| deleted user 20.12.2004 06:12 |
Look at this news --> link I saw there is written "Deacon has been invited to play, but has yet to make up his mind." Does that mean he hasn't say no yet??? Then it's possible that he wants to come along:P Just a tiny possibility, but a possibility and not a NO. |
| Richard Orchard 20.12.2004 06:21 |
chance = nil |
| Johann Code 20.12.2004 06:24 |
Do not believe everything you read in the news. |
| Borhap80 20.12.2004 06:33 |
I remember an interview some years ago where Roger said that John didnt rule out playing with them live.... Whatever that meant!! |
| Regor 20.12.2004 06:43 |
Wait and see - in cologne, when Roger was giving autograsphs to us fans waiting outside, he actually said to us that they are going to ask John and theres !!!!! (if I heard it right, but some others confirmed it) I was already wondering why none of the 20 other waiting fans in cologne had posted this before... Now that's something to think about, isn't it ? |
| Regor 20.12.2004 06:43 |
Wait and see - in cologne, when Roger was talking to us fans waiting outside, he actually said that they are going to ask John and there's a good chance of him joining the tour !!!!! (if I heard it right, but some others confirmed it) I was already wondering why none of the 20 other waiting fans in cologne had posted this before... Now that's something to think about, isn't it ? |
| jeff payne 1680 20.12.2004 07:25 |
He's been invited to a meeting in January |
| The Mir@cle 20.12.2004 07:30 |
interesting... |
| Hankster 20.12.2004 10:14 |
more than interesting .. it's hopefull :) |
| The Mir@cle 20.12.2004 10:38 |
Just read this at the Notica Board at Queenonline.com... Jacky Smith, the head of the Official International Queen Fan Club, said the following: As far as I am aware brian and Roger keep in touch with John, who I hear is happy in his retirement and happy with the musical! |
| Benn 20.12.2004 11:50 |
If you believe anything that Jacky says......... I remember her telling me taht there was a box set due for release in 2000 and that there had been a 6-part Radio show comissioned by the BBC for broadcast...... Still, she gets her free weekend at Butlins every year for running a t-shirt selling servise..... |
| The Mir@cle 20.12.2004 12:51 |
Thanx Benn.. didn't know her at all. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 20.12.2004 13:08 |
jeff payne wrote: He's been invited to a meeting in JanuaryAnd your source is? |
| jeff payne 1680 20.12.2004 15:17 |
my source- tomato, A friend of a bass player who sometimes plays with them told me (Steve Barnicle) |
| Gezelle 20.12.2004 19:03 |
Do you mean Steve Barnacle, the one that plays on Roger's Electric Fire album? So it's a friend of Steve that told you about that meeting, did I understand that right? |
| pma 20.12.2004 19:16 |
I think it would be wonderful if John played with them again. Heck, maybe they'd even finally do a few tracks from "TMITS" live. I think any audience would just love "Red Dirt" ...It would absolutely feel like a new Queen-song. |
| Hankster 21.12.2004 08:46 |
Well .. John MUST come if it's not; Paul = lead vocal / guitar Brian = lead guitar / backing vocals / lead vocal Roger = percussion / backing vocals / lead vocal John = bass Spike = keybord / guitar / backing vocals and maybe Phil Collins for 'Radio Ga Ga' and 'I'm In Love ..' for the drums? hehe then I wont go to one of the concerts :P ow .. well .. maybe one :) |
| Mlaimo 21.12.2004 09:58 |
This would be an even bigger event than the Paul Rodgers announcement, at least for Queen fans. I've been frustrated over John's silence these past years. To have him come out of retirement would be MAJOR. As far as I'm concerned, if John doesn't join, then you can't call it 'Queen'. Brian and Roger are only 50% of what Queen was, and to me, that's not enough to call it Queen, as opposed to "An evening of Queen music", with Brian May, Roger Taylor, and Paul Rogers. The band should be a band, not a 'show'. No backup singers, or extra musicians, except for Spike to handle the keys. |
| The Mir@cle 21.12.2004 10:43 |
blablabla... It's about the name again. Can't we finish that discussion?? Enough said about it already.. |
| GiantSpider 21.12.2004 11:26 |
That's the thing. They will probably be backing singers and: Jamie Moses - Playing Rythm Guitar Maybe even another drummer? I would prefer the only auxillary musicians to be a bass player (if john doesn't show) & Spike (Obviously) |
| Hankster 21.12.2004 12:21 |
believe me people, this; Paul = lead vocal / guitar Brian = lead guitar / backing vocals / lead vocal Roger = percussion / backing vocals / lead vocal John = bass Spike = keybord / guitar / backing vocals would be enough .. no backing vocals, or dancers or other crap :) Spem Bri's mail-box with this. Let's all send the man 20 e-mails with this line-up. hehe |
| Benn 21.12.2004 12:22 |
Why "should" they bother with Spike? he's a pain in the ass sound-wise because the keys tend to be mixed far too high. Listen to anything post '81 and the keys are almost as prominent as Fred's voice - certainly mixed above Brian. Ideally, it'd just be a 4-piece, but the band will do what they are told by the promoter and record company. |
| Hankster 21.12.2004 12:24 |
Benn wrote: Why "should" they bother with Spike? he's a pain in the ass sound-wise because the keys tend to be mixed far too high.I think it's not, and why should that be Spike's fould? :S |
| electric.fire 13630 21.12.2004 12:55 |
Benn said ;- "Still, she gets her free weekend at Butlins every year for running a t-shirt selling servise.... The free weekend at Butlins you mention is actually @ Pontins and it aint as free as you think - the fan club finances it and not the band. Without the fan clu there would be no convention which means that once a year 2000 people would not have the best weekend you could imagine - Then again you have probably never been so it is easy for you to sit in your ivory tower and be a critic. Dont knock Jacky and the fan club - she does a sterling job with little cash. |
| jeff payne 1680 21.12.2004 15:02 |
Gezelle wrote: Do you mean Steve Barnacle, the one that plays on Roger's Electric Fire album? So it's a friend of Steve that told you about that meeting, did I understand that right?Yep |
| deleted user 21.12.2004 15:08 |
It would be brilliant if John were to play with them again. I bet he won't though. In fact i sort of know it's not goint to happen. You can never believe everything you read in the papers. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 21.12.2004 16:13 |
Mlaimo wrote: This would be an even bigger event than the Paul Rodgers announcement, at least for Queen fans. I've been frustrated over John's silence these past years. To have him come out of retirement would be MAJOR. As far as I'm concerned, if John doesn't join, then you can't call it 'Queen'. Brian and Roger are only 50% of what Queen was, and to me, that's not enough to call it Queen, as opposed to "An evening of Queen music", with Brian May, Roger Taylor, and Paul Rogers. The band should be a band, not a 'show'. No backup singers, or extra musicians, except for Spike to handle the keys.Well said. |
| quackboy 22.12.2004 00:31 |
please, mr John Deacon, the universe of queen fans need you presence on 2005's tour. we really need, because no-one but you can play the REAL QUEEN BASS GROOVES! |
| great king rat 1138 22.12.2004 06:39 |
Well, personally I'm with Hankster on this one. Without John, the show could not (or should not) be billed as Queen & Paul Rogers. If Brian and Roger go ahead and carry on using the queen name as a tool for their own celebrity rather than going on the road in an honest tour as 'Brian May, Roger Taylor and Paul Rogers', it will be a travesty. One of my friends has even sworn that if they do this, he will give away his whole queen collection ( a bit drastic as it's worth about £2000, but at least he's standing by his principles.) On the subject of backing singers/session musicians, I can think of only two songs where queen ever used a second guitar live - Crazy Little Thing, and Hammer to Fall. So why the sudden need for a rhythm player (don't even get me started on the backing singers/dancers!) Please John, we need you to bring some sanity to this farce! |
| Mcm 22.12.2004 06:43 |
Well said Mr Quackman. NOBODY can replace Mr D as far as i'm concerned. Call me a grumpy old traditionalist if you like.... |
| GiantSpider 22.12.2004 07:19 |
Your right there is absolutely no need for Jamie to come along. But if he's there for a run through of WWRY & WATC then who knows? And yes Spike should be there! Who else would play synth/piano? And it aint his fault that the sound mixers are rammel. |
| Regor 22.12.2004 07:55 |
I would also love to see Deacy play the bass. And everyones entitled to their opinion about whether they should call this thing "Queen" or not. But this is not the first time I've read that people are "threatening" to give away their whole collection, if the tour will be called Queen, goes ahead without John and so on. Don't want to be offensive, but thats bollocks ! Whatever they do... they might collaborate with Engelbert Humperdinck, Garth Brooks and Barry Manilow... They might only release Queen + compilations in the future, or things like "The Ballads" "The Powerballads", "More Ballads"... They might postpone the Boxsets until 2028... ... but WHY THE HELL would someone want to give away his/her collection because of that ? What they do today does not change their music from 1973-1995 !!!!! |
| Gondorian Queen Fan 22.12.2004 09:37 |
There is no Queen without Freddie!.John Deacon will come?Oh,that's good news.:P |
| Hankster 22.12.2004 13:46 |
great king rat 1138 wrote: Well, personally I'm with Hankster on this one. Without John, the show could not (or should not) be billed as Queen & Paul Rogers.I didn't ment that Bri and Roger can't call themselves Queen without John. I think they've achieved enough that they may .. I think |
| bassist08 22.12.2004 15:13 |
I'd do ANYTHING to have John come back on bass. he's my role model. seriously. Look at my username. BASSIST08. Then again I'm sure he's busy in his retirement,what,with 6 kids and everything. I also agree with the fact Queen may not be Queen without Freddie, but without John as well? LONG LIVE DEACY! |
| Joma 22.12.2004 18:01 |
I would love to see John there on the road!!! But I also believe - chance is nil... |
| mike hunt 23.12.2004 00:13 |
when i tell people queen are going on tour next year, the first thing they say to me is, 'how, he's dead' |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 23.12.2004 01:00 |
It'd be a great sign of unity if John joined the others on tour, and would certainly reinforce the other lads' choice of Paul Rodgers as most worthy of singers. On the other hand, guys, let's not forget that it's just not worth it if John's heart's not in it! No one wants any half measures, so coercion is just not the answer. If he bows out, let's respect the fact that he was invited and that he made the RIGHT decision (either way). And for god's sake, can we please stop telling Brian and Roger what they can and cannot do under the Queen banner? As if your silly, whiny opinions actually matter to them! If the members of Queen irk you so much, why not punish them by finding another message board in which to unleash your vain and childish points of view? |
| The Mir@cle 23.12.2004 02:46 |
Well said GonnaUseMyPrisoners.. |
| FABIO 23.12.2004 11:01 |
Please John...just think that Surely Freddie wants that you join Brian and Roger for the tour.In these situations the diferences dont care.Surely the tour will be a great posibility to pay tribute to the greatest musician in history:FREDDIE MERCURY.God bless you. |
| 7Innuendo7 23.12.2004 12:34 |
It would be wonderful for John to complete the line-up. (Is that accurate? Can only Freddie really complete it?) Definitely John adds legitimacy to it all, but there's the line in "Hang On in There" 'don't fight for lost emotions,' and who knows what the meeting in January means. Radio is hit or miss in many places, because so much progamming (rather than actual DJing) has taken over. Back to humans! Back to humans!!! Live music is where it's at, no matter what the line-up. What does my opinion matter? IMHO John should agree only if they give him substantial decision-making power as in set list, how many nights between shows, etc etc. LA 2002 SAS Band was just an amazing display of musical thunder. Freddie brought so much focus to the songwriting, and his stage presence was undeniably superhuman. Even so no-one would argue that Audioslave should be considered completely equal to Soundgarden, or Rage Against the Machine. The points made by others about the Doors of the 21st Century seem right, as much as I love the Cult (another great English band I see missing from lists on other threads!) Just get out there and do it -- maybe a few club shows rather than big stadiums. Who knows. Gail Dorsey is awesome, and mad props to her. Even if I can't make my schedule work to include a trip to Europe, the news alone is something to be grateful for, and I'll even settle for the multiple box sets in 2050 with Queen + Paul Rodgers. "I just can't get no relief" from the muzak sewage piped in unless I'm at a show...maybe another question is, for the Queen gigs (rather than the South Africa festival), who opens for a band with stature like Queen? And has Macca been asked to play bass? ;) |
| F@lco 23.12.2004 12:36 |
Of course Brian and Roger can do what they want in calling themselves Queen or not. In my opinion - as born out by various interviews with the band over the years - Queen was always a pretty democratic, and totally solid quartet of specific people. To the layman, however, you mention Queen, and the image of identity that instantly flashes through their heads is one of Freddie Mercury, as it was he who was always the layman's focal point for the band. So I do agree with those who bemoan that they call it Queen, cos with or without John Deacon's presence, it still isn't really, is it? (Would the Stones be the Stones without Jagger? Would Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr tour as The Beatles? I think not.) Having said that - I'll still be at the gigs no matter what they call it! |