| bigc 08.01.2005 12:37 |
I know it originated from the barcelona album, or around that time, but were Freddie's vocals recorded then too? It sounds like it when I listen to it, because they sound alot more powerful than the Innuendo-era vocals. |
| flash00 08.01.2005 12:47 |
yup !! i think it was at the end of 88 early 89 with mike moran. amazing vocals on that track. |
| AllDeadAllDead 08.01.2005 12:52 |
i know ive read where people don't like this innuendo track, perhaps because it originated as a mercury solo. but i gotta say this is my favorite track from inuendo, tied with slightly mad and twtdool. it has elements of somebody to love i think. |
| bigc 08.01.2005 13:21 |
was it a late addition as they ran out of time to put in another queen track? |
| artist_nine 08.01.2005 13:49 |
What a great song, by the way! |
| Serry... 08.01.2005 14:28 |
Song was rearranged for Queen, so his vocal parts came from Innuendo sessions. |
| deleted user 08.01.2005 18:00 |
I don't mind that track but it's not my favorite. I'm not sure when it was recorded but his vocals sound more 1988 or very early 1989. |
| bigc 08.01.2005 18:07 |
ahhh you agree? its just there seems to be more strength and power to them |
| Sebastian 08.01.2005 18:16 |
I don't think his vocal tracks com from Innuendo sessions. Apparently it was something they all got involved gradually. Perhaps they had it half-done (i.e. without guitar overdubs, or timpani or whatever) at Miracle sessions. |
| bigc 08.01.2005 18:20 |
yep thats what I thought. the line... i orta go to bed, and have an early night. the power freddie has when he sings that line is what convinces me its pre-innuendo |
| maxpower 08.01.2005 19:32 |
i reckon from lisenting to the song so many times the vocals weren't from barca/miracle but from the innuendo sessions.. but until the anthology comes out if it ever does..like the beatles we'll never know |
| My Best Friend 08.01.2005 19:50 |
check the website out bechstein debauchary or some shit like that |
| Sebastian 08.01.2005 21:44 |
My Best Friend wrote: check the website out bechstein debauchary or some shit like thatYes but that shit doesn't have info on that |
| Serry... 09.01.2005 16:28 |
Sorry, Sebastian, but I can't understand why they had to use old tapes for recording new album (that's not MIH case)? 1) It seems like we've got all recorded tracks from 'The Miracle' era: album, B-sides, demos (even 11-thminute version of Stealin'), there's no any notice about demo of 'All God's People' from that period - so vocal probably couldn't come from The Miracle sessions. 2) Since the Freddie's Box Set has been released we can say that there's no demo of 'All God's People' by Freddie (yes, there are some tracks left out of box set, but they're available over the Internet) - again vocal parts can't came from Freddie's solo sessions. 3) They recorded demo of 'Delilah' at 1989 - vocal parts of its are different to album's version, so they re-recorded them later, so why the same (if we accept that there already were recorded vocals of Freddie) couldn't be done with 'All God's People'? 4) As we know 'Sheer Heart Attack' song was written by Roger for SHA album (and probably SHA's version was recorded as well), but released much later on NOTW - but Freddie's vocal came from NOTW sessions, not from SHA (well, actually I think on original version lead-vocal could be sung by Roger, but anyway) - they recorded new version of song. 5) During Innuendo sessions Freddie was still able to sing and there was not need in using old takes. So why did they have to use non-Innuendo takes of Freddie's vocal for recording 'All God's People'? I can't see any obvious reasons. BTW, I think that only one Innuendo track where Freddie's voice is closer to Miracle standarts than to Innuendo's is 'Delilah'! Probably because it was first recorded song for this album and it was short after The Miracle release. And besides I really doubt that Freddie wrote 'All God's People' for 'Barcelona' album, he wrote it for his unfinished album (as well as all those tracks from sessions at 1987), IMO. Well, it's just the guess - maybe I'm wrong. I wasn't Queen sound engineer (and this is very pity), so I can't be sure for 100%! :-) |
| bigc 09.01.2005 16:50 |
I assumed a major reason would be timesaving. he could work on vocals for other songs while the rest of them did the music for all gods people. then when he couldnt make it to a session, they'd catch up by doing the music for the next track he did. |
| Sebastian 09.01.2005 16:52 |
Sorry, Sebastian, but I can't understand why they had to use old tapes for recording new album (that's not MIH case)?If the tapes were good, they wouldn't replace them. I guess (rather than know) that, for instance, Mike's piano playing was kept. They overdubbed the "rest" (guitars, bass, timpani, perhaps changed the sound of a synth, perhaps the vocals were later as you say...) 1) so vocal probably couldn't come from The Miracle sessions.No, but Barcelona sessions (which are more or less at the same time) 2) Since the Freddie's Box Set has been released we can say that there's no demo of 'All God's People' by Freddie (yes, there are some tracks left out of box set, but they're available over the Internet) - again vocal parts can't came from Freddie's solo sessions.As far as I know, All God's People demo (called 'Africa By Night' or something like that) was left out the Box Set because it was going to be included in the Queen box-set (whenever it's released). Btw there are more tracks left of the box set that we can't find over the internet, for example Victory. 3) They recorded demo of 'Delilah' at 1989 - vocal parts of its are different to album's version, so they re-recorded them later, so why the same (if we accept that there already were recorded vocals of Freddie) couldn't be done with 'All God's People'?Delilah is not the only track coming from 1989. Innuendo sessions begun in March, and as far as I know, the title track was one of the first to come. When Steve went they showed him Slightly Mad and I Can't Live With You. The case of Delilah is simply because the vocals were horrible. It was a demo, but the "finished" version could have been easily done the next day. 4) As we know 'Sheer Heart Attack' song was written by Roger for SHA album (and probably SHA's version was recorded as well), but released much later on NOTW - but Freddie's vocal came from NOTW sessions, not from SHA (well, actually I think on original version lead-vocal could be sung by Roger, but anyway) - they recorded new version of song.Very different situation. Rog had it half-finished. When he completed its songwriting he recorded a new backing track. (I guess). During the synth era they could save their ideas in midi or whatever, and use them later on. Same for "human" takes. Note The Dark (in Brian's solo album) comes from Flash sessions. 5) During Innuendo sessions Freddie was still able to sing and there was not need in using old takes.Unless the old take was already "IT" But anyway, you know what's the difference between the end of Miracle sessions and the beginning of Innuendo sessions? Two months!. So either side is right, it's not such a big change. Still it's nice to write long posts :) |
| livialow 19.08.2019 06:57 |
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| ploughman 19.08.2019 19:15 |
I have always imagined that the core of the song (the one with the choirs) comes from Miracle/Barcelona - era recordings. Freddies voice definitely sounds more 1988sh than 1990sh. The gospel part in the middle has real drums and bass, unlike the rest of the song, so it is fair to assume that it is a later addition? Maybe that was done during Innuendo sessions? "I went to a dreeeaammm" -line at least sounds mor like Innuendo era Freddie to me. |
| ploughman 19.08.2019 19:37 |
Wait...? This is the real demo version? link |
| Jam Monkey 19.08.2019 20:04 |
Yes, it's a genuine demo, from a work in progress tape sent to Capitol in 1988 |
| Sebastian 19.08.2019 20:40 |
ploughman wrote: I have always imagined that the core of the song (the one with the choirs) comes from Miracle/Barcelona - era recordings.Actually, the song predates both Barcelona and The Miracle. It was done before the Barcelona project, not 'for' it. |
| dysan 24.08.2019 07:52 |
So effectively for what was to be the album that The Great Pretender was trailing? |
| Sebastian 25.08.2019 16:47 |
Not as such. According to Michael Moran, Frederick did 'The Great Pretender' but then didn't want to do any more covers, despite the record label suggesting an album full of them. The timeline seems to have gone like this: 1. Michael and Frederick record that cover in late 1986. 2. Michael and Frederick start working on a sophomore solo album for the latter. 3. The album gets interrupted and they do a duet album instead, featuring Montserrat Caballé. 4. Queen return to work and do 'The Miracle', 'Innuendo' and some stuff to be included later on 'Made in Heaven'. 5. Frederick dies, preventing him to complete the solo album. 'All God's People' began in stage 2 (before 'Barcelona' was even an 'Idea' [pun intended]) and was later completed in stage 4. It had nothing to do with the 'Barcelona' project. |
| dysan 25.08.2019 17:35 |
Agreed. |