| The Mir@cle 30.03.2005 06:44 |
After the Fancourt performance, they all stand up to shoot Paul down... But where are they now?? |
| deleted user 30.03.2005 06:58 |
shootin themselves in the head cos now they've seen PR can really do a gud job! |
| Tero 30.03.2005 07:24 |
Perhaps they're still waiting to seem him in concert? :/ I doubt very much that everyone who has critisised Paul in the past was at Brixton... For starters, they couldn't all fit in there. :P |
| Sonia Doris 30.03.2005 07:27 |
maybe they saw a ice cream stand and they couldnt resist the temptation... |
| Fairy 30.03.2005 08:17 |
Well I think that those of us who aren’t particularly thrilled by the idea of this tour – in various degrees and with different reasons – will feel this way in spite of how well Paul does. At least, that’s how I feel. I also believe the great majority of those who are against the tour won’t go to see the concerts so they can’t have an opinion about them, though I believe it was a good show. Ps. I don’t know why some of those who are in favor of the tour claim that those who are against it are not true fans. Being Queen fans doesn’t necessarily mean being Brian Roger + PR fans. In any case…good luck for the rest of the tour! Fairy |
| Ray D O'Gaga 30.03.2005 10:08 |
Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating and being a fan CERTAINLY means at the VERY LEAST not WISHING and HOPING for the tour to be a FAILURE and practically SALIVATING WITH DELIGHT when the Fancourt show turned out to be less than spectacular. And I have seen MANY on this board doing just that over the last two weeks. Not everyone but many (and not necessarily you). Regardless of whether or not Freddie was your favorite, regardles of how much you like or dislike Paul Rodgers, regardless of whatever personal grudge you hold against Brian May for whatever perceived greed/arrogance/whatever you see in him, a TRUE FAN does not wish ABJECT FAILURE for the band or the remnants of the band they claim to love. "If they don't do it MY WAY, I hope they FAIL!" BOLLOCKS! You don't have to like or agree with everything they do, but that is going way too far for anyone to call themselves a fan. To THAT group of "fans", I say FUCK THE LOT OF YOU! I hope the tour is blindingly successful and popular if for no other reason than to spite you all and rub your smug, self-righteous and holier-than-thou faces in it! HA! |
| Fenderek 30.03.2005 10:59 |
Fairy wrote: Ps. I don’t know why some of those who are in favor of the tour claim that those who are against it are not true fans.I actually heard it other way more often- those who attend the shows should be ashamed, blah blah blah- this kinda bollocks. Not many ppl who didn't like the idea were so articulate as you, who I remember was arguing against, but knowing why and using some argumentation with it; still respecting the others' views. Now Fairy- that was RARE. I guess the attitude (I haven't seen it but than- I was avoiding THOSE discussions recently) you're talking about was just the reaction top all that ridiculous spit that we heard for liking the idea. I HAVE TO say that i've got now great satisfaction, as the gig itself was a HUGE success and honestly- a great tribute to AWESOME MUSIC. And all nay-sayers can now IMO go and f**k themselves. But nay-sayers- I don't mean ppl like you. I mean ppl who just felt necessary to abuse others for liking the projects, who didn't even know what the hell were they about, who were negative just for the sake of it- claiming that they're the ones who love Freddie so much and only they know how to respect his legacy. Well- fuck that. To this attitude you can react only either by ignoring it or replying in not very diplomatic way. With you it was different- I remember at QOL you were against it, but you were arguing in NORMAL way, and anyone could understand where were you coming from; I repeat- that was rare. Hence- maybe some ppl just thought- payback time. As ridiculous as it sounds- that's how it worked IMO... |
| Haystacks Calhoun 30.03.2005 11:00 |
What you simply have is a bunch of ne'er do well losers who, leading up to the show, showered Paul, Brian, and Roger with insults from the safety of their computers. I'm sure that their mothers are proud... Now, having seen the mighty pheonix that is Queen rise again, the motors coming back to life, they have been proven wrong. So, now they sit in their Mom's basement, in their Bloomers, probably ripping others on some different site. All of those LOSERS can go play in traffic. After they get done tossing to internet porn.... |
| Fairy 30.03.2005 12:35 |
Fenderek wrote:Thanks Fenderek. I see what you mean. Thanks for remembering my arguments! You are right, I have my views but this has nothing to do with hoping the tourFairy wrote: Ps. I don’t know why some of those who are in favor of the tour claim that those who are against it are not true fans.I actually heard it other way more often- those who attend the shows should be ashamed, blah blah blah- this kinda bollocks. Not many ppl who didn't like the idea were so articulate as you, who I remember was arguing against, but knowing why and using some argumentation with it; still respecting the others' views. Now Fairy- that was RARE. I guess the attitude (I haven't seen it but than- I was avoiding THOSE discussions recently) you're talking about was just the reaction top all that ridiculous spit that we heard for liking the idea. I HAVE TO say that i've got now great satisfaction, as the gig itself was a HUGE success and honestly- a great tribute to AWESOME MUSIC. And all nay-sayers can now IMO go and f**k themselves. But nay-sayers- I don't mean ppl like you. I mean ppl who just felt necessary to abuse others for liking the projects, who didn't even know what the hell were they about, who were negative just for the sake of it- claiming that they're the ones who love Freddie so much and only they know how to respect his legacy. Well- fuck that. To this attitude you can react only either by ignoring it or replying in not very diplomatic way. With you it was different- I remember at QOL you were against it, but you were arguing in NORMAL way, and anyone could understand where were you coming from; I repeat- that was rare. Hence- maybe some ppl just thought- payback time. As ridiculous as it sounds- that's how it worked IMO... is a failure...My reaction when I heard the concert in South Africa was of sadness, certainly not of joy. I totally respect the band and anyone who is going to their shows. Thanks again and ciao to all Fairy |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 30.03.2005 16:38 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote: Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating and being a fan CERTAINLY means at the VERY LEAST not WISHING and HOPING for the tour to be a FAILURE and practically SALIVATING WITH DELIGHT when the Fancourt show turned out to be less than spectacular. And I have seen MANY on this board doing just that over the last two weeks. Not everyone but many (and not necessarily you). Regardless of whether or not Freddie was your favorite, regardles of how much you like or dislike Paul Rodgers, regardless of whatever personal grudge you hold against Brian May for whatever perceived greed/arrogance/whatever you see in him, a TRUE FAN does not wish ABJECT FAILURE for the band or the remnants of the band they claim to love. "If they don't do it MY WAY, I hope they FAIL!" BOLLOCKS! You don't have to like or agree with everything they do, but that is going way too far for anyone to call themselves a fan. To THAT group of "fans", I say FUCK THE LOT OF YOU! I hope the tour is blindingly successful and popular if for no other reason than to spite you all and rub your smug, self-righteous and holier-than-thou faces in it! HA!No Freddie = NO QUEEN. QUEEN 1991 RIP |
| hcrvelin 30.03.2005 16:50 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: No Freddie = NO QUEEN. QUEEN 1991 RIPI believe everyone sane agrees with that. But this is not Queen but rather Queen+PR. You can perhaps call it Queen II. It is band which on ashes of old one is playing all those known tracks back to us. And people like it. At least majority as reactions are after Brixton. You may find offensive whole thing, but your reaction is even more offensive my dear. If you wish to announce to whole world that Queen is RIP for you and everything after is scam then simply put it as your signature. No need to spam every topic with that. Is it that hard? |
| Serry... 30.03.2005 17:31 |
Fairy wrote: Well I think that those of us who aren’t particularly thrilled by the idea of this tour – in various degrees and with different reasons – will feel this way in spite of how well Paul does. At least, that’s how I feel. I also believe the great majority of those who are against the tour won’t go to see the concerts so they can’t have an opinion about them, though I believe it was a good show. Ps. I don’t know why some of those who are in favor of the tour claim that those who are against it are not true fans. Being Queen fans doesn’t necessarily mean being Brian Roger + PR fans. In any case…good luck for the rest of the tour! FairyAbsolutely right. This is what I have said after the first fights on this board between Bri, Rog + PR fans and Queen fans. |
| Serry... 30.03.2005 17:34 |
Actually there are some persons who was there and who didn't like PR as a frontman, read "Post Your Brixton reviews here!" and you'd see it. |
| pastieman 30.03.2005 18:20 |
Poodle wrote No Freddie = NO QUEEN. QUEEN 1991 RIP Poodle/K9, you are like an old woman, moaning on and on all the bloody time. Move on in life and stop playing the same song over and over again, you are boring us all, we know what you think. I and many thousands of others have moved on, I am proud to say I was at Brixton and had a bloody good time, at a fantastic show, put on by 2 of my heros. Your negativaty is getting very thin. Do us all a huge service (but mainly yourself), swallow your pride and get a ticket and have the fucking time of your life at a live concert, playing Queen songs, sung by members of all of our fav band, in 2005. The only loser in all of this is YOU, if you dont do this, trust me you will live to regret it, and grow old, being a sad person, dwelling in the past and not living the here and now or in the future. |
| Serry... 30.03.2005 18:34 |
pastieman wrote: Poodle wrote No Freddie = NO QUEEN. QUEEN 1991 RIP Poodle/K9, you are like an old woman, moaning on and on all the bloody time. Move on in life and stop playing the same song over and over again, you are boring us all, we know what you think. I and many thousands of others have moved on, I am proud to say I was at Brixton and had a bloody good time, at a fantastic show, put on by 2 of my heros. Your negativaty is getting very thin. Do us all a huge service (but mainly yourself), swallow your pride and get a ticket and have the fucking time of your life at a live concert, playing Queen songs, sung by members of all of our fav band, in 2005. The only loser in all of this is YOU, if you dont do this, trust me you will live to regret it, and grow old, being a sad person, dwelling in the past and not living the here and now or in the future.Live your own life and don't give advices to other people about their lives, you're not God. (That's not about Brixton show that's about the habbit to change someone's life by your own advices) |
| Ray D O'Gaga 30.03.2005 19:10 |
No Freddie = NO QUEEN. QUEEN 1991 RIPYou know fuck-all, my friend. Kiss Brian May's ass. He and Roger put their money where their mouth is. They're better men than you'll ever be. Bound to be a loser in the end. Hopefully a real fan will get the ticket you're too pure to buy. Enjoy staying home and listening to your CDs. |
| pastieman 30.03.2005 19:24 |
If I was God, then Freddie would still be with us. All I was trying to say was this, people need to move on and not live in the past for the rest of their days. Life goes on, we all need to move on, and not live in a time warp. This not only applies to our dear Freddie, but to anyone we have lost ( I lost my sister-in law last month, age 33, with 3 kids under 4 years old). We must never forget those we have lost, but we cant stay still forever, we all have to rebuild our lives and move on. We just dont need to here the same thing over and over again, its boring, and people get fed up of it. I am not trying to tell others what they should do, but its sad when some folk are so pig headed that they wont give anything new a chance, so miss out in the end and live to regret it. |
| Saint Jiub 30.03.2005 23:48 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote: Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating and being a fan CERTAINLY means at the VERY LEAST not WISHING and HOPING for the tour to be a FAILURE and practically SALIVATING WITH DELIGHT when the Fancourt show turned out to be less than spectacular. And I have seen MANY on this board doing just that over the last two weeks. Not everyone but many (and not necessarily you). Regardless of whether or not Freddie was your favorite, regardles of how much you like or dislike Paul Rodgers, regardless of whatever personal grudge you hold against Brian May for whatever perceived greed/arrogance/whatever you see in him, a TRUE FAN does not wish ABJECT FAILURE for the band or the remnants of the band they claim to love. "If they don't do it MY WAY, I hope they FAIL!" BOLLOCKS! You don't have to like or agree with everything they do, but that is going way too far for anyone to call themselves a fan. To THAT group of "fans", I say FUCK THE LOT OF YOU! I hope the tour is blindingly successful and popular if for no other reason than to spite you all and rub your smug, self-righteous and holier-than-thou faces in it! HA!Good post, except for the following stepford quote: "Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating" Am I not a real fan if I think Flash Gordon or Hot Space is subpar? What if I dislike the Pepsi commercial or 5ive etc etc. Must I blindfully accept everything Queen does as being perfect? What is wrong with expressing a critical opinion? By the way, I do plan on seeing Queen if the come to North America. |
| Benja 31.03.2005 01:26 |
One thing is to be a FAN and other thing is to be Fundamentalist about something. I think PR is a very good singer, not in my top list but just a very good singer, but i like the idea of Brian and Roger doing something and is their band so they can do it whith whoever they want to. |
| Serry... 31.03.2005 02:48 |
pastieman wrote: If I was God, then Freddie would still be with us. All I was trying to say was this, people need to move on and not live in the past for the rest of their days. Life goes on, we all need to move on, and not live in a time warp. This not only applies to our dear Freddie, but to anyone we have lost ( I lost my sister-in law last month, age 33, with 3 kids under 4 years old). We must never forget those we have lost, but we cant stay still forever, we all have to rebuild our lives and move on. We just dont need to here the same thing over and over again, its boring, and people get fed up of it. I am not trying to tell others what they should do, but its sad when some folk are so pig headed that they wont give anything new a chance, so miss out in the end and live to regret it.Sorry about your sister-in law :( Yes, I agree, but if some people wants to miss out and regret - let them do it. Don't waste your time! |
| turolf_70 31.03.2005 03:51 |
This tour is to much a Brian May solo tour and a C-version of the magic tour. Why can´t they play a medley like "ogre battle, white queen, tenement funster, save me, it´s late, sail a way sweet sister...and so on??? Why are they skip INNUENDO, one of the greatest song ever??? |
| ANAGRAMER 31.03.2005 04:09 |
It's only a bloody record...... |
| deleted user 31.03.2005 04:09 |
But heres something for you to think about, the symbol of Queen is mainly known as the pheonix isnt it? well Pheonix's never die(ish), when they do they are reborn from the ashes, so if you think, Queen, the main pheonix died in 1991, but the ashes from that pheonix gave birth to a new pheonix, that pheonix being QUEEN+PAUL ROGERS! so in a way Queen live on becos of that pheonix! |
| The Mir@cle 31.03.2005 04:15 |
I agree it's a shame Innuendo isn't brought into the set list. I think it's too hard for them to play that song at the moment. Maybe we can expect other songs during the summer concerts. |
| Sharon G. 31.03.2005 07:55 |
Queen without Freddie is like the Doors without Jim Morrison,the Stones without Mick, the Crickets without Buddy Holly. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP We love you and miss you. Best of luck to Paul Rodgers and Brian and Roger trying to re- capture some magic that is forever gone. gone. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.03.2005 09:25 |
Sharon G. wrote: Queen without Freddie is like the Doors without Jim Morrison,the Stones without Mick, the Crickets without Buddy Holly. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP We love you and miss you. Best of luck to Paul Rodgers and Brian and Roger trying to re- capture some magic that is forever gone. gone.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 31.03.2005 11:14 |
Sharon G. wrote: Queen without Freddie is like the Doors without Jim Morrison,the Stones without Mick, the Crickets without Buddy Holly. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP We love you and miss you. Best of luck to Paul Rodgers and Brian and Roger trying to re- capture some magic that is forever gone. gone.Oh gawd ... the melodrama ... Go out, see the show, have a good time. That's all its about. Its not the fucking Second Coming. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 31.03.2005 11:23 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote:Your mistake is equating "being supportive" with "blindfully accept everything Queen does as being perfect". That's YOUR spin, not mine, and there's an ocean of difference between the two. You conveniently neglected to mention or acknowledge that I also said in the very same text you quoted "you don't have to like or agree with everything they do", because you either didn't read it or it got in the way of tarring me with that tired old "stepford" brush. Sticks and stones. I'm not crazy about every decision made by or regarding Queen since 1973, but I'm damn well not out there wishing FAILURE on them either. THAT'S what I was talking about, and I think its fairly evident to anyone that paid attention to what I said. You just jumped the gun on me, Rip, perhaps because you're sensitive to being criticized for your own frequent criticism of the band over the years? I don't know. Maybe get your bifocals checked, Rip, or rub the sleep out of your eyes (assuming you've wakened from that 20 year nap).Ray D O'Gaga wrote: Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating and being a fan CERTAINLY means at the VERY LEAST not WISHING and HOPING for the tour to be a FAILURE and practically SALIVATING WITH DELIGHT when the Fancourt show turned out to be less than spectacular. And I have seen MANY on this board doing just that over the last two weeks. Not everyone but many (and not necessarily you). Regardless of whether or not Freddie was your favorite, regardles of how much you like or dislike Paul Rodgers, regardless of whatever personal grudge you hold against Brian May for whatever perceived greed/arrogance/whatever you see in him, a TRUE FAN does not wish ABJECT FAILURE for the band or the remnants of the band they claim to love. "If they don't do it MY WAY, I hope they FAIL!" BOLLOCKS! You don't have to like or agree with everything they do, but that is going way too far for anyone to call themselves a fan. To THAT group of "fans", I say FUCK THE LOT OF YOU! I hope the tour is blindingly successful and popular if for no other reason than to spite you all and rub your smug, self-righteous and holier-than-thou faces in it! HA!Good post, except for the following stepford quote: "Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating" Am I not a real fan if I think Flash Gordon or Hot Space is subpar? What if I dislike the Pepsi commercial or 5ive etc etc. Must I blindfully accept everything Queen does as being perfect? What is wrong with expressing a critical opinion? |
| Megamike The GREAT 31.03.2005 17:43 |
Well.. I just want to offer THIS backstage chat between Brian and crew: Paul: WOW... I DID IT.. I REALLY DID IT.. Brian: umm.. yeah you did it, with the help of the backing tape we hid in your mic.. it cancelled out YOUR vocals and put the correct ones in.. I am pretty impressed.. Deaky built it for Freddie years ago.. Roger: Hahaha, I remember that, GOD, Freddie couldn't sing to save his life.. John was the real vocalist in Queen.. so he built that gadget and POW.. Freddie was a hit.. Paul: Man.. I wish I had this in my old band.. this thing rocks.. Brian: well.. just don't get cocky.. you STILL have to make it look like you are singing.. if you want proof of how it works just look at the "Kller Queen" on the We Will Rock You concert.. Freddie missed his cue but it STILL gave his voice.. boy we had a LOT of explaining to do then.. good thing the next night he hit his mark.. Jamie: Hey Bri.. can I get one for MY guitar playing? Brian: no.. so far the only version we have is this mic.. So there you have it.. he just lip synched. |
| Oberon62AU 31.03.2005 23:17 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Good post, except for the following stepford quote: "Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating" Am I not a real fan if I think Flash Gordon or Hot Space is subpar? What if I dislike the Pepsi commercial or 5ive etc etc. Must I blindfully accept everything Queen does as being perfect? What is wrong with expressing a critical opinion? By the way, I do plan on seeing Queen if the come to North America.No... I think you can easily be a real fan, be supportive of the band in a general sense, and still voice criticism and opinion in a positive way. If you dont like Hot Space for example, youre perfectly entitled, and of course it doesnt mean youre not a Queen fan. Same with any of the other examples you mentioned. Even disliking this tour is fine. Expressing an opinion is fine.. its part of what makes boards like this work. On the otherhand, people like Poodlehead, dont express opinions. They state them as fact and deny anyone else a right to their opinion. If THEY think that Queen is dead [even tho Queen would dispute that!]... well thats okay I guess. Telling us that Queen ARE dead regardless of our opinions - or Brian, Roger or John's opinions- is NOT okay. Insisting that we cant be "true" fans - obviously only the True Keepers Of the Faith get to decide who is a "true" fan... shades of the Inquisition - is NOT okay. Personally I dont think Freddie would have any time at all for being worshipped in this embalmed and deified way at all. Personally I think Freddie would be happy for Brian and Roger to continue making music as Queen, in much the same way as he obviously wanted them to make MADE IN HEAVEN. I think Brian and Roger have a much greater idea of what Freddie would like than any of us. So... thats _my_ opinion :) I hope I get the chance to see Queen on this tour. It would be wonderful. Cheers Steve |
| FairyKing 01.04.2005 00:39 |
Sharon G. wrote: Queen without Freddie is like the Doors without Jim Morrison,the Stones without Mick, the Crickets without Buddy Holly. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP We love you and miss you. Best of luck to Paul Rodgers and Brian and Roger trying to re- capture some magic that is forever gone. gone.Queen were the greatest band IMO. Queen without Freddie (or, let's say Brian + Roger) are a great band anyway. So, nobody will steal us our old queen records but 'life goes on' (poison!) and this is a great band who still gives thrills. I'm glad you live in the past. i enjoy the same records you still listen to, but i'll have a great time in rome. You'll be wondering what you'll be missing. I won't. It's better to try and then regret than stayin' in a corner bein' afraid or negative doin' nothing. |
| Saint Jiub 01.04.2005 02:36 |
Oberon62AU wrote:We are getting shades of the Inquisition from both extremes of Queen fans that want to decide who is a true fan: Poodle and Ray. Isn't it not a bit over the top to decide that Poodle is not a "true" fan because of his beliefs?Rip Van Winkle wrote: Good post, except for the following stepford quote: "Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating" Am I not a real fan if I think Flash Gordon or Hot Space is subpar? What if I dislike the Pepsi commercial or 5ive etc etc. Must I blindfully accept everything Queen does as being perfect? What is wrong with expressing a critical opinion? By the way, I do plan on seeing Queen if the come to North America.No... I think you can easily be a real fan, be supportive of the band in a general sense, and still voice criticism and opinion in a positive way. If you dont like Hot Space for example, youre perfectly entitled, and of course it doesnt mean youre not a Queen fan. Same with any of the other examples you mentioned. Even disliking this tour is fine. Expressing an opinion is fine.. its part of what makes boards like this work. On the otherhand, people like Poodlehead, dont express opinions. They state them as fact and deny anyone else a right to their opinion. If THEY think that Queen is dead [even tho Queen would dispute that!]... well thats okay I guess. Telling us that Queen ARE dead regardless of our opinions - or Brian, Roger or John's opinions- is NOT okay. Insisting that we cant be "true" fans - obviously only the True Keepers Of the Faith get to decide who is a "true" fan... shades of the Inquisition - is NOT okay. Ray says its ok to have doubts about Queen, but he tends to get upset whenever negative opinions about Queen are expressed. I suppose I should not have labeled him as a stepford, but it is so much fun ... he always bites. I only occasionally refer to him or one other Queenzoner as a stepford. Ray should feel honored to be amongst such exclusive company. |
| JohnC 01.04.2005 09:56 |
Sharon G. wrote: Queen without Freddie is like the Doors without Jim Morrison,the Stones without Mick, the Crickets without Buddy Holly. Freddie 1991 RIP Queen 1991 RIP We love you and miss you. Best of luck to Paul Rodgers and Brian and Roger trying to re- capture some magic that is forever gone. gone.Totally right. I'm here and still bashing on that piece of crap that is not Queen. Queen: 1971-1991. |
| FairyKing 01.04.2005 09:59 |
Totally right. I'm here and still bashing on that piece of crap that is not Queen. Queen: 1971-1991.totally LEFT for me... |
| Ray D O'Gaga 01.04.2005 12:44 |
Ray says its ok to have doubts about Queen, but he tends to get upset whenever negative opinions about Queen are expressed. I suppose I should not have labeled him as a stepford, but it is so much fun ... he always bites. I only occasionally refer to him or one other Queenzoner as a stepford. Ray should feel honored to be amongst such exclusive company.Sticks and stones. Your opinion of me matters about as much to me as your opinion of everything else. And since you apparently like things spelled out very clearly, that is n-o-t a-t a-l-l. If you enjoy labeling me a stepford, knock yourself out. I will continue to refer to you as what you are, which is a soreheaded old crank. This way, we're both happy. And thanks for the roundabout admission that you were wrong. It was delightful. |
| wstüssyb 01.04.2005 12:50 |
So it's not Queen, Every one who is a fan knows Freddie died, We all know what Queen + Paul Rogers has to offer, no one is buying tickets to this thing knowing that it is what it was in 1986 and Pre. This Queen + Paul Rogers is making some Queen fans become fans of Paul and Vice versa. We can't Bring Freddie back to life, but does that mean that Brian and Roger cannot simply do the things that they like doing? they are too old to go and start a new band, They spent most of thier lives around the Queen name, It gives them every single right to use this name, no one is bening short changed here by going to the show, becuase every one knows what is going on. |
| deleted user 01.04.2005 18:10 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote: Being a fan means being supportive of the band - or in this case, what's left of the band - even though your favorite member is dead or not participating and being a fan CERTAINLY means at the VERY LEAST not WISHING and HOPING for the tour to be a FAILURE and practically SALIVATING WITH DELIGHT when the Fancourt show turned out to be less than spectacular. And I have seen MANY on this board doing just that over the last two weeks. Not everyone but many (and not necessarily you). Regardless of whether or not Freddie was your favorite, regardles of how much you like or dislike Paul Rodgers, regardless of whatever personal grudge you hold against Brian May for whatever perceived greed/arrogance/whatever you see in him, a TRUE FAN does not wish ABJECT FAILURE for the band or the remnants of the band they claim to love. "If they don't do it MY WAY, I hope they FAIL!" BOLLOCKS! You don't have to like or agree with everything they do, but that is going way too far for anyone to call themselves a fan. To THAT group of "fans", I say FUCK THE LOT OF YOU! I hope the tour is blindingly successful and popular if for no other reason than to spite you all and rub your smug, self-righteous and holier-than-thou faces in it! HA!Queen is over since 1991 - face it, my god!!! I would have done anything to support Freddie, Brian, Roger and John... but I'm not supporting two former rock stars who cannot admit that Queen is gone (although they were not able to produce any new "Queen" material since MIH in 1995). So if they are "Queen" now, where is the new album, ha???? |
| L-R-TIGER1994 01.04.2005 20:38 |
Agree with Sharon and John,the fact that we are Queen fans does not mean that we ALL must love this kinda...hmmm.....let see,new Queen,if you like it,go and see the show and have a good time,I wouldn't pay a cent for it,and I am NOT a negative person(nor a bloody moaner as I saw somewhere),I respect other people's opinion,you have to respect our point of view,I DON'T like Paul Rodgers!!!!!. |
| JohnC 01.04.2005 21:51 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Agree with Sharon and John,the fact that we are Queen fans does not mean that we ALL must love this kinda...hmmm.....let see,new Queen,if you like it,go and see the show and have a good time,I wouldn't pay a cent for it,and I am NOT a negative person(nor a bloody moaner as I saw somewhere),I respect other people's opinion,you have to respect our point of view,I DON'T like Paul Rodgers!!!!!.That's right. Because we don't like that pathetic reconstitution of Queen and that we are not that desparated, we are called negative. But you are the losers... |
| Knute 02.04.2005 00:26 |
JohnC wrote:They're calling you negative John C?L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Agree with Sharon and John,the fact that we are Queen fans does not mean that we ALL must love this kinda...hmmm.....let see,new Queen,if you like it,go and see the show and have a good time,I wouldn't pay a cent for it,and I am NOT a negative person(nor a bloody moaner as I saw somewhere),I respect other people's opinion,you have to respect our point of view,I DON'T like Paul Rodgers!!!!!.That's right. Because we don't like that pathetic reconstitution of Queen and that we are not that desparated, we are called negative. But you are the losers... How in the hell did they get that idea? From what I can tell, you have nothing but kind words for the folks of this site. Geez, that's like saying lyricalassasin is rude and vulgar. |
| Knute 02.04.2005 00:27 |
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| lyricalassasin77 02.04.2005 01:03 |
Hmmmmm lets see.........they played to 4,000 people?? What a comeback.........My backyard can hold more people than that.....Last time I checked Queen in there true form attracted 100,000 + at Knebworth in 86, wonder who was responsible for that?? I mean they are british and do belong to your country but you wait and see the wakeup call they get when they come to the states, that's even if there even brave enough to make the trip. All I can say is the musical scene overthere must be in a sorry shape if you go this nuts over a half rate tour. and all you stupid fuckers that are just waiting to leap at me and call me a "non" fan and whatever else you can conjure up can go right ahead cuz you all can kiss my white ass on the real.......Keep buying your tickets and wasting your money on the Brian May and Roger Taylor show.......just glad its not my money..........Peace out |
| TheProphet 02.04.2005 01:47 |
I don´t think your a non fan. But in the same time, I won´t agree whit you at all. I think this tour will be great, mainly because of the two queen members still performing and the queen songs they are going to perform. That´s more than an excellent reason to spend my money on them. Of course it is not going to be as good as queen were, but think about those young fans, like me, who have never seen queen live. Think about how great this will be to us, to see the greatest band on the earth one last time. And finally I think brixton was a great, but different open for the tour, and just for fans. The number of people is not the thing you should think of. Besides, they will play hyde park that will almoust match knebworth. And how many times was the "real" queen playing for audiences such as knebworth? Not many times I guess... So, do you still think I´m a idiot because I´m going to the tour? |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 02.04.2005 02:21 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: Hmmmmm lets see.........they played to 4,000 people?? What a comeback.........My backyard can hold more people than that.....Last time I checked Queen in there true form attracted 100,000 + at Knebworth in 86, wonder who was responsible for that?? I mean they are british and do belong to your country but you wait and see the wakeup call they get when they come to the states, that's even if there even brave enough to make the trip. All I can say is the musical scene overthere must be in a sorry shape if you go this nuts over a half rate tour. and all you stupid fuckers that are just waiting to leap at me and call me a "non" fan and whatever else you can conjure up can go right ahead cuz you all can kiss my white ass on the real.......Keep buying your tickets and wasting your money on the Brian May and Roger Taylor show.......just glad its not my money..........Peace outTotally agree this tour is a FARCE and ain't Queen. It's Brian + Roger and their new buddy Paul Rodgers. It may be a good show. BUT IT'S NOT QUEEN IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. I have heard the audio from the Brixton shows and it's bloody awful and embarrassing anybody who thinks Freddie would be impressed by this CARP is kidding themselves. QUEEN 1991 RIP. FREDDIE WE LOVE YOU ALWAYS WILL NEVER EVER EVER BE REPLACED. |
| pastieman 02.04.2005 05:25 |
Poodle, if you have heard the audio from Brixton, would you like to share it with us all, because there is none to date. So if you have heard audio, it is prob bad quality, so would sound bad. Dont judge what you aint seen. Funny, I thought I saw Roger and Brian in Queen, so how can it not be Queen in any shape way or form??????? You do type some crap sometimes. |
| Libor2 02.04.2005 05:48 |
I could understand somebody don't like idea of "new Queen". It's OK for me. But you two - L77 and BPP - are extraordinary unbelievable. |
| Knute 02.04.2005 07:22 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:Where did you hear the audio of Brixton?lyricalassasin_77 wrote: Hmmmmm lets see.........they played to 4,000 people?? What a comeback.........My backyard can hold more people than that.....Last time I checked Queen in there true form attracted 100,000 + at Knebworth in 86, wonder who was responsible for that?? I mean they are british and do belong to your country but you wait and see the wakeup call they get when they come to the states, that's even if there even brave enough to make the trip. All I can say is the musical scene overthere must be in a sorry shape if you go this nuts over a half rate tour. and all you stupid fuckers that are just waiting to leap at me and call me a "non" fan and whatever else you can conjure up can go right ahead cuz you all can kiss my white ass on the real.......Keep buying your tickets and wasting your money on the Brian May and Roger Taylor show.......just glad its not my money..........Peace outTotally agree this tour is a FARCE and ain't Queen. It's Brian + Roger and their new buddy Paul Rodgers. It may be a good show. BUT IT'S NOT QUEEN IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. I have heard the audio from the Brixton shows and it's bloody awful and embarrassing anybody who thinks Freddie would be impressed by this CARP is kidding themselves. QUEEN 1991 RIP. FREDDIE WE LOVE YOU ALWAYS WILL NEVER EVER EVER BE REPLACED. Or are you just making shit up. Because as far as I know there is no audio of Brixton other than that quick video piece on Reuters Oh, and there is that BoRap clip on wegotit's site, but the audio on that is so brutal, it's unlistenable. The bass frequencies distort like mad. What that person used to film it wasn't up to par. |
| Knute 02.04.2005 07:53 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: Hmmmmm lets see.........they played to 4,000 people?? What a comeback.........My backyard can hold more people than that.....Last time I checked Queen in there true form attracted 100,000 + at Knebworth in 86, wonder who was responsible for that?? I mean they are british and do belong to your country but you wait and see the wakeup call they get when they come to the states, that's even if there even brave enough to make the trip. All I can say is the musical scene overthere must be in a sorry shape if you go this nuts over a half rate tour. and all you stupid fuckers that are just waiting to leap at me and call me a "non" fan and whatever else you can conjure up can go right ahead cuz you all can kiss my white ass on the real.......Keep buying your tickets and wasting your money on the Brian May and Roger Taylor show.......just glad its not my money..........Peace outHey you want to make a bet that if they come to the states the tour will be a success. I'll put down $55(about the price of a ticket) that says the tour will be a success. We'll have to agree to the guidelines. I have a Pay Pal account so we can transfer the money that way. So how about it? You ready to put your money where your mouth is? Im going to crash out now, and when I wake up I'll see if you have responded. |
| deleted user 02.04.2005 09:34 |
Good post, Steve. And for once in my life, I agree with William. Although it feels so wrong. ;^) |
| uglygeek 02.04.2005 11:46 |
Well, I was at the Paris gig, and it was really great. I'll be in Milan, too... I think everyone can have his opinion about this tour, you can like it or not, but it's a mistake to confond Queen with Freddie Mercury. Queen was not only Mercury, Mercury was not the whole of Queen. It's not the same thing without him? Of course, it's not. Can Paul Rodgers replace him? Of course he can't. Nobody might, and he's maybe not even the best choice (Tony Vincent maybe would have fitted better in that role). But what were Brian and Roger supposed to do after Freddie's death? To kill themselves? To retire? Why can't they go on playing their songs? After all, Paul McCartney is still touring singing Beatles' songs, and yet there are only two Beatles left, and nobody criticizes him for this. And if you think about it, while the duo McCartney/Lennon wrote almost all of the Beatles' songs, in the Queen the production was much more fairly subdivided between the four members. I'd say that in the 70's Mercury (mainly) and May were the main creative forces in the group, but in the 80's May, Taylor and Deacon were even more productive and creative than Mercury himself. Don't the song authors deserve credit for their creativity? Does really only the singer and frontman matter? What is it that makes great a group, only the image and the voice or even the music? So, should have May or Taylor died in 1991, and should now Mercury and Deacon be touring as Queen, how would you react? Would you be so critic and negative in the same way? |
| Negative Creep 02.04.2005 12:09 |
"What are Brian & Roger supposed to do?" They apparently love playing so much...they could do that without out relying on past glories. Instead, they wanna make some quick dough, so they put together a tour under the name of their old band knowing that more people will buy tickets, purely because of the name. Coming out of Brixton, many people appeared dissatisfied with the performance - many people commenting on Rodgers performance, Roger really struggling - he barely played any of his trademark fills... most people however don't post on Queen forums, so... |
| L-R-TIGER1994 02.04.2005 12:14 |
why starting stupid posts like this?if you go to the concert or like it,it's ok,enjoy it and leave the forum in peace. |
| Negative Creep 02.04.2005 12:21 |
??? So, people are entitled to praise the gig/s, but people AREN'T entitled to criticise? Youve been reading Dr Mays Soapbox too long mate. |
| uglygeek 02.04.2005 12:23 |
"they could do that without out relying on past glories" So, following your reasoning, if Freddie were alive and Brian dead, Freddie could not sing Queen songs anymore? I doubt it. Well, it's normal than 50 years old rockers propose success from their past, they can't be so creative anymore. But there are many people, like me, that have never had the chance to see Queen live when Freddie was alive, and if Brian and Roger still feel like playing, they have all the rights to do so. I don't think it is for money, neither. Frankly, I don't think May and Taylor are broken... :-) |
| Negative Creep 02.04.2005 12:30 |
They could quite easily continue releasing solo albums every 4 years or so years and play the venues that they are able to sell out using their own names. I doubt Freddie would have continued Queen without any one of the other band members. I don't see Ringo & Paul McCartney touring under the name The Beatles with, I don't know, the singer of Hermans Hermits do you? |
| uglygeek 02.04.2005 12:34 |
McCartney can tour with HIS name, but if he mostly sings Beatles song (as he does), where is the difference? After all, had they announced a May+Taylor+Rodgers tour, wouldn't it have been the same? Nobody goes to these gigs expecting to find Mercury and Deacon!!! |
| Negative Creep 02.04.2005 12:38 |
If the tour had been called "Brian May, Roger Taylor & Paul Rodgers", most people wouldn't even know about it - and they know that, but it would have given the tour a lot more credibility. Paul McCartney does tour under his own name and does sing Beatles songs - yes. and?? He doesn't tour using the name of his old band. |
| uglygeek 02.04.2005 12:52 |
A name is only a name, people know what to expect. Besides, I repeat, Queen were not only Freddie and Freddie was not the whole of Queen. |
| doremi 02.04.2005 13:07 |
Negative Creep wrote: If the tour had been called "Brian May, Roger Taylor & Paul Rodgers", most people wouldn't even know about it - and they know that, but it would have given the tour a lot more credibility. Paul McCartney does tour under his own name and does sing Beatles songs - yes. and?? He doesn't tour using the name of his old band.Thank you. Finally someone who brought this FACT up and realizes it. |
| doremi 02.04.2005 13:11 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: Hmmmmm lets see.........they played to 4,000 people?? What a comeback.........My backyard can hold more people than that.....Last time I checked Queen in there true form attracted 100,000 + at Knebworth in 86, wonder who was responsible for that?? I mean they are british and do belong to your country but you wait and see the wakeup call they get when they come to the states, that's even if there even brave enough to make the trip. All I can say is the musical scene overthere must be in a sorry shape if you go this nuts over a half rate tour. and all you stupid fuckers that are just waiting to leap at me and call me a "non" fan and whatever else you can conjure up can go right ahead cuz you all can kiss my white ass on the real.......Keep buying your tickets and wasting your money on the Brian May and Roger Taylor show.......just glad its not my money..........Peace outA Little extreme, but I agree with most of what you said. Again, I would be happy to see Roger & Brian tour themselves and sing Queen & solo stuff WITHOUT using the Queen banner, or with John along. But geez, I heard the Brixton audio and I agree the sound quality was probably bad due to the idiot reporter that recorded it for Reuters...but I heard Fancourt and Brixton as well and I just do NOT care for Paul Rodgers. Whe Brian and Roger perform, I'm fine...but I cannot swallow Paul Rodgers...if I do..I'll need an alka seltzer. UGH! |
| pastieman 02.04.2005 13:43 |
Negative Creep Wrote "Coming out of Brixton, many people appeared dissatisfied with the performance - many people commenting on Rodgers performance, Roger really struggling - he barely played any of his trademark fills... most people however don't post on Queen forums, so... " Sure you were at Brixton and not Brixham? Everybody seemed very happy from what I saw after the show. As I have already said, there is no audio from this gig, apart from news reels, so how the hell can those that did not go to the show comment on the sound, Roger or any of the band.? |
| Steve P 02.04.2005 13:55 |
Negative Creep wrote: They could quite easily continue releasing solo albums every 4 years or so years and play the venues that they are able to sell out using their own names. I doubt Freddie would have continued Queen without any one of the other band members. I don't see Ringo & Paul McCartney touring under the name The Beatles with, I don't know, the singer of Hermans Hermits do you?Peter Noone, he left HH in 1971, and the remaining band still tour today ----- Oooops !!!! |
| Steve P 02.04.2005 14:12 |
Negative Creep wrote: Paul McCartney does tour under his own name and does sing Beatles songs - yes. and?? He doesn't tour using the name of his old band.Perhaps the fact that:... a) McCartney took out a lawsuit against the other three members to disband the Beatles b)The whole issue of Apple Corps became one of the biggest legal battles in entertainment history .. may well have something to do with him not using the name of the Beatles as well .... |
| jeff payne 1680 02.04.2005 14:26 |
pastieman wrote: Negative Creep Wrote "Coming out of Brixton, many people appeared dissatisfied with the performance - many people commenting on Rodgers performance, Roger really struggling - he barely played any of his trademark fills... most people however don't post on Queen forums, so... " Sure you were at Brixton and not Brixham? Everybody seemed very happy from what I saw after the show. As I have already said, there is no audio from this gig, apart from news reels, so how the hell can those that did not go to the show comment on the sound, Roger or any of the band.?Well the dozen or so people i spoke to after Brixton were blown away Mr Rodgers Vocals, Brians Guitar and Rogers Drumming one word AWESOME and yes i SAW QUEEN WITH FREDDIE SEVERAL TIMES |