005 02:42 |
Mr Fred wrote: The whole thing is taking a big bad turn here. I have listened to the whole houston 77 gig. I gave it, in perfect quality, so anyone with anything rare can mail me. But too the thing, the show isn't that great allover if you compare too other shows from the same tour. You guys must have listened to very few gigs. But after heard about 100 shows, I can say that there are a lot of better shows then Houston, even if LIAR are very good. And you guys who think that earls court is so good, forget it. Many shows are far better, even on that tour. But as many people just have listened to the common shows I understand their oppinion.Well, you're right. But I think the NOTW-tour was Queen's best tour in the seventies. They were in great shape. And Houston is the highlight of the American tour, not only of its rarity, but also the show itself was really great. Very good performances of the new songs at that time, I mean listen to My Melancholy Blues. And yes, there are also other good shows of that tour, both New York nights are very good aswell. |
| goinback 28.04.2005 03:50 |
Does the Houston footage have good video of the crown rising up at the beginning? They cut that off the Greatest Video Hits DVD, so I'm wondering if there was a problem with it (they put a still image of it at the end though).... |
| YourValentine 28.04.2005 05:32 |
I saw Houston on the Dutch convention and I was disappointed by the picture quality because I expected the fan club has a good copy. The video is full of stripes from bad NTSC to PAL conversion and the only colour in it is green. Apart from the bad picture quality the concert is oddly un-live because you never see and hardly ever hear anything of the audience. It looks like they are playing in an empty hall. Having said that I thought the video is great. Amazing set list and great performance. Houston is certainly worth an official release and I hope it will happen some day. I would not want to have to choose between EC and Houston, both are great and hopefully come out some day. |
| Benn 28.04.2005 06:28 |
The full film is EXACTLY the same quality - it was filmed by the same team of cameramen - I know for certain because a friend of mine that lives in California was one of that team and he retained a copy of the complete show for his personal use - he was on the camera that was used to shoot Brian's side of the stage and also has the single camera footage of Brian from that night. I've been treated to evenings at his house to view it all and it's bloody good stuff, but certainly not as good IMO as Earls Court - the colour is not quite as sharp either. It's amazing the wealth of footage he kept - some great bands. |
| YourValentine 28.04.2005 07:31 |
I suppose the original tape is okay, it's just that the Fan Club has a very badly converted PAL copy. |
| Benn 28.04.2005 09:29 |
The fan club has a first generation bootleg. QPL on the other hand owns the master tapes. BIG distinction between the two. |
| YourValentine 28.04.2005 09:53 |
No, it's not a bootleg - it's a copy of the professionally filmed concert but it's a badly converted copy. A bootleg would be an illegally filmed audience video. |
| Benn 28.04.2005 12:15 |
So, the copy I have of the single camera footage from the show isn't a bootleg? Or the copy of The Who's professionally shot show at The Summit in '75 isn't a bootleg? Or their professionally shot performances at Detroit 2000, Jones Beach 2000 etc.......? They have a "copy" of the edited pro-shot show. |
| YourValentine 28.04.2005 12:46 |
The copy I saw on the convention was not shot with a single camera. It was a professionally filmed concert with various cameras used and also professionally cut. I never heard about this single camera version you are talking about. |
| HDvorak 28.04.2005 13:18 |
Benn wrote: The full film is EXACTLY the same quality - it was filmed by the same team of cameramen - I know for certain because a friend of mine that lives in California was one of that team and he retained a copy of the complete show for his personal use - he was on the camera that was used to shoot Brian's side of the stage and also has the single camera footage of Brian from that night. I've been treated to evenings at his house to view it all and it's bloody good stuff, but certainly not as good IMO as Earls Court - the colour is not quite as sharp either. It's amazing the wealth of footage he kept - some great bands.Any chance of listing some of those other bands he filmed, which reside in his private archives? |
| chewing gum bum 28.04.2005 14:24 |
What Benn is trying to say is that the footage his friend shot on that night from Brians' side of the stage was edited in later with the other camera angles from that night. THis would be interesting footage to see. My cousin Joe was their lighting designer for this tour and the Jazz tour. He designed the crown along with Stickells help. I try and find any footage of these tours and send them to him. He'd love the Houston footage if it ever gets released. |
| QueenZeppelin 28.04.2005 15:44 |
Out of curiousity, to those who own the videos and/or audio (or who have seen them)--how responsive is the crowd to Queen? I know that America was (2nd only to Canada) the least responsive country to their songs, especially when it came to singing along. They'd join in for BoRhap, and WWRY/WATC, nothing else, really. But, yeat again, in 1977 Queen were at their zenith in America, and Texans are usually responsive (and passionate) about anything they are interested in. Just curious. |
| usher 28.04.2005 21:34 |
I think I can answer this question after night at the opera came out queen stil had it royal feedback during 1977 and people still were in that phase of the album. |
| usher 28.04.2005 21:40 |
As a question for people that have the show does Freddie change from his harliquin leotard in to his black one after Rhapsody. |
| Liquid Scream 28.04.2005 22:59 |
QueenZeppelin - You know that America was (2nd only to Canada) the least responsive country to their songs, especially when it came to singing along. I am guessing you base your study on the classic We Will Rock You concert. Or maybe you were witness to all American and Canadian Queen shows. |
| Benn 29.04.2005 08:46 |
Freddie changes leotard during the operatic section. Other bands fimed during that period were all the classic groups really: The Stones The Who Queen Zeppelin Thin Lizzy Bad Company The Eagles And the archive goes back to something like '73 when he first started filming - it's a truly awesome sight being amongst all those great performances.... |
| chewing gum bum 29.04.2005 08:51 |
Don't forget KISS Benn. They were filmed over two nights in September of 77 in Houston as well. Good shows. |
| Benn 29.04.2005 08:57 |
I never really cared for KISS - I would imagine that they were great to see live, but other than that, there was never really any substance to their music...... "Each to their own sewerage" |
| HDvorak 29.04.2005 09:18 |
Benn thanks for the reply. Would you mind e-mailing me off list? I have some questions. Thanks, HD |
| usher 29.04.2005 15:25 |
I was not witeness to those concerts but I have the entire collection of those live recordings so so I can hear for myself that america responded in 1977 the way they did. it also depends on the number of recordings you have |
| inu-liger 29.04.2005 16:59 |
QueenZeppelin wrote: I know that America was (2nd only to Canada) the least responsive country to their songs, especially when it came to singing along.I take offense to that comment about Canada. Not ALL Canadians are like that in concerts. Queen should've filmed WWRY somewhere in Ontario or one of the Western provinces (Alberta calling...), because the Quebeckers (*or the people in the province of Quebec, where Montreal is) ruin a lot of things for the rest of us Canadians in a lot of ways, especially image-wise. (But what do you expect for a province that wants nothing to do with Canada?) Mind you, not ALL Quebeckers are all bad; I've met a few of them last week who came to play with my school's concert band (it was a blast). Of course, these people were from a more English region of Quebec, because most of Quebec is mainly French (language and culture-wise). |
| Liquid Scream 29.04.2005 18:51 |
Actually, Montreal has one of the best concert audiences. Much better than any of the crowds I've witnessed in Ontario. Then again I have really only gone to shows in Toronto and Ottawa. People taking all these shots at Montreal probably haven't even been to a show there! The We Will Rock You audience was lame for some reason but the same can't be said for the Jazz and Hot Space shows. |
| usher 29.04.2005 22:00 |
Which tracks are on the 40 minute video just curious !!!!!? for people who have seen it. |
| Bob The Shrek 30.04.2005 03:30 |
Knute wrote: I have a copy. Brian dropped it off when he came over for his guitar lesson.AH, I always wondered who it was for, when he asked me to burn a copy for him ;-) |
| goinback 30.04.2005 04:59 |
I think the WWRY audience was lame just because they (and the band) were frustrated with how they were being treated by the camera crew before the show. Obviously they didn't know the words to Love Of My Life either, but they must have liked Queen originally or wouldn't have gone to the show :) |
| QueenZeppelin 30.04.2005 13:37 |
Liquid Scream wrote: I am guessing you base your study on the classic We Will Rock You concert. Or maybe you were witness to all American and Canadian Queen shows.No, I'm not. I'm not saying Americans and Canadians were not responsive to Queen. They quite got into the show. But compare them to the responses of fans in Britain, The Netherlands, most of the rest of Europe, South America, and Japan. It's not quite the same. Europe, S. America, and Japan, for example, almost all the time, could sing along to Love Of My Life. Almost the ENTIRE CROWD. It was hard to pull off such a mass singalong for a non-single track in the US or Canada. And, like I said in my post, in 1977 Queen were pretty big in America, and actually could pack a big stadium. That's why I asked my question. Which I will ask again, hoping it will we be answered by a more intelligent and less combative poster (and one who actually has the audio/video to this): How responsive was the Houston 1977 audience to Queen? How much did they get into it? |
| usher 30.04.2005 19:17 |
is we will rock you on the magic yaers vol 2 from houston complete along with we are the champions or are they just fragments cut off. along with death on two legs from the champions documentary from the same show. |
| usher 30.04.2005 19:22 |
when and were would the next queen convention be and where if possible and if they will be showing this video there. |
| Saint Jiub 01.05.2005 00:27 |
link Cleveland august 19-21 |
| Negative Creep 01.05.2005 11:20 |
Never seen the full show.. .but the WWRY clip on GVH1 doesn't particularly excite me. First of all, it looks like it was shot in widescreen but has been stretched up for fullscreen, and theres like a mask or clouding over the whole image. |
| goinback 01.05.2005 18:23 |
Yeah there is a slight aspect ratio problem with it...it looks like they're all a little skinnier than they should be. Did Freddie have ramps at the side of the stage during that tour? Usually he goes up on both of them during WWRY but on Houston he doesn't.... |
| usher 01.05.2005 19:42 |
the ramps were there only for the jazz tour news of the world tour was still recovering from the day at the races stage setting in 1977. |
| Rick 02.05.2005 04:07 |
I like the stage of Houston. It's not that big and the audience is really close to the stage which is nice, it has a very warm atmosphere. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 02.05.2005 15:58 |
Benn wrote: Freddie changes leotard during the operatic section. Other bands fimed during that period were all the classic groups really: The Stones The Who Queen Zeppelin Thin Lizzy Bad Company The Eagles And the archive goes back to something like '73 when he first started filming - it's a truly awesome sight being amongst all those great performances....Unfortunately, none of Pink Floyd's 1975 and 1977 tours were filmed although shoddy 8mm film of Floyd on the 1975 and 1977 tours have emerged. |
| HDvorak 02.05.2005 16:24 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Has this been confirmed? I can't believe that Floyd didn't want to document such mind blowing spectacles.Benn wrote: Freddie changes leotard during the operatic section. Other bands fimed during that period were all the classic groups really: The Stones The Who Queen Zeppelin Thin Lizzy Bad Company The Eagles And the archive goes back to something like '73 when he first started filming - it's a truly awesome sight being amongst all those great performances....Unfortunately, none of Pink Floyd's 1975 and 1977 tours were filmed although shoddy 8mm film of Floyd on the 1975 and 1977 tours have emerged. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 02.05.2005 23:54 |
HDvorak wrote:The only PF tours filmed after Pompeii in 1971 were the band's June, 1972 Brighton Dome performance which pieces appear on the making of The Dark Side of the Moon Classic Albums DVD and some were in concert videos like Set the Controls was in a concert film and Careful With That Axe from the same show appeared in a concert video. Nick Mason and David Gilmour stated regret in not filming a 1973 or 1974 or 1975 or 1977 show and there is no filmed document of that era. The band did not film shows again until the 1980 The Wall shows in New York and London. Then the 1981 shows were filmed and Roger Waters has them in his possession and is reluctant to legally release them although they would be by now had if Gilmour had it his way.NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Has this been confirmed? I can't believe that Floyd didn't want to document such mind blowing spectacles.Benn wrote: Freddie changes leotard during the operatic section. Other bands fimed during that period were all the classic groups really: The Stones The Who Queen Zeppelin Thin Lizzy Bad Company The Eagles And the archive goes back to something like '73 when he first started filming - it's a truly awesome sight being amongst all those great performances....Unfortunately, none of Pink Floyd's 1975 and 1977 tours were filmed although shoddy 8mm film of Floyd on the 1975 and 1977 tours have emerged. |
| HDvorak 03.05.2005 00:37 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Funny how much early stuff was filmed. See Harvested 3 DVD Pink Floyd Video Anthology. Can't believe that a closed circuit vid didn't sneak it's way thru.HDvorak wrote:The only PF tours filmed after Pompeii in 1971 were the band's June, 1972 Brighton Dome performance which pieces appear on the making of The Dark Side of the Moon Classic Albums DVD and some were in concert videos like Set the Controls was in a concert film and Careful With That Axe from the same show appeared in a concert video. Nick Mason and David Gilmour stated regret in not filming a 1973 or 1974 or 1975 or 1977 show and there is no filmed document of that era. The band did not film shows again until the 1980 The Wall shows in New York and London. Then the 1981 shows were filmed and Roger Waters has them in his possession and is reluctant to legally release them although they would be by now had if Gilmour had it his way.NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Has this been confirmed? I can't believe that Floyd didn't want to document such mind blowing spectacles.Benn wrote: Freddie changes leotard during the operatic section. Other bands fimed during that period were all the classic groups really: The Stones The Who Queen Zeppelin Thin Lizzy Bad Company The Eagles And the archive goes back to something like '73 when he first started filming - it's a truly awesome sight being amongst all those great performances....Unfortunately, none of Pink Floyd's 1975 and 1977 tours were filmed although shoddy 8mm film of Floyd on the 1975 and 1977 tours have emerged. We're lucky that for Queen, starting 1974, every year has a filmed concert. |
| Mariam 03.05.2005 03:37 |
And what about change? I ask anybody who can copy Houston 77 video and change it for many otherQueen rarities |
| Tero 03.05.2005 06:02 |
Negative Creep wrote: Never seen the full show.. .but the WWRY clip on GVH1 doesn't particularly excite me. First of all, it looks like it was shot in widescreen but has been stretched up for fullscreen,Even without seeing the original footage I'm a 100% sure that is yet another aspect ratio fuck up by QP on the Greatest Video Hits -series... |
| usher 04.05.2005 23:06 |
at the queen conventions who usually brings the houston video to be viewed. |
| HDvorak 04.05.2005 23:47 |
usher wrote: at the queen conventions who usually brings the houston video to be viewed.Deaky! :) |
| usher 05.05.2005 08:34 |
really deacon well what are the chances of that. |
| Mariam 06.05.2005 09:37 |
And who can help me? I want this video. I can change for any other video. ameshaspentas2000@yahoo.co.uk |
| Rick 06.05.2005 09:47 |
I've just mailed you, Mariam :-). |
| usher 06.05.2005 15:18 |
same here I want this video like water if you can barter with it that would be a real help because I will pay $100.00 to and etc. email me at nestorowicz@netzero.com. |
| usher 06.05.2005 23:48 |
That is good to know Mr.X and thanks for the gesture anyway. |
| usher 06.05.2005 23:51 |
email me when you do get the video and let me know where it resides if it is not to much trouble. Thank you |
| goinback 09.05.2005 01:25 |
HDvorak: Pink Floyd didn't film shows in the mid-to-late '70s because they had sort of an underground anti-media attitude at the time (the opposite of Queen ;) It's ironic that they pioneered multimedia in their shows but didn't record them. Roger hasn't wanted the Wall shows released because he doesn't think the tapes do the show justice. I agree with him after seeing bootlegs...the film projections flicker, etc. They could probably fix some of that with computers these days though I bet.... |
| NOTWMEDDLE 10.05.2005 15:05 |
goinback wrote: HDvorak: Pink Floyd didn't film shows in the mid-to-late '70s because they had sort of an underground anti-media attitude at the time (the opposite of Queen ;) It's ironic that they pioneered multimedia in their shows but didn't record them. Roger hasn't wanted the Wall shows released because he doesn't think the tapes do the show justice. I agree with him after seeing bootlegs...the film projections flicker, etc. They could probably fix some of that with computers these days though I bet....David Gilmour on the other hand wanted The Wall concert films released in 2000. He stated if he possession of the films, he would clean it up and have it out. Also, PF were badly scorned by the American press so PF refused to talk to the US media and their press agent Gary Stromberg would respond to requests for interviews and photos with a flat out "NO" |
| HDvorak 10.05.2005 21:59 |
goinback wrote: HDvorak: Pink Floyd didn't film shows in the mid-to-late '70s because they had sort of an underground anti-media attitude at the time (the opposite of Queen ;) It's ironic that they pioneered multimedia in their shows but didn't record them. Roger hasn't wanted the Wall shows released because he doesn't think the tapes do the show justice. I agree with him after seeing bootlegs...the film projections flicker, etc. They could probably fix some of that with computers these days though I bet....Although I have a dozen or so Floyd boots, I'm not familiar with the hardcore collecting scene and what's rumoured to be out there. Despite not hiring a professional film crew to document a show, there could be existing video from venues which employed closed circuit TV systems. The Houston Summit, Landover Capital Center, Chicago Stadium, Atlanta Omni, as well as other venues, all had these facilities in the mid/late 70s. There is a quite a bit of footage from the usual 70s classic rockers which reside in private collections. |
| Jjeroen 11.05.2005 16:07 |
Mr. X wrote: I will do everything in my power to get it Usher, and as soon as I got this DVD I'll immediatly share it, let it be putted on in the Quen hub. And for people who haven't got enough shows to get in the hub I'll open a site with a huge folder. Come on let's share-sorry for the Dutch language - this is between him and me- (edited)??? En Rotterdam 79, Argentinie 81 1e show, Rotterdam 86, Boston 77, Saarbrucken etc. ook zeker?? Toch goed dat ik de moeite heb genomen om me eens helemaal door deze belachelijke threat heen te lezen... Ik denk dat er iets niet doorgaat, kerel! Sorry, ik heb de laatste tijd al teveel goed ruilmateriaal waardeloos zien worden. |
| YourValentine 11.05.2005 16:29 |
Spot on, Jeroen, thanks:) |
| wstüssyb 11.05.2005 16:34 |
Hey I get a cookie to for thinking that! |
| Jamie74 12.05.2005 07:04 |
jeroen wrote: -sorry for the Dutch language - this is between him and me-If this is between you and him, then why post it here? |
| Jjeroen 12.05.2005 07:58 |
Don't pass judgement on something you don't know anything about, Hero. There has been contact between him and me outside of Queenzone - my remarks are about THAT in relationship to something he said in here. And NO I am NOT trading the Houston video and I never intended to do so. I don't HAVE the video; end of discussion. The thing was subject of our private-contact though. I never 'requested' anything. Mr X requested ME some stuff privately and this specific remark inhere put things we discussed privately in a different daylight. And besides: you are his buddy, so sure you know what has been going on between him and me. I refuse to be used for an action that would kill yet another part of the traderscommunity. A pitty also for younger people or fans that are just getting into trading. This whole sharing-discussion makes it more difficult for them to get higher up the ladder, cause serious traders are reluctend to share rare stuff with 'strangers'. This rediciolous discussion about trading versus sharing should come to an end about now. Instead of bringing them together, it is only making them drift further apart. Realy a shame that the people that want all the sharing so much 'don't seem to understand that. Traders will now only remain in their familiar circle of other traders which they know can be trusted becasue they've kown eachother for years. Whoever wants extremely RARE stuff: invest 15 years of your life, like all 'elite traders', as you people tend to call us, have done too. Some things will NEVER EVER appear online. Sorry for defending my sport. I'm sick and tired of these wankers that DEMAND for everything someone has to be public property. Enough has been said in various threats over the past months and if some people still refuse to understand why not everything should be put online, tough luck. How much longer before being called an asshole because I don't share my paycheck!? |
| Jjeroen 12.05.2005 08:27 |
jeroen wrote: Don't pass judgement on something you don't know anything about, Hero. There has been contact between him and me outside of Queenzone - my remarks are about THAT in relationship to something he said in here. And NO I am NOT trading the Houston video and I never intended to. actually you're the one making the judgements cause never involved Dennis in my question, he made a stupid mistake... but don't accuse me for doing the same ))) ================================ Read my post - I have no problems with you whatsoever and I prefer to keep it that way. No offence to you. What I was trying to say is, that my remark was to Mr X and he is the only one that for 100% knows what I mean by that post. As has been proven by you immediately after that. I do not - I repeat - I DO NOT HAVE THE HOUSTON VIDEO! |
| Benn 12.05.2005 09:09 |
>Whoever wants extremely RARE stuff: invest 15 years of your life, like all 'elite traders', as you people tend to call us, have done too. Some things will NEVER EVER appear online. This is the crux of the matter; jealousy. There is so much stuff out here which is in private collections and traded between very few people. Everyone else then thinks that they should be able to have it and, when confronted by the question of "Why should I let you have what's taken me YEARS to get?", immediately throw accusations of greed and "hoarding". I've got all kinds fo stuff that I have received from various private trades and have been badgered endlessly to let it out into the wider collecting community. The fact is that I have either promised faithfully not to trade it out to the people that I received it from or I simply haven't received an offer of anything with similar such rarity to warrant a trade. Years of collecting and building up trading relationships have gotten me to this point and NOTHING will come along to break that trust. |
| Fenderek 12.05.2005 09:14 |
Mr X remark about SHARING Houston video the moment he'll get is nothing but a stupid populism- and after saying that openly it'll be 10 times harder for you to get it, mate... |
| Benn 12.05.2005 09:17 |
Mr X is proven to be a liar - ignore him :-) |
| Rick 12.05.2005 09:38 |
Benn wrote: Mr X is proven to be a liar - ignore him :-)He is no liar. He is a great friend of mine. He was too enthousiastic about sharing all recordings here on QueenZone. And it was stupid of him to say that he would share the Houston video as soon as he got it. I completely agree with Jeroen. |