doremi 15.03.2005 17:51 |
I like the Cure alot... I Love Queen!!!! But I HATE that Robert Smith rags on Queen. During last summer's Cure comeback, in an interview Robert Smith did in Rolling Stone Magazine, he said "Don't even get me started on Queen. They're a comedy band". I could have kicked him right on the spot for that. Now don't get me wrong. Everyone, and every music artist is entitled their opinion, own thoughts, to like or dislike another artist for creative reasons that are substantiated. But to just act like a jealous spiteful, child hurling unsubstantiated insults, is downtright ignorant. Queen was NEVER a comedy band. And look who is talking. I love The Cure's songs "The Lovecats" and "Lullaby" but really, those songs are intended to be totally whimsical outrageous fantasy and "comedy". And for a supposed Goth band, The Cure and Robert Smith's image are about as hilarious as it gets..really. Queen of course had tongue in cheek humor, many artists do from The Beatles to Sting...but Queen are a rockin' genius band that are in about every music Hall of Fame there is, honored by Queen Elizabeth. Take that Robert! |
Zander05 15.03.2005 18:17 |
Robert Smith is such an asshole for having an opinion. *yawn* |
Victoria 15.03.2005 18:29 |
arlene wrote: I HATE that Robert Smith rags on Queen. Now don't get me wrong. Everyone, and every music artist is entitled their opinion, own thoughts, to like or dislike another artist for creative reasons that are substantiated. >>>>> But to just act like a jealous spiteful, child hurling unsubstantiated insults, is downtright ignorant.<<<<<<<< Take that Robert!I sense a hypocrite. Take that Arlene! |
Victoria 15.03.2005 18:47 |
PS - Who cares about Robert Smith anyhow? I'd never heard of him til you said something. |
Gunpowder Gelatine 15.03.2005 18:54 |
He's allowed to have an opinion, and we as Queen fans may not agree with it, but it's his liberty. Then again, it is ignorant to call them a comedy band, and that comment does make him sound slightly stupid. |
doremi 15.03.2005 19:12 |
Gunpowder Gelatine wrote: He's allowed to have an opinion, and we as Queen fans may not agree with it, but it's his liberty. Then again, it is ignorant to call them a comedy band, and that comment does make him sound slightly stupid.Totally Agree Darlings!!!! |
doremi 15.03.2005 19:20 |
Zander05 wrote: Robert Smith is such an asshole for having an opinion. *yawn*I cracked up at your reply, Right on the money! Another Darling...I love My Darlings who Love Queen and who love Freddie. I Love your website..Great Photos of Freddie, especially from The Magic Tour! I sent you answers to the Freddie Quiz, I hope I Did ok! Oh well, it's the thought that counts, eh! "If They Don't Get It, F**k Them darlings!!!!" |
Zander05 15.03.2005 20:34 |
Arlene, my comment was pure criticism. Robert Smith can listen to G4's version of Bohemian Rhapsody and compliment it 24/7 for all I care. It's his opinion. Not everyone in the music industry has to like Queen. For example, I listen to a lot of classic rock, but it doesn't mean that I like Van Halen (I try to avoid them as often as possible). Oops. Uh oh. Careful! I just bashed on a band that millions of people like! Riots are going to start any minute now... |
iGSM 15.03.2005 21:05 |
Good idea. Panama! |
Zander05 15.03.2005 22:38 |
I should rephrase. I don't HATE Van Halen, but I do find them overrated and David Lee Roth is annoying. And here in the states, A LOT of VH is played and it just gets annoying! |
Mr.Jingles 15.03.2005 22:57 |
I find it funny how Robert Smith says that Queen never did anything good when Queen has achieved way far more than The Cure. Besides The Cure always lived under the shadow of Depeche Mode, and those guys truly knew how to make dark synthesized music. The Cure for the most part sucked, and only had like 3 good songs. |
Scott_Mercury 15.03.2005 23:08 |
Arlene- Are you sure, as you are a "journalist" afterall, that you didn't just post this to fire everyone up?? Robert Smith sucks so much ass, that I think people would have respected a review from Uncle Jesse from "The Dukes of Hazzard" more than Robert "Friday, I'm in Love" Smith. Maybe Robert Smith's work could be traded in for a gram of shit in England, but in the United States, The Cure's career is about as hot as Michael Jackson's right now.... Actually thats not true...Michael is still more popular, as where at least he is still a celeberty. Robert Smith could shop at my local WalMart right now, and people would just think he is some quief that would lick Fruit Loops off Barry Manilow's ass if given the chance. Queen and Robert Smith shouldn't be in the same sentence.... Robert Smith better hope that even a "with it" 4 year old doesn't realize that he and Freddie Mercury both share the same occupation....when the 2 are compared side by side....is there even a comparison? NO |
Victoria 15.03.2005 23:23 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: ... some quief that would lick Fruit Loops off Barry Manilow's ass if given the chance.Hahahahahaha! XD ... I mean ... Ewwwww! :P |
Liquid Scream 15.03.2005 23:26 |
Uncle Jesse's interview would be damn short....he's dead!!!! As for Robert Smith, time to change the image buddy. His Edward Scissorhands look or whatever it's supposed to be is the real comedy here! Some looks just don't stand the test of time. |
GreatKingSam 16.03.2005 04:52 |
it MAY have POSSIBLY been in the same interview, as it was from at least a year ago, but i remember a quote from Robert Smith saying something like "you'll never catch me running around [like Freddie] with make-up on". yes, of course.... |
nino trovato 16.03.2005 08:36 |
An opinion is like an asshole... everyone has one and it sometimes is full of shit! So keep your big fat opinion to yourself Bobby!!! |
felix ibex 16.03.2005 10:28 |
Who Cares about Robert Smith..'Does He? One can only tell by his Lipstick what he is all about....Comedy Act! |
Negative Creep 16.03.2005 10:50 |
Caught him being interviewed on Jools Holland a while back & he came across as a tosser then, so.... jealousy usually brings out the worst in people. |
Mr.Jingles 16.03.2005 11:05 |
Robert Smith looks like the offspring of Edward Scissorhands and Star Jones. Being a goth is about looking fragile, skinny, and just plain weird (which worked for Robert Smith back in the 80s) but when you have 3 chins and weigh are 250 lbs like Robert Smith today, it just doesn't work. After all, Robert Smith and The Cure hit the fuckin' wall since 1992 the least. Queen's popularity (not counting The States) remained strong through most of their careers. |
Mr.Jingles 16.03.2005 12:12 |
He's entitled to his own opinion... ...but so are we! My suggestion for all of you guys who happen to like songs from The Cure, but hate Robert Smith is simple: Download all his songs illegally from the internet. I'm willing to e-mail people songs from The Cure as long as that keeps them away from buying their albums. |
doremi 16.03.2005 13:09 |
Ok, I went through my archives of clips, magazines and I found the Robert Smith Interview with Rolling Stone from this past summer. Actually, here it is word for word, quote, Headline for the actual Interview By Kirk Miller, "Robert Smith Draws Blood. The Cure Frontman embraces metal, but don't get him started on The Darkness" endquote of headline. Here's the specific Q&A that applies to Queen. Get ready as it's..worse than I remembered when I created this post......hope you are all sitting down.... Question by Kirk Miller KM: What do you think of The Darkness? Robert Smith: Well, I never liked Queen. I can honestly say I hated Queen and everything that they did. To have that rehashed and reheated for a second time around is pretty weird. So, no, I don't like the Darkness at all. I think they're a comedy band. (endquote) |
*goodco* 16.03.2005 13:16 |
as to what Robert Smith said 'Who's Robert Smith?' and I could really care less if he LIKED Queen or the Darkness. Who cares if I think the Darkness suck? |
k-m 16.03.2005 13:21 |
Well... That's a big difference. Robert Smith didn't say that Queen is a comedy band. He said it about The Darkness. According to Queen he just said he always hated their music, that's all. I think there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot of people who hate Queen, just like there is a lot of people who love it. It means that Queen's music doesn't leave you indifferent. That's good, isn't it? |
Victoria 16.03.2005 13:22 |
arlene wrote: KM: What do you think of The Darkness? Robert Smith: Well, I never liked Queen. I can honestly say I hated Queen and everything that they did. To have that rehashed and reheated for a second time around is pretty weird. So, no, I don't like the Darkness at all. I think they're a comedy band. (endquote)Pardon me, but does anyone else deduce from the previous quote of a quote, that he's refering to the Darkness as a comedy band??? |
nino trovato 16.03.2005 14:15 |
Thinking about it now, Smith must have been one of the punks back in the late 70's that dimissed Queen. The Sex Pistols, Clash etc. were at the front of that alliance. Doesn't really matter though, remember, Queen ended up playing in stadiums whereas The Cure are playing small venues. Yeah, tha's reason enough to hate them Bobby. |
ryancoke 16.03.2005 15:57 |
Yeah, even if they were a comedy band, THEY STILL KICKED THE SHIT OUTTA YOURS THERE, ROBERT! HA! |
Lady Cool Cat 16.03.2005 16:09 |
I know it's his opinion, but, How can he say that about a great band? ARGH!! |
Lady Cool Cat 16.03.2005 16:11 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: Who the fuck has even heard of Robert Smith? Darling, don't get so worked up; he's entitled to his opinion; even if it is a shitty one!!Yeah, you're right, but what a shitty opinion it is!!! |
1quen_fan 16.03.2005 16:39 |
Smith doesn't know what he is talking about. I'm gonna have to agree with Zander on this one.. he is an asshole.... Cheers |
akan 16.03.2005 16:49 |
Robert Smith is an asshole in my opinion. I like some Cure songs and i've been to their show in rome and it was a great concert but I don't like at all their idea of music.If you listen and play a Cure song you will see for sure that there are ALWAYS the same chords and always the same rytmichs.A professional musician has not to do that and has not to feel with this thinking way.In fact the Cure are the ONLY band to make music in this way; always the same themes, alwyas the same stories, always the same fucking shit. They were the opposite music to Queen. In my opinion Robert Smith is envy about Queen and about their music and about the concerts they were able to do. He will never be remember as a great musician apart for the "dark" movement people. |
Vad 16.03.2005 17:00 |
So friendly Arlene got what she wanted... start a useless riot. First, she mention Smith saying that Queen was a 'comedy band'. Then with the right quote at hand, it happens to be The Darkness the 'comedy band'. Smith said he hated Queen, which is not an insult but an opinion. And how did this board answered that opinion? calling Smith's music f***ing shit, at best. So who are those who are really insulting anything in the first place??? |
Scott_Mercury 16.03.2005 20:52 |
Vad- I think The Cure's music sucks donkey balls regardless of what he said about anything...if that makes you feel better. I am so use to the standard set by Queen, that The Cure just won't work for me. |
*3*Playful as a pussycat 16.03.2005 21:24 |
fucking asshole...that's all i have to say about him... |
cintiamarcelad@hotmail.com 16.03.2005 22:12 |
Come on. Doesn´t he know that make up is not fashionable anymore. why doesnt he make up with pink, violet or green?? Robert you have a lot of money , buy new ones!! :) |
sundar 17.03.2005 06:55 |
"It's alright to have an opinion" Really, however unfounded and unjustified it may be.If so, then please keep it to yourself, because nobody else wants to or needs to know about it. You have the liberty to speak the truth only, not to freaking lie.I don't think you have been given a voice to preach untruth.Like they say, "See no evil, Hear no evil", for a reason. Everybody has his/her rights, and as long as the rights of the innocent are not violated,I am happy. But it does'nt matter anyway I guess.Is the opinion of a mistaken/mislead idiot going to change facts ? |
Mr.Jingles 17.03.2005 07:35 |
When you dminish someone who has achieved far more than you have, you eventually come across as a complete fuckin' idiot... and that's what Robert Smith is. Fine if he doesn't like Queen, but in the end his own comments make him look like a total moron. If he wants to earn some respect (which he doesn't deserve much) he should shut his mouth and keep his comments for himself. After all, what has The Cure's contribution to music? The only thing they ever did was give gothic kids another reason to kill themselves. |
Serry... 17.03.2005 08:12 |
As well as in the Elton's case - I don't care about Robert's opinion. It changes nothing in my music tastes. But anyway this is especially for Mr Smith: Fuck you too! |
Another One Bites The Dust 17.03.2005 17:40 |
I cant believe what kind of a slack-jawed faggot would say something like that about Queen. If I was the interviewer, I would soo kick his ass. If I knew him personally, I would have already done away with him. |
Another One Bites The Dust 17.03.2005 17:42 |
Ooops, well The Darkness are kind of a "One Hit Wonder" so to speak. And by comedy band, he means its funny to watch them struggle with popularity. Robert Smith, I am sorry. You are the man. |
Another One Bites The Dust 17.03.2005 17:45 |
Wait, no, scratch that. I know who Robert Smith is now. I fuckin hate him. He's such a prick. If I ever see this guy, ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST, POW! Dead. Done. |
Another One Bites The Dust 17.03.2005 17:49 |
I think that the darkness are stupid, and they have achieved nothing but total stupidness. If there was an award for being stupid, they would win every time. So would Robert Smith. |
JohnC 17.03.2005 19:18 |
Who care's about that bitch from The Cure. He wish he had Queen's success. |
Maz 17.03.2005 22:19 |
Just for future reference, are we going to advocate namecalling, beatings, and possible death for anyone who expresses a negative or insulting opinion of Queen? |
merc 17.03.2005 22:40 |
Robert Smith has an opinion?? What an idiot! HOW DARE HE! Seriously....get over it people. I'm sure if we had a forum somewhere on the internet only for people who aren't really into Queen there would be a hell of a lot of people there. (YES, as hard as it is for you folks to belive, some people dont like Queen!) I'm not bagging Queen, they're awesome, but remember... there is a world outside this forum. Not everyone out there likes them, or HAS to like them, and just because they don't doesn't make them stupid, regardless of who says it. |
Sonja 18.03.2005 02:20 |
Exactly. Not everyone has to like Queen and Robert Smith is entitled to say his opinion. |
Mr.Jingles 18.03.2005 13:10 |
As I mentioned before, Robert Smith is entitled to his own opinion, but so do we. There's nothing wrong with bitching about The Cure or Robert Smith, after all they were the band that brought an obsession to all those gothic weirdos classmates everyone had. Chances are that if they still kept listening The Cure they might not even be alive, or probably ended up at a mental institution. |
Vad 18.03.2005 13:22 |
Zeni wrote: Just for future reference, are we going to advocate namecalling, beatings, and possible death for anyone who expresses a negative or insulting opinion of Queen?C'mon... on this board, I've seen people namecalling, beating and bashing Brian May himself for his opinions. Obviously some guy like Robert Smith has no chance against been turned into a bloody pulp. |
Mr.Jingles 18.03.2005 13:30 |
Vad wrote:I totally agree with you Vad.Zeni wrote: Just for future reference, are we going to advocate namecalling, beatings, and possible death for anyone who expresses a negative or insulting opinion of Queen?C'mon... on this board, I've seen people namecalling, beating and bashing Brian May himself for his opinions. Obviously some guy like Robert Smith has no chance against been turned into a bloody pulp. I've seen some people who have gone as bad as to defend Elton John, and bash Brian May. Seriously before getting over Robert Smith, perhaps people should get over Brian May and every single thing he's working on or writes on his soapbox. After all, they haven't gotten over the 5ive, Robbie Williams, and the Pepsi ad thing with Britney and Beyonce. |
JohnC 18.03.2005 13:59 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: Who the fuck has even heard of Robert Smith?Everybody, except you. |
Vad 18.03.2005 16:52 |
Shouldn't this topic be in 'General Discussion'? |
Into La Ment 18.03.2005 17:32 |
The Cure > Queen. Heh... I do like how Queen fans think they can ridicule the appearance of other bands. Can't remember Fat Bob going onstage with a crown or any of the rest of that ridiculous pomp. May as well just crucify myself now, before the Queen-obsessive lynch mob lacking in the capacity to accept the opinions of others come after me. |
Scott_Mercury 18.03.2005 21:03 |
Everyone is intitled to an opinion.... But here's the deal for the idiots that can't quite get this: You don't come into the Queen mecca and start bad mouthing Queen. If you do.... then you just it to start shit. At Queenzone, its a pretty safe bet your are going to find my Freddie Mercury fans than Robert Smith fans.... Are you really that suprised there was such a backlash? Sure, for what ever reason (deaf, low IQ, trailer trash..etc) I'm sure there are people that don't like Queen..... Not a problem in the least. Just keep you ass out of Queenzone. |
Maz 19.03.2005 00:23 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Chances are that if they still kept listening The Cure they might not even be alive, or probably ended up at a mental institution.Just like how the vast majority of Queen fans ended up gay? Remember, generalizations and stereotypes are bad. |
Scott_Mercury 19.03.2005 08:20 |
Zeni- Anyone can not like a band if they choose to. You just use your fucking head and assume that people on "Queenzone" don't want to hear how another musician thinks Queen suck. If Liberace has opinion of someone's piano playing, thats one thing....if Steve Vai throws in his .02 cents on a guitarist that is one thing... But Robert Smith??? How did this guy get a job as a singer?? I'm not so sure that Tiny Tim wouldn't make a better frontman. If the Cure pumps your nad sack that much, then start a Cure fan club, and you and their other 2 fans can talk about how horny Robert Smith's beer gut pregnancy makes you. Anyone with ears knows the music of Queen is complex, and distinct, and that Freddie Mercury's vocal strength was second to NONE during his reign. You don't have to like Queen, but do not insult the creativity and talent of their music.... many good bands couldn't come up with Bohemian Rhapsody if they had 200 years to try. __________________________________________________ By the way.... I'm 100% straight, but I am pretty sure you don't "end up" gay. I could be wrong, as many Cure fans have "ended up" super lame. |
Mr.Jingles 19.03.2005 09:52 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Zeni- Anyone can not like a band if they choose to. You just use your fucking head and assume that people on "Queenzone" don't want to hear how another musician thinks Queen suck. If Liberace has opinion of someone's piano playing, thats one thing....if Steve Vai throws in his .02 cents on a guitarist that is one thing... But Robert Smith??? How did this guy get a job as a singer?? I'm not so sure that Tiny Tim wouldn't make a better frontman. If the Cure pumps your nad sack that much, then start a Cure fan club, and you and their other 2 fans can talk about how horny Robert Smith's beer gut pregnancy makes you. Anyone with ears knows the music of Queen is complex, and distinct, and that Freddie Mercury's vocal strength was second to NONE during his reign. You don't have to like Queen, but do not insult the creativity and talent of their music.... many good bands couldn't come up with Bohemian Rhapsody if they had 200 years to try. __________________________________________________ By the way.... I'm 100% straight, but I am pretty sure you don't "end up" gay. I could be wrong, as many Cure fans have "ended up" super lame.Excellent post dude. |
Maz 19.03.2005 12:50 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Zeni- Anyone can not like a band if they choose to. You just use your fucking head and assume that people on "Queenzone" don't want to hear how another musician thinks Queen suck. ... If the Cure pumps your nad sack that much, then start a Cure fan club, and you and their other 2 fans can talk about how horny Robert Smith's beer gut pregnancy makes you.It's amazing. I make two comments that basically question why people feel the need to post such hostility, and I get labelled a die-hard Cure fan. Your words especially, Scott, warm my cuckholds. "Use your fucking head" and "pumps your nad sack" are quite clever, but I'm afraid I've been insulted worse before. Here's the thing that maybe a few lurkers have noticed. We never talk about The Cure. Never. No one on QZ, myself included, gives much notice to The Cure. Except on two occassions. Once, about a year of so ago, Danny (Mr Jingles) started a thread just like this, using the exact same quote of Smith's. As soon as that quote comes out, whether then or now, QZ rises up in united hatred of Robert Smith. This has nothing to do with appreciating music, as you try to point out Scott, and has everything to do with idol worship. Someone has the audacity to verbally insult one of my favorite bands and I'm supposed to wish they were dead? Where's the critical discussion of musical abilities? Where's the discussion of genre and talent? It's not there, and when someone like me tries to point this out, I get told to "use my fucking head." How classy. Scott_Mercury wrote: By the way.... I'm 100% straight, but I am pretty sure you don't "end up" gay. I could be wrong, as many Cure fans have "ended up" super lame.Allow me to elaborate, since you chose to read that as a literal comment. Danny made the comment that basically said that all Cure fans were goth nuts who committed suicide or went insane. I was merely pointing out that we can not make such wide ranging stereotypes, since there are many Conservatives and Red Necks (as you pointed out in another thread, Scott) that assume that Queen is nothing but a gay band. I can only assume that Danny has never had a family member commit suicide and he doesn't realize how stupid that comment was. |
Mr.Jingles 19.03.2005 13:17 |
Well I'm sorry if anyone felt offended for that comment, (more particularly anyone who felt affected by suicide or depression). Basically my comment was based that there are some people way too obsessed with The Cure, but it's no stereotype at all. Just find the avergae hard-core fan of The Cure and you'll see that these people are indeed depressing, and hardly ever listen to anything other than The Cure. At least you find that there's a huge wide variety of tastes and personalities among Queen fans. I have to agree with most of everybody's comments on The Cure, because what they've achieved very little in the music scene aside from creating a cult fan base. Queen on the other hand, has done a lot more, they have more fans, and appeal to a lot more people. Basically Robert Smith is nothing but an idiot who has reduced himself to diminish a band who he just happens to be damn jealous of their achievements. Doesn't quite surprise me since Robert Smith has been jealous of rock/pop stars who have achieved more success than he has since the 80s. |
Into La Ment 19.03.2005 19:56 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Just find the avergae hard-core fan of The Cure and you'll see that these people are indeed depressing, and hardly ever listen to anything other than The Cure.Pssssh XD I have pretty much every Cure album ever made, but I still manage to spend 98% of the time being stupidly happy and irritatingly optimistic. Plus I listen to hundreds of other bands. And I wouldn't say I'm not an "average" fan. Basically Robert Smith is nothing but an idiot who has reduced himself to diminish a band who he just happens to be damn jealous of their achievements.Is it really too difficult to concieve that someone may just... not like Queen's music? And they don't necessarily have to be ridiculously jealous? Sheesh- It's surprising how so many people can get all worked up over one little comment, anyway. Sure it sucks when someone likes something different to you, which may be percieved as questioning your taste. But not everything can be everyone's bag, baby. Chilllll... |
Scott_Mercury 19.03.2005 20:40 |
Thats right...tastes are different. If there was on band that everyone agreed was #1, then most music stores wouldn't have 50,000 cds in stock. Zeni- You seem like a pretty knowledgeable guy on music, and I would love to have an in depth conversation with you on various bands. I don't want Robert Smith dead.... he's made a good living creating music... more power to him. Does Robert Smith, and his 1 octave range voice have the right to hammer a legend like Freddie?? I don't know. But anyway, there is no way to have a "neutral" conversation about Queen in "Queenzone". This is so obvious it defies description.... You can talk about if Kiss is better than Aerosmith.... You can ask if Clapton's Cream years beat Hendrix's 1967-1970 era... But you can't come into Queen worship zone, badmouth Queen... and expect a neutral response. |