doremi 14.04.2005 13:05 |
This is from Brian's wesbite. Sounds like they are cancelling the memorial plaque honoring Freddie at his home. What happened? I am most upset about this. **Wed 13 April 05** FREDDIE HERITAGE PLAQUE UNLIKELY "Enquiring whether any truth that a plaque will be installed at Freddie's teenage home - evidently nothing to get too excited about - an idea the Heritage Foundation was floating, but unlikely to happen." Here's the original press release where this was supposedly confirmed... link Is there anything we Queen fans can do about this, write, express our concern...show our support...so this DOES happen for Freddie. |
doremi 14.04.2005 17:35 |
Does Anybody Care? Gee Whiz.... |
doremi 14.04.2005 18:56 |
Somebody, anybody....I thought you all cared about this...:( |
Dany Mercury 14.04.2005 18:59 |
Freddie should have it. It's nothing wrong. Stamps...a Freddie Mercury Award...a Statue...there's nothing wrong. What about an Official Queen Museum ? Some kind of place like "Graceland" but not "Garden Lodge" I know...but I'd like it. |
doremi 14.04.2005 19:04 |
Dany Mercury wrote: Freddie should have it. It's nothing wrong. Stamps...a Freddie Mercury Award...a Statue...there's nothing wrong. What about an Official Queen Museum ? Some kind of place like "Graceland" but not "Garden Lodge" I know...but I'd like it.See My topic about this already... link |
Bohardy 15.04.2005 10:07 |
I don't think this was a 'cancellation' of the plaque, but just a case of someone in the press getting the wrong end of the stick. The idea for a Freddie plaque was only ever mooted, never actually rubber-stamped. |
doremi 15.04.2005 11:39 |
Bohardy wrote: I don't think this was a 'cancellation' of the plaque, but just a case of someone in the press getting the wrong end of the stick. The idea for a Freddie plaque was only ever mooted, never actually rubber-stamped.I think Brian jumped the gun a bit too, because he posted the original press release on his website as well, confirming the plaque for Freddie and that arrangements were already being made to invite Brian, Roger, John, even Paul Rodgers, music press and artists to the official ceremony. Then Brian posted this "cancellation" or what have you. I think maybe the neighbors or homeowners in the area wren't keen about all of the constant tourists that would flood through there and squawked about it, as is the case when this kind of thing is proposed for many deceased celebrities in a residential area, and so The Heritage Foundation pulled the plug on the idea. What would be nice...would be to erect the plaque in a public, non residential area...such as maybe Ealing College where Freddfie first made music in London and studied art school and music and wound up crossing paths...with Brian & Roger at their college, or whereever Freddie played his first gig with Queen or one of his earlist bands, or one of Queen's London Recording studios...that would avoid any residents complaining about tourists traffic, etc. I do NOT think they should give up on the idea, just move the plaque's location to another, better suited venue... |
Fairy 15.04.2005 11:43 |
Arlene of course I CARE!!! He deserves this and so much more. I agree it would be best if it was in a place more within reach, and not a residential area. Fairy |
doremi 15.04.2005 17:03 |
Come on QZ rally round this. It's important but it's not gonna happen if you don't ACT like you care. Geez! |
doremi 16.04.2005 11:58 |
I sent a letter about this to Brian's Soapbox. Here's Jen's answer to me. Dear Arlene I don't think it's a case of 'cancellation' a such... just an idea floated about by the Heritage Foundation. It is surprising that this should be even considered as the rules are that the person being so honoured must have been dead for at least 25 years, so this would be very premature in Feddie's case, and people would really not expect it to happen for a good long time. Best wishes Jen On 15 Apr 2005, at 18:54, arlene weiss wrote: From: Arlene R. Weiss To: Brian May-4/15/2005 Dear Brian, I am quite dismayed and upset that the plaque honoring Freddie by The Heritage Foundation that was to be placed at Freddie's childhood house in Feltham, Middlesex, has been cancelled. I was thinking that maybe the cancellation of this prestigous honor was possibly due to the neighbors or homeowners in the area who may not have been to keen about all of the constant tourists that would flood through their neighborhood and squawked about it, as is the case when this kind of thing is proposed for many celebrities who have passed away, but when the monument is proposed for a residential area, and so The Heritage Foundation pulled the plug on the idea. What would be nice...would be to erect the plaque in a public, non residential area...such as maybe Ealing College where Freddie first made music in London and studied art school and music and wound up crossing paths...with you & Roger at your college, or wherever Freddie played his first gig with Queen or one of his earliest bands, or one of Queen's London Recording studios...that would avoid any residents complaining about tourists, traffic, etc. But PLEASE, I implore The Heritage Foundation and you Brian, to not give up on this idea. I do NOT think The Heritage Foundation and you & Roger should give up on this esteemed and prestigous honor to Freddie, just move the plaque's location to another, better suited public area and venue... I support the idea 100% and it is an honor most suited to Freddie's artistry, landmark contributions, and as The Heritage Foundation's President Rick Wakeman, most wonderfully noted "The foundation, felt Mercury's legendary songs, performances, legacy and valiant battle with AIDS made him deserving of the honour." I couldn't agree more. Thank you and Keep on Rockin' with the Queen + Paul Rodgers Tour! Arlene R. Weiss |
Bob The Shrek 16.04.2005 12:23 |
By 2016 everyone would have forgotten who he was. |
RohemianBapsody 16.04.2005 12:33 |
Who who was ? |
doremi 16.04.2005 12:37 |
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Bob The Shrek 16.04.2005 12:37 |
Whathisface - Fred something or other - used to sing with Bad Company before joining Queen.... |
doremi 16.04.2005 12:40 |
The link is up top, but here it is word for word. THIS WAS ALREADY OFFICIALLY APPOVED!!!!!!!! "Rockers QUEEN and fans from all over the world are expected to gather at FREDDIE MERCURY's British family home to pay tribute to the band's late frontman at the unveiling of a plaque in his honour." "The HERITAGE FOUNDATION have invited Queen stars BRIAN MAY, ROGER TAYLOR, JOHN DEACON and Mercury's replacement PAUL RODGERS to the erection of the prestigious tribute at Mercury's childhood house in Feltham, Middlesex." "The foundation, whose president is rocker RICK WAKEMAN, felt Mercury's legendary songs, performances, legacy and valiant battle with AIDS made him deserving of the honour." "Heritage Foundation spokesman DAVID GRAHAM says, "We felt it was right to choose the place where Freddie spent his youth. We're expecting people from all over the world of music." 08/04/2005 14:06 Also, Jen's answer, no offense sounds like a SPIN!!!! to me. Why..well Rick Wakeman is the PRESIDENT of The Heritage Foundation and Wakeman was the person directly responsible for ALREADY APPROVING Freddie for this memorial plaque. Now Rick Wakeman, being the PRESIDENT...OBVIOUSLY would know the RULES that make a person eligible for this plaque. If the rules are that a deceased person has to be dead 25 years...why would Wakeman even consider, much less GO AHEAD AND APPROVE FREDDIE??????????? This sounds awful fishy and a Spin Doctor answer to me. This ALL was Already APPROVED by Rick Wakeman and The Heritage Foundation, Brian ALREADY posted THAT Press Release to that affect on Brian's website, it was released in a press anouncemant to the press....NOT that Freddie was nominated, but that Freddie was APPROVED..with no mention of eligibility requirements. Plans were already made to INVITE Brian, Roger, John, even paul Rodgers, the press, fans, other music artists. Something about this answer from Jen does NOT hold water at all....and is awful fishy.... |
Bob The Shrek 16.04.2005 12:46 |
From English Heritage site: In order to be eligible for a plaque, a figure must: Have been dead for 20 years, or have passed the centenary of their birth, whichever is the earlier Nominated figures must also meet one or more of the following criteria: Be considered eminent by a majority of members of their own profession or calling Have made an important positive contribution to human welfare or happiness Be recognisable to the well-informed passer-by Deserve national recognition Have resided in a locality for a significant period, in time or importance, within their life and work In the case of foreigners or overseas visitors, candidates should: Be of international reputation or significant standing in their own country It should also be noted that: Plaques can only be erected on the actual building inhabited by the nominated figure, not the site where the building once stood. However, consideration may be given in cases where reconstructed buildings present an exact facsimile frontage on the identical site Buildings marked with plaques must be visible from the public highway Unless a case is deemed exceptional, each figure may not be commemorated with more than two plaques nationwide In London, suggestions will not be considered for figures already commemorated by a plaque erected by the Royal Society of Arts, the London County Council, the Greater London Council or English Heritage Proposals will not be considered for the commemoration of individuals still living Proposals will be considered for the commemoration of sites of special historical interest A building shall not be marked solely because it figures in a work of fiction Although most plaques are erected on the former residences of famous people, the erection of plaques on blocks of flats is not excluded, nor are significant places of work Unless a case is deemed exceptional, plaques shall not be erected on educational buildings or Inns of Court The City of London and Whitehall are ruled out for consideration under the blue plaques scheme |
doremi 16.04.2005 12:52 |
Well why does the press release say Heritage Foundation President Rick Wakeman already approved it and was inviting everybody....who jumped the gun on this...or...did Wakeman "waive" some of the eligilbility requirements...which is indeed possible? Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules. Well. waive some of the "bleeping" rules while Freddie's memory is fresh in our hearts and minds...and his contributions are SO WORTHY, and go ahead with this plaque. If I had Wakeman's address I would write/email him. Where did you get this info? Do they have a website? Thanks. By the way I think we at QZ SHOULD write and pettion Wakeman and the Foundation on this. |
Bob The Shrek 16.04.2005 12:59 |
Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules. She didn't waive the rules - there is an award for foreign nationals that is equivalent to a Knighthood, the individual is just not allowed to be called 'Sir'. Norman Schwarzkopf is also a recipient of this award. The site you want is link |
doremi 16.04.2005 13:56 |
Bob The Shrek wrote: Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules. She didn't waive the rules - there is an award for foreign nationals that is equivalent to a Knighthood, the individual is just not allowed to be called 'Sir'. Norman Schwarzkopf is also a recipient of this award. The site you want is linkThat--is The WRONG ORGANIZATION.... THIS IS THE RIGHT ORGANIZATION!!!!! link |
doremi 16.04.2005 14:30 |
I just emailed a letter to David Graham and Rick Wakeman about this and trying to facilitate this happening NOW for Freddie. FYI...Kenny Everett, the Capitol One Radio DJ who championed Queen & Freddie, has a plaque (who died AFTER Freddie)!!!! Less than 25 years!!!! "Kenny Everett- Plaque unveiled 16th May 1999 Teddington Studios" Also included are Peter Sellers, John Lennon, and Buddy Holly who is from Lubbock, Texas United States....so I'm sure Freddie fits any criteria needed. EVERYBODY!!!!There are 2 DIFFERENT Heritage Foundations. I think BOTH Jen and Bob The Shrek mixed the wrong English Heritage Foundation up with THIS CORRECT organization which does not have all that 25 year Rule criteria stuff. Everybody...here is the CORRECT website for the CORRECT ORGANIZATION!!!!!!!!!! link Here's the list of artists with plaques. link link David Graham's email is david@theheritagefoundation.co.uk Please write him and President Rick Wakeman to petition this and see that Freddie is honored as so he should be, even if "rules" need to bend a little, it's worth it...for Freddie. |
Lester Burnham 16.04.2005 15:30 |
I didn't realize people would go apeshit over Freddie's poor dental hygeine. |
doremi 16.04.2005 15:35 |
Lester Burnham wrote: I didn't realize people would go apeshit over Freddie's poor dental hygeine.Lester...I do think you are very punny...but really...You of all people adore Freddie's contributions...Aren't you P O'd that some polictics behind the scenes AND SOME IDIOTS WHO ARE GETTING THEIR WIRES CROSSED AND INFORMATION MIXED UP are giving him and this honor the shaft? Come on QZ, read my previous post..there has been a mix up with 2 Different Heritage Organizations. I have the correct information to hopefully get this resolved. Read my post before this! |
Lester Burnham 16.04.2005 16:20 |
I really don't get too worked up about things beyond my control. People are people - they make mistakes. If he doesn't get it now, I'm sure he'll get it in a few years' time. Patience, that's what it's all about. |
doremi 16.04.2005 16:32 |
Lester, I used to have patience...not to go weird on you, but a few years ago on a quiet Sunday morning 8:00 am I was on my way to work, driving down a residential road about 20 miles per hour... next thing I know I am waking up from being unconscious, my car is flipped over/upside down and I'm trapped inside with firefighters trying to cut me out...cause some 80 year old idiot who should no longer have had a driver's license, hit my car and me head on. My car was totalled...worse yet... I nearly died that day...Since then... I have NO patience, for Idiots,... ...and time....and life...as you can see..is precious and too damn short and fleeting. And this is important to me and means alot to me. People need to get their wires uncrossed and need to get on the stick...there are 2 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT Heritage Organizations. And no one is corresponding with THE CORRECT one, but they are corresponding with the INCORRECT one. I SENT/emailed a letter to the Chairman today of the CORRECT Heritage Organization. QZ please read that info on page 1 of this topic and get involved. |
Bob The Shrek 17.04.2005 03:14 |
I didn't mix them up - I had no idea this other Heritage Foundation existed! |
YourValentine 17.04.2005 03:46 |
Arlene, I agree that life is short and you should make the best of the time you have. I doubt that campaigning for a plaque on some house in wherever is a valuable cause on which to spend your precious lifetime. Also, as a journalist you should keep some emotional distance to the subject of your research, I am sure you agree. However, it's your choice how many emails you send about this issue but please do not insult Jen, who is a great person and donates so much of her time for Brian's website. She does not give "fishy" or "Spin Doctor" answers - she answers to the best of her knowledge and she really does not deserve to be criticised like this by you. |
doremi 18.04.2005 10:55 |
Here is my answer personally emailed to me from Mr. Ian Freeman of the CORRECT Heritage Foundation who promptly answered my email to The Correct Heritage Foundation this morning 4/18/2005...and Freddie's plaque looks like it is approved after all. Arlene, thanks for your note. I think that if you re-read Brian May's website item, you'll see that it says "Enquiring whether any truth that a plaque will be installed *at Freddie's teenage home*..." This is the house in Feltham, and has since proved not to be possible. In fact, the plan is now to locate the plaque elsewhere, probably on his home in London. We are currently talking to Brian and Roger Taylor and hope to be able to proceed with a plaque shortly. Many thanks for your interest. Best, Ian Freeman The Heritage Foundation |
cw 18.04.2005 11:09 |
Hi i'm knew and a big Freddie fan and have recently put together a band and we sound like him and i think we should hold a remeberance concert singin the queen songs |