Ok, just to clarify wot the deal is with filmin Queen gigs and the DVD release, i sent an e-mail askin about it and heres wot they sed.
This is the same for 99% of all concerts in the world ever! Yes there
will be a tour DVD, but no act would ever let free filming in a gig, it
opens them up to bootleggers. Simple as that, it steals money from the
artist and provides fans with inferior product often at overblown
prices.
Acts do not want unofficial material out there - what if they had an off
night? Queen are a band who always release quality products and despise
bootleggers.
I am sure your intentions are honorable, but who is to say a 'fan' next
to you films it and the produces the DVD en mass and sells in a market
-it rips off the band, the record label and the fan. This sort of piracy
is what the music industry has been battling for years. That aside, it
is illegal and in breach of copyright. People are now receiving heavy
fines and possible jail terms.
I hope this clears up the matter.
You will have to wait on the official DVD. Which will be produced,
mixed, designed and be an all round superior package.
p.s, my question was why cant we film for home personal use and whats happening in terms of a DVD of the tour?
deleted user 31.03.2005 05:53
With regards to the camera's part of your question, what the f*ck did you expect them to say? Did you expect them to reply with "Oh its only for personal use is it? Thats ok then come right in - we trust you and we dont think you'll sell your stuff on ebay and not rob us of royalties!!!!". Yeah right.
However it is nice to see that they still considering releasing an official DVD of the tour
yeah but i wud of been able to come home after and watch it agen and agen cos it proably be the last time i see Queen perform wont it! yeah im only 17 but its probably goin to be their final tour! so i wud of like to come home and just keep watchin that concert knowing i saw them and i can relive that time!
I'll be trying to film a few songs with my digital photocamera. It's 320x240, 19 frames a second with sound. Quite close to smooth moving (25 frames/sec is normal).
I hope to be able to film about 4 or 5 songs depending on lenght and memorycard size.
Greetzzzzzzzz,
Freddie
Netherlands
>Acts do not want unofficial material out there - what if they had an off
night? Queen are a band who always release quality products and despise
bootleggers.
You've GOT to be joking!!!
This from the people that are putting bootlegs up on an official site for fans to download and, as a result, increasing website traffic and as a result, interest in the band.
"Piracy" steals money from bands because pirated recordings are available in shops.
"Bootlegs" do not steal anything from anyone because the band don't choose to make the recordings available officially, therefore, there's no money going to the band in the first place.
Who did you send the e-mail to? Sounds like a Jacky Gunn / OIQFC response to me......
deleted user 31.03.2005 07:47
They should realize the serious Bootleggers will ALWAYS find a way to get product to sell. The only way to prevent them from selling it for a product, is to allow taping. This prevents bootleggers from selling their recordings because for each gig there are several different sources and most will follow the rules and not sell.
As for it stealing money from the concert DVD, most fans who are dedicated enough to get a lot of boots will buy the concert DVD. even if they have a bootleg of the show because official concert DVDs are typically much better quality than boots.
I don't know what's worse: the fact someone took time to respond or the fact that you actually emailed asking to bootleg a show.
Why don't you email and ask if you can put up copyright songs on the internet for free? Better yet, tell them it's 46664 stuff and see if they'll let you.
Its interesting, but Mark Knopfler, who used to be Dire Straits frontman, is also on tour now and they have the following on their site:
RECORDING OF GIGS AND PHOTOGRAPHY Official Statement
"The official policy of Mark and PCM is that they have no objection to fans taking photographs and making recordings of gigs on video, DAT, MD, and Walkmans providing that in doing so you do not interfere with the enjoyment of other fans. It is expressly understood that resulting photographs and/or sound recordings are purely for your personal use only, if we find anybody seeking to exploit these in any commercial sense then the privilege will be withdrawn. Feeds to soundboards will not be provided so please don't ask. Professional photographic and recording equipment should not be taken to gigs. However, there are a number of venues which, irrespective of the policy of the artist or artist's management, do not allow photography or recording. Such venues will not permit cameras or recording equipment to be taken into the concert hall. In these cases, Mark and PCM will respect the policy of the venues. We recommend that you check the policy of the venue before taking cameras and recording equipment to gigs."
So there are acts out there who do not mind audience recordings, which I think is great ! Whish Queen would do that as well...
The funniest part was when i sent the e-mail they replied within five minutes of it being sent! so they must have somet ready top automatically send e-mails straight bak!
"yeah but i wud of been able to come home after and watch it agen and agen cos it proably be the last time i see Queen perform wont it! yeah im only 17 but its probably goin to be their final tour! so i wud of like to come home and just keep watchin that concert knowing i saw them and i can relive that time! "
"Yes, but I would have been able to come home afterwards and watch it again and again because it would probably be the last time I see Queen perform, wouldn't it? Yes, I'm only 17, but it's probably going to their final tour! So, I would have liked to have been able to come home and just keep watching that concert knowing I saw them and can relive that time!"
Spot the difference...
More seriously (is anything more serious than this allegedly fully educated individual being almost old enough to vote????), Brian's live video was edited, thus keeping the bootleg versions alive. Ditto the Tribute show. They're only making "selected tracks" available for download. And this insistance that bootlegs = pirates is insulting.
Good point, P_G :-) I don't know if some people are stupid or just pretend they're stupid but if it's impossible for them to write a correct sentence, then they shouldn't write anything at all. This is not an English forum, it's an international forum so please, try to use proper English and don't confuse people from other countries.
Now seriously: it would be great if the band allowed people to record / take photos but I don't care that much about it. If I want to record or if I want to take photos, I WILL find a way to do it. It's just that in some venues one has to be more careful. But I will be VERY surprised if this won't be the most bootlegged Queen tour ever. Three days after Brixton and I already know of six different audio/video recordings - and I didn't even search for this kind of info! That will be the same at each venue.