| Atomic Dog 21.04.2005 10:39 |
I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records. |
| Mr. Scully 21.04.2005 11:01 |
I have absolutely no problem with Paul Rodgers, he's a great singer. But they should have rehearsed more, I can't believe that even with help of all the monitors with lyrics he still keeps forgetting the words. |
| Daveboy35 21.04.2005 11:03 |
Yeah totally agree with you freddie's would want him to follow his own lead and just be himself and it maybe a shock statement i'm making but i think freddie would be doing exactly what paul is doing now,but without the strutting and running around don't forget he would be 59 now if still alive. |
| IvoDutch 21.04.2005 12:59 |
Paul did a great job in Antwerp yesterday. He's a great singer and he seems like a nice guy to me. Singing all those songs is very hard - even freddie made small mistakes too, even during his best shows. I'm just very happy that they are on the road again - it has been too long! |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 21.04.2005 14:09 |
Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. |
| Daveboy35 21.04.2005 15:24 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:NO Queen with freddie ended in 1991 RIP queen without freddie rules 2005 and beyond.Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. |
| Atomic Dog 21.04.2005 16:14 |
Brenda, Great reply!!! It is hard to believe Freddie would be 59. Freddie would have pushed to change the music and make it new and fresh. Cheers to Queen 2005 and beyind! |
| TheGame 21.04.2005 16:44 |
Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don't understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don't run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don't think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59. I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i'm pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today). |
| big riff 12774 21.04.2005 17:03 |
hi all, yeah its a bit strange- imagine Freddie in his late 50s standing onstage, singing the old songs.. anyway, i think that Paul is sure doing his best and the true rock (not only Queen) fan should be right behind him.. the guy is the best singer Bri and Rog could choose. cheers, BR |
| Brianmay1975 22.04.2005 02:28 |
Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory! Besides that, The Stones are touring withoutBill Wyman, Black Sabbath are touring without Ozzy Osbourne, Deep Purple toured for decades without Ian Gillan, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page are still playing without the other two... and this could go on. Paul's voice is OK and he reaches the peak by performing WWRY, his performance is awesome... Rogers' drumming is amazing (he's in an incredibly shape), Brian's guitar playing is as good as ever (great solos, btw) and Spike does his best on keyboards. The setlist is a very good selection of songs - and I can't see why so many ppl complain about the fact the setlist doesn't change. As far as I know, the setlist for a tour is supposed to stay the same for all the gigs of that tour. It was a typical setlist for the Magic tour, one for the Hot Space tour and another one for the ANATO tour, and nobody complained :) As for Paul forgetting the lyrics, I think it's understandable. It's certainly not very easy to sing another band's songs, under the pressure of 14000 ppl in the audience. Freddie forgot the words to Bohemian Rhapsody in 1976 (Osaka, if I remeber well) and to Radio Ga Ga. Roger was completely silly in forgetting more than once the words to I'm In Love With My Car and Happiness. And Brian too, in the later years, when siniging WWRY, sang the third verse instead of the second :) All of them had bad moments throughout the years, got out of pitch, lost their key or forgot lyrics. Except for John - this guy is great, he has never forgotten any lyrics in all his life :) |
| RohemianBapsody 22.04.2005 03:32 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:Broken Record..........Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. If it wasn't for Paul Rodgers there would be no tour. |
| Oberon 22.04.2005 03:53 |
Brianmay1975 wrote: Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory!I agree Brianmay1975 wrote: Besides that, The Stones are touring withoutBill Wyman, Black Sabbath are touring without Ozzy Osbourne, Deep Purple toured for decades without Ian Gillan, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page are still playing without the other two... and this could go on. Paul's voice is OK and he reaches the peak by performing WWRY, his performance is awesome... Rogers' drumming is amazing (he's in an incredibly shape), Brian's guitar playing is as good as ever (great solos, btw) and Spike does his best on keyboards. The setlist is a very good selection of songs - and I can't see why so many ppl complain about the fact the setlist doesn't change. As far as I know, the setlist for a tour is supposed to stay the same for all the gigs of that tour. It was a typical setlist for the Magic tour, one for the Hot Space tour and another one for the ANATO tour, and nobody complained :)Although, of course there wasn't such wide spread availablity of bootlegs or downloads, or cheap travel in those days. Today fans can get to many more gigs I suppose, or can get dowloads etc so they experience more of the tour as a whole. This is probably why there's this attitude. Brianmay1975 wrote: As for Paul forgetting the lyrics, I think it's understandable. It's certainly not very easy to sing another band's songs, under the pressure of 14000 ppl in the audience. Freddie forgot the words to Bohemian Rhapsody in 1976 (Osaka, if I remeber well) and to Radio Ga Ga. Roger was completely silly in forgetting more than once the words to I'm In Love With My Car and Happiness. And Brian too, in the later years, when siniging WWRY, sang the third verse instead of the second :) All of them had bad moments throughout the years, got out of pitch, lost their key or forgot lyrics. Except for John - this guy is great, he has never forgotten any lyrics in all his life :)Yep, can't put them on too high a pedastall... |
| Oberon 22.04.2005 03:55 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:Such a lame argument. No objectivity. Personally, I don't think Brian or Roger sound that strong in their vocal performances either, but it's still enjoyable. Still a good show 'cause of the music. But I've only seen Brixton so far. Wembley and Hyde Park to go. The downloads sound like their definitely improving, so looking forward to these later gigs!Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. |
| Oberon 22.04.2005 03:57 |
Oberon wrote:And I actually think Paul is doing a good job of it in his own style. If we can't have Freddie singing, I'd rather have someone doing it differently then try to immitate. As we've seen no-one can really come close. George Michael was fantastic at the tribute, but it was his own style, but fitted to the song. That's probably as good as you'll ever get, but GM wouldn't suit the rest of the Queen material IMO. Especially the out and out rock numbers. It's not his area.Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:Such a lame argument. No objectivity. Personally, I don't think Brian or Roger sound that strong in their vocal performances either, but it's still enjoyable. Still a good show 'cause of the music. But I've only seen Brixton so far. Wembley and Hyde Park to go. The downloads sound like their definitely improving, so looking forward to these later gigs!Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. |
| Fenderek 22.04.2005 05:03 |
Brianmay1975 wrote: Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory!Great stuff, good point. |
| De Bosschenaar 22.04.2005 07:07 |
I have to say, I had some doubts at first. But I saw them in Antwerpen and I have to say: Paul is great. Ofcourse no Freddie, but also great. |
| The Mir@cle 22.04.2005 07:17 |
TheGame wrote: Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don't understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don't run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don't think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59. I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i'm pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today).And the last concerts where much better than Brixton. Brian after Anterwerpen: "I think this was better then just good??" |
| Brianmay1975 22.04.2005 09:56 |
Oberon wrote: Although, of course there wasn't such wide spread availablity of bootlegs or downloads, or cheap travel in those days. Today fans can get to many more gigs I suppose, or can get dowloads etc so they experience more of the tour as a whole. This is probably why there's this attitude.Yes that's right, but on the other hand we have to think also about how the band looks at it. It's indeed kinda difficult for a band to rehearse loads of songs, only to play them once or twice. Any other band would do the same. Besides that, if it'd be a considerable effort for Brian and Roger to permanently change around the setlist, for Paul Rodgers it'd be indeed damn hard to sing so many new songs in a short matter of time... I'm confident changes will come, but it will take time. They sound extremely fine for a band that stopped touring for 20 years. We have to consider that too, isn't it? It's likely they'll get better and better in time and they'll also get more accustomed with each other, so that they'll get working that special chemistry that'd get them to the top again. We only have to wait and be supportive... So Atomic Dog is right, let's give Paul Rodgers a break, let's trust in him for a little while, just open up our hearts and let them step inside. Maybe we'll even be surprised we like it :) Other than that, it's obvious they play with such joy of being on the road and on stage again, it's impossible not to be moved when listening to the new stuff. I say it's good for them, let them be happy one more time. Perhaps they'll find a way to make us happy too :) To Bryans Permed Poodle: Just a psychological advice. Living in the past is bad for your health. Life goes on and turning your back to it is reallly harming. I guess everybody was compelled to live in the past up until now, but now it's high time for the show to go on. It's a beautiful thing to see Queen alive again :) |
| TheGame 22.04.2005 10:34 |
The Mir@cle wrote:Totally agree, the quality is increasing for each concert, and that's great!TheGame wrote: Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don't understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don't run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don't think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59. I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i'm pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today).And the last concerts where much better than Brixton. Brian after Anterwerpen: "I think this was better then just good??" |
| james gaden 2072 22.04.2005 11:56 |
Comments like "The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP" show astounding ignorance. Paul Rodgers was an influence on Freddie and if you take the time to look back through Paul's career, he was having hits long before Queen were huge, he had a Grammy nominated solo record (which Brian was on), has sold somewhere in the region of 125 million albms, he's a gifted musician and has a voice that has spawned countless imitators. So he's going to sing the songs as Paul Rodgers, NOT as Freddie and you end up with what I think is a very pleasant situation - a concert that offers Queen hits, Bad Company hits, Free hits and material performed by Roger and Brian too, both old and new. So I think I can catagorically state Rodgers is NOT shit, or he wouldn't be a Hall Of Famer like Queen. I was stunned at how many people didn't know who Paul waqs when the tour was announced, but it's great to see people embracing his talent. And if you're one of these blinkered people who cant see past 1991 don't go to the shows. You won't be missed. JG |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 11:57 |
PAUL R KNEW WHAT HE WAS GETTING INTO WHEN HE AGREED TO TOUR WITH QUEEN. PAUL - IF IT'S TOO HOT FOR YOU - GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!! HELLO - THIS TOUR IS NOT QUEEN!!!!!!!!! FREDDIE 1991 RIP QUEEN 1991 RIP WE LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 22.04.2005 12:13 |
RohemianBapsody wrote:GoodBryans Permed Poodle wrote:Broken Record.......... If it wasn't for Paul Rodgers there would be no tour.Atomic Dog wrote: I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP. |
| james gaden 2072 22.04.2005 12:17 |
Correct, this tour is not Queen. It's Queen + Paul Rodgers. That's what it says on all the posters in big letters. Why use the Queen name? Because as Roger says, to have a big brand name and not use it makes you a mug. JG |
| k01olnug 22.04.2005 12:21 |
I agree paul rodgers is a great singer. Listen to his solo stuff, free or bad company and the singings good. Just accept that this is and will continue to be an excellent tour. |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 12:41 |
Linda of the Valley - You just confirmed what I knew all along. Ignorance is bliss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I am an "old" broad who difinetly knew Paul R when he was with Bad Co. etc. And I knew Queen when they were Queen. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 12:59 |
AND I'M NOT DONE YET: ALSO THE QUEEN PART OF QUEEN + PR IS NOT EVEN CORRECT. BRIAN,ROGER AND JOHN WOULD BE QUEEN + PR HELLO? DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE THIS OUT. |
| The Mir@cle 22.04.2005 14:17 |
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF IT'S QUEEN OR NOT... IT'S DARN GOOD AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M INTERESTED IN. SO PLEASE SHUT UP. BOTHER SOME OTHER PEOPLE INSTEAD OF US!!!! HAVE A FAMILY WITH LEECH OR SOMETHING. MARTIJN HAS SPOKEN |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 22.04.2005 15:29 |
PLEASE SOMEONE STOP THIS TOUR. NOW!!!!!!!!! |
| zaiga 22.04.2005 15:35 |
Paul is my new found Hero! The Antwerp gig was unforgettable. I'm gonna buy all the man's records now, just to piss off all you nay-sayers! LOL! |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 16:12 |
WE WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE! FREDDIE 1991 RIP QUEEN 1991 RIP QUEEN 2005 IS 1/2 QUEEN! IGNORANCE IS BLISS! |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 16:17 |
YEAH AND I WILL BE AT HOME WATCHING THE REAL QUEEN ON DVD. AND LOVING IT!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 17:00 |
I guess what has really gotten my nose of joint on this one is this current band using the name QUEEN. Brian and Roger has every right to record and tour ,etc. but as QUEEN? I think not. Seems they feel they cannot be sucessful under another name? Freddie named the band QUEEN, I believe. Maybe Brian should use the name he wanted for this current band. |
| Slightly Dazed 22.04.2005 19:26 |
Sharon G, lets say Freddie was still alive and Roger and John both retired, would you be against Freddie and Brian using the Queen name? I think not! |
| Slightly Dazed 22.04.2005 19:33 |
P.S what would Freddie have wanted? I reckon he would be all for Roger and Brian using the name Queen, because he isn't selfish, and would want Queen to live on! |
| Sharon G. 22.04.2005 21:37 |
Yes. I do have a Freddie obsession, I admit. Oh Well - On to bigger and better subjects. |
| james gaden 2072 23.04.2005 11:32 |
Linda is right - from The Miracle onwards, Queen were always noted as a four man team. Freddie died in 1991, leaving three men - Roger, Brian and John. They gave us 'Made in Heaven' which last time I checked was referred to as a Queen album. They gave us 'Rocks' with a new song 'No-One But You'. Brian and Roger were clearly the driving force on these projects. Then John decided he was going to pack it in. Well done to the guy, so he left two men behind, namely Roger and Brian. So if you want to argue technicalities, that's two thirds of Queen, unless you never bought a Queen product containing new material after 1991. Plenty of bands have continued with key members gone, and the reason they use the name is that is that sells tickets. "Queen + Paul Rodgers" on a poster will capture anybody's imagination. "Brian May, Roger Taylor and Paul Rodgers" is neither practical or carries the same drawing power. And if they used a new name we'd be waiting even longer for the tour while they did the interview circuit to make sure everybody knew who they were. Even if they called themselves 'The Three Stooges' you can bet your life underneath it would say 'featuring former members of Bad Company and Queen'. It's good marketing, so use the name! JG |
| Johnnie 23.04.2005 18:27 |
People, Queen is a brandname. If brandnames would stop existing after the founder died, we wouldn't have much left. The band was not called Freddie Mercury. Even then they would honor Freddie now that they play a lot of songs he has written/performed. Although I'm not going myself, I think they have every right to tour using the name Queen. Think about it, it's just a 5 letter word. But a word that makes a lot of people rise up and get tickets to see the guys. Believe me, "Brian May, Roger Taylor + Paul Rodgers" would not have reached as many people as it does now. You can call it misusing the name, you could also call it reaching a whole new generation, who is probably going to buy all the Queen albums afterwards. And most likely also albums that features Paul. There are also a lot of people that haven't seen Queen when Freddie was still alive. They have the chance to at least see two of their heroes perform. I'm a guy that wants to treasure the memory of seeing Queen with Freddie in the mid eighties. I don't have the urge to go now. That is my personal feeling about it. Everyone should do what they feel like doing and enjoy wholeheartedly. Expect Queensongs, played by two members of Queen and Paul Rodgers, but don't expect to be seeing and hearing Freddie! It's just as simple as that! |
| daveboy 24.04.2005 03:31 |
Leave paul alone i think he is doing a good job,ok he's not Freddie proberly never wanted to be, He has already made it on his own & doesnt need to be! he is a singer singing another bands songs. As for using the name queen well i think it there is no problem with that either,what would have happened if Paul had deicded to go on tour and taken Roger & Brian with him i bet we would have still gone and seen them. I now i would, ok we all miss Fred but come on its the best we will get now. I know i can't wait to see them again at cardiff and will be right at the front giving the band my support. LONG LIVE QUEEN & PAUL ROGERS. Just enjoy what we are left with before this is taken away from us to untimley again. |
| ryancoke 24.04.2005 04:42 |
BRENDA wrote: Yeah totally agree with you freddie's would want him to follow his own lead and just be himself and it maybe a shock statement i'm making but i think freddie would be doing exactly what paul is doing now,but without the strutting and running around don't forget he would be 59 now if still alive.On the contrary, he was in good enough shape that I KNOW he'd be strutting and running around. Freddie would still know how to put on a show! |
| deleted user 24.04.2005 04:55 |
Sharon G. wrote: YEAH AND I WILL BE AT HOME WATCHING THE REAL QUEEN ON DVD. AND LOVING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!I will be watching Queen + Paul Rodgers LIVE and loving it even more. By the way will you stop saying: Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP As you said yourself, you don't have to be a genius to work this out. So what's the point in telling us again and again? |
| Lord Blackadder 24.04.2005 08:49 |
BRENDA wrote: Yeah totally agree with you freddie's would want him to follow his own lead and just be himself and it maybe a shock statement i'm making but i think freddie would be doing exactly what paul is doing now,but without the strutting and running around don't forget he would be 59 now if still alive.How old is Mick Jagger? He still struts. I know Freddie said he wouldn't be doing it in his 60's, but you shouldn't take these things to heart. People change, they get older, but if they still have that passion, they will still perform 100%. That includes strutting et all. |
| deleted user 24.04.2005 10:33 |
Roger did say: "And Freddie isn't as old Mick Jaggers. I mean who is?!" |
| Daveboy35 24.04.2005 12:13 |
Lord Blackadder wrote:What i meant was a slower moving freddie than we've seen but still able to captivate and pull off a really good show.BRENDA wrote: Yeah totally agree with you freddie's would want him to follow his own lead and just be himself and it maybe a shock statement i'm making but i think freddie would be doing exactly what paul is doing now,but without the strutting and running around don't forget he would be 59 now if still alive.How old is Mick Jagger? He still struts. I know Freddie said he wouldn't be doing it in his 60's, but you shouldn't take these things to heart. People change, they get older, but if they still have that passion, they will still perform 100%. That includes strutting et all. |