DragonQueen 09.02.2005 11:56 |
Any indication if the King of Queen (May) will bring his Band to the states at any point???????? |
Haystacks Calhoun 09.02.2005 13:41 |
If they come, I'm gonna boogie oogie oogie till I just can't boogie no more. |
Queen& 09.02.2005 14:55 |
doubt it there not big over there |
We Are The Champions 09.02.2005 16:35 |
Check out Brian's soapbox on link They're looking at a possible Canada/USA tour in September/October 2005. They haven't been forgotten in the US..it's just that they haven't toured there since 1982 after the Hot Space tour. A US tour is long overdue and I think they'll play small/medium sized arenas as on the European tour. |
DragonQueen 09.02.2005 18:24 |
I hope you are right! I have not seen them since the 70's! But they just do not get much bigger over here!!!! Contrary to popular belief!!!! Cheers! |
Queen T 09.02.2005 20:27 |
M. Poulter: Why do you doubt it? It says on his on the Queen tour site off of Brian's page on the timeline under September/October "Planning US/Canada tour," which you can logically deduce they are looking at venues... |
deleted user 10.02.2005 01:06 |
There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway? |
The Mir@cle 10.02.2005 02:40 |
bambam wrote: There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway?Isn't it a fact that they almost sold no records in the US after making the IWTBF video?? I don't think that Freddie being gay was fully accepted there. I guess that's why they didn't come over to the US the last years they toured. |
We Are The Champions 10.02.2005 09:59 |
The Mir@cle wrote:The US just didn't get the IWTBF video and were rather shocked at seeing four men in drag. It was banned by MTV at the time. It's a spoof on Coronation Street.....for any Americans it's a UK TV Soap...and I agree with you when you say that Freddie being gay was not fully accepted over there. They even apparantly threw razor blades at Freddie in 1980 as a protest at his mustache!!. The writing was on the wall for Queen as far as US tours was concerned after the release of Hot Space. It resulted in very poor record sales and empty seats at concerts.<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote: There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway?Isn't it a fact that they almost sold no records in the US after making the IWTBF video?? I don't think that Freddie being gay was fully accepted there. I guess that's why they didn't come over to the US the last years they toured. Queen, and probably any other band under these circumstances, were therefore reluctant to do any further US tours....unsold seats, apathy, poor record sales so decided to concentrate on other markets. It took the Wayne's World movie and Bo Rhap to resurrect Queen as a major artiste in the US. Apparantly, it was being called "Bohemian Rhapcity" by some people and shows, possibly how much Queen had been forgotten in the US? It got to number 2 in the Billboard Charts!!.. so made Queen popular and cool again to the general US public. Also didn't Brian tour as support for Guns'N'Roses in 1993? Brian might have toured as a support on the strength of this as well as being asked by Guns'N'Roses so Brian at least doesn't ignore the US audience. America does not hate Queen and Queen does not hate America!!. You've got WWRY and Hollywood Walk Of Fame for god's sake and the possibility of a tour in September/October 2005!! There's always been a fan base in the US as in any other country so look forward to the tour when it's announced!! |
deleted user 10.02.2005 14:37 |
Ignoring (for lack of a better term) America was just a smart business move on their behalf. The discontinuation of Queen's stint here was a risk they decided not to take, maybe because of huge losses and embarassment in the world of music. They were just saving face, that's all. I still can't understand why the older American followers accepted the fey Freddie and hated the macho Freddie. |
jasen101 11.02.2005 03:29 |
Saving face? The only reason why Queen didn't tour America after 82 is the fact that you have to "work" for a US tour...european audiences have always been easier to please. AIDS was also out there and Freddie said in an interview that he wasn't going to tour America because of that alone! Unfortunately, the whole "gay" labelling and "i want to break free" video coupled with an incredibly homophobic US throughout Ronald Reagan's terms definately took Queen out of the spotlight after 82. |
7Innuendo7 12.02.2005 00:09 |
I really hope QPR tour the US. |
MercuryArts 12.02.2005 11:09 |
Had they chosen to do a N. American tour back in '84 or '85 I think it would have boosted sales for that album. I was a 15 year old sophmore living in the Philadelphia area when Works was released. I waited w/ baited breath to hear the announcment of an upcoming tour. The video for IWTBF didn't help them in the anti-gay/homophoic society of this very prudish country. But the single was released a couple of months prior to the video and it bombed anyway. I was one the people that didn't like the song as well. Never did, from the moment I bought the record the day it was released I thought it was weak. Had the soong been a top 40 hit I'm sure the vidoe would have fared much better. Fortunately I was able to see them in '82 on that final N.A. tour. I think I will cry if they choose not to hit the states later this year. Now having money to go see them I am planning to hit the N.Y.C., Balt., D.C., Philly, Cleveland, and VA. shows. Provided they play all those cities. Hears to hoping & waiting once again w/ baited breath. |
MercuryArts 12.02.2005 11:10 |
I can't believe I spelled HERE'S worng! Damnit! |
deleted user 15.02.2005 00:55 |
It's not about being too gay. It's about Queen transforming into, according to what I've read, becoming too 'pop-oriented'. That's probably what they detested. |
Lisser 15.02.2005 09:35 |
We-Are-The-Champions wrote:i thought the razor blades were thrown in South America?The Mir@cle wrote:The US just didn't get the IWTBF video and were rather shocked at seeing four men in drag. It was banned by MTV at the time. It's a spoof on Coronation Street.....for any Americans it's a UK TV Soap...and I agree with you when you say that Freddie being gay was not fully accepted over there. They even apparantly threw razor blades at Freddie in 1980 as a protest at his mustache!!. The writing was on the wall for Queen as far as US tours was concerned after the release of Hot Space. It resulted in very poor record sales and empty seats at concerts. Queen, and probably any other band under these circumstances, were therefore reluctant to do any further US tours....unsold seats, apathy, poor record sales so decided to concentrate on other markets. It took the Wayne's World movie and Bo Rhap to resurrect Queen as a major artiste in the US. Apparantly, it was being called "Bohemian Rhapcity" by some people and shows, possibly how much Queen had been forgotten in the US? It got to number 2 in the Billboard Charts!!.. so made Queen popular and cool again to the general US public. Also didn't Brian tour as support for Guns'N'Roses in 1993? Brian might have toured as a support on the strength of this as well as being asked by Guns'N'Roses so Brian at least doesn't ignore the US audience. America does not hate Queen and Queen does not hate America!!. You've got WWRY and Hollywood Walk Of Fame for god's sake and the possibility of a tour in September/October 2005!! There's always been a fan base in the US as in any other country so look forward to the tour when it's announced!!<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote: There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway?Isn't it a fact that they almost sold no records in the US after making the IWTBF video?? I don't think that Freddie being gay was fully accepted there. I guess that's why they didn't come over to the US the last years they toured. |
deleted user 15.02.2005 21:31 |
Lisser wrote:Wasn't it the boobs?We-Are-The-Champions wrote:i thought the razor blades were thrown in South America?The Mir@cle wrote:The US just didn't get the IWTBF video and were rather shocked at seeing four men in drag. It was banned by MTV at the time. It's a spoof on Coronation Street.....for any Americans it's a UK TV Soap...and I agree with you when you say that Freddie being gay was not fully accepted over there. They even apparantly threw razor blades at Freddie in 1980 as a protest at his mustache!!. The writing was on the wall for Queen as far as US tours was concerned after the release of Hot Space. It resulted in very poor record sales and empty seats at concerts. Queen, and probably any other band under these circumstances, were therefore reluctant to do any further US tours....unsold seats, apathy, poor record sales so decided to concentrate on other markets. It took the Wayne's World movie and Bo Rhap to resurrect Queen as a major artiste in the US. Apparantly, it was being called "Bohemian Rhapcity" by some people and shows, possibly how much Queen had been forgotten in the US? It got to number 2 in the Billboard Charts!!.. so made Queen popular and cool again to the general US public. Also didn't Brian tour as support for Guns'N'Roses in 1993? Brian might have toured as a support on the strength of this as well as being asked by Guns'N'Roses so Brian at least doesn't ignore the US audience. America does not hate Queen and Queen does not hate America!!. You've got WWRY and Hollywood Walk Of Fame for god's sake and the possibility of a tour in September/October 2005!! There's always been a fan base in the US as in any other country so look forward to the tour when it's announced!!<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote: There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway?Isn't it a fact that they almost sold no records in the US after making the IWTBF video?? I don't think that Freddie being gay was fully accepted there. I guess that's why they didn't come over to the US the last years they toured. |
Victoria 16.02.2005 03:57 |
MercuryArts wrote: I can't believe I spelled HERE'S worng! Damnit!lol, don't worry. There's been worse. At least you saw it :) |
We Are The Champions 16.02.2005 09:53 |
<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote:Pairs of false tits were thrown at Freddie at the Rock In Rio festival when he sang I Want To Break Free. On the razor blades, read that in Canada 1980 as part of NA Tour, disposable razors were thrown as a protest(BIC throwaways?) so I was "right" in a way although not strictly US.Lisser wrote:Wasn't it the boobs?We-Are-The-Champions wrote:i thought the razor blades were thrown in South America?The Mir@cle wrote:The US just didn't get the IWTBF video and were rather shocked at seeing four men in drag. It was banned by MTV at the time. It's a spoof on Coronation Street.....for any Americans it's a UK TV Soap...and I agree with you when you say that Freddie being gay was not fully accepted over there. They even apparantly threw razor blades at Freddie in 1980 as a protest at his mustache!!. The writing was on the wall for Queen as far as US tours was concerned after the release of Hot Space. It resulted in very poor record sales and empty seats at concerts. Queen, and probably any other band under these circumstances, were therefore reluctant to do any further US tours....unsold seats, apathy, poor record sales so decided to concentrate on other markets. It took the Wayne's World movie and Bo Rhap to resurrect Queen as a major artiste in the US. Apparantly, it was being called "Bohemian Rhapcity" by some people and shows, possibly how much Queen had been forgotten in the US? It got to number 2 in the Billboard Charts!!.. so made Queen popular and cool again to the general US public. Also didn't Brian tour as support for Guns'N'Roses in 1993? Brian might have toured as a support on the strength of this as well as being asked by Guns'N'Roses so Brian at least doesn't ignore the US audience. America does not hate Queen and Queen does not hate America!!. You've got WWRY and Hollywood Walk Of Fame for god's sake and the possibility of a tour in September/October 2005!! There's always been a fan base in the US as in any other country so look forward to the tour when it's announced!!<font color="whitesmoke">bambam wrote: There's a prospect of them touring. It's not an all out war between the U.S. and Queen, you know. Does We Will Rock You @ Paris Las Vegas ring a bell? No animosity there, man. Hollywood walk of fame? What's this America-hates-Queen thing anyway?Isn't it a fact that they almost sold no records in the US after making the IWTBF video?? I don't think that Freddie being gay was fully accepted there. I guess that's why they didn't come over to the US the last years they toured. Razor blades were sent by fans to Freddie in 1980 as certain fans....me not included.... liked his new mustached image or so I read somewhere. |
Voice of Reason 2018 16.02.2005 12:17 |
Hey 7Innuendo7, Did you know that QPR is a soccer team in the UK? It stands for Queens Park Rangers. Glad to hear you're hoping they tour the US! |
Voice of Reason 2018 17.02.2005 06:11 |
Hey! Last night I saw Body Language being used in Nip / Tuck! Surely this now paves the way for a North American tour!!! |
goinback 18.02.2005 01:38 |
I want to boogie oogie oogie too if that's ok :) Lots of people I know have told me about Queen touring (I'm here in the US) just because it's been in the news, so to me it seems like a lot of non-Queen fans know about it. Especially with some Bad Co songs I'm sure it will be a big hit. I think a lot of people here are over the gay thing honestly. Lots of teenage males from the '70s will probably remember Brian May's guitar playing. Plus there's the whole sort of glam-rock revival via The Darkness, etc.... I think the rock stations will be talking about it quite a bit in whatever town the band is coming to, since no one thought it would happen. Several weeks ago on the NHL pregame they were doing some kind of interview with game footage, and they played 4 Queen songs in the background! They played Under Pressure, A Kind Of Magic and something else which all were sort of sports-themed. Then they played Radio Ga-Ga which was an odd choice so I figured they must have just had a Queen fan doing the music, and it lasted over 5 minutes. I have been noticing more and more Queen here everywhere lately. |
7Innuendo7 18.02.2005 10:55 |
Queens Park Rangers? oi, love soccer! Brian would be a forward, Roger a midfielder, Paul a halfback? Fullback? Who's the goalie? Deacon? ;) bring 'em on! |
We Are The Champions 19.02.2005 11:16 |
Voice of Reason 2005 wrote: Hey! Last night I saw Body Language being used in Nip / Tuck! Surely this now paves the way for a North American tour!!!I hope that choosing Body Language...which is absolute crap and Queen's worst ever single... is no reflection on the show! Probably chosen for its vanity content and of course body reference. Don't think Body Language being played has affected the possibility of a NA tour at all....just a red herring. |
7Innuendo7 20.02.2005 10:59 |
Maybe (maybe not) this is another topic, but I'd really love to hear Modern Times Rock n' Roll and March of the Black Queen. (Turning on stereo...) Anyone remember talk of Queen's VH1 special just before 9/11/01 getting cancelled for some such rumors? ur, (Q+PR) play the entire first album for an American audience and shoot for dvd? IMHO might depend on fan Rx to PR, I mean, we all know there are various opinions. Debatable sales potential (or possibly huge in the Euro market), but I bet the fans would dig it. "...i'm dreaming...it's bliss..." |
The Real Wizard 20.02.2005 23:21 |
jasen101 wrote: an incredibly homophobic US throughout Ronald Reagan's terms definately took Queen out of the spotlight after 82.That's an excellent point. Of all the times we've talked about why Queen progressively died in the USA throughout the 80s, this has never been mentioned... a huge factor. |
Maz 20.02.2005 23:31 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:If that is true, why were other gay artists able to make it in the 1980s?jasen101 wrote: an incredibly homophobic US throughout Ronald Reagan's terms definately took Queen out of the spotlight after 82.That's an excellent point. Of all the times we've talked about why Queen progressively died in the USA throughout the 80s, this has never been mentioned... a huge factor. It's easier to blame the "prudish" American public than to blame Queen's reluctance to tour. |
The Real Wizard 20.02.2005 23:54 |
Much of Queen's audience was originally a heterosexual male rock audience who became turned off once they realized Freddie was gay. Wham had their audience picked out from day one. It wasn't about Queen's reluctance to tour USA... they just wanted to go to other countries, because they had spent so much time in the USA. They planned to come back in '87, but we all know what happened by that point. |
Maz 21.02.2005 00:05 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Much of Queen's audience was originally a heterosexual male rock audience who became turned off once they realized Freddie was gay.If that was the case, then Hot Space should be blamed. And perhaps Wham had their audience pegged, but they were not the only gay act during the 80s. Why didn't Elton John, for instance, suffer a similar backlash that we think Queen had? It was Queen's decision not to tour America in 84/85, and they did that for their own reasons as GH alludes to. Blaming their lack of success on the American public, as Brian recently did in an interview, is a copout in my opinion. |
deleted user 21.02.2005 01:11 |
MercuryArts wrote: I think I will cry if they choose not to hit the states later this year. Now having money to go see them I am planning to hit the N.Y.C., Balt., D.C., Philly, Cleveland, and VA. shows. Provided they play all those cities. Hears to hoping & waiting once again w/ baited breath.Ooooo if they do your the US, we will, have to meet up, I will be hitting all shows from Philly thru VA!! |
deleted user 21.02.2005 01:16 |
I think Queen's fan base in America were rockers. In America, people tend to be extremely genre loyal, more loyal to genre than bands. So, when Queen became more of a pop group in the 80's, their rocker fans wanted nothing to do with it. Also, they lost the Album Oriented Rock aspect. I don't think homosexuality had much to do with it. The New York Dolls made it in the US for christs sake! |