| luko 27.02.2005 10:49 |
does anone get really annoyed that no one can play the piano parts properly now that freddie is gone? this doesnt include the musical |
| Sebastian 27.02.2005 11:06 |
Depends what you mean by "properly". Differently doesn't always mean "wrong" |
| luko 27.02.2005 11:10 |
well for example "somebody to love" at the tribute concert. the piano introduction and the whole of the piano playing in that song sounds like it has had no thought put into it.it is just chords. spike plays it properly in the rehearsals so i wonder why the didnt let him play it. this might of been posted before but im not sure. |
| luko 27.02.2005 12:53 |
also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing? |
| brENsKi 27.02.2005 16:33 |
luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?there's hardly ever been a cover version done of ANY song anywhere that is better than the original the one reason for this is that the original composer knows how they wanted it to sound and (more importantly) feel - so this is a pointless argument if all you can do is pick fault in artists performing THEIR tribute the a fellow (dead) artist then - you really should get out more |
| ernie 28.02.2005 18:15 |
<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote:i wouldn't call the songs at the tribute "cover" versions per se cuz once u call it a cover version then it's a completely new argument about which is better. it's a tribute so it should be measured in a different wayluko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?there's hardly ever been a cover version done of ANY song anywhere that is better than the original the one reason for this is that the original composer knows how they wanted it to sound and (more importantly) feel - so this is a pointless argument if all you can do is pick fault in artists performing THEIR tribute the a fellow (dead) artist then - you really should get out more the somebody to love thing isn't bad though...it'd just be BETTER if the piano part could've been played the original way. BoRhap, on the other hand, is another story... |
| kohuept 28.02.2005 18:31 |
I know what you mean. Everything sounds 'programmed'. As for Elton - very disappointing. All I have to say is, without sounding big headed, if I can play it, certainly Elton John could have played it. This is not a criticism (other than EJ), but rather a calling out of the complete lack of feeling put into Freddie's piano parts. Perhaps there will be more passion during the tour? |
| Ander Vørschört 01.03.2005 11:52 |
No one plays like freddie, if that's what you mean. It's quite distinct, his style, but you get a nice look in the BoRhap video! |
| GiantSpider 01.03.2005 13:07 |
Well Elton John is a tit. He played chords then as soon as he got up Spike took over and played it properly. STL: Mike Moran wanted to pay his respects as a friend & I guess that's just what he learned to dplay. |
| luko 01.03.2005 13:16 |
good points.i reckon there will be lots of passion in the new tour coz spike will be playing! we can always count on him to serve up the goods. |
| luko 01.03.2005 14:54 |
agree with the elton john comments too |
| brian_may_wannabe 01.03.2005 15:57 |
luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?He didn't to the 'cross-over with the hands'. I don't he think he sang it well either. So I totally agree with you. |
| brian_may_wannabe 01.03.2005 15:58 |
Plus Brian is a great piano player. First instrument he played. |
| Ander Vørschört 01.03.2005 15:59 |
didn't know he played piano, i thought that was roger. does spike do the crossover hands thingy. |
| brian_may_wannabe 01.03.2005 16:03 |
I didn't know Roger played the piano. I know he played the guitar with The Cross, as well as singing for them. John can play the electric piano (as demonstrated in You're My Best Friend). I don't know if Spike can do the cross over thing. I think that was him doing it in the We Will Rock You musical. If he can do it, I doubt he can do it as good as Freddie can. |
| kohuept 01.03.2005 16:22 |
I think Spike just does an octive with the right hand. He also uses both hands (and 10 fingers too, I think) for the bass run up at the end. While it IS interresting to see, I just hope it sounds good. Hopefully a lot of the piano will be played on a piano and not keyboards. |
| Ander Vørschört 01.03.2005 16:49 |
No one is as good as freddie! John played keyboard! More to the point, spike joined them on concerts, what about recording sessions? |
| GiantSpider 01.03.2005 17:10 |
Spike did play keyboard on some of the Magic album. The Made In Heaven album credits them all with keyboards. |
| ernie 01.03.2005 17:34 |
brian_may_wannabe wrote: I didn't know Roger played the piano. I know he played the guitar with The Cross, as well as singing for them. John can play the electric piano (as demonstrated in You're My Best Friend). I don't know if Spike can do the cross over thing. I think that was him doing it in the We Will Rock You musical. If he can do it, I doubt he can do it as good as Freddie can.don't know how good roger is at the piano but he did write Radio Ga Ga on it |
| john bodega 02.03.2005 04:21 |
I have never heard Elton John do even the most remotely good sounding. He is terrible. At the tribute concert he sounded like an idiot. At that ballet show, he was so caught up in himself... honestly. He's crap. |
| Ander Vørschört 02.03.2005 08:11 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I have never heard Elton John do even the most remotely good sounding. He is terrible. At the tribute concert he sounded like an idiot. At that ballet show, he was so caught up in himself... honestly. He's crap.The only thing Elton John is good for are his own songs. And even then you aren't saying much! |
| deleted user 02.03.2005 11:23 |
<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote:Hmmm the only one I can think of is Freddie's version of The Great Pretender..!luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?there's hardly ever been a cover version done of ANY song anywhere that is better than the original |
| luko 03.03.2005 11:35 |
spike did do the cross over hands thing in bo rhap. you can see it on the tribute. |
| GiantSpider 03.03.2005 11:38 |
Course he did. He is SPIKE EDNEY. |
| Mr Mercury 03.03.2005 11:44 |
brian_may_wannabe wrote:It probably didnt help that it wasnt in his key either - it was way too hard for him.luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?He didn't to the 'cross-over with the hands'. I don't he think he sang it well either. So I totally agree with you. |
| luko 03.03.2005 11:51 |
suppose. thats probably why they changed the key for him on the show must go on in 1997 |
| brian_may_wannabe 04.03.2005 10:48 |
Mr Mercury wrote:Agree.brian_may_wannabe wrote:It probably didnt help that it wasnt in his key either - it was way too hard for him.luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?He didn't to the 'cross-over with the hands'. I don't he think he sang it well either. So I totally agree with you. If he didn't sing it, who would have? |
| ernie 04.03.2005 12:13 |
brian_may_wannabe wrote:who else? george michael :PMr Mercury wrote:Agree. If he didn't sing it, who would have?brian_may_wannabe wrote:It probably didnt help that it wasnt in his key either - it was way too hard for him.luko wrote: also, who thinks elton johns bohemian rhapsody playing was a bit disappointing?He didn't to the 'cross-over with the hands'. I don't he think he sang it well either. So I totally agree with you. |
| luko 04.03.2005 12:41 |
george michael would have done an amazing version. id love to hear him singing the rock section |
| shanemcd 27.08.2005 18:35 |
For a start I think Spike edney is a very good keyboard player - but on 'some' songs either live or at the FM Tribute, more attention to the detail of the song might have been considered. As regards 'Somebody to Love' I don't think the album version is difficult to play and they had backing singers which could have done a great intro - perhaps with all the songs he had to learn he couldn't master the album verison, but they are fairly easy. As an example, I have recorded my 2 versions of the intros (first one from album, 2nd from the FM tribute) - you can download them at link Sorry for the hissing on the MP3 recording, but I recorded it in 2 mins while replying to this post. As regards BoRhap, the cross over is quite easy, the only difficulty with BoRhap is after the opera section getting the Bb(7) bass note run, and also the complex chords nearing the end of the song (including a quite lovely Abdim/Eb chord). I've been playing Queen piano for about 13 years now, and I'm still learning new tricks and improving on the current material I know. |
| queenlegends 27.08.2005 21:36 |
Elton John sung BoRap an octave lower than normal, this is because his range has been knocked after his 1986 throat operation, you can hear the difference on his live in austrailia album...Since then he hasnt been able to hit those high notes as he used to...Elton has a particular style of singing and cant be matched with freddies but this shouldnt be an excuse to knock Elton after all he is EXTREMELY talented. |
| fredmie 28.08.2005 17:12 |
They are really good examples ... I like the Freddie Mercury tribute version, its very fresh.
shanemcd wrote: For a start I think Spike edney is a very good keyboard player - but on 'some' songs either live or at the FM Tribute, more attention to the detail of the song might have been considered. As regards 'Somebody to Love' I don't think the album version is difficult to play and they had backing singers which could have done a great intro - perhaps with all the songs he had to learn he couldn't master the album verison, but they are fairly easy. As an example, I have recorded my 2 versions of the intros (first one from album, 2nd from the FM tribute) - you can download them at link Sorry for the hissing on the MP3 recording, but I recorded it in 2 mins while replying to this post. As regards BoRhap, the cross over is quite easy, the only difficulty with BoRhap is after the opera section getting the Bb(7) bass note run, and also the complex chords nearing the end of the song (including a quite lovely Abdim/Eb chord). I've been playing Queen piano for about 13 years now, and I'm still learning new tricks and improving on the current material I know. |
| shanemcd 29.08.2005 09:13 |
Thanks fredmie - glad you enjoyed them Shane |