| Mr.Jingles 04.04.2005 11:05 |
For those who read Brian May's interview on Uncut Magazine, he mentioned that he considered The Who a better band than Queen. The comment certainly took me by surprise. I don't know if Brian was rather trying to be nice towards The Who, or he truly considered that Queen wasn't as good as The Who. I also remember Roger Daltrey making this comment about Queen: - "When Queen came around they kicked all of our asses". |
| doremi 04.04.2005 13:03 |
I have no idea if Brian was being modest and nice, or he meant it...but I'm not a Who fan myself. I like "Tommy", and a FEW songs like "Leader Of The Band", "LOve Reign Over Me"..but that's about it. MY Mother and my brother love The Who, the way I Love Queen. My Mom and My brother own every album by The Who and my brother has seen The Who back in the late 70's in concert. They think I'm bonkers for loving Queen and owning all of Queen's albums and going on and on about Queen...but I think they're bonkers for loving The Who. I also might add that I know you all here me say that Freddie is the greatest singer, showman, frontman, songwriter, ....and sexiest, hottest.. Well you should hear my Mmom go on about Roger Daltry...all she ever does is talk about how she wants to shag him.... And my brother thinks that Pete Townshend is THE GUITAR GOD!....which of course I can only say... NOT! And I would have loved to have seen Queen kick The Who's asses!!!! |
| dbruce 04.04.2005 13:31 |
Never been a particular fan of The Who myself, but Townshend and Entwhistle are certainly masters of their craft. I've never seen anyone do some of the things Entwhistle could do on a bass. Check out the 5:15 solo (I think) from their Royal Albert Hall DVD from a few years ago. Depends what you're after in your music who you'd like best. I'm sure people on this board would say Queen are best of course, but just being registered to this forum gives you a bit of a bias!! :p David |
| Mr.Jingles 04.04.2005 13:50 |
I don't think The Who is as great as bands like Queen, Led Zeppelin, or Pink Floyd. IMO they're a good band, but they still remain one step behind those 3. Same thing goes for the Stones. The Beatles are the only ones that could be considered to be on a league of their own, although personally and just like most people here I consider Queen the greatest band ever. |
| Lester Burnham 04.04.2005 14:15 |
I agree with Brian. |
| Mean Mistreater 04.04.2005 14:34 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I don't think The Who is as great as bands like Queen, Led Zeppelin, or Pink Floyd. IMO they're a good band, but they still remain one step behind those 3. Same thing goes for the Stones. The Beatles are the only ones that could be considered to be on a league of their own, although personally and just like most people here I consider Queen the greatest band ever.You hit the nail right on the head Jingles. Glad somebody else thinks the same way I do! |
| Maz 04.04.2005 14:42 |
Pretty sure that Brian has made similar comments before. I'm trying to remember where, but within the last few years (maybe around the time of Pete's arrest) he stated how much he thought of The Who and how he thought they were a better band. Then, of course, there is Roger's comment at the UK Hall of Fame Awards. Seems they both liked The Who quite a lot. |
| newcastle 86! 16483 04.04.2005 19:38 |
no way, u gotta say the who and the stones are rock legends! brian may and roger taylor learnt so much from these guys! i dunno what brian was thinkin about when he said this tho....... |
| djaef 04.04.2005 20:12 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I don't think The Who is as great as bands like Queen, Led Zeppelin, or Pink Floyd. IMO they're a good band, but they still remain one step behind those 3. Same thing goes for the Stones. The Beatles are the only ones that could be considered to be on a league of their own, although personally and just like most people here I consider Queen the greatest band ever.Took the words right out of my mouth!! I listened to The Who greatest hits after I read that on Brian's site, and I thought "Brian, you are bonkers...." Lester Burnham, just this once I will forgive your lapse in taste :) |
| Lester Burnham 04.04.2005 21:15 |
I ain't askin' to be forgiven! |
| iGSM 04.04.2005 21:47 |
Well I don't know. I love Queen but I love The Who too, shoe! I'd side with The Who on this. |
| goinback 05.04.2005 02:52 |
Well keep in mind the Who's Greatest Hits isn't much of an insight into the band as Queen's Greatest Hits isn't. The Who's "Quadrophenia" rock opera is rivaled by few things in the rock world IMHO, and only one or two songs from are their compilations.... |
| mike hunt 05.04.2005 10:20 |
figures, lester would agree with brian comments, woop de do for lester, anyway, the who rock, and are true legends. in my opinion queen are the most underated band in history (in the states). the who are huge here and are considered rock royality, which they desearve. their both tremendous, it's all opinions. |
| Benn 05.04.2005 11:31 |
The Who are - simply - the most excitingly dynamic, visual rock band that has ever existed. The very best way to appreciate the excitement is through the The Kids Are Alright film - sadly, this only scratches the surface and a forthcoming DVD project (which I can't expound on at the moment) should certainly put that to rights. I would suggest that anyone interested in listening to them begins with the Live At Leeds album. Then Quadrophenia, then My Generation and then Tommy. You really won't be disappointed. |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2005 11:45 |
mike hunt wrote: figures, lester would agree with brian comments, woop de do for lester, anyway, the who rock, and are true legends. in my opinion queen are the most underated band in history (in the states). the who are huge here and are considered rock royality, which they desearve. their both tremendous, it's all opinions.Wowza, Mike Hunt agreed with me on something! |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2005 11:47 |
Benn wrote: The very best way to appreciate the excitement is through the The Kids Are Alright film - sadly, this only scratches the surface and a forthcoming DVD project (which I can't expound on at the moment) should certainly put that to rights.agkjaghglahglahglkahdlhasldghadlg asdhg adgdhg DVD PROJECT?! Gasp! But yes, I agree that The Kids Are Alright is a stunning portrayal of The Who as they should be meant to taken - not seriously. |
| Lord Blackadder 05.04.2005 11:47 |
Now I do like The Who. And live they are very good, especially with Keith and John. But they aint Queen in my book. Freddie is the best frontman ever. End of. And I wont listen to any arguments about that. You can't beat Queen live. Not Zeppelin, not The Who, not U2 (although they would disagree because they seem to have gone right up themselves lately). But The Who are great. If you have never listened to them then start! Who's Next is brilliant! |
| Mr.Jingles 05.04.2005 11:55 |
U2 needs two live stages to perform, one for the band and the other one for Bono's ego. |
| Benn 05.04.2005 11:58 |
> Who's Next is brilliant.... Certainly is - infact, Queen could do worse that look to release something along the lines of Who's Next Deluxe....... > You can't beat Queen live.... All subjective - I know some people that think Rod Stewart is the best front man ever...... As a dynamic band, The Who have the edge. Each player is a genius in his own right - clearly Entwistle was a better and more influential player that Deacon and KM was a far better drummer than Roger ever was. Pete played his own style without the flashy licks and solos Brian got into. But it's ALL good. |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2005 12:06 |
I'm partial to 'By Numbers', although 'Who's Next' is one of the classic albums of the 70s. I think I've heard just about every song from that album played on the radio in the past ten years or so. |
| onevsion 05.04.2005 12:09 |
arlene wrote: I have no idea if Brian was being modest and nice, or he meant it...but I'm not a Who fan myself. I like "Tommy", and a FEW songs like "Leader Of The Band", "LOve Reign Over Me"..but that's about it. MY Mother and my brother love The Who, the way I Love Queen. My Mom and My brother own every album by The Who and my brother has seen The Who back in the late 70's in concert. They think I'm bonkers for loving Queen and owning all of Queen's albums and going on and on about Queen...but I think they're bonkers for loving The Who. I also might add that I know you all here me say that Freddie is the greatest singer, showman, frontman, songwriter, ....and sexiest, hottest.. Well you should hear my Mmom go on about Roger Daltry...all she ever does is talk about how she wants to shag him.... And my brother thinks that Pete Townshend is THE GUITAR GOD!....which of course I can only say... NOT! And I would have loved to have seen Queen kick The Who's asses!!!!haha.. funny reply! |
| Benn 05.04.2005 12:18 |
Roger (circa 1975) is the one person that I would have given my right arm to be if I was given the chance. He was THE archetypal front man 1969 - 1975 - physically in imaculate condition and a voice that knocks over walls. He also has the benefit of being THE most down-to-earth person I have ever met. A truly humble guy. |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2005 12:23 |
Apparently shags his wife a lot too. That's how he stays in shape. |
| doremi 05.04.2005 13:12 |
Wierd thing about The Who. I have seen several documentaries or read several articles about other bands...who played...either WITH or OPENING for The Who...and I always here.."Oh such and such band kicked The Who's ass, even Daltry or Townshend said so. yada, yada One is at The Monterey Pop Festival in San Francisco United States, when a still relatively unknown Jimmi Hendrix went on BEFORE The Who, metaphorically set the stage on fire, then Hendrix Literally set his guitar on fire. I saw an interview with Pete Townshend and Pete actually said..."Well how the hell do you follow that up? I Didn't know what to do after that performance. So for lack of anything better, I smashed my guitar". or something to that effect. Townshend was totally intimidated by Hendrix. Then Lynyrd Skynyrd Opened for The Who I think at The Ile of Wight Festival...and KICKED The Who's asses. Same thing I've seen Daltry and Townshend say they were actually pissed...because a then fairly unknown, opening act...creamed them. So...The Who aren't all that..even if you ask The Who!!!! Though I guess Brian is a Who fan. Fantasy Concert...would have been nice to see Queen and The Who share the bill back when both were in top form and actually see by the audience, fans or not of both bands...who did the ass kicking. But for me...in concert yeah..Daltry is a good showman..to me he is alot like Paul Rodgers..The Who even do similar music. Daltry considers The Who owing its roots to R&B. Remember their album, The Who maximum R&B. So yeah. Like Free, The Who are good showman, talented musicians and songwriters with Tommy which I like alot (but I don't love it.) Also music critics say The Who are pioneers and invented "Rock Opera" with "Tommy"....Bullocks! Freddie & Queen invented Rock Opera with BoRhap...no critic I've ever read ever give any credit to Freddie & Queen for their pioneering work with Rock Opera..at least not to the extent that Queen deserve. I have seen some critics point out that Queen and BoRhap was "inventive" with as they call it "Mock Opera", which is like a back handed compliment/insult. And Tim Rice (who wound up writing with Freddie on Barcelona) with Andrew Lloyd Webber perfected the Rock Opera musical theater better than The Who with Jesus Christ Superstar anyhow...Which I LOVE. So The Who are not all that. Really. Overrated by critics who adore them but hate Queen, and I have no idea why. No taste or intelligence I guess. But for my money...Queen not only are FAR more talented, but did FAR more for inventing and pioneering the art form and landscape of music and popular culture than The Who. |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2005 13:25 |
Tommy came out in 1969. Bohemian Rhapsody came out in 1975. Queen did not invent rock opera. Neither did The Who, but they merely perfected it. Say all you want about The Who, but they have kicked serious ass in their day. Live, they were amazing. The onstage chemistry between the four might not have been the chummiest, but they could blow anyone off the stage. Listen to Live At Leeds for proof. The Who also had their 'down' periods, and opinion is divided between who was better at Monterey - Hendrix or The Who. They both didn't want to follow each other on stage as they both knew one would blow the other out of the water, and, unfortunately for The Who, Hendrix closed Monterey and was thus ingrained in peoples' memories. While you're doing some of your journalistic research there, you might want to check out peoples' opinions of the Concert For New York in 2001, when The Who came on and completely wowed the audience. There were firefighters with tears in their eyes as they were singing along to The Who's performance, and the general consensus was that they were the best band of the day, period. And, having watched that performance when it first aired, I would have to wholeheartedly agree. |
| Mr.Jingles 05.04.2005 13:32 |
I remember watching The Concert for New York in 2001 and brought to tears after watching Jimmy Fallon's 80s medley performance, which was even worse than Adam Sandler doing Opera Man. I've never seen such a pathetic performance in my whole life. They should have left all the SNL idiots out of the show. Btw, The Who truly gave the best performance that day. |
| newcastle 86! 16483 05.04.2005 18:56 |
live at leeds kicks some serious rock ass its a great album i highly recommend it |
| NOTWMEDDLE 05.04.2005 19:14 |
Queen are in my Top 5 best bands The Who are Top 10 and I think you all know I am a major Pink Floyd fanatic! Floyd relied on music and spectacle and larger than life graphics on their covers to sell records. Also, PF were one of the earliest bands to make pyro a part of their act. The burning gong on Set the Controls, the explosions on Careful With That Axe, the plane crashing at the end of On the Run and the fireworks on One of These Days. Also, they pioneered use of dry ice onstage. Queen were great cos Freddie was the major rock showman and Brian was the guitarist whom would just rock out. |
| iGSM 06.04.2005 01:02 |
Live at Leeds is the best live album ever. Ever. Therefore I love Tommy too. Pete/John: '...which said he was a jazz sage, and quite what that means I don't know' Keith: 'It's a flavour of chicken' I don't know how much of a rival The Who and The Beatles were but I would loved to have seen them as equal billed to open for...James Dean. |
| Benn 06.04.2005 04:18 |
Paul Mcartney credits The Who's "A Quick One While He's Away" from the "A Quick One" (or "Happy Jack" in the USA) album as being the precursor to EVERYTHING the Beatles did post 1967 and the major influence behind "Sgt. Pepper". The Who did share bills with The Beatles in late '64 and early '65 whick kicked off the great friendship between Keith and Ringo. As for The Who saying that other bands are / were better than them, name me one band that doesn't do that? They all have a great deal of mutual respect for each other's art to the point where they are self-effacing. Pete's credited all kinds of people that supported them as being better than The Who (Toots and the Maytalls, Labelle, Jethro Tull, Free etc). There's no point reading too much into that. "I'll tell you fuckers something, alright! Now listen. Just fucking listen and shut up, right! This is a fucking rock and roll concert, not a fucking tea party! Alright!" Pete Townshend - Long Beach, C.A. 1971 |
| iGSM 06.04.2005 10:51 |
heh, sounds like something Pete'd say. heh. |
| The Real Wizard 06.04.2005 13:36 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Apparently shags his wife a lot too. That's how he stays in shape.Oh, so that's what you do when you're married? |
| Lester Burnham 06.04.2005 20:09 |
Well, that's the reason I'M getting married. |
| kingogre 07.04.2005 03:56 |
The Who invented rock opera with a quick one while hes away in 1965. John entwistle and keith moon are without any doubt some of the absolutely most gifted musicians on their instruments ever. Pete Townshend is one of the original architects of rock guitar with a comlpetely unique and powerful way of playing that is one of the most influential in rock history. And roger daltrey is a extremely good frontman/singer. The who ´were the greatest live band ever, anyone who doudts that should check out live at leeds, live at the isle of wight(both the movie and the record) or the kids are allright movie. |
| Benn 07.04.2005 05:08 |
God I love this thread. The Who started for me in 1984 when I was home from school and watching Pebble Mill At 1 on BBC1 - there was an interview with some blonde bloke and they played this bit of film - very hazy in my mind until 1988 when the self same clips appeared on a TV advert for Who's Better Who's Best. From that moment, I switched from beeing a Queen devotee to a Who-phreak. From there, my life changed completely. I've toured with the band twice - UK 1996, UK 2000 and UK 2002, plus various shows Stateside. I fell in and out of love with someone inside the inner circle and have been treated to the very best in what grown-up rock can provide both spiritually, physically and mentally. I have also been privelaged enough to spend a great deal of time with the greatest Bass player rock has seen and also to chew the fat with two other truly inspirational musicians. I've met some absolutely wonderful people along the way and have built up a collection of stuff that to many, is completely useless - but to be is treasure. FOR ME, The Who (and Pete specifically, through his writing) have the uncanny ability to be able to talk directly to me as an English kid (or someone that WAS a kid - has that changed?). All the classic Who songs of frustration and teenage angst, the dilema of what to do and how to express your feelings - the search for the person that you really are as opposed to what people think you are. It's all there in a way that no other band has been able to do. I adore Queen - they were my first love - but I view them now as a stepping stone to something much bigger and more intense. I'm sure that there are hundreds of people that think the saem way about Queen or other bands - and that's the beauty of thing thing called music! |
| Mr.Jingles 07.04.2005 08:39 |
Any question about who was a better live band between The Who and Queen can be answered by watching the Live Aid DVD. |
| Liquid Scream 07.04.2005 09:16 |
Mr.Jingles79 - How can actually compare Queen and the Who live using Live Aid as a reference??? The Who hadn't played together since I believe 82, this was a one off show. Keith Moon was long dead by this time, they were never the same live band after that. |
| iGSM 07.04.2005 10:19 |
Or you could compare The Who and Queen at Woodstock. Oh..oh yeah. Queen was in it's most infantile stages when Woodstock came about. How old were you at this time, Benn? When you discovered The Who? |
| Mr.Jingles 07.04.2005 10:32 |
Although I respect The Who for being a great live band, they're still behind Queen IMO (with or without Live Aid as a reference). Although I'd definitely put The Who along with AC/DC and Led Zeppelin for the greatest live acts ever. |
| iGSM 07.04.2005 10:47 |
Aiee! They've all had a member of the band die. Isn't ANYONE safe these days? |
| Benn 07.04.2005 10:49 |
I was 10 when I saw the first clip on Pebble Mill At 1 and then 14 when I saw it again on the TV advert. There was something about it that made me think "What the HELL is THAT noise!". The Who's set at Live Aid actually wasn't that bad in terms of musical quality - things conspired against them. Kenny was saying some horrible things about Roger (whilst doing a few things to a certain lady that he shouldn't have been doing) and Roger resented someone that was such a recent addition to the band mouthing off. Kenny is a great drummer, but not a Who drummer (where Zak Starkey certainly is - he's got the spirit unique to The Who in him). If Pete hadn't fallen over and Roger hadn't made himself look stupid by trying to cover it up, and if the satellite feed hadn't cut out, we could be talking a different story. On the day, they were just another band. However, during the Concert For NYC in '01, they showed just how far they had come. A friend of mine is an NYC Fire Lieutenant and used to work for Pete in the early 80's (heroin period) - she first saw them at The Fillmore East in '68 and swears blind that she had NEVER seen Pete so fired up as at that show in '01. I was watching at home with my parents and sister - Iwas obviously spellbound by what they did - my dad's a fan from the early days, but even my sister had to say "God - now I know what you've been on about for all these years!" and she HATES The Who. Woodstock's an intersting one though - both Pete and Roger have openly admitted that they hated it, while John told me that he thought the band were only ever better twice (Forest Hills in July '71 and the US tour of late '76). My take is that it's a brilliant performance and deserves to be out there as a landmark piece for everyone to see. Remember that Hendrix only did his tricks after coming to London in 1967, signing to Track Records (run by The Who's management) and seeing The Who on stage........ |
| QueenZeppelin 07.04.2005 11:33 |
I'm pretty sure Pete fell over on purpose... |
| Lester Burnham 07.04.2005 12:58 |
I actually don't think he did, but I know Roger did. It looks like he kind of slipped as he swung his foot over the microphone, but I'm not really sure. I became a Who fan about ten years ago, even though I had been given Tommy as a Christmas present in 1993 or 1994. I didn't listen to it until much later after I had picked up My Generation - The Very Best Of The Who. I listened to that and became immediately hooked, then I listened to Tommy and became even more addicted. I picked up album after album that I could, and by now my favorites are By Numbers, Quadrophenia, and The Who Sell Out. I've also seen them live twice, both in Camden, NJ - once in 2000, with Entwistle, and then again in 2002, without Entwistle, and both were very moving and poignant performances in their respective ways. I remember on the night that Entwistle died, my friend, who's also a Who fan as well as a bass player who modelled himself after Entwistle, called me at work and told me so, but I told him that was preposterous. Once I got into my car, I tuned into the classic rock station to see if he was right or not, and they were playing 'My Size', one of John's solo songs which I had never heard on the radio before, and that was proof enough that he had died. The station then went on to play almost the entirety of Live At Leeds uninterupted. I've attempted to collect every single Who song out there, but there are still considerable gaps. Benn, I've emailed you, but I'm not sure if you got my email or not. |
| LiveAidQueen 07.04.2005 17:16 |
I dislike the Who overall. |
| Lester Burnham 07.04.2005 17:19 |
Well that's great. |
| doremi 07.04.2005 17:44 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Any question about who was a better live band between The Who and Queen can be answered by watching the Live Aid DVD.True, The Who were truly off that day...and ALSO, even Led Zeppelin as well, EVEN NOW were so put off by how bad their own performance also was, they wouldn't allow Bob Geldof to the rights to release the footage on the Live Aid DVD...Page & Plant instead donated money to the Live Aid charity. Hard to believe that The Who, Zeppelin, even Bob Dylan, all of these so called GREATS who were more than used to playing to live crowds in the thousands or more...BLEW it at Live Aid...but ONE band ONLY...WON the day...the majestic Queen, who continued to play live shows to perfection until Freddie had to stop doing live shows. Queen were brilliant live from their earliest days in the 1970's until their last show in 86 at Knebworth. |
| Lester Burnham 07.04.2005 18:27 |
Actually, it's fairly easy to believe, considering The Who hadn't played in 3 years, Led Zep since 1980, and Bob Dylan changed his set list minutes before going onstage, leaving Ronnie Wood and Keith Richards in the lurch. |
| iGSM 07.04.2005 22:07 |
I forced myself into liking Tommy and have since worked my way from there (The Who Sell Out, Quadrophenia et al). Damn good thing I did too. Same with 'The Beatles' (the album). I used to loathe Side 1 but now love it! Aiee! There's a doctor I've found who can cure the boy. |
| Benn 08.04.2005 08:29 |
Pete fell over at Live Aid because he was out of his face and, when he went to throw his leg up and over his vocal mic (as is one of his trademarks - see Charlton '74 or TKAA for reference), he clipped the top of it and lost his balance. I think that mistake, infront of such a vast audience, was one of the turning points for Pete and finally kicked himself up the ass to give up the booze (he was already off heroin by that stage). Lester, here's another address bennkempster@yahoo.com - use that one. |
| Han 09.04.2005 19:52 |
Going back to the original point, don't you think Brian's opinion is a generational thing? As The Who are that bit older as a band and one of his major influences as a live act, he's just expressing the same feelings that all musicians have concerning their early heroes. It's like the Stones being knocked out by meeting Muddy Waters at Chess, or Dylan and Woody Guthrie. Bri's also commented before on the sense of danger at a Who gig - never knowing whether it was going to touch the stars or fall flat on its face - and that's not something that I associate with Queen (not necessarily a bad thing of course). |
| syncursor 10.04.2005 00:41 |
I think it would have been shitty of Brian to say Queen were better than The Who. I HATE egotistical bands. I know Roger is a big fan of The Who, also. No matter how big a band become, they should always still enjoy the other artists who they loved. Never think they are better than those who inspired them. BTW: The Who are better than Zeppelin and The Stones. There's way more diversification in Townshend's writing than either of those 2 bands. |
| The Real Wizard 12.04.2005 23:06 |
syncursor wrote: The Who are better than Zeppelin and The Stones. There's way more diversification in Townshend's writing than either of those 2 bands.Yes, I fully agree... although Zeppelin are the far more influential band. |
| MercuryArts 13.04.2005 00:43 |
Lester Burnham wrote: While you're doing some of your journalistic research there, you might want to check out peoples' opinions of the Concert For New York in 2001, when The Who came on and completely wowed the audience. There were firefighters with tears in their eyes as they were singing along to The Who's performance, and the general consensus was that they were the best band of the day, period. And, having watched that performance when it first aired, I would have to wholeheartedly agree.I watched that performance live as well. It was amazing! Firemen were dancing, singing & crying in the isles! Daltry was in excellent voice. Pete was playing w/ energy he hasn't displayed in decades! He soloed all over the place. Technical ability is great but can't hold a candle to raw emotion & attytude (S. Philly representing)!I got chills watching it! Entwhistle was solid as ever. I was glad to witness his final live performace ever, even if only on tv. They played the perfect set; Who Are You, Behind Blue Eyes, Babba O'Riley & Won't Get Fooled Again. They clearly stole the show & Mr McCartney couldn't come close to shining their shoes that night. Even w/ Clapton on guitar. |
| Mustapha Ibrahim 13.04.2005 05:24 |
Im back. I can see where Brian is coming from although im not a fan of the who either you have to admit they are incredibly talented i mean i never saw a drummer as good as Keith Moon apart from Lars Ullrich and John Entwhistle was the best bass player ever so maybe Brian is talking about the talent the who possessed compared to Queen. But the who like Led Zeppelin in my view underachived both live and on particular albums wheras Queen are without doubt the best live act ever and some of the best songs ever recorded. |
| Benn 13.04.2005 07:41 |
Mercury Arts Just for the reciord, that WASN'T Entwistle's final performance ever. The guys played three very small shows in January of 2002 - two at The Guildhall, Portsmouth 27th & 28th (1500 capacity) and 1 at The Coloseum, Watford 31st (1300 capacity) and then two further shows at The Royal Albert Hall 7th & 8th February. I spent the whole time with the band and they were so incredibly up for thetour in the US of that summer - John especially was excited that so many galleries had taken the punt on displaying his artwork. They had planned to develop the setlist from what had been played in 200 and then those early whows of that year. We were treated to Summertime Blues, Baby Don't You Do It, Young Man Blues and a 20 minute Tommy Medley. They had rehearsed stuff like John's When I Was A Boy and the stunning In A Hand Or A Face too. Sadly, events prevented all this happening. But his funeral and the memorial service in London were truly fitting tributes. |
| Lester Burnham 13.04.2005 08:37 |
No shit, 'When I Was A Boy'?!?!?! ...goddamnit. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.04.2005 08:38 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote:Chill out girl. You gotta admit, that Bono is madly in love with himself, and he's ego just keeps getting bigger and bigger.Mr.Jingles79 wrote: U2 needs two live stages to perform, one for the band and the other one for Bono's ego.Yes, cause Freddie didn't have a big ego? Queen didn't have a big ego? Fuck off! :P ...and yes, Freddie was incredibly cocky as well in the early days but his arrogance started to wear off through the years mainly because I think Freddie realised that Queen's greatness should speak for itself. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.04.2005 08:44 |
syncursor wrote: I think it would have been shitty of Brian to say Queen were better than The Who. I HATE egotistical bands. I know Roger is a big fan of The Who, also. No matter how big a band become, they should always still enjoy the other artists who they loved. Never think they are better than those who inspired them. BTW: The Who are better than Zeppelin and The Stones. There's way more diversification in Townshend's writing than either of those 2 bands.I always found Led Zeppelin to be incredibly overated throught their first 3 albums (which many consider their best). IMO they were way too bluesy, and not very original. I think that Led Zepellin found their true potential on the albums they made from 'Led Zeppelin IV', through 'Houses Of The Holy' and I'd have to say their best was bsolutely 'Physical Graffiti'. Led Zep's originality and creativity was at it's peak on those 3. |
| Benn 13.04.2005 10:37 |
>goddamnit! Yep - sound-checked at Watford. John was so keen to play it but it got pulled at the last minute by Pete who decided that (as usual) one Entwistle song per show was enough at that time. And we'd ALL rather have heard that than Behind Blue Eyes or You Better You Bet, wouldn't we? |
| Leppar 13.04.2005 11:07 |
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| Lester Burnham 13.04.2005 12:37 |
Benn wrote: >goddamnit! Yep - sound-checked at Watford. John was so keen to play it but it got pulled at the last minute by Pete who decided that (as usual) one Entwistle song per show was enough at that time. And we'd ALL rather have heard that than Behind Blue Eyes or You Better You Bet, wouldn't we?The words to 'When I Was A Boy' are very prophetic, aren't they? :( |
| Benn 13.04.2005 15:46 |
Lester, Yep - but remember that it was written when his marriage to Alison was failing around 1970. Even though he always dedicated "My Wife" in a fairly disparaging way, John and Alison remained VERY close friends - the amazing thing is that no one ever truly appreciated what Alison went through with John (and Karen with Pete to an even greater extent). I think "When I Was A Boy" is more an admission of guilt. |
| Lester Burnham 13.04.2005 16:07 |
Doesn't stop it from probably being one of my favorite Entwistle songs, along with 'Trick Of The Light' and '905'. |
| Benn 14.04.2005 04:56 |
And, here's another thing, "Eminence Front" is actually an Entwistle riff that Pete stole - it was planned for the Sci-Fi album that he was working on and played a demo to the band sometime in '77 - that got rejected from the material that made up Who Are You and Pete then came up with it for the song that was on Face Dances. There's a wealth of unreleased Entwistle material in the vaults - his own demos for Who and solo material, plus vast quantities of stuff from the JE Band. HOPEFULLY, there will be a sries of archive releases along the lines of Pete's Scoop collections. Also, the manuscript for John's autobiography remains sitting there unfinished - what state it's in is anyone's guess, but I'm hoping that a few words in the right ears might just get it pushed along. John was always writing - be it songs or his (faded) memories - and much of it reflected his unique sense of humor. |