PhoenixRising 28.03.2005 18:49 |
So... let the world know what you thought of the first Queen show! |
Haystacks Calhoun 28.03.2005 18:52 |
Set list in no order Bo rap Im in love with my car love of my life 39 Tie your mother down we will rock you we are the champions fat bottemed girls crazy little thing called love hammer to fall radio ga ga want to break free kind of magic i want it all days of our lives show must go on lost horizon seagull feel like making love all right now cant get enough of your love 1 more paul rogers song i do not know |
miffomojen 28.03.2005 18:58 |
Thanks for posting! |
eggy 28.03.2005 18:59 |
for now, i quickly added some pics here: link they quality is heavily reduced as i wanted to get 10 pics done in 5 mins not 1 in 10 and i've not cropped any of them as i'm just knackered. Barbara will have a lot better pictures when she gets back tomorrow The gig was great. LOML was awesome, i'll post more tomorrow. Really need sleep before work in 6 hours. |
hcrvelin 28.03.2005 19:05 |
Thanks eggy! Wow, Paul really seems to be in a good shape. |
Steve P 28.03.2005 19:05 |
Thanks for the review, setlist, and pics folks. You have made an "Old Rocker" very happy. Sounds like they certainly "Rocked You" .... Cheers |
Maz 28.03.2005 19:10 |
Thanks, eggy. Just remind not to sit in front of you when you try to take pictures :) |
doremi 28.03.2005 19:10 |
eggy wrote: for now, i quickly added some pics here: link they quality is heavily reduced as i wanted to get 10 pics done in 5 mins not 1 in 10 and i've not cropped any of them as i'm just knackered. Barbara will have a lot better pictures when she gets back tomorrow The gig was great. LOML was awesome, i'll post more tomorrow. Really need sleep before work in 6 hours.Thanks for the Great pics for this fan stranded in the USA! Check out Paul Rodgers in leather pants! Brian looks great! And yes Our man Roger looks Great! (much better than at fancourt) You can see his gorgeous blond hair. Setlist sounds good! I am SO happy they did LOML..my all time favorite song by Freddie and done in concert! So you say it was awesome! Well that's awesome to hear!!!! |
The Stealer 28.03.2005 19:12 |
Thanks for the photos and information |
Two Sharp Pencils 28.03.2005 19:13 |
Thanks, great pics! |
Haystacks Calhoun 28.03.2005 19:14 |
I was lucky enough to be at Brixton tonight and on the whole it was a great show. Paul Rodgers impressed vocally and he didn't have any trouble remembering the words to the Queen songs. The show had a bit of a weird beginning - a curtain covered the stage and you could hear bits of Track13 from Made In Heaven playing. Then suddenly after about 10 minutes it stopped and "Lose Yourself" by Emienem started to play?!? Then Paul came out from behind the curtian and gave a bit of improv before Brian started to play Tie Your Mother Down as the curtain opened. more to follow... Other Queen songs performed tonight, in no particular order; I Want To Break Free - Paul didn't need to sing this as the crowd completely took over! Fat Bottomed Girls - excellent performance by band. Hammer To Fall (Slow/Fast) - vocal shared by Brian + Paul Crazy Little Thing Called Love' '39 - Not officially on the Set list but Brian played the opening few chords and the crowd took over and sang the rest of it. Love Of My Life - Beautiful rendition of this song, Brian sat on a stool in the centre of the stage..next to him was an empty stool. (Paul Rodgers did not sing this song) Days Of Our Lives - Great performance by Roger, video screen behind showed clips of Queen in their early years - very poigniant. I Want It All - Brian on vocals...however this song was crying out for Paul Rodgers on vocals...i can't understand why he didn't do it. A Kind Of Magic - Bohemian Rhapsody - Band played along to video screen of Freddie at Wembley 86 for the first verse. For the opera section the band left the stage and the video screen played clips of Freddie and a few of John. Paul Rodgers sang the final part of the song. Radio Ga Ga - Roger started singing this track to a drum backing track, Paul came out and sang the last verse (Paul should have sang the whole song as it sounded much better with Roger playing real drums on it.) I'm In Love With My Car - Roger sang the whole song and played drums...the man still has it! The Show Must Go On We Will Rock You We Are The Champions Brian's guitar playing on Feel Like Makin Love and All Right Now was fantastic, those tracks rocked! Brian also played a 10 minute solo which included snippets of Keep Yourself Alive, Brighton Rock, Chinese Torture and finished with Last Horizon. |
All Star 28.03.2005 19:15 |
I was lucky enough to be at Brixton tonight and on the whole it was a great show. Paul Rodgers impressed vocally and he didn't have any trouble remembering the words to the Queen songs. The show had a bit of a weird beginning - a curtain covered the stage and you could hear bits of Track13 from Made In Heaven playing. Then suddenly after about 10 minutes it stopped and "Lose Yourself" by Emienem started to play?!? Then Paul came out from behind the curtian and gave a bit of improv before Brian started to play Tie Your Mother Down as the curtain opened. Other Queen songs performed tonight, in no particular order; I Want To Break Free - Paul didn't need to sing this as the crowd completely took over! Fat Bottomed Girls - excellant performance by band. Hammer To Fall (Slow/Fast) - vocal shared by Brian + Paul Crazy Little Thing Called Love' '39 - Not officially on the Set list but Brian played the opening few chords and the crowd took over and sang the rest of it. Love Of My Life - Beautiful rendition of this song, Brian sat on a stool in the centre of the stage..next to him was an empty stool. (Paul Rodgers did not sing this song) Days Of Our Lives - Great performance by Roger, video screen behind showed clips of Queen in their early years - very poigniant. I Want It All - Brian on vocals...however this song was crying out for Paul Rodgers on vocals...i can't understand why he didn't do it. A Kind Of Magic - Bohemian Rhapsody - Band played along to video screen of Freddie at Wembley 86 for the first verse. For the opera section the band left the stage and the video screen played clips of Freddie and a few of John. Paul Rodgers sang the final part of the song. Radio Ga Ga - Roger started singing this track to a drum backing track, Paul came out and sang the last verse (Paul should have sang the whole song as it sounded much better with Roger playing real drums on it.) I'm In Love With My Car - Roger sang the whole song and played drums...the man still has it! The Show Must Go On We Will Rock You We Are The Champions Brian's guitar playing on Feel Like Makin Love and All Right Now was fantastic, those tracks rocked! Brian also played a 10 minute solo which included snippets of Keep Yourself Alive, Brighton Rock, Chinese Torture and finished with Last Horizon. |
doremi 28.03.2005 19:22 |
Love Of My Life - Beautiful rendition of this song, Brian sat on a stool in the centre of the stage..next to him was an empty stool. (Paul Rodgers did not sing this song) I am VERY glad that Paul, Brian & Roger performed this, my VERY favorite song tied with TATDOOL in this manner. This will....always be...Freddie's love song..to..his fans..and his most beautifully written song. I wouldn't have it any other way and I'm very happy that the guys recognized how to treat this song. Days Of Our Lives - Great performance by Roger, video screen behind showed clips of Queen in their early years - very poigniant. Same thing, sounds like the band took my favorite song...and aced it. Roger wrote it..so he deserves the honors of singing it in Freddie's stead. Excellent artistic and sentimental touch showing clips of Queen' earlier days behind Roger and the band. Wish I had been there. |
All Star 28.03.2005 19:23 |
Following on from my review above; Great show, i thought the setlist was a bit erratic and didn't flow as well as it could have done. Paul Rodgers impressed vocally but needs to be on stage more - he should really have performed both Radio Ga Ga and I Want It All. The band seemed on good form, Brian's guitar work on Magic, All Right Now, Feel Like Makin Love, and Rock You was top notch. Roger proved he can still drum AND sing for a whole show. They need to work on the beginning of the show the crowd got a bit restless during Track 13...i don't know if they had technical problems but this went on for too long. Perhaps it would have been better to start with a track like Breakthru' before going into Tie Your Mother Down. I would have loved to have heard Innuendo live, but it wasn't played...perhaps later in the tour?? |
The Stealer 28.03.2005 19:38 |
This all sounds great..I have wait another month to see this ;-( I hope more obscure songs will emerge..I am surprised they did love of my life-glad to see that. Brian vocals on I want it all? I think PR would be better. Brian solos sounded like they were GREAT...Lost Horizon!! I have only seen that live once before..looking forward that. I am really glad to see from the photos posted that Jamie, Spike and the bass player are in the backgound...nothing worse than Jamie blocking my views of Roger and Brian!!! |
wstüssyb 28.03.2005 19:43 |
For some reason I cannot access that Link Eggy gave, is there another linky with pic's? |
deleted user 28.03.2005 19:53 |
So what did you think ? I thought the guys played safe with a basic set though I'm In Love With My Car was a very pleasant surprise. Thoroughly enjoyed the BM roadshow for 15 mins and letting the Freddie footage lead Boh Rhap was wonderful. All Right Now by Rogers went down a storm but the karaoke style backing tracks for Rogers Gaga stuck in my throat a little. Don't get me wrong, loved the show but looking forward to some braver tracks possibly within the rest of the tour. |
Mr Mercury 28.03.2005 19:54 |
wstüssyb wrote: For some reason I cannot access that Link Eggy gave, is there another linky with pic's?Neither can I see the pics :( |
queenie1982 28.03.2005 19:55 |
It sounds great!! I've been waiting all night for the reviews!!! I can't wait for the Madrid show!! Just 4 days...!! Thank you to all those who shared your experience tonight at Brixton!! Take care! |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 28.03.2005 19:57 |
Thanks to all of you for the reviews! :) Cheers, Ogre- |
All Star 28.03.2005 20:01 |
Queen never got to tour with the material from the Miracle or Innuendo therefore i'm a little disappointed that only three tracks from these albums made it onto the live set. Don't get me wrong the songs they played on the night were great and went down a storm, but hopefully a couple of newer tracks creep onto the setlist - they should be looking to play; Breakthru' / Headlong / Innuendo / Too Much Love Will Kill You. |
inu-liger 28.03.2005 20:09 |
As to Eggy's pics, copy and paste the whole link. For some odd reason, the = at the end of his link is not highlighted. So you have to copy and paste again the whole link, including the = link |
Two Sharp Pencils 28.03.2005 20:12 |
Two things: No NOBY or AOBTD - It amazes me! Even if it´s one of my fav Bri tracks, if find it a bit "wrong" that Brian plays Last Horizon. It´s a solo track and Queen had NEVER performed a solo track... I also don´t like the fact that Btian sings IWIA... why would he do this having PR? |
inu-liger 28.03.2005 20:12 |
Check out the skin cover on the bass drum! Nice design! (Even though it's just text) |
deleted user 28.03.2005 20:22 |
Sounds like a great show! My sister and I are hopeful that we'll get to experience this, too. :^) |
wstüssyb 28.03.2005 20:55 |
Son of a Bitch, that linky still don't work. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 28.03.2005 21:06 |
I'm so sorry something's wrong with Eggy's pics link. They are wonderful! I saw them all, but donwloaded only my fave one, which I have put up for you: link Cheers, Ogre- Edit: if you get a 403 error, just hit refresh as many times as necessary. Sorry about that. |
bill_lbk 28.03.2005 21:13 |
Fantastic show, better than I dared to hope after 46664 webcast. Bo Rap & LOML were both done perfectly (didn't want to see Paul singing LOML, the crowd & Brian do it best) opening track was 'reaching out' from Rock Therepy, always loved that song and great to hear Paul & Brian perform it. Cant wait 2 c it again in Manchester, Wembley and the HYDE PARK... c u all there |
deleted user 28.03.2005 21:13 |
For some reason I can't see the links either. |
boy of destiny 28.03.2005 21:45 |
Not to sound negative, but the setlist sounds a bit predictable. Where's "It's Late","Sleeping On The Sidewalk", "Heaven For Everyone" and "Dragon Attack"? Did Brian not read my email, WTF???! |
Mr.Jingles 28.03.2005 21:58 |
boy of destiny wrote: Not to sound negative, but the setlist sounds a bit predictable. Where's "It's Late","Sleeping On The Sidewalk", "Heaven For Everyone" and "Dragon Attack"? Did Brian not read my email, WTF???!I don't think they would play any of those, and they wouldn't be too exciting to hear. However, "It's Late" would totally KICK ASS if they played it. |
TarHeelDDS2005 28.03.2005 22:14 |
Any particular reason why I can't pull up this webpage? It doesn't work. |
boy of destiny 28.03.2005 23:09 |
Mr Jingles wrote: I don't think they would play any of those, and they wouldn't be too exciting to hear I'm pretty sure "FANS" would want to hear them. Hopefully they'll mix up a bit on tour. There's nothing worse than just playing the hits. Have some fun out there and take some chances. You're right though, "It's Late" would rock. |
Daburcor? 28.03.2005 23:16 |
<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: For some reason I can't see the links either.Nor can I. |
Maz 28.03.2005 23:39 |
It worked for me earlier, but won't now. I'm guessing the lurkers killed eggy's link. If you really want them, and if eggy doesn't get them up anytime soon, I can email them. |
caviar 28.03.2005 23:45 |
The point of this tour shouldn't be IMHO to repeat 1986's tour. There are so many live with The Works and a kind of magic. This tour is definitely for fans so they should play stuff fans do not usually hear from them, such as It's Late, Breakthrough, Don't try suicide and so on. Why to play again and again CLTCL, IWTBF, RadioGaGa and so on...Why don't they play stuff Freddie didn't use to sing? Because whoever sings will not sing like Freddie with Queen so better sing stuff we didn't hear before on Stage, such as All Dead from BM...Just a few thoughts. |
Grantcdn 28.03.2005 23:57 |
Sounds great!! Queen Rocks On!!! Can't wait till this tour hits Canada Really curious about how they did Radio GaGa though....I'm no fan of backing tracks.... Hope they play Innuendo at other shows... Queen Rules!! |
Grantcdn 29.03.2005 00:02 |
Just saw some of the other posts....yes "It's Late" would Rock especially with Paul's voice...I put that on his website too....Breakthru would be another good one...Sleeping on the sidewalk is another they could do since Brian did that himself in LA...I'd like to hear Scandal/Innuendo/Headlong too....Bijou should become part of that guitar solo....of course I'm dreaming if I ask for Sail Away Sweet Sister..... |
inu-liger 29.03.2005 00:08 |
I saved Eggy's pictures, and fixed the sideways ones in the process, so I will upload them in a bit, for those who haven't been able to see them. |
inu-liger 29.03.2005 00:19 |
link Here are Eggy's pictures re-posted (and some fixed again) |
inu-liger 29.03.2005 00:38 |
Ouch. Not even 20 minutes, and the page has "allocated" its data transfer |
Knute 29.03.2005 00:42 |
I would prefer more obscure songs myself All Dead, All Dead would be great Prophet Song would kick ass So would White Man and Dead on Time I won't even bother with Queen II material, since they ALWAYS neglect that record. But, I'm just glad they are out there playing. Who knows? Maybe we will get the odd tune now and then but I don't expect it. |
Richard Orchard 29.03.2005 00:48 |
If ever there was a concert that they were going to play "rare" tracks on, it was this one. Therefore, unlikely to be too many surprises. Queen aren't exactly known for "mixing it up" set list wise. |
Richard Orchard 29.03.2005 00:49 |
Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote: link Here are Eggy's pictures re-posted (and some fixed again)The site is out of bandwidth. Can you upload them to queenzone - send me an email and i will validate straight away. Richard |
Knute 29.03.2005 00:51 |
Richard Orchard wrote: If ever there was a concert that they were going to play "rare" tracks on, it was this one. Therefore, unlikely to be too many surprises. Queen aren't exactly known for "mixing it up" set list wise.You're right It would be nice if they took the Grateful Dead approach and mixed and matched 50+ songs, delivering a different set each night. But then again, they aren't the Dead. |
inu-liger 29.03.2005 01:08 |
Hey Richard, I uploaded 30 pictures from Brixton including Eggy's, and the rest which I "borrowed" from QOL |
Saint Jiub 29.03.2005 01:11 |
How many songs can Paul memorize the lyrics for? Maybe five more "obscure" songs if we are lucky? Is he to be expected to memorize multiple new songs that he probably has never heard before? |
Knute 29.03.2005 01:30 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: How many songs can Paul memorize the lyrics for? Maybe five more "obscure" songs if we are lucky? Is he to be expected to memorize multiple new songs that he probably has never heard before?Yeah, could you imagine the look on Paul face if Brian handed him Fairy Feller's Master Stroke lyrics and said " Hey Paul, we were think of busting this one out tonight. What do you think, mate?" |
Knute 29.03.2005 01:30 |
Queen Online has some great photos of the show up. |
POTUeditor 29.03.2005 01:31 |
Disappointing is the one word that sums it up for me. A Queen show was always extraordinary last night was distinctly ordinary. |
The Mir@cle 29.03.2005 01:31 |
It’s nice to read those positive critics. I hope the criticasters will shut their mouths now. And about the set list.... every single person has his own wishes. It’s impossible to satisfy everyone. I think it's an acceptable set list of songs. |
Richard Orchard 29.03.2005 01:45 |
I am validating the pic's that Dark via Eggy has posted. link Should start to show up in the next few minutes. Richard |
Richard Orchard 29.03.2005 01:51 |
pics are up now. |
caviar 29.03.2005 01:52 |
link |
Ahmed_H_Zahuna 29.03.2005 01:57 |
Hello you lucky british guys !! Let me tell you something... if Queen and Paul dare to play "The Prophet's Song"..... I will go swimming from Mexico to England just to hear that !! hahaha !!! Great to hear that it was a good concert. Cheerio !! Ahmed |
S@turn 29.03.2005 02:05 |
Wow, this is great to read that there are many GOOD reports now about the show, I did not expect other things but am glad that there are. I will add links, copy some pictures and share the reviews that I get from some of my friends (who dont post here or at QOL) in my msn group as well, feel free to join (or not) at link I am happy for all the people who were there, it sounds great and I can't wait for my own experiences! AND WHAT A GREAT SETLIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sat |
queenie1982 29.03.2005 03:08 |
I'm sure it was a great concert but I have to say I would expect some "non greatest hits stuff"...or more songs from The Miracle, Innuendo...mainly beacuse this tour is for fans (I think)...and we have all the albums, know the songs, I think everybody would be grateful if suddenly they have played "dragon attack", "keep yourself alive", "seven seas of Rhye"...or just "breakthru", "headlong"...I think the set is too like 86 tour...It's rare also they don't include "under pressure" (I really love it)...isn't it? Take care! |
eggy 29.03.2005 04:15 |
Now it's morning and I'm meant to be working but... If really was great. Before we all meet in the Pub. Martin and Jeroen left at about five to get a space. We stayed in before meeting an elusive member of the board. Then I showed Barbara and friends the wonder of cuisine English style, at a really greasy chicken place. Before walking past all of the queues and picking up our tickets at 19.01 hours! :) So we got a good place in front a railing near the front then waited and waited and another waited for good measure!! Playing the whole of track 13 was not an ideal start for me, as we all expected it as a brief intro but, no. Then Eminem!? and Lose Yourself. To be honest, at this point I was rather scared. I'm quite sure Paul did a brief intro to a song I can't remember/didn't recognise before TYMD started, I knew as soon as Brian started it was going to be great. I took pretty much all of my pics at this point. I wanted to get a few (even if they are shite) but didn't want to spend the whole gig taking pics! I Want To Break Free and Fat Bottomed Girls also came early on and were great. The audience seemed well up for it, which was good. Although it was a little tame. I guess I'm used to moshing around to Razorlight (yeah them!). However, there was lots of singing which I hope doesn't effect the quality of a recording being done near me! My highlight was the bit Brian did by himself. 39 which he said he wasn't going to do! Not sure about that bit myself, but it got a great reaction. Then Love of My Life, it's always great to hear your favourite songs live, and that's my favourite song ever, so I liked!! I quite liked they way all alternated singer and who was on stage to give them all a rest. Obviously a first proper gig for ages was going to take some out of them, but they coped well. Roger looked a lot better than in the pics from last week. Brian's guitar solo was good on a technical level, however I don't enjoy them so by the end I was ready for some proper music and not an instrumental. The rest of the gig was cool. I Want It All I liked, I did expect Paul to sing that though. Radio Ga Ga was good, apart from the annoying back drop of dolls (a bit ala We Will Rock You) doing all the hand claps. Bo Rhap was great, a real surprise to me, as I didn't expect them to play it. The Freddie part was cool, and glad to see they didn't forget John by at least including about 2 pictures of him!! I enjoyed Roger's solo part of These Are The Days, a great song, and one song I feel he does really well. I'm in Love With My Car was fantastic. Didn't know whether he could drum and sing at the same time for a whole song anymore - well he can! The Paul Rodgers/ Free/ Bad Company songs were alright, I knew the songs but don't particuarly like them, but they had a good feel live and Brian certainly adapted well to them. The encore was predictable but I guess we needed to hear WWRY/ WATC! All in all it was a jolly good night, up there with gig of the year and for an opening night was a real good show. I'd expect them to get better and better as the tour goes on and they get used to each other more. Paul had quite a good stage presence and Brian was on top form. They all seemed to really appreciate the reception they were given and I think pretty much all the audience went home very happy. That was certainly how I went home, and how the people talking on the tube were too. |
FairyKing 29.03.2005 04:16 |
queenie1982 wrote: I'm sure it was a great concert but I have to say I would expect some "non greatest hits stuff"...I think everybody would be grateful if suddenly they have played "seven seas of Rhye"...or just "breakthru", "headlong"It's rare also they don't include "under pressure" (I really love it)...isn't it? |
FairyKing 29.03.2005 04:17 |
ops..i forgot to write my comment... I agree with you man, but those are ALL Greatest Hits tracks!!! |
Holmsey 29.03.2005 05:12 |
Yes. Nothing from the first 3 albums...I suppose a predictable set .Would have liked a bit of ogre battle,But couldn´t see paul rodgers throwing flash bombs all over the stage somehow.Again would have prefered a harder 70´s sound.Dont get me wrong i had a great night, love of my life was just fabulous i found it very emotional.(They should of just let the audience sing all the songs) |
sbrown 29.03.2005 05:17 |
Just out of curiosity, Queenonline says that Show Must Go On was in the setlist, but no-one has mentioned it. Was it played? (or, has someone mentioned it and I missed it?) |
DragonOnMyBack 29.03.2005 05:20 |
The Show Must Go On was indeed in the setlist. It was the last song before they left the stage for the first time. Ie. before Feel Like Makin Love after Bo. Rhap. as per the queenonline set list. Very Good it was too. |
sbrown 29.03.2005 05:34 |
Cool. It's such a great song that it needs to be out there :) |
Voice of Reason 2018 29.03.2005 05:37 |
It was a good show. Better than I'd expected in some ways. There was a lot of stuff that didn't work for me though. At the moment that seems to be more prominent in my mind - I'm sure I'll feel more positive as the day goes on. Found myself singing and tapping my feet to 'Feel Like Making Love!' all morning! |
DragonOnMyBack 29.03.2005 05:38 |
I thought the concert was very good. Everybody in the crowd seem to enjoy it and get involved. Brian doing his acoustic bit on a stool was brillent and I have always enjoy his 10 minute Guitar Solos. In fact he stood out as the star of the show. He seemed to take the frontman role, even more than Paul. Paul was very good, no sign of the forgotten words seen at Fancourt. He appeared a lot more comfortable when singing his own songs but that is to be expected and he performed the queen songs pretty well. Roger looked a lot better than recent pictures have showen and I'm In Love With My Car was a particular highlight for me. I think there is room for a little improvement but I am sure that will come as the Tour progresses, after all it is the first full show since their respective solo tours. I thought the nods to Freddie and John were done well and fitted in nicely while not overshadowing Paul. There were a few tracks that I was hoping for that were not included, but maybe they will appear later in the Tour. I am not going to go through every song as this has been done already and I'm sure others will do this in the near future. But to sum up I thought it was great and am very much looking forward to Prague where I will be seeing them next. |
GreatKingSam 29.03.2005 05:44 |
i had my doubts reading peoples comments on this board in recent days, but i don't care what anyone else says, i thought Paul Rodgers was pretty damn good last night. he didnt try to immitate Freddie, he just was Paul Rodgers, and he pulled the Queen sonsg he sang off very well. hats off to him, and i'll see you boys again at Wembley Arena... |
wegotit 29.03.2005 05:56 |
Show was Great - the setlist not so much Reachin Out is not the perfect opening at all (PR solo acoustic), Bo Rhap was also very tricky - reminede me a bit of ELVIS the Concert and These Are The Days & Radio GAGA were played using a playback-drum-loop .... '39 was cool- as this was not on the setlsit (will post a picture of it later on my main-page) and opening his solo-set brian said something like "now i can playwahtever i want, right. even this..." and he started with '39 - very special the tourmerchadising (will post pictures of it later on my main-page) is weird and way too expensive all in all much better than i ecpected and much much much better than the fancourt fiasco |
turolf_70 29.03.2005 06:13 |
Boring setlist, a C-version of "Magic tour". Why can´t they play songs like Ogre battle, march of the black.., Flick of the wrist, tenement funster, sail away sweet sister, it´s late, your my best frient, GREAT KING RAT, save me, innuendo.... Why are Brian May singing I want it all? And why didn´t they play more FREE songs like "soon I will be gone" or "stealer". |
S@turn 29.03.2005 06:19 |
always nice to know it better then the performers, right? |
eggy 29.03.2005 06:32 |
Turolf - you're ideal setlist would please about 500 hardcore fans. Setlists have to appeal to the general fan, not the hardcore. Hence the setlist is generally greatest hits with a little extra. Which I thought was pretty good. |
eggy 29.03.2005 06:35 |
In my post I forgot to mention the annoying woman who before the gig must have shouted John Deacon about 100 times. a) think of something more original b) shut the fuck up! |
icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 29.03.2005 06:45 |
Guys, is this the final setlist for the whole tour, or is it gonna change? I really would love to hear some more recent material (post-magic era)! |
Q-Nick 29.03.2005 06:46 |
First show of the Tour- the setlist WILL be basic. Hopefully it will improve as the Tour commences. |
icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 29.03.2005 06:53 |
yeah, I hope so.... 'cause it doesn't happen on every tour (i.e. on the Magic tour, the setlist remained the same...) But we'll see!! Too bad i can't fly from Brazil to see the other concerts!! :-) ! |
shambapoo 29.03.2005 06:55 |
Yes indeed - was stood very close to her. I did shout for Liar a few times but didn't think calling for requests would be too annoying. Am uploading some pics to the site so maybe Richard could validate? Thought it was a great night and gig. Fat Bottomed Girls was great to hear again Maybe controversial but if it was up to me I'd drop Radio Ga Ga A Kind Of Magic I Want To Break Free Last Horizon (and the whole Brian May solo) and shock horror.... We Will Rock You (mix it up a bit) Replace with It's Late Liar Don't Stop Me Now Now I'm Here Innuendo Don't get me wrong - still loved the gig |
icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 29.03.2005 06:59 |
hmmmm... White Man would be stunning... heheheheh gotta love that one |
The Stealer 29.03.2005 07:01 |
Sounds like everyone had a good time. I was hoping to see more 70's song...It's late, tenement funster, Doin Allright, Sleeping on the sidewalk etc. If they come to the US they will have to do older songs..they were most popular here during that time. Can't wait until Newcastle!!! |
queenie1982 29.03.2005 07:03 |
ok Fairyking, but I'm a woman! :D hahahaha... I liked your site but I can't understand italian (I'm Spanish)...but it seems to be cool! Take care |
Q-Nick 29.03.2005 07:04 |
shambapoo wrote: Maybe controversial but if it was up to me I'd drop Radio Ga Ga A Kind Of Magic I Want To Break Free Last Horizon (and the whole Brian May solo) and shock horror.... We Will Rock You (mix it up a bit)Ga Ga and TATDOOL needs to be played completely live. AKOM didn't work. IWTBF was awesome. Mix WWRY Slow with WWRY Fast, like Brian did. This may sound negative, but it was still an amazing show. |
D@VID 29.03.2005 07:13 |
Just got back from London.All in all a great show but there were a few negatives for me. WHAT!,or more to the point,WHO! the fucks idea was it to play song 13 as the intro?Terrible choice.Lights went down,huge expectancy in the hall,everyone expecting start of Tie Your Mother Down or One Vision.NO,20 minutes of nothing,then Rodgers(who I think is awesome by the way)comes out,says fuck all then Brian,few slaps on the guitar launches into Tie Your Mother Down,concert was great from that point on but opening needs reworking BIG TIME.There were even a few boos around me which I thought was a bit extreme.Had a dreadful feeling for a short time it was all going tits up but once they got going it was great. Good song selection on the whole but would of liked a few more surprises,Headlong,It's Late(which I thought Brian had started to play at the start of slow Hammer to Fall?Was I the only one who caught that?),Don't Stop Me Now to name a few. Seeing them three more times (Cardiff,Wembley and Hyde Park) so heres hoping for more next time. Also thought Paul Rodgers was great.What a voice the guy has and was thrilled that the Queen fans took to him. Brian was great as always and seemed genuinely relieved and happy that we fans excepted Paul. Roger was a great surprise after recent photos and was excellently all night.Lot more energy out of him than I expected.Sang great as well. Band were good also. Look forward to the next shows |
Serry... 29.03.2005 07:26 |
I don't care much about the set list cause when I am on the concert I'm trying to enjoy all songs which are performing - I Want To Break Free or It's Late, doesn't much matter, but as I remember Brian said that they're gonna play some songs which have never been sung live by Freddie... As I see a very few of such songs were performed. And of course "Last Horizon" is a great song, but not on this tour, IMO. Though since GHIII release all things are possible... |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 07:27 |
OK- my turn The meeting in the pub with fellow zoners was great- it's nice to put faces to nicknames :) The only thing was- it was short- if it wasn't for lottery mess and ppl had their tickets already I guess it would have been few beers more! I was really proud of myself- about 5 of them I drank and I didn't go to the loo at all during the gig. for me- that's incredible ;) The intro made me worried- 15 minutes of Track13 was a weird choice. When I heard Eminem I got really worried. Unnecessary, as the opener was AWESOME. "Reaching Out" maybe wasn't a great, energetic start, but seguing into Tie Your Mother Down it rocked the house. Big time. Little Bit Of Love was IMO the worst of Paul Rodgers tracks- lively but... Ok- it was all right! But than they started IWTBF and the whle audience was just singing it really loud. Great, althouh it's far from being my fav song. On stage it worked well though. Fat Bottomed Girls? SIMPLY GREAT!!! Awesome!!! And I didn't hear any tapes... Than acustic set started with a graet version of Seagull- it was really good. Followed by 39 which wasn't even supposed to be in the set. Well, the way audience sang this song showed what kind of audience it was. Hardly a greatest hit, wasn't it? Seemed like ppl wanted more less known tracks. Pitty Brian didn't recognise it... The version of LOVE OF MY LIFE was very emotional, Brian was singing pretty well, the crowd- even better. Beautiful. When the slow HAMMER TO FALL started, after first chord I thought that maybe they're gonna do It's Late. Wishfull thinking... But it was great; again- they rocked the house big time! Guitar solo? Chinese torture was nice, but the "Buckingham Roof" on the screen made me really cringe. But Last Horizon was nice, that was unexpected. Roger sang These Are The Days Of Our Lives really cool, the pictures on the screen really fitted the song- not only they featured Freddie but also John. Brian messed up a solo IMO (just little bit), but it was really nice. Radio Ga-Ga of course made everyone clap along and sing- again- not one of my fav, but the performance was really good. When Roger came back behind the kit, Paul sang the rest of the song (or was it crowd again? :) ). Was nice to see Brian playing slide. And Dannys bass was just AWESOME!!! Can't Get Enough was AWESOME. Jamie played solo together with Brian and they played it really well. AWESOME- even the audience joined in. But what happened after that was a highlight- Roger singing I'M IN LOVE WITH MY CAR from behind drumkit. He played really well, and sang as good. He went lower during "tell my girl, I have to forget her..." but being almost 60- c'mon- his performance was GREAT! I've always wanted to see that. Now I have! Brian santg I WANT IT ALL and did pretty good job IMO- great stuff, especially that they played full album version, with the heavy-slow bit in the middle. That was just AMAZING! A Kind Of Magic is again not my cup of tea but I would be an idiot not to like the way they played it- Paul sang it really well. And that tere was Bohemian Rhapsody... On the begining I cringed. I thought- that's too much, that's ridiculous. By the end of the song (Paul sang the heavy bit and the ending), when the audience sang "nothing really matters to me" just like in the old days- I had tears in my eyes. Am I begining to be a stepford...? ;) Show Must Go On was great- Elton's version compared to that one is veeeeeeery bad, even though Brian messed up some chords during second solo (or that's what I heard). And they left stage. 2 Free and Bad Company tracks worked extremely well- FEEL LIKE MAKING LOVE had amazing arrangement, I always loved that song- and it won the crowd. ALL RIGHT NOW was even better, even Danny came out of the shadow and was in the spotlight for a moment. Entire audience joined in, it was- again- great. Another encore and obvious WWRY / WATC- they had to play them and they bloody worked. Still noything |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 07:31 |
*double post- sorry* |
YourValentine 29.03.2005 07:34 |
I want to divide my review in two parts - the first one is personal, the second one about the concert itself. So, the less sentimental people have a chance to skip the fist part. It's always important for me to meet friends for a concert and Brixton was a very good chance for that. So, it was a real bonus for me to meet eggy after over 3 years and see a concert with him again. For the first time I met my net friend Greg Young, whom I sadly missed in Cologne last year. I met a whole bunch of new people, for example Fenderek with his beautiful girlfriend - what a lovely couple, they both know how to have a good time. Jeroen, to whom I've spoken what seems to be forever but never met. Also a group of Queenzoners I never saw before, sorry if I don't remember all your names right now, I wasn't in bed for 3 days. Wolfgang and Martin from the German FC page joined us for the whole concert and we all got on very well. And of course Martin (Mr.Scully) was there, I stopped counting how many Queen/SASBand related concerts we already saw together. And yes, we met Penetration_Guru!! I am not giving away anything - only that much: think of a dark corner, a trench coat and a cigarette - that's not him:) In the Brixton Academy we met more and more people, it was like a big family. Almost the complete Benidorm group was there, many fans we know from conventions, other websites, etc. And the crowd in the Brixton Academy was just amazing. It was the best and most dedicated audience you can think of. It did not matter when Paul Rodgers forgot some words, the audience knew them and when Brian missed his cue, the crowd did not miss it and started singing. They all made more mistakes than in a usual concert (the band , that is) but this was not a usual concert, it was the moment of truth when Brian and Roger presented the new Queen chapter to their very own audience. Everybody was just determined to have a good time and make the event a success. In the Brixton Academy you could see the most loyal fans who were lucky to have the chance to be there. If there were some free riders we did not notice them, the must have been on the balcony:) to be continued |
shambapoo 29.03.2005 07:44 |
It was a shame the audience at the front didn't jump around and dance / rock much. I thought the crowd only came to life when singing. It's not only about that though. Much better for We Are The Champions. I thought the band were much better than the crowd last night except on 39, Love Of My Life, We Are The Champions and Alright Now. Must do better! All of us |
YourValentine 29.03.2005 07:55 |
Okay, while I took ages to write up my personal stuff, most of what I have to say was already said. Anyway, I try to summarize what I think about the concert. - I agree about weird beginning of the show: building up the expectation with a track 13 like music, then an Eminem track - we checked if we are in the right concert. I liked the Reaching Out rendition by PR but it might heve fitted better into the set list at some other point. What I liked: -Brian May's attitude: he was the one connecting best with the audience - The harmonies in Fat Bottomed Girls and I Want It all - they were awesome thanks to Jamie and Spike - the guitar duet Jamie /Brian in Last Horizon, one of my all time favourites - when Spike gently played the chords to Brian's solo in Love Of My life when he obviously got lost at some point. - Roger's vocals, he is a great live singer -What I did not like at all - the fake drums in Radio Ga Ga and the fake percussions in Days Of Our Lives Hammer To Fall slow version- just because I don't like it - Bohemian Rhapsody, I did not want to believe my eyes and ears: Not only that they had Freddie on a video screen playing and singing and Brian/Roger playing live to this video, that was bad enough. But in the "operatic part" when the band traditionally leaves the stage they had a fast sequence of short well know Freddie video clips and they actually cut wo pictures of John Deacon into it! I am waiting for the rumours about John being dead starting anytime now, mainly because in Days Of Our Lives John was suspicously missing in the old Queen video footage... |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 07:59 |
I just noticed on Brian's soapbox message before the gig: "For those about to salute you... We Will Rock You. Or something like this" Laughed Out Really Loud!!! |
Two Sharp Pencils 29.03.2005 08:01 |
Questions :) 1) Reaching Out was a-capella? 2) What was Pauls´s role during IILWMC, IWIA, BoRhap, Last Horizon and TATTOOL? 3) Did they actually sing the intro of FBG? 4) Last Horizon was played just by Brian & Jamie or by the whole band (except PR, of course)? Thanks!! |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 08:04 |
Two Sharp Pencils wrote: 1) Reaching Out was a-capella?Weird, but... i'm not sure... No, i don't think so... Two Sharp Pencils wrote: 2) What was Pauls´s role during IILWMC, IWIA, BoRhap, Last Horizon and TATTOOL?Receiving a blow job off stage ;) Two Sharp Pencils wrote: 3) Did they actually sing the intro of FBG?Sounded like that for me Two Sharp Pencils wrote: 4) Last Horizon was played just by Brian & Jamie or by the whole band (except PR, of course)?The entire band- was really nice. |
Two Sharp Pencils 29.03.2005 08:05 |
Thanks, Fenderek. You´re very nice. ;-) |
icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 29.03.2005 08:09 |
I have 2 questions myself: Does anybody else thinks that Paul should sing "i want it all"? Do you guys think that Roger shouldn't use a fake drum on Radio gaga / These are the days.. ? |
hcrvelin 29.03.2005 08:12 |
Fenderek wrote: Receiving a blow job off stage ;)Damn! And we were told PR won't copy Freddie :)) |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 08:12 |
:=[Tom Cat]=: (a.k.a ICMROCHA) wrote: Does anybody else thinks that Paul should sing "i want it all"?IMO it worked with Brian. :=[Tom Cat]=: (a.k.a ICMROCHA) wrote: Do you guys think that Roger shouldn't use a fake drum on Radio gaga / These are the days.. ?I didn't mind that actually :) I'm surprised, but I really didn't mind... |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 08:18 |
I forgot one more thing. As I bought the program (12 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and after the gig had some chicken (yep- THAT place ;) ) I run out of cash. So with my credit card I went in search of cash machine, forgetting what was told before a concert (Martin was it? eggy? jeroen?)- THERE WAS NO MONEY IN CASH MACHINES IN THE ENTIRE BRIXTON!!! I checked about seven different ones! At the end of the day I had to walk home... Thank god Brixton is so close to Camberwell...! My girlfriend till now is joking, saying "...but 12 pounds!!!" :) Made the bloody gig even more special :) |
Richard Orchard 29.03.2005 08:25 |
shambapoo wrote: Am uploading some pics to the site so maybe Richard could validate?I am validating now |
eggy 29.03.2005 08:31 |
I was going to get a T-shirt after the gig but the queue was massive, so I ran to the tube instead so I could get an earlier train. It's was Jeroen who explained the cash machine fun. Quite happy I got money at St Albans train station or I'd have buggered with no money too. Glad you enjoyed Favourite Chicken. I took another 30 mins off my life yesterday with 2 pieces of chicken and chips. Gorgeous!!!?! |
ziggy811 29.03.2005 08:40 |
It's great to hear the guys are back in great form, and Paul did a good job. I must say after the fancourt webcast I was starting to get a bit worried. The only thing that sounds a bit disappointing is the setlist. It seems that they're really going for a greatest hits show. Don't get me wrong I'm really looking forward to hearing the hits, but I was hoping that at least a few more obscure songs would be played. Where were the surprises? Apart from that things sound very promising, and maybe by the time they hit Antwerp some other songs will have found their way onto the setlist. |
Erin 29.03.2005 08:47 |
I feel nauseous with envy..;-) If they don't come to America, I may need some sort of psychiatric assistance! |
RTG 29.03.2005 08:51 |
Well it sounds like I was one of the lucky ones to get back last night and not this morning. Firstly: It was a good show, not excellent and certainly not terrible...and let's face it not a wholly Queen show, this is meant to be different. Secondly: The show needs to flow a bit more and Paul need to be on stage a whole lot more or the show structured so he doesn't appear/disappear after half a song like he did during Hammer. I suspect that this is due to 1) Paul not being overly familiar with the Queen back catalogue and 2) His voice just doesn't sound right on some of the tracks. His voice is suited to Free/BC stuff - it showed at Brixton. Thirdly: In my opinion the show would have been better by cutting out some of the longish instrumental section and having a strong start with PR, perhaps acoustic section sans PR in the middle and then a strong rockier finish with PR. But then that would have made a tighter show but there were thousands in there who wanted to see Brian's solo. I know it's a work in progress! Fourthly: I was amazed by how many people there were who were not that interested in the show, wasn't this for Queen and PR fans? I took my wife and she loved it, it being her first Queen concert. I'm sure something went sadly awry with the ticketing policy - I'm lucky to have won the ticketing lottery. Although, that said, the nosie inside was awesome in places. Fifthly: The show was genuinely touching. A highlight for me was during Days of Our Lives. When the B&W footage of the band in Japan started and the camera panned on Freddie there was a massive cheer. Brian turned around and stared at the screen and turned back to the audience with a smile on his face. It was a genuinely touching tribute. I was already emotional prior to the gig after watching the Freddie biog on the Biography channel...this only added to it and Bo Rhap kind of finished me off...I wish everyone had the chance to see it. Sixthly: highlights of the music: TYMD - the only way possible to start the gig (by the way why the griping about track 13 being used at the start - IMO this was the perfect way to build up an atmosphere...although we had already heard that the band weren't due on til 9.45, and hadn't Brian lyric-checked Eminem on his last soapbox entry?). Paul is fantastic on this song, it suits his voice. Little Bit of Love - Kept things rolling in a gentle bluesy way. Break Free: First opportunity for the crowd to take over proceedings. Everyone on stage didn't seem to mind. FBG: Stunning and again lends itself well to Mr Rodgers wonderfully strong rock vocals. '39 - Probably the highlight of the night. Impromptu and the crowd took control. Brian seemed chuffed. Please make it available as a download!!!! Love of My Life: Moving. Poignant. Wonderful. Hammer: An opportunity missed. Paul needs to take this one from the start. I too thought I heard a little bit of It's LAte in there at the start...that would be one that may suit the new band. Guitar solo: Very funny moment when Bri ends up back on top of Buck House. Days of Our Lives: Again truly moving, especially the B&W footage. Perhaps is better suited being paired with LOML. GA GA: Jury still out on this one. Its a crowd pleaser for sure. Rog should have vocals as its a bit twee for Paul's voice...but then you have to have the backing drum track. But then you can't not have it and miss out on the crowd participation. Amazing sight seeing 40+ year olds taking part in this like their lives depended on it! Yes, it still catches loads of people out...heh, heh. Can't get enough....: Needed to be louder! IILWMC: I love this song. Last saw Rog doing this with the Cross. One for the fans...thanks. I want it all - a definite stand out on the night. Powerful. Perhaps it would suit Paul but Brian delivered an excelelnt performance both vocally and on lead guitar. AKOM: A crowd pleaser. One of those I find difficult looking at PR sing. I |
DeaconJohn 29.03.2005 09:07 |
Well I'm glad you all had a fantastic time. Since it went so well I am cosidering going to the Dublin gig as well as the belfast one. However, a few points: - I'm not sure I like the sound of what they have done with Bohemian Rapsody. I think they might have been better leaving it out. - The setlist looks good, and I am over the moon that In Love With My Car is in there. Only song that I really would have liked that isnt there is Under Pressure. Oh, and take Fat Bottomed Girls off the setlist. Never liked that bloody song. - Eminem!?!?!What the hell were they thinking? I'd rather hear John Deacon armpit-fart "Body Language"!! - Odd that there was no John in the days of our lives footage....don't know what to make of that. Don't want to make any Malina-ish (remember her?) analysis of it, so I'll say nothing. |
onevsion 29.03.2005 09:20 |
hmmm... i'm really thinking about going to the Cologne gig as well... First i thought 5 gigs would be enough for me but after reading this and seeing some pictures i really got excited! Thanks for all reviews and pictures!! |
Q-Nick 29.03.2005 09:27 |
The Bo Rhap "Tribute" was superb. I wasn't sure about it when I heard the Rumours a few months back, but I have to say how tactful and respectable it was. The Eminem thing was a bit surprising to say the least, it could have been worse. At some stages I forget completely about Paul; Brian and Rog did well when they were called into singing duties. '39 !!! Wow. Definitely the highlight along with "Love Of My Life". Freddie would be proud. |
Oberon 29.03.2005 10:00 |
Agree with most of the reviews on here. I think PR should take on more vocal duties, that's what he's there for. Let Brian do LOML etc, and Roger TATDOOL, but get PR to do Hammer and IWIA etc, and let Rog drum - that's what he'd there for, and what a strong drum sound it was! I agree that the guitar solo could be dropped in favour of other songs. I like FBG - it rocks! I thought BoRhap was done well. It should be in there, and I think this was a good way to do it. The only other way would be as part of a medley (i.e. the beginning and end parts sandwiched by other songs like in Hammersmith '75 etc). All in all a great night, and am looking forward to comparing it with wembley and then hyde park!!! |
Rocky 29.03.2005 10:05 |
Like many of you, I was at the Brixton gig. I think Roger, Brian, Jamie and Spike and the base player did brilliantly. The visuals were a great addition too. Brian was really enjoying it and he was a great focus point on stage. But I don't think they needed to have Paul Rogers there really. They could have done it all between them with maybe a few guest appearances. Paul Rogers just didn't do it for me. I didn't think he was that strong vocally. I am not saying he is not a good artist and I am not comparing him to Freddie. I am commenting on how I responded to and felt about Paul Rogers on stage. The show needed a stage performer who at all times is energetic, pulls in the crowd and keeps them moving. Of course Paul has taken on a hell of a challenge doing what he's doing but I felt the best bits of the concert were those bits where he wasn't on stage. I felt he lacked a stage presence, interaction with the audience, and he wasn’t really that strong a show man and performer. It was great having Roger and Brian coming to the front of the stage to sing and it was nice to hear Brian talk to the audience. Things like that didn’t really happen. It was a shame all the band members weren’t introduced. The set list was ok but it would have been nice to have heard less greatest hits during the show and for it to have been bit tighter in between the songs, without the silences. Wouldn't it have been nice to have seen Roger and Brian do something on stage together? Maybe as part of an acoustic set? I did enjoy watching Brian, Roger, Spike and Jamie. Well done to them and best of luck on the rest of the tour as they did enjoy what they were doing which is important to see on stage. But based on last night, I wouldn't pay to see another concert. For £55 I would expect to see more, see a better concert. |
Voice of Reason 2018 29.03.2005 10:18 |
Hey eggy! Did you make the 11:33 from St Pancras? I did - really chuffed! |
Lord Blackadder 29.03.2005 10:20 |
caviar wrote: The point of this tour shouldn't be IMHO to repeat 1986's tour. There are so many live with The Works and a kind of magic. This tour is definitely for fans so they should play stuff fans do not usually hear from them, such as It's Late, Breakthrough, Don't try suicide and so on. Why to play again and again CLTCL, IWTBF, RadioGaGa and so on...Why don't they play stuff Freddie didn't use to sing? Because whoever sings will not sing like Freddie with Queen so better sing stuff we didn't hear before on Stage, such as All Dead from BM...Just a few thoughts.Are you mad? Don't Try Suicide isnt a live song. They play CLTCL and Ga Ga and stuff because they are the big hits everyone (except you) want to see and they work live. The Ga Ga chorus with the hands and stuff is perfect. CLTCL works perfectly live too. All Dead All Dead is a very quiet song not suited to live rock concerts IMO. I want to hear Break Free. I want to shout We Will We Will Rock You with everyone in the audience. I want to clap my hands along with Roger in Ga Ga. I want all the glory I could never have when Freddie was alive because I was too young. |
Scirocco1977 29.03.2005 10:31 |
THanx for all those reviews and piccies. Just ordered more tickets for further concerts =). My question: Was the show longer than 2.5 hours? Also, during BoRhap: Did the band 'Vanish' during the first part and only re-entered for the hard par? |
eggy 29.03.2005 10:41 |
Certainly did! Even had time to run and get a drink from Kings Cross! Managed to avoid H&H when I got home. That's something of a miracle for me - but one lot of greasy chicken in a day is more than enough for my stomach. There weren't many people coming back from the gigs last night which surprised me. |
Teo_torriate04 29.03.2005 10:43 |
Great to read all the positive reviews and can't wait for Cardiff. with regards to the opening. I can't help thinking that the rather subdued start may be because, as Brian said, a lot of the light rig and staging had to be left behind because of the size restrictions of the venue. I'm sure that there will be a spectacular opening planned at the larger venues with the full rig in use. |
Scott_Mercury 29.03.2005 10:49 |
Everyone knows I feel about this tour. A reviewer up above said exactly how I feel. All of us Queen fans agree that while we understand that Roger and Brian are not vocally in the same league as Freddie, we all like their voices. So I ask the question... did Paul Rodgers really need to be there? I honestly feel that Brian and Roger could handle all vocal duties, and us fans would appreciate them giving Freddie numbers their best shot. Like I've stated before, I've seen Paul Rodgers twice, and he just doesn't do anything for me in a live setting. When it comes to his songs, his studio versions are great....as he was born to sing "Can't get enough of your love" and "Feel like makin love". When it comes to live performances, give me a Freddie Mercury or Angus Young any day of the week. I, myself, prefer Roger Taylor's voice to Paul Rodgers.... And Brian, when he wants to, sounds alot like Freddie, just with less power. I feel that Brian, John, and Roger...with maybe some assistance from Spike would have been a perfect tour for 2005. I give PR a A++ for effort and risk. I just can't accept him in front of Queen though. I do wish them all the best of health and luck, and I hope they are enjoying themselves. S.M. |
Voice of Reason 2018 29.03.2005 11:19 |
The positives for me were Paul's performance - I really liked his voice and it seemed to fit the Queen songs. He looks well for 56 and and was very smiley - my friend wondered if it was because he was drunk? I hadn't realised I knew a couple of Bad Compnay songs and I enjoyed them. Roger particularly giving it so much! A few people said they thought he was going to have a heart attack! Highlights for me were 39/Love of my Life and I'm in Love with My Car. Also meeting two nice girls before the gig - hope you got home safely Nat and Rian! Isn't Love of my Life an amazing song? The live version must be one of the best-loved Queen tracks, yet it had evolved so much from the original album version. Listening to it brought it back to me just how versatile Queen were. I stopped singing for a few lines and just listened to everyone else. Brought a tear to my eye. On the downside: 2 hours waiting after we got in including 20 minutes of 'Track 13'. I was wondering if there was a technical problem and the gig was going to be cancelled. The whole thing being 'disjointed'. It kept feeling like the gig was stopping and starting. The 'two-tier' system where Brian, Roger and Paul were in the spotlight and free to roam while the other three dressed in black and seemed to be under orders not to stray from behind their monitors. It didn't happen very often. The left hand side of the stage was in near-permanent gloom while the right was floodlit. Worst was Bohemian Rhapsody with the video of Freddie singing. I thought they over all that, but I guess not. Flashing up images of John too. Jesus. Same for Days of our Lives. I didn't like the video and thought Roger used to do this better on his solos tours. Video clip from We Will Rock You shown during Radio Gaga!!! I didn't buy any merchandise, but the tour logo seems to be the Smirnoff eagle - I hope they don't get sued! Having said that, from some angles it looked like a chicken. Brian's guitar solo - but I've never liked that. Why not just play anopther song with a great solo lkiem You Dobn't Fool Me. Paul constantly being usurped as front man. He's the lead singer at Brian and Roger's invitation, therefore he should sing more, for example I Want It All, and Brian and Roger simply need to shut up more. I Want It All was sung by Brian while standing on the right of the stage - leaving the centre of the stage empty. Overall I thought there was nothing there that they couldn't have done without Paul. Let's hope that they can iron some of these things out as the tour progresses - Basel and Birmingham to come! |
jamh2000 29.03.2005 11:44 |
I thought the bohemian rhapsody tribute was brilliant- it felt like such a mark of respect to the man and there was nothing cheesy about it. As a whole I thought it was an absolutely wonderful gig of the kind you don't see to often these days- I would very rarely be happy listening to a two hour plus set but this one went by like lightning. It made you realize just how missed freddie actually is but considering circumstances It was just the right thing to do and great fun- PR was excellent, particularly during all right now wich went down a storm. I thought the problem was not so much the fact that they used backing drums in GAGA but that said backing drums were just rather rubbish and didn't seem to groove terribly well. |
deleted user 29.03.2005 11:57 |
has anybody got the radio Ga Ga from the night, i want to know wot exactly it sounded like, for a few reasons 1-my fav song 2-wot u meant by usin backin track at the begining 3-I want to get myself stoked for when they coem to Newcastle in MAY! |
Fenderek 29.03.2005 12:08 |
The begining started with looped drums from keyboard and it pretty much sounded like karaoke version. But later... Danny's bass was particularly great, as the weird keyboard sounds after first chorus were played on bass- sounded AWESOME. After second verse (was after second verse or chorus?) Roger ran behind his drum kit and started playing real drums at which point paul Rodgers was already singing choruses and Brian was playing (nicely) solo using slide. Sounded really well, even if it's faaaaaaar from being my fav track. And the fake-drum... Dunno- I didn't really mind THAT much.... Well, maybe a bit- I actually thought it's gonna be worse... |
deleted user 29.03.2005 12:12 |
ah ok, so it sounded really good,... ... ... ... ... ... NOW I WANT EVEN MORE! PLLEASE SOME HAS TO HAVE IT! |
Banquo 29.03.2005 12:50 |
I looked on the internet yesterday morning and saw a ticket on sale for £55. I checked the trains and could have been in Lonbdon for 3.15pm. I also checked the flights from London back to Blackpool this morning and could have still made it for work at 10am this morning. I was that close to coming. But I wasn't too sure of the ticket being valid and I didn't fancy staying at Stansted Airport overnight. But I was very, very close to going. I'll have to wait for Birmingham and Hyde Park I suppose. |
kyassor 29.03.2005 13:53 |
I was at the Brixton gig and I think Paul must have been having a few problems with his voice. When Brian started his guitar solo he said something along the lines of 'it's a bit early for this but here goes' making me think that something had happend to mean there had to be a change to the planned set list. Then for I Want It All he said something like 'You've got the reserve singer for this but I wrote it so should know it' indicating that Paul should have been singing it but for some reason wasn't able to. The songs Paul did sing were great but maybe his voice is not at full strength and currently he is not able to cope with the style / demands of the full set ? |
deleted user 29.03.2005 14:13 |
makes sense |
LittQueenie 29.03.2005 14:26 |
All of this sounds so awesome - I wish I could be there!!!!!! Just here in Texas eagerly awaiting news that this tour will be coming to the USA. It sounds much respect was given to Freddie -rightly so. I bet there were alot of tears watching Brian sitting next to that empty stool while performing LOML.....I want to cry just thinking about it! :-( |
Professor Snowy 29.03.2005 14:26 |
Was one of the lucky ones who went last night, and thoroughly enjoyed every second that they played. Support act was good too! (between songs) - Quote; Theres only one Pau-aul Rodgers... etc Theres only one Bry-an May... etc! Endquote From where I was standing, the bit where Bri "fluffed" his solo, was purely down to a technical fault with one of the guitar echoes. We could see roadies racing back and forth with gaffer tape. Great stuff that tape, they fixed it! Made some new friends too! Thoroughly loved it, and can't wait for Birmingham. |
Penetration_Guru 29.03.2005 14:54 |
My turn... having sent my younger brother to hurl abuse at eggy, confuse YV & wind up some poor QOLer in the pub, I walked round the block (finding the back of the queue alarmingly near to the front), got in, stood in front of the mixing desk and had a very good time thanks. I can confirm that Fenderek has 1. So little experience that he really did think Hammer To Fall was It's Late, bless him... 2. A lovely companion... As above, intro tape stupidly long...it would have been better to keep the random blues tape going until Mr MNM was ready, but I have no problem with QPR taking back that drum sound (lots of people wanting more imagination, lots of others questioning Eminem's use....) Didn't recognise Reaching Out, but it fits with Brian's practice on solo tours of starting slowly. No problems with set list, except guitar solo is unnecessary, although not as unnecessary as Last bloody Horizon (plus the video was cringeworthy). I think they felt Bo Rhap HAD to be in, so found a way to do it. As far as I noticed, PR got ONE WORD wrong (although the intro to CLTCL didn't sound right - nice guitars though). Backing tapes...GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Lighting Ops doing the handclaps...nice touch. ...and no parking fees!! Home by 1am. I agree with VoR about the men in black stage left (especially the poor hobbit on bass - should have taken up a lighter instrument) |
Richard Lopata (new email) 29.03.2005 15:34 |
Honey, I'm HOME!!!! God, i'm tired ... 1. Other Queenzoners Well Jeroen, Fenderek, Your Valentin, Scully, Erik & Wife (forgot her name sorry for that) ... It was great fun meeting you all, we had a nice time 2. The Venue FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE: WE STOOD AT THE FRONT!!! 3. The Setlist MIH intro: god, that took a long time Eminem: suprise suprise, but cool though The new song: well pretty cool how Brian sneaked through the curtains and started TIE YOUR FUCKING MOTHER DOWN: Dropping curtains, everybody on their feet ... so great Didn't know Little Bit Of Love, but sounded great I Want To Break Free; very cool, we shouted our tongues out, and Brian and Roger seemed very emotional by it ... Fat Bottomed Girl: No taped intro, ... sounded fantastic ... nice mistake by Roger in one of the breaks Seagull: didn't know it, liked it '39: Brian took the wrong notes, but we corrected him ... and it was great (missed Roger though, but than again, it wasn't planned) Love Of My Life: God that was brilliant ... Brian was moved, and so was everybody else ... was the empty stool there on purpose (like it is supposed to be Freddie's?) Hammer To Fall; never my song, but this was a good version Guitar solo; liked the video of Brixton/Buckingham Palace ... but not Last goddamn Horizon ... no, .. they could omit that one immediately if I had a say Days Of Our Live: Lovely, didn't mind the backing drumtrack ... the footage was great Radio Ga Ga: Hmm, that backing track wasn't loud enough ... and too slow ... When Roger joined the tempo was much better Can't Get Enough Of Your Love: Great song, great version ... I'm In Love With My Car: "Wish Me Luck" Roger said ... he didn't need it, although the intro wasn't entirely correct, Roger played and sang great I Want It All; Very good edition, Brian sang it very well (all their voices were good this night) It's A Kind Of Magic: OK, now this didn't work out ... Paul wasn't audible and the overal sound wasn't that superb ... the lesser of the evening Bohemian Rhapsody; magical, ... very good ... although Freddies taped vocals at the end were not easily to hear Show Must Go On; Moderate but Paul sang it very good, ... solo was great Feel Like Makin' Love; wow!!!!! Allright Now: Brian started instead of the drums ... but was pretty good WWRY/WATC: As usual, ... One thing which disturbed me when I was at the Dominion saturday and also during the concert were the very cheesy visuals during Radio Ga Ga But what a night ... just a couple of meters from the stage and great lighting ... |
YourValentine 29.03.2005 15:54 |
Sorry I forgot to mention you, Richard Lopata. This was your younger brother, Mylord? And we thought it was the the nephew... It's interesting to read all the different opinions, how obvious that you can never please everybody - I agree about the WWRY musical footage, that was very unnecessary |
hcrvelin 29.03.2005 16:20 |
wegotit wrote: The tour merchadising (will post pictures of it later on my main-page) is weird and way too expensiveWhich brings me to the question - will these new items be only available on concerts only or they plan to offer it on their online shop? |
k01olnug 29.03.2005 16:47 |
The gig sounds amazing. I cant believe you lucky sons of a bitches got to get close up. I'll still treat wembley as the best day of my life even though ill be watching it all the way back from block D3. LONG LIVE QUEEN. + that setlisty is great |
hcrvelin 29.03.2005 16:54 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:Well, from pics which are available there are new T-shirts at least which at front have this new tour logo and at back dates for tour. I also saw few T-shits which I do not know if they are new or not, but you can't find them at QOL shop.hcrvelin wrote:What exactly IS the merchandise?wegotit wrote: The tour merchadising (will post pictures of it later on my main-page) is weird and way too expensiveWhich brings me to the question - will these new items be only available on concerts only or they plan to offer it on their online shop? |
kyassor 29.03.2005 19:36 |
Richard Lopata (new email) wrote: Love Of My Life: God that was brilliant ... Brian was moved, and so was everybody else ... was the empty stool there on purpose (like it is supposed to be Freddie's?)Empty stool ? Couldn't you see Freddie on it ? ;-) |
Mr. Scully 30.03.2005 00:20 |
I don't know if anybody mentioned that - Track 13 from MiH was played as intro in its ENTIRETY! 23 minutes!!! Pretty boring, I can tell you. I'm In Love With My Car was absolutely AMAZING... I'll maybe post more when I get some sleep... greetings to eggy, Richard Lopata, YourValentine, Rien and many others I've met before the gig... |
Fenderek 30.03.2005 02:26 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: I can confirm that Fenderek has 1. So little experience that he really did think Hammer To Fall was It's Late, bless him...:P LOL- you call it lack of experience, I call it wishfull thinking :) Pretty much the same thing in this case. And I wasn't the only one fooled ;) |
RohemianBapsody 30.03.2005 02:27 |
The poster stated Queen and Paul Rodgers ...... I thought tha meant I was going to see the same Queen as I did in the 70s and 80s.... But NO Freddie or John. And I thought mentioning Paul Rodgers was the support act ....... For those that couldn't get tickets - hopefully you will be able to see one of the other shows. For those that didn't want to go because of their priniciples and that Queen were no longer - You should get out and enjoy yourselves instead of living in the past. THE SHOW ROCKED. THE INTRODUCTION OF PAUL RODGERS AS LEAD SINGER WAS INSPIRING AND WORKED (a pity he did not sing lead on more songs). Cannot wait until Wembley and Hyde Park where we will see the whole lighting set. BTW - Eggy, did you sell your extra ticket? |
RTG 30.03.2005 08:56 |
Don't think anyone else answered this yet...the Brixton show was 2 hours long. They came on stage 8.45pm and were off 10.45pm. There were quite some lengthy breaks between songs mind...but not between encores where they were probably only off stage a couple of minutes at a time (probably due to time restrictions/curfew at Brixton). |
Longpig 30.03.2005 11:21 |
Track 13 = ace, emenem + accoustic bit = very poor Tie your mother down = ace CAR = ace LOML = ace Hammer = ace (although I thought dutch from 2002/3, whenever it was, was cack, so bit surprised!) Bhaps = ace Fat bott = ace days of our lives = ace ARN = ace (best vocal from a bad night by PR) SMGO = not sure, good drum, but PR was rubbish Seagul = toss, shouldn't be played again AKOM = not sure Radio ga ga = ace, but PR sounded inferior to Roger as a singer. IWTBF = just alright, would've preferred fuckin' drowse or summat though. CLTCL = just passed me by 3/10 '39 = ace I want it all = very good, Brian sung it brilliantly, I didn't think he could sing so well anymore. Over all there was no songs that were a surprise - thought track list was very safe, would love someday one day, it's late, innuendo, white man, owt from Queen I,II or SHA (Brighton rock solo doesn't count). I reckon Paul Rodgers is very uneccessary. Get a 'spare' drummer and let Roger and Brian take turns singing the songs. I suspected PR was a cunt when he banned smoking and didn't want Gail Anne Dorsey to tour with 'em, the show confirmed this and also proved he's not really a great singer anymore. What was that bit in 'feel like making love' when he was wailing away? I could sing better with someone treading on me throat. Ok FM's shoes are big boots to fill, but when you can't sing your own songs.... Roger won, Brain was ace, PR can fuck off and sing about pigeons. Wanks a lot. LP |
bas asselbergs 30.03.2005 16:13 |
11:43 minutes intro from Made in Heaven...and then open a QUEENtour with Paul singing a NOT-queensong? that's 2 mistakes within 15 minutes. Not more than 3 freddie songs? 6 Paul songs? the rest all credits ( and pocket-filling ) for Brian and Roger...and no support act...and no surprises or new songs, no contact between Paul and the audience, Paul making mistake after mistake in timing and words...? Only a poor 90 minutes and 3 very predictable encores and a very boring setlist? Only trouble in a so called fans only exclusive show from wich the tickets went on general sale? And for wich we had to pay 14.95 gbp extra for special delivery that was never performed? ( had to collect the tickets myself and that took 34 minutes! ) Roger was the hero and the man of the match ! His rendition of I'm In Love With My Car, was the best and closest thing to the old days and living up to expectations of the whole evening, and that gave me goosepimples. Spike and Jamie and Miranda were a 3 man band on the side of the stage, and absolutely not a part in a team , a united band...they were merely instrumentalists to guide the band through their problems.And they were giggling between themselves all the time...separated from the other 3, of wich Paul Rodgers was more off and backstage than on stage. And when he was on, he sang it wrong, forget the words and made it a karaokeshow with the fans camouflageing his lack of knowledge of the words to the songs...timing was bad many times due to that too.... Technically zillions of things went wrong. The children of the bandmembers crawling up and down behind Roger was so annoying and unprofessional...NO. THIS was a disaster rip-off easy money show. Absolutely not Queen-worthy. I have had much more fun, and a far better show many times with Queencoverbands like MAYQUEEN for less money...with ALL the hits and more...Barcelona live etc...(link suggest Brian and Roger join MayQueen to finish off the tour...then we...us...the paying customers will get more and better value for our money !!! I hope they will rehearse seriously, add MORE freddie songs ( they must, when using the name Queen ! as freddie was Queen !!) and play more old songs, and what WE...the people that make them rich...want to hear and see them play !!! It must be worked on. Hard! And hopefully they will have gotten it all together by the time they play Holland..that is show 18...should be better by then...i hope.... Brian's face looked very unhappy, very pissed, and very relieved it was over at the end of the show. It certainly wasn't what it could and should have been. I will book it as the worst "Queen"- experience in 30 years i had. And i have seen them 101 times live now....From here on...it can only become better...i hope!!! There was only one !!!!! and he is missed!!!!! Still fan, still a lover of the Queen-catalogue, but very , very disappointed in what happened during the "greatest and most obscure comeback in the music history ever"....? no f.....g way it was!!! I light a candle, say a prayer and hope for better shows from now on.... |
Knute 30.03.2005 17:03 |
I feel sorry for you people that are so caught up in the past that you can't enjoy anything new whatsoever. I've said over and over that if you went to these shows expecting some sort of recreation of Queen in their prime and the way that makes you feel, you would be sorely disapointed. These super negative reviews are proving me right. It seems that the people who actually saw Queen are the ones having the most negative posts. What does that tell you. |
inu-liger 30.03.2005 17:47 |
That tells me people are stuck in the past, are stupid, and need to seriously get a life |
Serry... 30.03.2005 18:09 |
That tells me people lives THEIR lives in the way they wants to live and who you are to tell them how should they live?! Anyone who liked it - is a real Queen fan, anyone who didn't like - an old faggot and needs to be buried by real Queen fans, yeah? Fuck, no! We need in honest reviews - if someone didn't like something that's okay, Brian, Roger and Paul are humans and have their right to do mistakes! And fans have their rights to dislike those mistakes. |
wstüssyb 30.03.2005 18:26 |
everybody has thier own opinion, would suck if we all agreed eh? =-) |
inu-liger 30.03.2005 18:48 |
So that doesn't mean we all agree that George W. Bush is a moron?? |
Knute 30.03.2005 18:53 |
Have you read one review that said in essence "I saw the hall of fame footage so I was looking foward to seeing Q+PR, but sadly I was let down" NO!!!! That would be an honest review by someone who was willing to give it a chance. I have no problems with that. I'm making a distinction The only bitterly negative reviews are by the same people who are always saying Freddie this, Freddie that; Queen is dead; PR is a cunt; Queen used to do it like this, Queen used to do it like that BLAH BLAH BLAH Notice a pattern here? These kind of reviews I consider rubbish because the reviewer never intended to attend the concert of a NEW band with a totally open mind. Do I care that these folks are spending 50+ bucks knowing all along that they will be let down? No! I could give a fuck. I'm just giving my opinion that I don't take these kind of reviews seriousley and I actually find them funny in a pathetic sort of way. |
LittQueenie 30.03.2005 19:01 |
I must agree, everyone has their opinion and NO ONE is wrong in saying they liked it OR disliked it. Calling people stupid is pretty immature. |
Knute 30.03.2005 19:04 |
I never infered that anyone who didn't like the show was stupid. Close minded perhaps? Yes. Stupid? No. |
LittQueenie 30.03.2005 19:05 |
I didn't mean you!! :-) Someone else said that whoever didn't like the show was stupid.....and that makes THEM look pretty stupid!! :-) |
Damineh 30.03.2005 19:40 |
Reading how they had treated Love of My Life brought tears to my eyes. I just can't imagine each and every Queen song performed without Freddie. It just breaks my heart reading your reviews. I can't wait for the tour to come to Canada but it's going to be heartbreaking. |
bas asselbergs 31.03.2005 01:16 |
the last posts after my reaction were NO WAY an opinion anymore about the brixton show as this topic should be replied to, but merely other people judging other people and having their narrow-minded opinion ready and start throwing names and a verdict .... my piece is a naming all that went wrong. And it would have been a joy to see a "new band" taking the history of Queen ina new direction. But this setlist, the minimum part of Freddies music in it, and the bad way that his songs were performed may be said aswell to be a big diddappointment. If there would have been a real and teamlike united band on stage instead of the spike,jamie+miranda one on the left side, and brian roger and paul on the other side, okay, but they weren't a BAND. Children running up and down behind Roger, technical things that went wrong, the fact that Paul as a frontman made absolutely NO contact with the audience, but looked more like a shy japanese karaoke singer in a bar making timing- and wordmistakes time after time, and letting the crowd take over to camouflage his unability to do it right may be mentioned. I have seen Queen probably more often than you lot who judge the fans like me who did and call us hung and stuck in the past... For all the fuss with the organisation of the tickets, the late start, the stupid never ending intro...than NOT a Queensong, 3 of Freddie, 6 or 7 of Paul....and the rest only for pocketfilling royalties from Brian and Roger? THAT sucks ! It is a NOT courageaous but coward setlist, safe and easy money. Why bother to play Freddies compositions or even bother to record them and release them if THEY are NOT the ones to profit from that financially? Freddie wrote 57% of all songs, and always filled half of the show. IF they use the name Queen for this tour, they should play more of the songs from the man who made and was Queen. Also if they don't make a penny by doing so. I predicted that it would be like this in this forum before it all started. Look al the musical. 3 freddie songs, the rest are all credits to the guys alive, filling their pockets. They can do whatever they choose, but the abuse of the name Queen in respect to Freddie is shamefull. They had better call it Brian and Roger and Paul + friends on tour. When using the name and fame of Queen in ther name of the tour, then Freds part and portion should be bigger and more diverse. Why not play somebody to love, play the game, save me, spraed your wings, killer queen, don't stop me now, and so...why not listen to what WE want to hear? WE pay for the tickets and we are the customers here...they should live up to their clients wishes...but instead they play only that what makes them richer than they are, and put Fred aside in the enormous part of queen that he was and all his beautiful contributions... he dropped from 60 % part to less than 14%...and that is not how it should be, when remembering that Paul executed Freds songs poor too... I was wanting to see the new band. There wasn't a band. I wanted to hear the new stuff. There wasn't any. I wanted to hear and see the great Paul Rodgers...he wasn't that great, i can do that better ! much better ! And Mirko from MayQueen is sure as heel a much better entertainer, and entertainment darlings....where was it? Were we enterteained? I will never forget the emptiness and crazy atmosphere after the lights went on in the academy.... And yes i know it was the first? ( after rehearsing, and 3 shows before...mmmmm?) And i hope thet will adjust and improve. I will go and see them a few more times....but if at show 18 in Holland it is still the same poor quality and mistakes and setlist, i will sell the tickets to the other concerts i think, as this is everything but a satisfying show with respect for and to the man who was Queen. People calling me this and that for writing my own personal, hard but honest feelings down have more than likely never had the privilege to have seen the real thing other than from vi |
proton 31.03.2005 02:15 |
I think some fans are much too critical, it's not just the new band, also with tribute bands. There's been a lot discussion about those in the past. For me this band is something between a tribute band and the real thing, with 2 of the original members. We're fans, we're not like those f*cking journalists (who are surprisingly positive this time though). Emtpy your head, go to the shows for entertainment and don't compare with the old Queen, that's like comparing Apples with Pears... I don't care if there are 3 or 4 Freddie songs only. I'm going to the shows for entertainment, to sing my blo(o)dy heart out. Come home late without a voice, to have that old group queenfan feeling again, all those fans together. Try secretly to smuggle in a camera to make pics to have something as a memory. To empty my wallet at the merchandize stand :-) Ofcourse Paul needs to keep working on his lyrics, being a proffesional I am confident he will. Bare in mind that this is a guy who did not know any Queen lyrics at all and had to learn about 20 queen songs in a month. That's not easy! For us it is! We can dream those songs. The band will get better, no doubt about that. But they should have added 2 more weeks to practise and Paul should have started learning lyrics maybe even earlier. But the timeslot may have prevented that. For me, I have to wait till the 25th for my first gig, show 17 I guess? After 16 shows, I can only expect a great evening :-) Freddie v.t.Beek Netherlands |
Kissarmygirl 31.03.2005 02:39 |
I understand Basje totaly. Thats why i wont go to any show.. I know i would compare it with the real Queen. If i go to see a tribute band I know that it wont be QUEEN. Then again I can understand you too Freddie. I do hope you have a great time and i say that to all the fans that are going to a concert! |
The Real Wizard 31.03.2005 02:57 |
I see where Bas is coming from on a lot of points. There definitely doesn't seem to be much Freddie input into this tour so far... For those of us who never saw Queen, it is a great opportunity to see something like Queen. But for those who did see Queen, probably nothing can compare to Freddie's stage presence. That's why Rodgers is being cut to shreds, even though Paul and the others have said he's not trying to be FM. This isn't Queen, but it's the closest thing we'll get. Can't wait to see them. |
deleted user 31.03.2005 02:59 |
so this a thread that started about poeoples opinions about what i believe was a great Queen show, i wasnt there but thats what iv been told, and this thread has gone from honest opinions, "great show", "they performed that really well" etc etc Then you come to htese last few pages and its aarguements all over again, i saw this in another thread and i got tired of it, why must we argue all the time just becos someone has had their opinion, its like soon as omeone says something different they automatically get thrown into an arguement or get insulted, its not having an opinion anymore, its childish arguements, and wots worse is when i see someone getting insulted i dont see someone havin an opinion, i see BULLYING which makes me really sick, seeing bullying on a Queen site. Its pathetic childsplay. |
YourValentine 31.03.2005 04:18 |
Basje's opinion is as valid as anybody else's. Personally, I do not care who earns the most money from the tour, I am convinced that Freddie's family does not go hungry. I did not see an attempt to deny Freddie's input but I think the tour is not meant to be a Freddie memorial tour, it's a new chapter in the Queen history and that is okay. I did not like the BoRhap thing with Freddie singing from the screen, I thought it was sentimental rubbish but many other people liked it, so it's probably a good idea. True, they made many mistakes but we knew that in advance, it was the first show, things will get better. From the start I was not sure if it's a good idea to travel to London and pay so much money for the first show but I am glad I did. My expectations were not that high, therefore I could not be so disappointed as Basje was. And I did not see the kids crawling behind the drums :) I would have wanted a different setlist but I can see that they chose the songs that have the most mass appeal. I also thought that the PR material and Queen material does not merge too well but that is because I am Queen audience and not PR audience. It was obvious that PR felt much more comfortable with his own songs but that will sure change in the course of the tour. |
Mr. Scully 31.03.2005 05:02 |
I wouldn't call this interpretation of BoRhap a good idea but I don't think they had any other choice. They HAD to play it, otherwise many fans (yes, me included), would be disappointed. And if I can choose between Rodgers' vocals or Freddie's playback vocals, I think the latter option is better. |
Knute 31.03.2005 05:11 |
Well, I hope they come to the states so I can review a show. One thing is for certain, I won't hold it against them that they can't possibly be what they used to be. I will be grateful and thankful that Brian and Roger are playing together on a stage in the US for the first time in two decades. I will be in the moment and I will enjoy watching masters at their craft. If they do something that I don't find all that good, I'll be more forgiving than spiteful towards them. After all, these musicians have done nothing but make me feel good in my lifetime. Why in the hell would I harbor any ill will towards them at all. They don't owe me a thing, in fact if anything, I feel like I owe them my support. Which is what they get from this fan. |
proton 31.03.2005 06:23 |
I read that Paris was a better show, so after 1 gig improvement already :-) |
goinback 31.03.2005 07:53 |
Ok so how much of Track 13 was actually played? I've heard everything from 11 to 23 minutes (I'm guessing it probably just seemed liked 23 minutes :) Maybe they have some cool lighting planned for it when they have the rest of their lights. (Or they could just play it along with the end of the 2001: A Space Odyssey movie ;) Is there some kind of in-joke with Brian and Eminem? Does anyone know why that was used? What footage was used for the opera section of Bo Rhap? Just the original music video? I hope they come to the US because I really want to sing along with '39 live :) They had dropped that by the time I saw them in 1980 :( I don't know why people think that's such an obscure song...it used to get airplay, and one of my non-Queen fan friends in college here in the US knew it about 10 years ago. And yay there wasn't ANOBTD! If they come here, I'm worried I'll cry when God Save The Queen plays at the end :) |
Fairy 31.03.2005 08:22 |
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Longpig 31.03.2005 09:48 |
To be fair Paul was the only one that looked like he couldn't handle a full set (or the crowd). PR was missing from the stage for a long time. Rog and Brian would piss it, and it would be better. There seems to be a misconception that people who didn't think PR was great, or who dared find any fault with the show is living in the past, or comparing the new band to the old band. Well I'm 25 and never saw the original queen, nor any of them solo, so I was starting from a blank canvas so to speak. Obviously I've seen DVDs and all that so I know what they were about. I was merely reflecting from my experiences of other concerts and comparing them to this. Everyone was ace apart from PR. He's just not as good at what he does as Rog and Brian are. end of. £55 + a lot for postage and booking bollocks is a lot of money. Having seen Bowie 4 times in 2002/3/4 (I suppose one of the nearest comparisons to queen in terms of price, era/age, success) queen looked a fair bit off, even allowing for the fact they've not toured for a while. Bowie's setlist had songs for the fans whilst not ignoring the hits, and has a good balance between new, old, hits and rare songs. Hopefully queen will get there after a few shows, but the show I saw I reveiwed honestly as I saw it and I reckon PR isn't needed! LP |
LittQueenie 31.03.2005 09:51 |
Kissarmygirl, I hear ya! I totally agree - I would also compare them with the Queen as the world knew and knows it....and that's just not fair. I am re-thinking seeing this band when and if they come to the USA, whatever they need to be called, because this is turning out just as I feared....there is only 1 group named Queen and only half of them were on stage that night - how can that really be Queen????? They can put the + Paul Rodgers name on this tour all they want, but people are instinctively going to expect Queen - and that is just not going to happen. I really kind of feel sorry for Paul Rodgers...what big shoes he has to fill....as far as the kids on stage behind Roger, I agree with Basje on this one too - that's pretty unprofessional...I am pretty sure whoever's kids those were could afford a nanny or sitter for that night. |
Boy Thomas Raker 31.03.2005 09:58 |
Part of the problem here is getting valid criticism by someone without an agenda. Either it's the 'Paul sucks/Queen died in '91" camp saying the new line-up can do no right, or "the Stepfords" saying Queen can do no wrong. While understanding that Brian and Roger can't please everybody, and without having seen the shows to date, wouldn't these qualify as valid concerns from fans? 1. The setlist: It does seem very predictable. How about a gem here or there? I know it's a hard song to sing, but why couldn't 'Long Away' be incorporated into the 39/Love of my Life set once in a while? Or Liar, Sweet Lady, or Roger doing Drowse with Paul handling the lower vocal? A surprise here or there (it's early, but doubtful it'll happen) would throw a bone to long time fans. I wouldn't classify Seagull as a well known Bad Company song (I'm mildly familiar with BC), so why couldn't we get something obscure here and there? 2. The stage set-up: If these guys are good enough to tour with Brian, Roger and Paul, they're good enough to share the whole stage. Saw The Who with Pino Palladino on bass, he was very much a Deacon/Entwistle stage presence, but they weren't trying to bury him in the back, as the did with the keys and second guitarist who played behind the drums, virtually out of sight. It looked and felt weird, like they were session musicians playing a gig, not part of a band. Is it possible they'd change this set-up to make for more interatction? 3. The opening: Reaching Out, as described, is bizarre. Paul Rodgers as the first guy on stage at a Queen show in 20 years, playing acoustic guitar to an unknown song? Terrible choice. 20 minutes of track 13 is ludicrous also. Of course I haven't seen the show, but I also haven't seen the musical and know that the story is ludicrous and cliche. |
Mr. Scully 31.03.2005 10:11 |
"Ok so how much of Track 13 was actually played? I've heard everything from 11 to 23 minutes (I'm guessing it probably just seemed liked 23 minutes :)" No, 23 minutes were played, I know that for sure :-) "Is there some kind of in-joke with Brian and Eminem? Does anyone know why that was used?" Maybe because Eminem borrowed part of WWRY for one of his songs, if I remember well?... who knows... At least it was Lose Yourself (I think) which is the only Eminem's song that I know :-) "What footage was used for the opera section of Bo Rhap? Just the original music video?" No, some mixture. For the balladic part they used Live At Wembley video, for the opera part it was a mixture of videoclip and some other footage, if I remember well. "I hope they come to the US because I really want to sing along with '39 live :) And yay there wasn't ANOBTD!" I couldn't agree more! :-) |
Penetration_Guru 31.03.2005 14:04 |
How does the use of more B/R songs generate more income than using Freddie ones? You don't get royalties from performing a live song, otherwise tribute bands & pub bands couldn't exist. I still (on a ahem second listen) can't hear many lyric errors, and I think any vocal performance differences should be treated the same way as Brian's "re-interpretation" of LOML, '39 (technically he missed verses out and changed the words, since we're being extra picky) and the Alright Now riff, ie part of a live performance, and to be expected. Finally, does this mean that Basje's recordings (I refuse to believe he didn't make any) will be cheaper as he perceives it to be sub-standard? |
LittQueenie 31.03.2005 14:14 |
HAHAHAHAHAHA - PenetrationGuru, Basje did probably try to do some recordings........sorry, Bas, my love.....that's just too funny!!! LMAO! |
Erin 31.03.2005 14:27 |
Mr. Scully wrote: "Ok so how much of Track 13 was actually played? I've heard everything from 11 to 23 minutes (I'm guessing it probably just seemed liked 23 minutes :)" No, 23 minutes were played, I know that for sure :-)So what were people doing for that whole time?? Last trip to the toilet, going for a drink, rolling their eyes, checking their cameras, jumping up and down in anticipation? The Eminem thing is just weird, I'm sorry people.. |
Rien 31.03.2005 17:01 |
In Paris most of the audience (I guess the part of the audience that was French) just boo-ed during the eminem track to show they did not like this part at all. During the rest of the show the audience was really great by the way. In my view Queen is building up the tension with the Queen intro, then confusing the crowd with this non-Queen track (everybody's wondering what on earth is going on) and then just blowing everyone away with the next Queentrack. Very tongue-in-cheek I believe. Paris really ROCKED. Brixton was very intimate and one could doubt if the show would be allright 2 days later in Paris, but I think it was. The lights, the music, the interaction with the audience also by Paul went great. Oh and it was nice to meet you in Brixton, Martin. btw I've just read Basjes report and his disgust about the Queen show. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and let Brian know what you are telling the folks here on Queenzone instead of kissing Brian's ass at the gate where he took the time to shake hands with his fans? Actually don't bother, because Brian is aware of things. |
LittQueenie 31.03.2005 17:37 |
uh-oh, did Rien just bust Basje? Here we go.... |
bas asselbergs 31.03.2005 18:19 |
Penetration_guru...NO, i did NOT record. I am NOT a bootlegger. Never was, never will be. Rien: my opinion is - as written- my own and honest opinion. The fact that they fucked up the show, it was disaster all over, doesn't mean i do not like to see my long time hero and get a chance to talk with him. Those are 2 different things. I am never kissing off people. I am too well known for that ! As a matter of fact, just to let you know, i DID mail Jim Beach, Phil Symes, Paul Rodgers and Brian myself with ALL my feelings and disgust.I told them exactly what i think of it all, and gave them a few ideas and suggestions too, but ignorant and full of yourself as you are (with your ego-all-over, self promoting -look-how-good-i-am-and-everything-i-do, site of yours) ofcourse you didn't know this! Well darlings, I am man enough to face them and tell them it was shit from a to z. I am by NO means a coward like you. I am not the back chat type of person that you have proven to be many times.... I have seen more Queenshows than many others on this forum, and i know what i am talking about. I can tell the differences between good and bad. I see things happening that you are just too shortsighted for to see happening, and even if you were looking at them, you wouldn't even know what you were looking at at all. Little things, moves, signals, looks in the eyes, the people around in the curtains, i see EVERYTHING. you just stare at Brian and Roger... But, this is NOT to be continued. I have let out some steam and got rid of some pressure here and now, but i will NOT and NEVER tolerate others (who do NOT even know me, or anything about me, other than from hear-say stories)to give me a bad name and accuse me of things i do NOT do! So, if you 2 do NOT apologise to me for the insult or accusations you have spread on this world wide web for all to see and read...pray you won't see me at a show....because i am man enough to face you guys in person too, and then you may try to be a hero and make my day by stating these false and incorrect statements right in my face...if you have the balls to do so! Don't tease me if you don't know how to handle me in person. Through the safe distance that the internet offers, you are cowards enough to throw with dirt. Do that right in my face...please! end of discussion.period. i'm done. Basje |
LittQueenie 31.03.2005 18:22 |
GO BABY GO!!!!!!! :-) |
TheGame 31.03.2005 18:22 |
Oh my god, grow up people! |
LittQueenie 31.03.2005 18:26 |
Oh just having some fun.........relax! |
bas asselbergs 31.03.2005 18:56 |
QUEEN + paul rodgers........ THAT is how THEY call this tour. If they want to use the name QUEEN, they should live up to the expectations of the fans, who are drawn to these concerts, paying vast amounts of money for tickets, travelling and staying there, with a spectacular show that is worthy of having the name QUEEN on the posters. The name QUEEN has a magic about it, because of the history of the band, their back-catalogue and the live performances that were always packed with entertainment, audience interaction and new daring, inventive and creative stunts and gimmicks. The fans hope to get something close to the famous history and name that Freddie established during his days. Ofcourse i know there will NEVER EVER be a 2nd Freddie, or somebody coming close to what he could, BUT....that doesn't mean that the band as it is formed now, shouldn't do their very best to play a decent 3 hour show, with more of Freddies songs in it, and the songs that WE, the paying clients who make them rich, the customers so to speak, want and hope and expect to hear! Don't Stop Me Now. Somebody To Love. Save Me. Spread Your Wings. Keep Yourself Alive. Play The Game. Teo Torriate. Friends Will Be Friends, Dear Friends. Killer Queen. Sheer heart Attack. ....etc etc etc...all are missed. But in a 1.5 hrs show and an encore of 3 short songs plus the stupid 11:43 minute intro you can't get them all in...but if they would give a standard and normal 3 hour show like any other top-act does, it can be played...all of it. Easily. The sentiment that the name QUEEN touches within people, makes them want to come and see the show. But if the people on stage try SO hard NOT to make it something like, or coming close to something you could call a QUEENshow, then the dissappointment will come. After the show in Brixton, the hall was empty within a few minutes, and at the gate were the band would leave, there was only a handful of fans waiting. Brian didn't even want to sign one item. It was a crazy atmosphere after the show, and people were leaving feeling.......? shattered....!? If they use the name QUEEN to sell tickets, then we may very well demand a QUEENshow back in return for the expensive tickets. Now they are doing everything to make it the farrest thing away from a QUEENshow. They had better called it : The Brian May Band meets SAS-band, featuring guest drummer Roger taylor and Paul Rodgers, THEN this setlist and all would be just. NOT QUEEN and this wannabe greatest comeback in the music industry of all times.... The show must go on...ofcourse...but this is NOT a show that is worthy of the name QUEEN if it is pulled off like this. 1/2 Queen is correct. I do love to hear the fireplace screaming and tilting the house...i love to watch Roger beat the skins like a devil, and it is always fun to see jamie, spikey and miranda on stage, but by NO means were they part of a band called QUEEN on stage. They were merely co-orchestra on the side, with hardly any part in the show as bandmembers. Put Brian on the left, Jamie on the right, miranda right from the drums, and spike left from roger ...then there wouldn't be this 3-some band playing their own show between them on the leftside of the stage. Merchandise is strange too... this chicken like crest...shows that QUEEN are chicken? Not daring enough to play Freddies songs and a full QUEENLIKE-SHOW with pride? they think and talk as if it were wrong to play a QUEENshow LIKE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM DO? I think they would make more people happy by doing just thát, than this Brian May Band spinn-off without all the QUEEN ingredients that the name QUEEN + paul rodgers promises. |
deleted user 31.03.2005 19:05 |
Good post, Rien. |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 00:01 |
Rien wrote: btw I've just read Basjes report and his disgust about the Queen show. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and let Brian know what you are telling the folks here on Queenzone instead of kissing Brian's ass at the gate where he took the time to shake hands with his fans? Actually don't bother, because Brian is aware of things.Isnt this a forum where u can talk bout things? Basje felt terrible bout the concert so? Hes not allowed to say that inhere? Its HIS opinion! like you have ur opinion! He doesnt speak outta of QUEENS name now does he? Shaking Brian hands(or kissing his ass to use ur words) has NOTHING to with an opinion at all! I stick to my opinion why I dont go to any show at all...because to me its looking at a tribute band. Are u going to bash me for my opinion too? And no I didnt shake Brian hands or kiss Brians ass. |
Oberon62AU 01.04.2005 00:03 |
bas asselbergs wrote: the last posts after my reaction were NO WAY an opinion anymore about the brixton show as this topic should be replied to, but merely other people judging other people and having their narrow-minded opinion ready and start throwing names and a verdict .... |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 00:05 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Finally, does this mean that Basje's recordings (I refuse to believe he didn't make any) will be cheaper as he perceives it to be sub-standard?Oh and even he did record the show..You wouldnt even think bout the fact to get a copy huh now do you? |
Oberon62AU 01.04.2005 00:09 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I see where Bas is coming from on a lot of points. There definitely doesn't seem to be much Freddie input into this tour so far....Thats the thing tho... why would there be much Freddie input? Freddie - very regrettably - is no longer with us. He wont be there to sing the songs or plan the setlist etc - that obviously has to have an impact. If there was more "Freddie" in the set then no doubt there would be lots of people out there bitching that they are riding on Freddies coattails, that they cant do it on their own. If they DONT have a lot of Freddie.. people bitch that theres no Freddie. They cant win with some people. Just reading the Brixton threads shows that. The one thing about the show that one poster loves, is the one thing another poster hates! Ah well... I just hope they bring the show here to Perth so I can go see it! :) Cheers Steve |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 00:14 |
Oberon62AU wrote: Ah well... I just hope they bring the show here to Perth so I can go see it! :) Cheers SteveWell atleast you have the chance to see another one of my favo bands, also a tribute band nowerdays btw. LOL! |
bas asselbergs 01.04.2005 01:39 |
To me, it is very clear that Freddie is no longer here, and he IS very much missed. But Queen as Brian and Roger call themselves was the 4 of them. To go touring under the banner of Queen, they should give a Queenshow. This was a far too short, predictable and easy setlist with no surprises or extras. Queenshows were always famous for those qualities. This was a bad version of a Brian May Band show, not a Queen show or anything that could have the name Queen attached to it. 11:43 minutes boring intro, then a NOT queensong to open the show, 90 minutes, 3 encores. To use the name Queen, the playingtime should be 3 hours minimum. Support-act first. Surprises. Crownjewels. Extras. Spectacular opening. Climax. bring on the strippers i would say! This was NOT a show to be proud of. And they played what THEY wanted to play, easy and safe. like cowards. And what they played sucked from a to z. TOO many mistakes in solo's and words and timing. Technically a lot went wrong. The magic didn't happen. The fire went out. And we are paying to hear Queensongs, and that was the 4 of them. So the songs we want to hear ( read new topic ) are missed. Ask people what they loved most and it will be Rogers version of IILWMC . Why? because it was the ONLY song that brought back the genuine Queenfeeling and many memories. Even if it was Roger doing that alone. I read the Paris show was already better. Oh, i do hope to read about changes and improvement after every show they play, and that by the time i see them again it will all be okay. A full 3 hours show. Gems. Surprises. etc...etc... Then it might be called a Queenshow. This was a bad try out instead of a spectacular openingshow of what they call "the greatest comeback ever in the musicindustry". Thát it most certainly was NOT. Your opinion is a fair one. And i hope to write a positive and enthousiast piece after my next visit, wich will be Antwerpen. But before i write something positive, they must deserve it ! I am NOT going to be hurray hurray and amen if it was as bad as the Brixton show. |
proton 01.04.2005 02:07 |
Well, at least Basje is giving his opinion in large detail :-) Better than some stupid remarks like those critics mostly do in the papers :-) On the part of the setlist, I do agree that it needs some adjustment, other songs, longer setlist. 3 hours is f*cking long, but 2.5 it should be at least I think. 2 hrs is kinda short. Basje talks about 90 mins, but I have read several times that it was 2 hours, said by fans and also press said it. some fans even timed it. 2 hours, from when M&M started till GSTG.... |
Oberon62AU 01.04.2005 03:53 |
Kissarmygirl wrote: Well atleast you have the chance to see another one of my favo bands, also a tribute band nowerdays btw. LOL!Sorry... youve lost me there. Who is your favo band that is coming to Perth that I could go see? Steve |
Rien 01.04.2005 04:36 |
I fully agree that everyone is free to say what they want here, and others may respond to that. Basje included. He sure gives a strong opinion about what he feels, his posts makes one to react (including me). He does make a statement here and I appreciate that far more than all those worthless posts about AIDS, homosexuality, useless questions that can easily be answered by searching the net or all those "what if..."-questions. But I feel he's slagging Queen off just too much. When a whole stadium goes wild of enthousiasm during this show than I feel it's unfair to criticize just everything about this show. I think he should be more objective, but above all he must be himself. There will never be a real Queen show again and we all know it. But I think it's great to hear them play again. This show is a mixture of Queen songs, Paul Rodgers songs and Brian's solo material. I think Brian is the driving force behind this tour and that wont go unnoticed. Even the musical is being promoted during the concert and even I think this is not the place to do that, but it's part of the present success of Queen. Let's not forget that all those shows we now have on dvd go back 20 years or more. This is a different era. Sure I miss a lot of Queensongs in the show, just as Basje says. I'm not sure they will change the setlist much but we shouldn't judge this whole tour after seeing only the first (tryout?) gig in Brixton. There are some special moments in the show, especially when Brian does two tracks with the audience. Freddie is sadly missed during one of those tracks and I think Brian is feeling that too (and showing it). Above all, we must appreciate that they're back on the road again. There's a whole generation that has never seen them perform before. About slagging off myself and my site? My site is a reflection of me experiencing Queen. If you cannot stand that, please don't go there. Sure I like all the positive reactions and it feels good if someone likes what you offer. That's only human. And you, Basje, cannot stop talking about your own experiences concerning Queen. You're proud of that and you want everyone to know it. All your achievements. All those things you have wittnessed or experienced and all the things you've bought or all those recordings you have or even made yourself, all those things wouldn't have happened if you just had been sitting at home in your chair. No, you worked for it, spending money for it, even travelled the world for it. You're proud of that and you're damn right about that. But so am I. I've seen Queen perform in the past, I've travelled to many places as well to see all the things I've seen. Standing outside in the night for hours hoping to shake hands with my heroes. To be part of it and to make dreams come true. One of those dreams was meeting Brian in person. And I tell everyone I see that the first time I saw Brian after the tryout of the musical was because of you. You're the one that convinced me to go to the last tryout of the musical when we met in London in 2002. We had a great time and I've told this story to a lot of people since. And no, I'm not kissing your ass by saying that, it's just the way it is. |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 04:38 |
Oberon62AU wrote:Hence my nick dear :)Kissarmygirl wrote: Well atleast you have the chance to see another one of my favo bands, also a tribute band nowerdays btw. LOL!Sorry... youve lost me there. Who is your favo band that is coming to Perth that I could go see? Steve |
LittQueenie 01.04.2005 11:01 |
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Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 11:07 |
ACE! RULES! Im crazy I know AWK! LOL! |
LittQueenie 01.04.2005 11:13 |
GO GIRL!! :-) |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 11:19 |
CMON QUEENIE! BLUE EYED MEANIE! HEHEHE |
LittQueenie 01.04.2005 11:21 |
You are so great!!!! Thank you!! That's me alright!!! :-) |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 12:25 |
I know im great hehehe |
LittQueenie 01.04.2005 12:26 |
you betcha!! :-) |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 13:10 |
Thanx for the link |
Two Sharp Pencils 01.04.2005 13:15 |
Amazing... simply amazing... |
Kissarmygirl 01.04.2005 13:47 |
What is? |
bas asselbergs 01.04.2005 15:07 |
RIEN...okay then, now this is more like the Rien i met in London. It is SO easy to throw with dirt. I am NOT like that, but when attacked i react fiercely. I am proud of all i have done , seen and achieved. But i do not expose and display that on my own site, although i could probably make a very beautiful one, that would take a year toi see and read in total. I know i am a good fan, a good person and very direct. Everything i have done was on my own expence and input and effort. I know that there are many people who only know me from hearsay gossip and so...very few people i have invited in my house, and i became very vareful with getting people to witness my enormous collection. It is truly a Queenfans walhalla. I did give tea-parties in the past, but when the people left i was always missing things from my collection, and i stopped that. Later i would see my items being set sale on queenmeetings....the people trying to avoid to look me in my eyes....ask Rinus, he has been stolen from by so called fans so often.... That is why i am a loner....and keep my distance. People say then that i am arrogant...?? Nobody really knows me, where i come from, what i did and do and why....but jealousy , envy, and not knowing me makes things worse...i have been falsely accused of things i didn't do so many times...and i am just sick and tired of defending myself all the time...but i will still not let it happen...i can't stand injustice. Brian knows i will be around. yes. brian knows my critics and i can imagine he is hurt, that he couldn't please a longterm fan like me, and i know he will want to get me happy too.....he is stilkl a perfectionist. If he listens to what i write, a miracle could happen if the band takes it to heart and adjusts a few things here and there. Brian knows i have great knowledge about Queen and am a loyal enthousiast fan with a great collection. We have met 30 times or so, and at many times it was afterparty and backstage...i sent him films of all that and he is appreciative of that. He has always remained correct to me, even if i pissed him off or made him angry...in the end he always came back, got the right story and okayed me again. In London, in Munich, and yes...also in Brixton. So...lets stop this chit chat, lets look forward. Light a candle and pray that brian will take Queen Back to the Light again.... |
Daz85 03.04.2005 07:20 |
Finally got back from a long stay in London, and around to posting here I'll just make it 'brief'... the gig was of course excellent, with many great moments And it was the first time I'd seen any of them, so you can imagine I'd been waiting for the moment for a long time! I was standing pretty much in the middle, and about 8-9 rows from the front (Mr. Scully... where you behind me in the 'QueenConcerts.com' t-shirt?!) - so a pretty decent view. The 'Track 13' intro was excruciatingly (sp?) long, and the lady in front of me "Where's John Deacon?!?!!!" didn't help matters lol! The Eminem intro was interesting, particuarly since I read Brian's quote earlier in the day mentioning the lyrics - a nice touch. When Paul Rodgers emerged initially on his own, I think a few people were left slightly confused... but the 'Reaching Out' intro worked beautifuly in my opinion, with Brian appearing at the end and before getting straight into a thunderous 'Tie Your Mother Down' with the curtain dropping to reveal the rest of the band! People seemed to push forward at this point, and with a rail in front of me, I couldn't go much further lol! In particular for me, I was VERY impressed with Roger - not only was he looking great, he was hitting the drums with force and energy that hadn't probably been seen in years! I told my Dad, who was with me, that I hope they play "I'm In Love With My Car"... well, not only did they, but Roger played it while drumming - something he hasn't done for a few years, and played it just as well. The only parts that I felt were a bit 'flat', were Paul's acoustic intro to 'Crazy Little Thing' and 'A Kind Of Magic'... it just seemed a bit 'hollow' to me. And yes, slightly dissapointingly, the setlist was quite 'safe' with no real suprises. With so many songs between them, it's hard what to leave in a keep out... but I hope they include at least 'Innuendo' when they return to the UK. I think as they grow more confident, they'll add more material etc. Oh, and the video 'hand clapping' graphics for 'Radio Ga Ga' should go... this isn't the musical you know 'Bo Rhap' featured Freddie on the video screen (footage from Wembley '86) and was very touching. You could see the emotion on Brian and Roger's faces as they played their parts before the opera section. I notable felt quite moved when Brian played the first solo - the image of Freddie on screen playing the piano with Brian's solo was very touching. Paul singing the 'rock' section worked very well I thought, and brought a great new dimention when singing the line "nothing really matters..."... very nice. 'Hammer To Fall' through me off, as the opening chords sounded very much like 'It's Late' It wasn't until Brian started singing until I obviously realised what it was lol! Now don't have a go at me, I am familar with the slow version ha! To sum it up - a great gig, with great musicians and great crowd. Not perfect, but you can see the immense potential this has, and can only grow stronger. And it was just the warm up! I can't wait until they get to Birmingham - no doubt a well oiled machine (and hopefully a few setlist changes)! OOh, only had time to grab a programme... some nice big pictures of them in the rehearsal studio but sadly no text. Perhaps they'll issue a different version as the tour progresses (with live shots?)? I'd like to get a t-shirt, though I'll have to wait a bit longer if QO.com arn't selling them... grr. |
eggy 03.04.2005 07:39 |
You must have been right next to me Darren. I was in a blue T-shirt. Mainly scanning the horizons for fit women - then gave up! |
YourValentine 03.04.2005 08:12 |
What's a "fit woman", eggy? :) You must have been right behind me, Darren. |
Daz85 03.04.2005 08:31 |
eggy - did I talk to you about our fondness of 'Track 13'?! UV - I think I was directly in front of Mr. Scully (if that was him wearing the black t-shirt with 'link on it lol!). He was talking about how he hoped his minidisk player would hold out all night lol! Were you with him? I was wearing a white, long sleeve shirt and blue trousers. I think saw Rien walking down the the LONG que past me too. |
eggy 03.04.2005 08:52 |
I think the whole of Brixton didn't know what was meant by "fit women" that nigh!! Darren - If you who I think you were, then yes! We were standing right next to each other before the gig and some people got inbetween. YV was directly in front of me. |
Daz85 03.04.2005 09:20 |
Sounds about right! Is UV the short lady with the dark curly hair? You were defo wearing a blue shirt, and there was somebody there with a back-pack unzipped? |
YourValentine 03.04.2005 14:43 |
Yes, that was me and Martin wore his queenconcerts.com shirt. Looks like I knew half the audience in person and the rest from the internet:) Too bad you did not introduce yourself to Martin, it would have been nice to say hi. |
bas asselbergs 03.04.2005 15:05 |
If Queen are NOT doing it for the money...but only to be able to play live again....then why did they hurry SO much? Why going on tour SO fast? Why not going in a studio, rehearse seriously for half a year, give Paul a chance to watch the Queen dvd's and learn the lyrics and the timing? Why not prepare properly and get a decent and full show on the road? With a lot of Freddies material? Or the songs that you can read in this forum on different topics? This is all done too fast, with far too little preparations. It woulod NEVER have happened like this in freddies days! Now Queen (?) are abusing the shows as rehearsals while we pay high prices for tickets to a show that should be fixed and finished and ready! Now we pay for improval try-outs....as in the Brian May . com is stated that they use the shows to get better. When Queen went on tour in the old days, they never did it before it was perfectly trained and was a finished product that they could charge people for to buy entrance tickets. In my opinion they had better wait half a year and train hard, practice and rehearse more, and also come up with some new and unknown songs as a reward for the fans and to make up for the high ticket prices. |
Rien 03.04.2005 15:56 |
Again I did not spot you there Barbara! Next time, just say hello to me, if you see me, ok? ! |
Daz85 03.04.2005 17:07 |
"Too bad you did not introduce yourself to Martin, it would have been nice to say hi." I know :-( I only knew of Martin by name (haven't seen a picture), so I didn't say anything in case I was wrong. When we arrived, it was 5:10pm and the que was filling up fast - we were very suprised as we thought we had got there 'early' and would have time to find a place to eat - that didn't happen! So it wasn't until we got to the venue I had a drink, and then had nothing to eat until we arrived back at our friends house, so I was a bit dazed. |
YourValentine 03.04.2005 17:15 |
I did not see you, Rien! |
Jimi 03.04.2005 17:38 |
Bass- i have to say i agree with a lot of your points although maybe not quite as vitriolically!! 1. Set list - disappointing 2. Performance - adequate but not sensational 3. Paul Rodgers - did ok but needs more work. 4. The one moment of pure joy was RMT doing Car. 5. Taylor pissed the gig. The one that really 'put it in'. What i would say is and this may have been mentioned but what fucks me off immensely is that if you break down the Queen tracks played you will find that virtually ALL were played on Brian or Rogers solo tours. Point - so did it really take that much effort to get this thing together. More so what fucks me off totally is the idea put forward that us 'hardcore' fans are in some way asking for too much. I understand the flow of a show by a major artist because thats what has got you there but we are talking about a band that sold millions yes millions of most albums so the audience is not dictated by single hits a la some poxy 80's band.It ISN'T some bizarre sect that can't appreciate the later stuff but just believes there needs to be a better recognition of what the band mean. Longpig touched on it with the Bowie axis.I came out of Brixton elated yet confused and the people i spoke to felt the same.I left the Brixton singing 'Told my girl i'd have to forget her rather buy me a new carburretor behind the mixing desk with some great guys (one in a HS t shirt from Elland road that we both attended) Where were the tracks we expected / longed for / drank discussing / analysed? Only one.........I'm in love with my car........... i rest my case. |
proton 03.04.2005 18:30 |
SIGH....what I see here is a bunch of fans analyzing, comparing with Freddie and the old Queen. Wanting TOO much of the old Queen in the new band! Maybe you should think a bit more about the organisation of such a tour, the money the band ACTUALLY gets from a price-ticket, the timeslot (Paul had planned gigs with his own band remember?). You're forgetting about the musical, the 3rd 46664 concert, Paul not knowing the Queen repatoire, the fact that only 10% of the crowd are devoted fans, the rest is general public. The fact that Roger and Brian did not plan a large tour, but demand was higher that they expected, so it became full scale. What the F*ck did you think they would gonna play???? Fairy Feller's Master Stroke? Marche of the Black Queen? Millionaire Walz? I'm going to 3 concerts, and have a damn good time! And scr*w the critics, fan or journalist! :-) I'll be having a ball, short nights, f*cked up voice, not matter what setlist they will play! No matter what note they will play or sing false. This is not just about particular songs, or who's singing them. these concerts have simply 2 great positive points: they're mostly QUEEN songs, and Roger and Brian are playing. I'm looking forward to seeing them live, together with other queenfans(friends) who I know. To go outside afterwards, with a satisfied feeling, chatting (if that's still possible without a voice :-) ) with fans i know about the seen gig. Old Queen: press kicks ém in the *ss, fans love them New Queen: press love them, fans kick ém in the *ss What a strange world this is.... |
proton 03.04.2005 18:48 |
quoting Basje: "give Paul a chance to watch the Queen dvd's and learn the lyrics and the timing? With a lot of Freddies material? It would NEVER have happened like this in freddies days!". Hmmm, Basje, I can remember that you said that you mailed Paul not to act too much as Freddie? If you'd done more research, you'd have known that Paul deliberately messes with the timing! Because that's his way of singing.... check brianmay.com Freddie's days? These are not Freddie's Days, Paul is not Freddie! And why sing a lot of Freddie material? Queen is not just Freddie's songs. YES, the setlist could have been a bit longer, YES, a few more (Freddie) songs would have been nice. But it's not the end of the world... Losen up, and enjoy! After all, you paid enough bucks for it! :-) I know it maybe hard for guys like yourself. Having seen so many Queen concerts, you're kinda spoiled. So this kind of reaction is quite logical. For people who haven't seen the old Queen live, it's easier to adapt and enjoy anything thats thrown at us. |
pastieman 03.04.2005 19:14 |
Well said Proton, we live in a strange world, my take on the tour for what its worth, enjoy and make the most of it. I was at Brixton, sadly its the only gig I am going to due to sell-out gigs and money. Brixton was great, came home with no voice, sore arms and feet, but had a wonderful time. What made it special I think was seeing all those waving arms in the air again, being part of a massive choir, made up mostly of Queen fans, meeting people and making new friends, and seeing 2 members from my fav band back on the road, playing live. We must treat this new chapter in the history of Queen as just that, a new chapter, you cant bring back the past, and none of us will forget it ever, Queen of old is locked away in our memory banks forever, and move forward with the new Queen. No matter what they did setlist wise they would be wrong, this in a way is a comeback tour, so all the hits would/should be played. If they played less well know songs, that only us old die-hard fans would know, then the new, younger fans, who have never seen them before would not be happy as they would want the hits that we all know and love. Once the tour is over then maybe a new cd, if they did this first, and played songs from it in the tour, that would be wrong for a lot of people, again because they want to hear the hits. As for people saying Roger is not playing like he used to, I have this to say, 1) he, like the rest of us is getting older, and cant do what he used to, 2) he has not played a full long set like this since 1986, even on his solo tours he did not play the drums all the time, in fact hardly played them at-all on the electric fire tour, 3) he looked and played bloody good to me. This may be the last chance we get to see them both live, so make the most of it, for those that say its not Queen, just go and enjoy, re-live what it was like to have your arms in the air clapping and singing, along with thousands of other fans, look around and feel the togetherness of it all. I did and it felt good, my only regret was that I could only get 2 tickets, I would have loved to share the experience with my son. Lets hope this is just the start, judgeing by Brian, Roger and Pauls reactions at Brixton, and how overwhelmed they seemed to be by our reaction and responce to them, I think they have only just begun. |
Mr. Scully 04.04.2005 02:30 |
Darren! You should have said hello. How many different people can wear a queenconcerts.com T-shirt?! :-) I met a lot of people there, in fact I stood next to a guy whom I didn't recognize at first but then he spoke to me and I found out that I met him at the Queen Heaven laser show in Munich and he gave me a setlist from the FM Tribute 2001. I also remember the woman in front of us that was screaming "John Deeaaaacon", I thought I'd kill her. I put a couple of very short Brixton MP3's on my site, if anybody is interested... It's just samples, to show what the gig sounded like. link (I'm sure my webhosting hates MP3 so I wonder how long they stay there). |
bas asselbergs 04.04.2005 06:42 |
As written, i was very disappointed about the whole, but also that i hope that they will improve, add, change, extend, grow, rehearse, and change it after every show into a good show with balance and spectacle and gimmicks....and listen to what song WE would like them to perform. Ofcourse i like to see them play live again. But the openingshow of the greatest and most obscure comeback in musichistory ....it wasn't that great to be called that....maybe, the last shows of the tour will be what the first should have been. I thought that Queen didn't do it for the money,,,,so why did they make such a hurry? why didn't they take proper time to study and rehearse before going on the road...now the shows are used by them as rehearsals, but we have to pay for them...we pay for a show, not try outs...and i think the first 10 shows or so will be used by the band as such...wich i think is not correct. There are few people out there who ever had the chance to see them live before, and in that perspective i am spoiled rotten yes...but even then should they have practised a bit longer before hitting the road. Mow the show is on the road, and i will look forward to seeing them again a couple of times...and i hope they will knock me off my socks with a blazing show, with entetainment, vreativity, gimmicks, stunts and interaction...and a frontman that is onstage more than backstage, and who knows his stuff. The voice is awesome, the drums are better thsan ever, the guitar remains the absolute nr 1 of all times, but it takes a hell of a lot more to make it a show that is worthy to carry the name Queen on the poster. The 3 on the left should become more part of the band, than being a band separated from queen on the left side of the stage. Ofcouse they are brilliant, but by all means, they should work themselves into the show, not stand aside and just accompany the Queenies... they had better use tapes then ! Queen were 4. This is 6 on stage, but the 6 now were less than half of the famous 4 in the past....and that i hope, will improve and change from now on... Will they dedicate tonights show to the pope? I must say that taking part in the general discussion is very educative...my opinion is mine, and maybe some of you learn to see things from a different perspective too, i certainly did. Thanx to you all for joining this topic with all your different views and opinions...it is truly very refreshing! Basje |
proton 04.04.2005 08:51 |
quote: "I must say that taking part in the general discussion is very educative...my opinion is mine, and maybe some of you learn to see things from a different perspective too, i certainly did. Thanx to you all for joining this topic with all your different views and opinions...it is truly very refreshing!" Well, that's what a forum is for right? :-) About this discussion: I have the feeling that your expectations of the new band are a bit too high... The new Queen can never be what the old Queen was! But there is room for improvement, I agree on that :-) Lots of room in fact :-) |
James999 04.04.2005 09:02 |
Hey i'm a fan, but one noticable absence were piano songs. i just thought some of them shoud have been thrown in. the best queen songs are where freddie played the piano chords and brian did amazing solos to tie it all together, like killer queen, or the millionaire waltz... disappointed that they were not included. also really disappointed stone cold crazy was not played or AOBTD anyway queen always disappointed people with their setlist, like wembley 86. how many piano songs that day, not one full one |
Daz85 04.04.2005 13:31 |
Martin - I know! I'm so silly! I regret it very much :-( Those mp3 samples on your site sound great! In fact, they sound clearer than what the gig sounded like at the time lol! Thanks for uploading - though any chance of uploading the full recording to re-live some memories? :-D |
Fenderek 16.01.2006 08:26 |
A nice read after all this time :) Remember the xcitment, guys? :) |
Jjeroen 16.01.2006 10:04 |
Yes, I certainly do! ;-) Just as much as the disappointment though! Thank God all turned out right afterall ;-) |
Richard Lopata (new email) 16.01.2006 14:11 |
I still think Brixton was great, since it was my first Queen gig ... The falling curtains in Brixton will stay in my mind forever!!! Hell ya!!! Detroit and St Paul: HERE WE COME |
Jjeroen 16.01.2006 15:05 |
Hey, You're going to be in Detroit too, Ries??!! |
Mr. Scully 17.01.2006 04:06 |
Indeed, the falling curtain in Brixton is something that I will never forget :-) Barbara has made two excellent photos of that moment - one photo shows Brian and Paul, back-to-back, Brian smiling; the other photo is of the falling curtain. Worth seeing :-) |
Fenderek 17.01.2006 04:13 |
Yep, I think this falling courtain in Brixton was the defining moment for me... The courtain was down, there was nothing more to hide- they were alive and kicking! |
YourValentine 29.03.2007 04:51 |
Draggimg this up for sentimental reasons - already two years since Brixton! |
Daveboy35 29.03.2007 11:47 |
Wow that's right my god that's gone quick it will be 2 years since cardiff for me on may7th. |
Voice of Reason 2018 30.03.2007 07:52 |
Yes indeed, two years. The Brixton gig was such a disappointment. Didn't know the tour was going to get so much better! Unfortuntely a friend I brought to Brixton missed out on Birmingham, so that's his only memory! Cheers. |
Erin 30.03.2007 11:08 |
Erin wrote: I feel nauseous with envy..;-) If they don't come to America, I may need some sort of psychiatric assistance!^ Thank goodness I saw 'em! I would be posting from the looney bin if they hadn't of toured here. ;-) |