QueenZone discussion #457070

mogge wrote: Yes, let's hope they'll come to Sweden. But i hardly think they can fill Råsunda Stadium like they did last time they were here.

merenahti wrote: Ääh, ja Ruotsin ticnetissä pitää maksaa visalla ja noutaessa se sama visa pitää olla mukana ja minä olen kaulaa myöten... pulassa. Menee maailman hankalimmaksi.

BlueRock wrote: Why not, but what's you point now? We're not talking about anything "bad" or telling ghost stories. Just wondering :D

Thomas Tønnesen wrote: Da tar vi litt på norsk også.... Er det mange nordmenn som tar turen til Stockholm da ?? Jeg tipper det kan bli VELDIG mange folk fra hele skandinavia!!!

Geir wrote: VG hadde en annonse for konserten dagen billettene ble lagt ut for salg, men siden den dagen (31.1)har jeg ikke sett noen annonser her i Norge. Forøvrig ser det ut som konserten selger dårlig. Er bare solgt 2-3000.

Tero wrote: There might be a potential audience, but it's wasted with the enormous travelling distances... After buying a plane ticket and booking a hotel, the extortionately priced concert ticket is less than a quarter of the total costs!

Tero wrote: I say so because it simply is true.

You can of course concentrate on the cheapest tickets available, but how many of those are on sale? 15% of all perhaps, while the most expensive seats are the majority.

Tero wrote: Despite my poor wording, that is exactly what I meant... The average tickets for the Queen concert cost as much as the most expensive tickets for those other tribute acts!

But then again, that wasn't the main point I was trying to make earlier today. It was that the casual listeners won't travel for hours or pay thousands (of your currency) to see a "Queen tribute band".

Tero wrote: Blaming it on the marketing is just a convenient excuse... I don't know about advertising in Sweden, but for major Arena concerts in Finland there is no more than one run (about 30 times) of TV spots for the less known acts, or a handful of newspaper ads for major acts on the weekend before the ticket sales begin.

The best "advertisement" that artists can hope for is an article or a column in a major newspaper, where the ticket sale is conveniently announced, and almost any concert is (nearly) sold out within days without the need for any paid advertisement.

(In case you're wondering, I am actually going to the Stockholm concert myself... But I have no illusions about it being a Queen show.)

Tero wrote: I would like to think that the Scandinavian (and Finnish etc.) reluctance to buy the "Queen" tickets is indicative of the general attitude towards performing without Freddie.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't your favourite band member Brian? Because it's a lot easier for his fans to accept the personnel changes than for the general public who identified Freddie with the band.

Danne wrote: But it seems not only Queen are having trouble selling tickets, since the aforementioned artists seem to have a lot more to sell to make it a full house. Of course, if Freddie were alive, I also think that the tickets would have sold much faster, but why is the reluctance so much bigger here in Scandinavia, than it is in other parts of Europe? Surely Fred was as popular in, say, Holland or Germany, as he was here in Sweden. I wonder if it might have something to do with the Swedish press focusing only on Freddie (and not even when he were alive were Queen very popular in the Swedish press). When Brian May performed on the top of the Buckingham Palace I bet most of the British general public knew who he was. I bet that very few here in Sweden would have known.

Danne wrote: In my opinion (and this might seem a bit like a contradiction) Queen were a four-piece band, where all members played an equal part, but I've always thought that the major part of Queen's sound were Brian's guitar playing in combination with, above all, Roger's drumming. That's why, to me, Brian's solo outings sounded like Brian May, but, in contrast, things like 'No-One But You' or Queen's performance on the Buckingham Palace gig, sounded like Queen (and therefor, in my opinion, were Queen).

Tero wrote: I wouldn't go think it's the press's fault, as it's natural for almost any band to have the vocalist represent the entire group. He's used to being the centre of attention on the stage, so he's going to be that outside the concert halls as well.

I couldn't tell the difference in sound between Caroline Corr or Roger Taylor, so it's hardly a surprise that I don't think of him or Brian as that integral a part of Queen sound.

On a completely different note... Do you happen to know if the festivities on the weekend of the concert are going to cause any major changes in the city? I was hoping to do a bit of sightseeing as well, since I'm going to pay a fortune for the show.

Sicmot wrote: How reliant is that number of sold tickets (2-3000) ??

Im from Finland too and I think also they should have performed here.. since its been much longer they were last here than in stockholm..

Sicmot wrote: an you call to ticnets callcenter and ask?? the number is +46 77 170 70 70

Danne wrote: When were they last in Helsinki?

Danne wrote: But Freddie seldom represented Queen, in interviews etc. It was more often than not Brian and/or Roger who handled the interviews, etc.

Danne wrote: *shock, horror!* So you tell me you hear no difference between Freddie's solo albums and Queen? I think it's a huge difference (not only in quality, but in sound). I think it's strange how you can listen to a band, and not spot the differences between, say, Roger Taylor and Caroline Corr, because the differences is almost as huge as between Freddie Mercury and Andrea Corr! (although maybe not as obvious, if you're not used to listening to drumming). A good example is listening to/watching The Corrs together with Roger, when they performed at the 46664 concert. Try to guess which parts of the drum solo are Roger and which are Caroline, and see if you're right! :) And don't get me started on Brian's guitar sound... :P

Danne wrote: I don't think anything extreme will happen to the city. Some partying, and teenagers beating eachother up, I guess, but nothing serious... :)

Tero wrote: Yet Freddie is the one whose pictures are presented in newspapers whenever they mention Queen... Strange isn't it?

I could probably tell the difference between Freddie's solo work and the regular Queen albums, but that's only because of the choice of instruments. If Mr. Bad guy had been recorded without electric drums and synthesisers, there's a good chance I wouldn't know it from a Queen album. :P

You're right that I don't listen to drumming... I like to listen to songs as a whole instead of individual instruments.

It just happens to be that vocals stand out in almost any pop or rock music.

Danne wrote: It's very easy to believe that Freddie "saved" Brian and Roger, when they formed Queen, but, in my opinion, they were a lot closer to success than he was at the moment. It was the mix between their different styles and personalities that created the core foundation of Queen.

Danne wrote: Obviously not. If you would listen to the whole how could you avoid listening to the drumming! :) You don't think that Brian's guitar solos stand out?

Tero wrote: I don't think either of them would have been succesful individually. Smile was a dead-end because none of the three members had a real singing talent, and Freddie needed a better backing band.

I would agree with something I've read... That drums and bass are working as istruments if you DON'T pay attention to them. They're forming a base obviously, but they aren't really meant to be listened. :/

Brian's guitar work is fine if it's limited to less than ten seconds at a time. Then again, I don't really like any guitar solos.

BlueRock wrote: Ei taida olla kovin hyvin kaupaksi mennyt, mutta joku todellakin saa ottaa selvää, sillä omat ruotsin kielen taitoni on sen verran olemattomat, että on edes turha yrittää...

BlueRock wrote: Ajattelin vielä semmosta kysyä, että mitenkäs sä kopiot mun tekstin omaan viestiin? Niin juu, täytyy sitten soittaa kuitenkin, jos englanniksi palvellaan...

Sicmot wrote:

BlueRock wrote: Ajattelin vielä semmosta kysyä, että mitenkäs sä kopiot mun tekstin omaan viestiin? Niin juu, täytyy sitten soittaa kuitenkin, jos englanniksi palvellaan...

Klikkaa tota " symbolia tos otsikkorivin päällä.. Soita aamulal sinen ja postaa heti infoo tänne..

Danne wrote: The difference between us of course being that I don't see Brian and Roger as a "backing band", but as an integral part of the band (just like Freddie). No-one could really know back then that Freddie would be the great rock vocalist he would become. He had the image, but not yet the fully fledged voice. I think Brian and Roger thought of their union as a little bit more risky than Freddie did.

Danne wrote: In some way I can see what you mean, but that doesn't mean they [I]can't[/I] be listened to. And even if you think of them as "only" the foundation (which they are), a foundation can be built in many, unique ways. If you swap Roger with some other drummer, it won't be the same (the same goes for John, of course).

Danne wrote: Ten seconds? Hmm... I don't see how you can be a Queen fan, and not like Brian's solos. But maybe you are not; you might be a Freddie fan, which is a different thing. I'm beginning to suspect that... :) And, besides, Brian's guitar playing isn't just about solos, it's about everything else he does, as well. But, to give this another angle, Freddie's piano playing was also a huge part of Queen's sound, which is often overlooked. Both Freddie and Brian were fine pianists, but their playing styles are very different from eachother... But, let me guess, you haven't noticed that! :P

Sicmot wrote: Nii, puhukaa suomea niin on helpompi argumentoida :) Ja joku teistä fingelskoista vois huomenna selvittää paljonko niiitä lippuja on myyty glubenille..

Tero wrote: I hope you noticed that the "backing band" was only a sweeping generalisation designed to provoke you? :P

To some people it makes very little difference who's on the base...

I dug out my 46664 DVD and listened to Toss The Feathers. I tried to concentrate on the drums, and I've heard the song before a few hundred times (I've even heard in live twice)... But I couldn't even tell if it has two drummers!

Next you'll probably tell me that I can't be a Queen fan unless I think Roger is sexy? :P

You're right, I can't tell the difference between Brian or Freddie playing the piano. How could I? I don't play the piano myself, so I don't know how it's supposed to sound. But as long as it sounds like a piano, it's fine for me...

Danne wrote: To some maybe, but, first of all, not to the band. Queen wouldn't have been as big without, say, Brian's guitar playing, even if you can't spot the difference between him and Eric Clapton.

I really find that odd. Surely you must hear, if you really concentrate, the two different hihat sounds, panned differently. Miss Corr's tight and somewhat stiff panned on the left (if I remember correctly) and Roger's rockier and sloppier (!) on the right. And during the drum solo there's no mistaking the two of them.

But if all you're interested in (and can hear) regarding Queen is Freddie's voice, then I still would say that you're more of a Freddie fan than a Queen fan, not that there's anything wrong with that, of course! But to say that is almost like saying: "as long as it sounds like a voice, it's fine for me"! To hear a good example of Brian's and Freddie's piano playing, listen to 'Save Me' on the "We Will Rock You" video/DVD, where Brian starts off, and Freddie takes over.

Tero wrote: I think that the quality of compositions has more to do with the popularity than the sound of the guitarist. Of course it would be almost imposible to to picture what it would sound like with somebody else...

I did listen to Save Me, and I can't tell the difference between who's playing.

But to say that it's equal to "a voice is a voice" is ridiculous.

A better comparison of different singing voices would be different keayboards.

Danne wrote: I meant the live version, where both of the play the piano. Surely you can see the difference, and then be able to hear the difference? No, it isn't. Try telling that to, let's say, a professional piano player. He/she would tell you that who the player is matters much more than on which instrument he/she's playing. In your perception there might be no difference, but that doesn't mean there aren't one. If people can tell who's conducting an orchestra just by listening to a recording, surely there's nothing absurd in stating that different instrumentalists leads to totally different results.

It all has to do with how much time and effort you put into hearing the music, instead of simply listening to it (or maybe the other way around). And differences between voices aren't the easiest to hear for everybody, as it is for you. I know people, who probably could tell Freddie Mercury's piano playing from Brian May's, but who confuses John Lennon's singing with Paul McCartney, something which I find absurd. :)

No, that might do as an analogy for your vocal cords, and not much more. But it's what you do with them that defines the voice, as it is what you do with you piano, which defines the sound of it. And I happen to be a singing teacher... :P

Thomas Tønnesen wrote: I just called Globen... They have sold approx 8000 tickets.. Considering the POOR advertisement this is not bad and it's still over two motnts to the gig!!! Let's say they made some posters for the scandinavian countris.... If so I'd say they would sell out in a couple of days... This is good news :)

Tero wrote:

Danne wrote: When were they last in Helsinki?

The last (and only time) Queen or any of its member played in Finland was back in '74. They played at the 1,500 seat House of Culture which is a few hundred metres from where I live.

Ambassador of Rhye wrote:

Tero wrote:

Danne wrote: When were they last in Helsinki?

The last (and only time) Queen or any of its member played in Finland was back in '74. They played at the 1,500 seat House of Culture which is a few hundred metres from where I live.

WRONG! Roger played in Helsinki with The Cross in 1990 on Blue Rock tour.

BlueRock wrote: Tero, Kuubassa on kuulemma hyviä sikareita? :P

BlueRock wrote: Ihan vinkkinä vaan: link .....mutta eihän tarkoitukseni ole kuitenkaan kiusata ketään :D

merenahti wrote: ja pankkikin vielä tietysti veti välistä kun teki tilisiirron ulkomaille.)

Sicmot wrote: Missä sä asut ja millasella porukalla oot lähössä?'.. meiton lähös about 5-6. Eikä olla kans mietitty yöpynmistä.. mitä sillä blue1:llä kustantaa menolento? Me ollaan kans Tampereelta.

merenahti wrote: Miun lippu tuli tänään postissa. Hii! (Kalliiksi tuli - 200 kruunua postikuluja ja pankkikin vielä tietysti veti välistä kun teki tilisiirron ulkomaille.) Suunnitelmani on, että lennän Blue1:lla Tampereelta la-aamuna ja lähden takaisin Vikingillä su-aamuna. Eikä mitään yöpaikkaa Tukholmasta tietenkään, sehän olisi kallista ja nynnyä. Onko kukaan muu vielä miettinyt näin pitkälle?

merenahti wrote: Blue1:lla Tampere-Arlanda 39 euroa lauantaiaamuna puoli seitsemältä. Koska laivamatka, jolle pitäisi lähteä jo edellisenä iltana maksaisi 23 euroa (plus juna Turkuun), ajattelin että lento on kätsympi. Takaisin se laiva maksaakin sitten jostain syystä 10 euroa, kai siksi että on sunnuntai eikä perjantai. Mie olen matkaamassa yksin, ja siksi ehkä seura kelpaisi, varsinkin yön viettäminen yksin Tukholmassa ei ole ehkä fiksuin ratkaisu.

Sicmot wrote: Sä voit joinata meirän remmiin jos oot tosiaan tampereelta.. kai meki voitas sit tota lentämistä harkita.. toine vaihtis on se et 2 x laivamatka..

valentine wrote: Hei, kaikki Suomesta lähtevät!!! Monelta aiotte mennä passiin sinne Globenin eteen kun se keikka alkaa 19.30? Tietysti niiden, joilla on paikkalippu ei tarvitse siellä päivystää niin kauaa, mutta voisivatko ne, jotka menevät sinne parketille, kertoa, monelta sielä kannattaisi olla. Kts

merenahti wrote: No jopas. Nyt kun katoin Blue1:n sivuilta niin la-aamun lennon hinta onkin pompsahtanut kahdeksaankymppiin. WTF? Joten saattaa olla laivamatka eessä miullakin. Ans kattoo nyt.

Simmen wrote: Hey, keep this thread in swedish or english. I mean this is a thread about the gig in Sweden. If you want to discuss this gig in finnish. Then just create a new thread named, for exampel: "Finnish people to Sweden" Hey, we don't understand! That's why! =P

Simmen wrote: Hey, keep this thread in swedish or english. I mean this is a thread about the gig in Sweden. If you want to discuss this gig in finnish. Then just create a new thread named, for exampel: "Finnish people to Sweden" Hey, we don't understand! That's why! =P

pma wrote: I'm still "NOT" planning on going, but I figured one of you Finns can give me an estimate of how much money you'll be spending on the trip?

Simmen wrote: Hey, keep this thread in swedish or english. I mean this is a thread about the gig in Sweden. If you want to discuss this gig in finnish. Then just create a new thread named, for exampel: "Finnish people to Sweden" Hey, we don't understand! That's why! =P

Simmen wrote: Hey, keep this thread in swedish or english. I mean this is a thread about the gig in Sweden. If you want to discuss this gig in finnish. Then just create a new thread named, for exampel: "Finnish people to Sweden" Hey, we don't understand! That's why! =P

Tero wrote:

pma wrote: I'm still "NOT" planning on going, but I figured one of you Finns can give me an estimate of how much money you'll be spending on the trip?

I think it would be silly to go just for a concert of half a band... :P I'm going to fly from Helsinki, spend the night in a decent hotel in the city, and do a bit of sightseeing as well. That means that for me the trip is going to cost around 300€.

Pierre wrote: Today i started to make a Queen Flag to the globe concert 1x2 m (Hammer to fall) if they will play it =) Slow/Fast should be perfect !

TheGame wrote: Anyone from Sweden that knows a cheap hotel in Stockholm? I know Maude Hotel has affordable prices, and Quality Hotel at the Globe is too expensive. I sure wanna go to the concert, but money is always the issue...damn!!

Simmen wrote: Oh, I haven't got any information now in the middle of March. It's only 48 days left until the gig in Sweden. Someone that have some information about sold tickets? Or a phonenumber to Ticnet?