inu-liger 13.02.2005 15:24 |
Has anyone else noticed that all the official live Queen DVD's released by QP are only shows from England?! It seems to me that Jim Beach wants an excuse not to release Queen concerts from other shows on DVD, hence a possible reason why we won't ever get Houston '77 on DVD. I could be wrong, but I think QP are biased. |
Serry... 13.02.2005 15:31 |
I think they release shows which have been filmed and being in good quality and no matter where they've been played... But maybe there's something right in your words... |
Dubroc 13.02.2005 16:20 |
Budapest was in a good quality. There goes that argument. |
Tero 13.02.2005 16:32 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote: Has anyone else noticed that all the official live Queen DVD's released by QP are only shows from England?! It seems to me that Jim Beach wants an excuse not to release Queen concerts from other shows on DVD, hence a possible reason why we won't ever get Houston '77 on DVD. I could be wrong, but I think QP are biased.That's hardly a surprise, considering that QP didn't actually bother to film a concert outside UK themselves... I mean, surely they would have to pay a small share of the profits to all those foreign TV companies who did the recording in the first place. There just wouldn't be as much profit in it for the band. :P |
The Fairy King 13.02.2005 16:46 |
Good point, but what about the professionally filmed Budapest concert? That's QP too right? and Rio? |
Serry... 14.02.2005 09:14 |
Dubroc wrote: Budapest was in a good quality. There goes that argument.So it was released actually. If they'd release Earls Court - it's gonna be another one English gig :) |
inu-liger 14.02.2005 09:16 |
Serry Funster wrote:They might. You never know.Dubroc wrote: Budapest was in a good quality. There goes that argument.So it was released actually. If they'd release Earls Court - it's gonna be another one English gig :) |
Zander05 14.02.2005 16:32 |
I think they're just going in order of popular demand. I think they need to get their arses in gear for a decent '79 concert. Houston '77 too! |
deleted user 14.02.2005 18:41 |
Awesome insight. Is it because the copyrights from UK shows can be accessed locally and the foreign shows involve a tangle of red tape thus delaying or hindering possible releases? |
Maz 14.02.2005 20:03 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote: Has anyone else noticed that all the official live Queen DVD's released by QP are only shows from England?! ... I could be wrong, but I think QP are biased.You determined all of this, including rooting out prejudices from QP, based on only 2 releases? |
inu-liger 14.02.2005 20:29 |
Zeni wrote:Wrong. 3 releases:Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote: Has anyone else noticed that all the official live Queen DVD's released by QP are only shows from England?! ... I could be wrong, but I think QP are biased.You determined all of this, including rooting out prejudices from QP, based on only 2 releases? Freddie Mercury Tribute - Wembley Stadium 1992, London, UK Live At Wembley Stadium - WS 1986, London, UK On Fire: Live At The Bowl - Milton Keynes, ???, UK |
Lester Burnham 14.02.2005 20:30 |
And they also went out of their way to film two special shows in Canada? |
inu-liger 14.02.2005 20:34 |
<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote: Awesome insight. Is it because the copyrights from UK shows can be accessed locally and the foreign shows involve a tangle of red tape thus delaying or hindering possible releases?Possibly. For example, MaFilms in Hungary owns the 35mm film reel footage for complete Budapest 1986 concert. Edited version was only ever released on VHS and LaserDisc, worldwide. No official DVD releases. Only other releases from Budapest: 1) "Tavaszi Szel Vizet Araszt" - bonus track on American re-master of Wembley Stadium '86 concert 2CD re-release 2) Whatever's on Live Magic (in edited form) - I think it's "Under Pressure", which sounds different to the video version on VHS, as far as my memory goes Another example is Rock In Rio, which like WWRY was a mixture of the two nights Queen played the festival (if you don't believe me, watch the "now i'm here" performance, and note the confusing changes between Brian's original Red Special and Guild prototype he used at the time - QueenConcerts also backs up my claim, regarding the two dates mixed into one video, also very edited). Who knows if the complete footage from both nights exist? (Although bootleg tapes exist with the complete performance, the one with Rock In Rio Blues) Other releases from RIR 1) Rock In Rio Blues - B-side to "A Winter's Tale" UK, and also a b-side to a single in the US (in edited form), which I can't remember 2) Love Of My Life - on the USA "Five Live" cassette tape issue only Another example is the We Will Rock You DVD, which is a legal Queen release, but not one owned by QP, and therefore only available on DVD in Canada and U.S.A. Other releases: None (except for bootlegs of course) |
Maz 14.02.2005 20:36 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:Excuse me.Zeni wrote:Wrong. 3 releases: Freddie Mercury Tribute - Wembley Stadium 1992, London, UK Live At Wembley Stadium - WS 1986, London, UK On Fire: Live At The Bowl - Milton Keynes, ???, UKInu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote: Has anyone else noticed that all the official live Queen DVD's released by QP are only shows from England?! ... I could be wrong, but I think QP are biased.You determined all of this, including rooting out prejudices from QP, based on only 2 releases? You determined all of this, including rooting out prejudices from QP, based on only 3 releases, one of which was an all-star tribute for charity? |
inu-liger 14.02.2005 20:46 |
Do you see any new live DVD releases coming up that AREN'T from the UK? Someone should e-mail Brian about this...and I sure ain't doing that |
inu-liger 14.02.2005 20:47 |
OK, I'm slightly wrong. There was the 46664 DVD, from South Africa, but QP had nothing to do with it other than license the songs used on the DVD/CD release. I still stand corrected though. |
LivingGirl 15.02.2005 03:05 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote: Do you see any new live DVD releases coming up that AREN'T from the UK? Someone should e-mail Brian about this...and I sure ain't doing thatYou can't e-mail Brian?Why? |
My Melancholy Blues 15.02.2005 06:27 |
And I've noticed they've released live DVDs from '80s not form '70s. Though their skills of '80s were better than '70s especially in live stages, but I wonder what made them do like that really ? It seems they have no intention to release from '70s. I'm afraid that they are going to put them in the vaults. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed? |
Hank H. 15.02.2005 06:39 |
Dark, emailing Brian about this conspiracy is not enough. Publish it! |
My Melancholy Blues 15.02.2005 06:45 |
I wonder how many people have emailed to Brian about this so far... |
inu-liger 15.02.2005 08:03 |
Probably one or none |
My Melancholy Blues 15.02.2005 12:20 |
I think I was too pessimistic and rather sarcastic, well conspiracy is good point...so something is needed more and more...more enthusiasm? or writing skill? to make Brian and others move. Besides I think we sometimes need to discuss such topics. |
Lord Blackadder 15.02.2005 14:29 |
Maybe they want to release English concerts. So? Why do you care. I wouldn't care if they released all American concerts or all German concerts. Plus give it some time. There has only been 4 live DVDs. One was Freddie's Tribute and one of those was Canadian. Any concerts on vid are bound to end up on DVD some time surely. |
inu-liger 15.02.2005 14:55 |
Lord Blackadder wrote: Maybe they want to release English concerts. So? Why do you care. I wouldn't care if they released all American concerts or all German concerts. Plus give it some time. There has only been 4 live DVDs. One was Freddie's Tribute and one of those was Canadian. Any concerts on vid are bound to end up on DVD some time surely.Like I said, the Canadian one is NOT owned by QP, and Brian has disowned it publicly. So Queen really had nothing to do with the DVD release. |
Tero 15.02.2005 16:06 |
And then there's of course that Japanese release from the Works tour... |
teddybear 15.02.2005 16:09 |
I have just finished converting onto mpeg VCD (from VHS) about 5 hours of footage from the Queen Convention in 2003. This included an interview with the two dudes that "cleaned up" the Wembley DVD and they were asked by the conventioners what other shows would be considered to be worthy of cleaning up for release? One of them they mentioned that is in good quality is PARIS 1979. So I have that on tape !!! I thought that was exciting, coz I love Freddie in that time period too. |
inu-liger 15.02.2005 16:17 |
Tero wrote: And then there's of course that Japanese release from the Works tour......which I believe is only owned by EMI Toshiba, and therefore not available commercially outside of Japan (except of course on the Internet and thru special orders - VERY expensive of course!) And not just the one from the Works '85 tour, but the one from the Japanese Hot Space '82 tour as well, also not available outside of Japan in general |
LivingGirl 15.02.2005 17:20 |
'85 tour in Japan is owned by Watanabe Music,not EMI.It's not a complete one,only 90min. |
Lester Burnham 15.02.2005 17:21 |
What a stupid theory. You have too much time on your hands. |
Tero 15.02.2005 18:00 |
Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:Well you were talking about DVDs, so I didn't mention the other release... :PTero wrote: And then there's of course that Japanese release from the Works tour......which I believe is only owned by EMI Toshiba, and therefore not available commercially outside of Japan (except of course on the Internet and thru special orders - VERY expensive of course!) And not just the one from the Works '85 tour, but the one from the Japanese Hot Space '82 tour as well, also not available outside of Japan in general I actually bought that Final Live DVD for a little over £20 (which is only slightly above the normal Finnish prices), and it says "P&C 1992 Queen Films Ltd, under exclusive license Watanabe Music Publishing". Another good conspiracy theory that I could make from this is that there isn't enough faith in the global interest of these products. Every company seems to target their releases only for the domestic market. :/ |
lyricalassasin77 15.02.2005 18:21 |
I don't understand why all these concerts need to be made available on DVD anyhow. With most bands your lucky if you have 1 and 2 at the most live albums let alone DVD's. I see now why Queen formed there own Production and film company. So one day when they had nothing left to give and had to find washed up singers to tour with them they could put out all these DVD's of there old concerts........Very smart on there behalf, or should I say explotive.........Peace |
Tero 16.02.2005 02:33 |
<font color=gold> Dennis tm wrote:Yes, just like Greatest Flix I & II, Live In Rio, At Wembley, Magic Years, Champions of the World... :/Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:Japan '85 is also a Brazillian release.Tero wrote: And then there's of course that Japanese release from the Works tour......which I believe is only owned by EMI Toshiba, and therefore not available commercially outside of Japan (except of course on the Internet and thru special orders - VERY expensive of course!) And not just the one from the Works '85 tour, but the one from the Japanese Hot Space '82 tour as well, also not available outside of Japan in general |