| jasen101 27.02.2005 04:02 |
F U Bush You stupid Pig Get blown up, U texan hick! A redneck american running the world? Get me a lighter when the starspangled is unfurled! "Bush's done a good job" is that what you think? Dumb people can't smell how republicans stink. YEah, Mr. Bush Your winning "the war"! Daily car bombings everyday killing more. So if you voted for Bush Go F yourself You were wrong! Very wrong! The End. |
| Banquo 27.02.2005 04:38 |
I prefer Billy Bragg. |
| Dances With Freddie 27.02.2005 06:54 |
beautiful, fantastic, publish it! |
| brENsKi 27.02.2005 07:06 |
how does this poem compare with your other efforts? when can we see your prose regarding... "Osama Bin Laden - Man Of Intrigue and Virtue" "Saddam Hussein - Misunderstood Genius" "Hezbollah and Al Quaeda - A Club For The Liberals" and what about one entitled:- "Suicide Bombers - A Noble Cause" yes of course Bush is an idiot, but his administration are at least making an effort against terrorism. I honestly don't think you'd display such a blasé attitude to this if it were 1000 Canadians slaughtered by two hijacked planes |
| geeksandgeeks 27.02.2005 09:52 |
Michael Stipe wrote the same poem, only much better. It's called "The Final Straw," and it's on REM's latest, which I recommend to everyone. |
| Lady Cool Cat 27.02.2005 10:56 |
Hehe! That's a nice little poem! |
| Mr.Jingles 27.02.2005 12:28 |
Is this supossed to be the left wing version of Toby Keith's "Courtesy of the red, white, and blue". |
| 1quen_fan 27.02.2005 14:02 |
lol. That was a awsome poem! |
| jasen101 27.02.2005 18:45 |
Dennis...i hate all kinds of things...i don't hate all americans...how can you really hate a group of people because of a few million bad eggs? I despise a person like George W. Bush because he has been put in the most powerful position in the world and he has chosen to abuse his power by praying on the fears of generally ignorant people...ie: the south...most of them couldn't even point to Iraq on a map. I loved President Clinton. the stain under his desk had more substance than george w's entire presidency. |
| Lisser 27.02.2005 19:52 |
Jasen...you are way too smart to be wasting your time on this. He is president of the States and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The majority of American people voted for him. Just do as many positive things as you can do from here on out to make the world a better place. Don't waste your time and talents on this negative stuff. I'd much rather you post some more stuff about your band and your music. Some more pictures of you would be excellent too!!!! ;) |
| inu-liger 27.02.2005 20:04 |
Lisser wrote: Jasen...you are way too smart to be wasting your time on this. He is president of the States and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The majority of American people voted for him. Just do as many positive things as you can do from here on out to make the world a better place. Don't waste your time and talents on this negative stuff. I'd much rather you post some more stuff about your band and your music. Some more pictures of you would be excellent too!!!! ;)Actually, only HALF of the American people voted for him. (And those people shall be damned to eternity in hell) |
| jasen101 27.02.2005 20:13 |
Lisser, my beauty, it only took me a minute to write that poem...But i will focus my efforts on good. |
| Lisser 27.02.2005 20:55 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:There you go again Inu. Some things just never change.Lisser wrote: Jasen...you are way too smart to be wasting your time on this. He is president of the States and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The majority of American people voted for him. Just do as many positive things as you can do from here on out to make the world a better place. Don't waste your time and talents on this negative stuff. I'd much rather you post some more stuff about your band and your music. Some more pictures of you would be excellent too!!!! ;)Actually, only HALF of the American people voted for him. (And those people shall be damned to eternity in hell) |
| Lisser 27.02.2005 20:55 |
jasen101 wrote: Lisser, my beauty, it only took me a minute to write that poem...But i will focus my efforts on good.Thank you honey buns!!! More pics of YOU NOWWWWW!! That's an order!! ;) |
| Haystacks Calhoun 27.02.2005 21:44 |
Yet another display of your limitless brilliance, Jasen....... Your Mommy nust be SOOOOOOOOOOO proud of how her "boy" has turned out..... Isn't there traffic for you to go and play in? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 27.02.2005 22:10 |
"I loved President Clinton. the stain under his desk had more substance than george w's entire presidency." If your boy Bill had done ANYTHING productive regarding terrorism and the Middle East during his 8 years in office, we may not quite be in the predicament that we are in today. It is really a crying shame that you are so hatefull towards other people, Jasen, simply because they have a different political view than you. Not very tolerant, is it? It is also a shame that you are so hateful towards millions and millions of people that you know nothing about. Take your interests on you profile, for example. You and I apparently like many of the same things, and would probably get along great. A shame that you have already prejudged me based on how I feel politically...... |
| jasen101 27.02.2005 23:49 |
yeah....whatever wanker. |
| deleted user 28.02.2005 01:10 |
I just noticed that those who do not live in America hate Bush so much. I just wonder. If your hands itch to write something that is unwarranted, I guess that resulted from being unable to do something about it right? It's an entertaining hobby, your poems, but I tend to see it in a different light. Be glad that you never lived in a third world country. I did, and I am eternally grateful that I immigrated here in the U.S. I can say that I am living the 'American dream', and I oughta thank Bush for making my adopted country safe and secure. I can never see a better alternative to what I currently have right now. How ungrateful can I get if I started this fanciful but pointless crusade against the president you love to hate. |
| jasen101 28.02.2005 02:05 |
u should go back to your third world country...and take bush with ya. |
| Mr.Jingles 28.02.2005 08:31 |
Buddy Biancalana wrote: If your boy Bill had done ANYTHING productive regarding terrorism and the Middle East during his 8 years in office, we may not quite be in the predicament that we are in today.Typical republican/conservative response, blame it all on Clinton. Are you forgetting that if Bush didn't ignore those memos he received on August 6th 2001 regarding possible terrorist attacks involving hijacked planes, 3.000 Americans would still be alive today. No wonder why he spent so much time thinking of what to do when he was informed that the WTC was attacked, while sitting there reading 'My Pet Goat' pretending like nothing has happened, and whatever happened he couldn't have prevented. |
| Sonia Doris 28.02.2005 08:36 |
hm... interesting... although i think bush would deserve more than very friendly poems... |
| Haystacks Calhoun 28.02.2005 09:14 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote:And there you have the canned left wing response. That statement is a load of bull, and you know it. I guess that your feeling is that if you and your ilk state it enough, that somehow it will be true? Lord knows that this is about the 20th time that you, yourself, has posted that garbage.Buddy Biancalana wrote: If your boy Bill had done ANYTHING productive regarding terrorism and the Middle East during his 8 years in office, we may not quite be in the predicament that we are in today.Typical republican/conservative response, blame it all on Clinton. Are you forgetting that if Bush didn't ignore those memos he received on August 6th 2001 regarding possible terrorist attacks involving hijacked planes, 3.000 Americans would still be alive today. No wonder why he spent so much time thinking of what to do when he was informed that the WTC was attacked, while sitting there reading 'My Pet Goat' pretending like nothing has happened, and whatever happened he couldn't have prevented. As far as Jasen is concerned, I would really like to know that as a self-proclaimed left wing liberal, how he can pre-judge so many people that he does not know. I mean, come on, isn't tolerance and understanding a hallmark of liberalism? Do you see and right-wingers here bashing folks on the left, saying things like "So if you voted for Clinton Go Fuck yourself"? If this is the best that he has to offer, perhaps he should keep it to himself. The world has enough blind hatred, Jasen, as a tolerant liberal, certainly has no right to add to it..... |
| Lisser 28.02.2005 09:15 |
jasen101 wrote: u should go back to your third world country...and take bush with ya.Jasennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....behave!!! No president or leader of any country will ever be perfect or make all the right choices for every being on this earth. Everyone, Liberal or Conservative will always blame the other party for what goes wrong in the world. It is ok for all of us to have differing opinions, but we shouldn't call each other names just bc we have different political views. How grade school is that? From now on whoever calls another poster on this board bad names has to buy me a plane ticket to your perspective location and you will get 25 spankings from me. bwuahahahhahaha!!! Now that is american, corporal punishment and violence!!!! ;) |
| Mr.Jingles 28.02.2005 09:30 |
Buddy Biancalana wrote:Load of Bull??Mr.Jingles79 wrote:And there you have the canned left wing response. That statement is a load of bull, and you know it. I guess that your feeling is that if you and your ilk state it enough, that somehow it will be true? Lord knows that this is about the 20th time that you, yourself, has posted that garbage.Buddy Biancalana wrote: If your boy Bill had done ANYTHING productive regarding terrorism and the Middle East during his 8 years in office, we may not quite be in the predicament that we are in today.Typical republican/conservative response, blame it all on Clinton. Are you forgetting that if Bush didn't ignore those memos he received on August 6th 2001 regarding possible terrorist attacks involving hijacked planes, 3.000 Americans would still be alive today. No wonder why he spent so much time thinking of what to do when he was informed that the WTC was attacked, while sitting there reading 'My Pet Goat' pretending like nothing has happened, and whatever happened he couldn't have prevented. I'll take is if you haven't heard of the 9/11 Comission report? For your information, the 9/11 Comission was not a written by a bunch of liberal outsiders pissed off at Bush and writing their own "truths", but it was an official bipartisan government report on the classifed information received by government secret agencies that could have prevented 9/11. The book displays faults and mistakes that were encountered during both the Bush and Clinton administrations. However, I wouldn't blame completely Bush, Clinton or any other president for 9/11. No president that has ever lived can keep their eyes always inside every single government agency, simply because a president has to keep their eyes on way too many things to focus on a single one. The final truth is that all government officials dating from as far as the Reagan administration are the ones to blame for the deaths of 3.000 Americans. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 28.02.2005 09:45 |
"However, I wouldn't blame completely Bush, Clinton or any other president for 9/11. No president that has ever lived can keep their eyes always inside every single government agency, simply because a president has to keep their eyes on way too many things to focus on a single one. The final truth is that all government officials dating from as far as the Reagan administration are the ones to blame for the deaths of 3.000 Americans." That is all that I was getting at. You blamed Bush singlehandedly in your previous post, and to blame him is simply incorrect. See? We do see eye to eye on things afterall! |
| The Mir@cle 28.02.2005 09:51 |
But would they have attacked America with Clinton as president??? This question is impossible to answer, but I doubt it. By the way, Bush himself gave a nice speech at the Dutch TV program Kopstijkers last Saturday, making his apologies to Europe. I'll post a link tomorrow (it isn't available yet, but you have to see it) |
| Haystacks Calhoun 28.02.2005 10:39 |
They DID attack America with Clinton as president, at the WTC in 1993, as well as numerous Embassy bombings........ |
| Mr.Jingles 28.02.2005 10:40 |
Buddy Biancalana wrote: "However, I wouldn't blame completely Bush, Clinton or any other president for 9/11. No president that has ever lived can keep their eyes always inside every single government agency, simply because a president has to keep their eyes on way too many things to focus on a single one. The final truth is that all government officials dating from as far as the Reagan administration are the ones to blame for the deaths of 3.000 Americans." That is all that I was getting at. You blamed Bush singlehandedly in your previous post, and to blame him is simply incorrect. See? We do see eye to eye on things afterall!I didn't blame him completely for 9/11, but he did indeed have the chance to prevent it if he didn't ignore those memos that he received warning him of what was going to happen. However, if there's an American president that I truly believe is for the most part responsible for 9/11, that would definitely be Ronald Reagan. After all, he was the one who gave financial aid and weapons to Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban during and even after the invasion of the Russians to Afghanistan. It pisses me off that there was so much fuss and tributes when he died. Seems like people have forgotten about the Iran/Contras affair, as well as his 'Star Wars' program to increase the military budget for a "possible" war against the U.S.S.R., which ended up cutting fundings for health, education, and social programs. So much money spent in a war that never happened, because communism eventually collapsed by itself and the cold war was finally over. So many people claim that Reagan defeated communism, when in fact he didn't do shit to defeat communism. Gorbachev did it all by himself. |
| deleted user 28.02.2005 12:49 |
Trying to stab me with your dull knife, jasen? Go back to school, little twit and learn some more verbal karate and see if you can actually inflict some real insults next time around. |
| deleted user 28.02.2005 13:55 |
Whatever happened to you voicing your opinions about Bush, Inu? Now you're deeming people who voted for Bush as "damned to hell"? I didn't know you had that power of authority to do such a thing. |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 28.02.2005 14:01 |
jasen101 wrote: F U Bush You stupid Pig Get blown up, U texan hick! A redneck american running the world? Get me a lighter when the starspangled is unfurled! "Bush's done a good job" is that what you think? Dumb people can't smell how republicans stink. YEah, Mr. Bush Your winning "the war"! Daily car bombings everyday killing more. So if you voted for Bush Go F yourself You were wrong! Very wrong! The End.Please get a life. The word "you" needs to be written out for me to take anything you say seriously. |
| Mr.Jingles 28.02.2005 14:36 |
I just simply don't understand why Canadians have to come here and insult Bush. I'm saying this because... - They don't have to travel to another country to get flu vaccines. - They don't have to pay for an increasing deficit of over $400 billion - Their government respects the Kyoto protocol and have good environmental policies to reduce pollution. - Their armed forces are not being sent to fight in a war based on false information given by their government - They don't have to fear a possible military draft. - They have free health care - Their country is not attacking any foreign nations, therefore not giving terrorists and extremist leaders motives to attack them in their own ground. |
| jasen101 28.02.2005 23:54 |
hey, i have a right to respect other people's choices...but Bush is a very bad man...believe me...i've done my research. |
| The Mir@cle 01.03.2005 05:18 |
The Mir@cle wrote: But would they have attacked America with Clinton as president??? This question is impossible to answer, but I doubt it. By the way, Bush himself gave a nice speech at the Dutch TV program Kopstijkers last Saturday, making his apologies to Europe. I'll post a link tomorrow (it isn't available yet, but you have to see it)You can see the speech here: link ;-) |
| The Mir@cle 01.03.2005 07:32 |
I agree Dennis, it wasn't their best imitation. You're right about Schumacher and Paul Groot, Kopspijkers isn't the same anymore and Koefnoen is a weak program... But I thought this songtext was funny. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 11:54 |
Nation & World By Michael Barone Minds are changing Nearly two years ago I wrote that the liberation of Iraq was changing minds in the Middle East. Before March 2003, the authoritarian regimes and media elites of the Middle East focused the discontents of their people on the United States and Israel. I thought the downfall of Saddam Hussein's regime was directing their minds to a different question: how to build a decent government and a decent society. I think I overestimated how much progress was being made at the time. But the spectacle of 8 million Iraqis braving terrorists to vote on January 30 seems to have moved things up to breakneck speed. Evidence abounds. Consider what is happening in Lebanon, long under Syrian control, in response to the assassination, almost certainly by Syrian agents, of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri. Protesters have taken to the streets day after day, demanding Syrian withdrawal. The Washington Post 's David Ignatius, who covered Lebanon in the 1980s and has kept in touch since, has been skeptical that the Bush administration's policy would change things for the better. But reporting from Beirut last week, he wrote movingly of "the movement for political change that has suddenly coalesced in Lebanon and is slowly gathering force elsewhere in the Arab world." Ignatius interviewed Walid Jumblatt, the Druze leader long a critic of the United States. Jumblatt's words are striking: "It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it." As Middle East expert Daniel Pipes writes, "For the first time in three decades, Lebanon now seems within reach of regaining its independence." Minds are changing in Europe, too. In the left-wing Guardian, Martin Kettle reassures his readers that the Iraq war was "a reckless, provocative, dangerous, lawless piece of unilateral arrogance" --the usual stuff. "But," he concedes, "it has nevertheless brought forth a desirable outcome which would not have been achieved at all, or so quickly, by the means that the critics advocated, right though they were in most respects." Or read Claus Christian Malzahn in Der Spiegel . "Maybe the people of Syria, Iraq, or Jordan will get the idea in their heads to free themselves from their oppressive regimes just as the East Germans did," he writes. "Just a thought for Old Europe to chew on: Bush might be right, just like Reagan was." "Tipping point." And minds are changing in the United States. On Nightline, the New York Times 's Thomas Friedman and, with caveats, the New Yorker 's Malcolm Gladwell agreed that the Iraqi election was a "tipping point" (the title of one of Gladwell's books) and declined Ted Koppel's invitation to say that things could easily tip back the other way. In the most recent Foreign Affairs , Yale's John Lewis Gaddis credited George W. Bush with "the most sweeping redesign of U.S. grand strategy since the presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt," criticized Bush's implementation of that strategy in measured tones, and called for a "renewed strategic bipartisanship." One Democrat so inclined is the party's most likely 2008 nominee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. She voted for the Iraq war and has not wavered in her support--she avoided voting for the $87 billion before voting against it. She has kept clear of the Michael Moore left and its shrill denunciations of Bush and has kept her criticisms well within the bounds of normal partisan discourse. "Where we stand right now, there can be no doubt that it is not in America's interests for the Iraqi government, t |
| jasen101 01.03.2005 14:56 |
Have you ever been to Iraq?? I bet that guy that wrote that wonderful piece of pro bush propaganda hasn't. Hmmm...it's funny how people can write so much on a country they probably never will even care to visit. You see, I have been to Iraq...it's not that simple buddy b! People who buy into this Iraq war thing are looking at it in a very two dimensional way. |
| Lisser 01.03.2005 15:19 |
You've been to Iraq?? What made you go there? What was it like? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 16:04 |
Yes, Please fill us in on your time in Iraq. |
| geeksandgeeks 01.03.2005 16:19 |
jasen101 wrote: hey, i have a right to respect other people's choices...but Bush is a very bad man...believe me...i've done my research.Yes, I agree with you on that one. But (at the risk of sounding like an elitist) your poem was not the greatest thing I've ever read. And like I said, it's been written before. |
| jasen101 01.03.2005 17:31 |
lol...i wrote that cause i was bored...it was definately not meant to be a great poem or in some way original. just a throw away bit of non sense. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 17:54 |
I still want to know about your time in Iraq. |
| inu-liger 01.03.2005 18:28 |
He's never been to Iraq. He's full of it |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 18:33 |
About what I figured. |
| MetzgerR 01.03.2005 18:44 |
Jason, could you share a little about your time in Iraq? My uncle's there right now, near Fallujah, serving in the U.S. military, and I would be incredibly grateful if you could tell me a little bit about country he's living in right now. Thank you so much! Judy |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 19:05 |
Some Arabs See Beginning of New Era By DONNA ABU-NASR Associated Press Writer March 1, 2005, 3:16 PM EST KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia -- It was a scene the Arab world's autocratic regimes have dreaded -- and through the power of satellite TV, it could catch on as fast as the latest hit music video: Peaceful, enormous crowds carrying flags and flowers bringing down a government. What happened in Lebanon this week, analysts say, is the beginning of a new era in the Middle East, one in which popular demand pushes the momentum for democracy and people's will can no longer be disregarded. Television stations broadcast Beirut's protests live into homes, coffee shops and clubs across the Middle East, with the dramatic images of Lebanese youths wearing red-and-white scarves and waving the country's red, white and green flag as they handed out roses Monday to troops who had been ordered to block them. The coverage, lasting all day with hardly a break on some stations, culminated with the Syrian-backed government's resignation. Inevitably, it raised the question among many spectators: What about here? "I wish this could happen in Yemen," Ahmed Murtada, an unemployed Yemeni, said in San'a. "But here, tanks would prevail." Anas Khashoggi, a 46-year-old management consultant in the Saudi city of Jiddah, said he followed Monday's events from beginning to end. "I wanted ... to see how the government reacts to the will of the people," he said. Was he disappointed? "Not at all," he said. The scenes from Lebanon come as Saudis are having their first -- albeit small -- taste of democracy. In the second round of the country's first nationwide elections ever, Saudi men go to the polls Thursday in the kingdom's east and south to choose municipal councils. The monarchy has been promising reform, but going slowly. Newspapers in Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- authoritarian nations where the state heavily influences the press -- did not shy away from showing the protests. "The Lebanese street joins the opposition," read the banner headline across the front page of the Saudi daily Okaz, along with photos of the Lebanese protest tents and a banner in Arabic reading, "We want the truth." In Syria, however, the state-controlled media was largely silent. It reported on the resignation of Prime Minister Omar Karami but did not mention -- much less show pictures -- of the protests. State TV aired none of the dramatic footage the few Syrians with satellite dishes could see with a flick of the channel. Syria has kept a firm hand on its small reform movement. But it had a rare instance of civil violence last year, when riots in March between Kurds and police spread to parts of northeastern Syria and killed at least 25 people in unrest sparked by a soccer brawl but fueled by Kurdish resentment. "What happened in Lebanon conforms with our hopes for every Arab country," said Michel Kilo, a Syrian intellectual. "It was a rehearsal for a peaceful popular movement that unfolded right before our eyes." The protests in Lebanon -- triggered by the assassination of the popular former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri on Feb. 14 -- come on the heels of a string of democratic steps in the Arab world, including elections in Iraq and by the Palestinians, and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's promise to allow multi-candidate presidential elections. But the forcing out of Lebanon's government sets a very different precedent in a region where freedom of speech is muzzled, human rights activists are jailed and sons either succeed or are being groomed to succeed their fathers. "For the first time in the history of the Arab world, a country's policy has come face-to-face with the will of the people who went down to the street and said: 'We don't want you,'" said Dalal al-Bizri, a Cairo-based Lebanese sociologist. "T |
| Mr.Jingles 01.03.2005 19:09 |
How about posting some Ann Coulter articles? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 19:11 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: How about posting some Ann Coulter articles?????? Things are just starting to get interesting in the Middle East.....stay tuned, and keep an open mind instead of a hateful one, folks. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 19:12 |
If you would bother to read the articles, you might learn something. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.03.2005 19:20 |
I mean, here we have yet another country in the Middle East that has stood up and said "Dammit, we want Freedom! This government has to go!" And, guess what? They DID! After the assisination, the people, emboldened by watching millions of Iraqis go to the polls, stood up for themselves. That is the whole point of this "illegal" war, as so many on the left wish to call it. Just watch. In 15 years, you will not recognize this area... Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but the power of the people is where it is at, baby, and the tide is turning...you can kick and scream about it all you want, but you cannot stop it. |
| jasen101 01.03.2005 23:58 |
I travelled through Iraq with my Dad when I was a kid of 9 years old. Enough said. This is not the point! A lot has changed since then. The point here is I don't support Bush...and if you were stupid enough to vote for him you deserve what you're going to get: a poorer economy, a right wing agenda, and endless military spending. I am proud to be a Canadian. We have a liberal government, we don't like Bush, we stand up for all minorities, we kick ass at hockey, and we make good beer. What more could you want? So go fuck yourself asshole. |
| jasen101 02.03.2005 00:06 |
ps...MetzgerR...I hope your uncle is safe and gets home okay! I don't wish any harm on any of the people of the US military who are risking their lives for their country. I just disagree why they are there. He must be very homesick...from what I can remember of the middle east...it is a very different way of life...people in the street look at you differently...YOU are the minority. You just know that you're a long way from Kansas! |
| Saint Jiub 02.03.2005 00:40 |
jasen101 wrote: ... and we make good beer. What more could you want? Sobriety??? Will the beer nerd wake up for his morning classes?? |
| The Mir@cle 02.03.2005 03:04 |
Buddy Biancalana, do you really think that posting some one sided articles written by republicans can change our minds??? |