| runner70 13.12.2004 17:26 |
Hi there! Always been wondering where or when John D. saw Freddie for the last time. Never heard sth about visits at Gardn Lodge - also not in Jim Hutton's book (which i quite hate!). Do you think he made regular visits? Or already "retired" then ????? |
| Serry... 13.12.2004 17:50 |
We weren't at Garden Lodge at those days, you know, so you'd better ask Mr Freestone or find John (you'll receive an award in this case) and ask him! :) |
| Lara 14.12.2004 03:44 |
Good question runner, although everyone in here are gonna slam us for that cause it's not our business. (fuck them,dear) Only yesterday I talked over the phone with one of Freddie's friend and he said:"John wants to have nothing in common with Queen at all!". But in 1991 the point was slighly different, i guess.Probably John did not pay a visit at Logan during those last days because it was too painful for him.Apparently he stayed away from his dying.But I can imagine what a nightmare for John it was.I think for the same reason he keeps his mind away from what's going on with ""Queen"" now. No wonder for me as I got sick myself thinkig about any ridicolous tour that Mr Bossy Brian is planning. When did J&F meet for the last time I have no idea but now it must be some kind of magic in John's head when he recalls that. Now you can eat me you baggers!!! |
| Daburcor? 14.12.2004 04:18 |
Lara wrote: Now you can eat me you baggers!!!Nice to meet you too! |
| Melancholy Blues 14.12.2004 08:09 |
john's father died when he was quite young and he said that it had an enormous effect on him, so seeing freddie, who is said to have been a bit like a protective older brother slowly fade would have most likely been unbearable. he probably wanted to remember him the way he was before he got sick and not as the frail man he had become. |
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| Fenderek 14.12.2004 08:28 |
Philipp Nothaft wrote: For a man who's hardly spoken a word in public for a decade there seems to be a huge lot of people who seem to know his exact motivations behind all things he ever did, or maybe one should say: Did not. This is really intriguing.Good point!!! |
| Mr. Scully 14.12.2004 08:29 |
"John wants to have nothing in common with Queen at all" Except for money :-) Income from the new "Queen" activities is not bad, is it? :-) |
| Serry... 14.12.2004 09:56 |
Philipp Nothaft wrote: For a man who's hardly spoken a word in public for a decade there seems to be a huge lot of people who seem to know his exact motivations behind all things he ever did, or maybe one should say: Did not. This is really intriguing.Agree... |
| deleted user 14.12.2004 10:00 |
I also agree ... though I never stated: "John thinks ... blahblah" I think though he finally should speak and really tell us what he feels .... it would make all these discussions a lot easier |
| Serry... 14.12.2004 10:08 |
Lara wrote: Good question runner, although everyone in here are gonna slam us for that cause it's not our business. (fuck them,dear) Only yesterday I talked over the phone with one of Freddie's friend and he said:"John wants to have nothing in common with Queen at all!". But in 1991 the point was slighly different, i guess.Probably John did not pay a visit at Logan during those last days because it was too painful for him.Apparently he stayed away from his dying.But I can imagine what a nightmare for John it was.I think for the same reason he keeps his mind away from what's going on with ""Queen"" now. No wonder for me as I got sick myself thinkig about any ridicolous tour that Mr Bossy Brian is planning. When did J&F meet for the last time I have no idea but now it must be some kind of magic in John's head when he recalls that. Now you can eat me you baggers!!!That's why John played on Made In Heaven, No-One But You and went to Paris to play with Brian and Roger and Elton on Bejart's ballet premiere? And how about his letters to QFC - if he doesn't want to have something common with Queen at all? |
| Mr. Scully 15.12.2004 02:30 |
"And how about his letters to QFC - if he doesn't want to have something common with Queen at all?" Wasn't his last letter to QFC in 1999 or so? (I'm not a member so I'm not sure). |
| Lara 15.12.2004 05:08 |
It was just a quotation of what I was told the day before ... :( (I'm tired of this..) And yeah, you're right,folks!I How could I be so blind not to notice John's recently constance presence in public/show-biz life... I think it's become even more frequent ever since The WWRY musical was launched. :( ...1995, 1997, 1999... great score... ;( enjoy yourself. |
| Sebastian 15.12.2004 05:38 |
Anyway, I think John's and Freddie's goodbye, if there was any, belong to their privacy, and it's utterly indignant to start making speculations about that (or other personal stuff like "Fred loved Mary?", "why did Brian break up with Chrissy?", etc), let alone about their motivations or the way they think. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 15.12.2004 05:50 |
When exactly was Johns last letter for the FC?? And what did it say? I aint been a member since 96! |
| Serry... 15.12.2004 09:47 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: When exactly was Johns last letter for the FC?? And what did it say? I aint been a member since 96!I ain't since 2000 - and at 1999 there was letter from John - well, about nothing. And some at 1998 (even about the musical's plans!). About later - I don't know. |
| Serry... 15.12.2004 09:50 |
Lara wrote: It was just a quotation of what I was told the day before ... :( (I'm tired of this..) And yeah, you're right,folks!I How could I be so blind not to notice John's recently constance presence in public/show-biz life... I think it's become even more frequent ever since The WWRY musical was launched. :( ...1995, 1997, 1999... great score... ;( enjoy yourself.I just show you that John has something with Queen after Freddie's death! He could went to Hawaii and forget about Queen at 25th November 1991, but he didn't. And I don't know who is Freddie's friend you talked with and I don't know how Freddie's friends knows what thinks John! |
| jeff payne 1680 15.12.2004 15:00 |
Is this the same John who was hardly around for Innuendo recordings, kept going to the south of France which put the album back to after christmas 1991, not turning up for the final recordings when he said he would, didn't really want to do the tribute gig, claims to be a family man but is caught with a stripper!!! and no he only recieves royalties for his work i.e break free AOBTD, anything now i.e musical, tour unless he's involved the most he'll get is an invite |
| Serry... 15.12.2004 15:18 |
jeff payne wrote: Is this the same John who was hardly around for Innuendo recordings, kept going to the south of France which put the album back to after christmas 1991, not turning up for the final recordings when he said he would, didn't really want to do the tribute gig, claims to be a family man but is caught with a stripper!!! and no he only recieves royalties for his work i.e break free AOBTD, anything now i.e musical, tour unless he's involved the most he'll get is an inviteWell, jeff: who knows about the rest of the band? Maybe Roger or Fred was kept going to Bali and that's why The Works wasn't release at Xmas 1984? Who knows... Besides, John is the only one member of the band who plays on solo album of all Queen members - he played on Strange Frontier, Barcelona, Back To The Light, so I don't think we can blame him... |
| deleted user 15.12.2004 17:58 |
jeff payne wrote: Is this the same John who was hardly around for Innuendo recordings, kept going to the south of France which put the album back to after christmas 1991, not turning up for the final recordings when he said he would,Wow, this is interesting. I know he wasn't around that much during Innuendo-sessions, but I didn't know it was such a problem. Neither did I know that John didn't turn up for the MIH-recordings. Really interesting. What are your sources, jeff ? |
| electric.fire 13630 15.12.2004 19:04 |
Having no claim to have intimate knowledge of anything related to any of the band members personal lives and nopt wanting to have either I add this comment - I met Brian by chance in London some months ago [ ok at the rear door of the Dominion] and on askinh him about John he said "We dont see or hear much from John these days" However, at this years Convention in Wales there was a signed pic of John in the auction and it was dated 2004 so I would tend to suggest that he is still slightly interested but may not want to be part of a memory that can never be what it was before. Why dont we all stop snooping and surmising on peoples private lives. Thats all folks!!!!! |
| bassist08 15.12.2004 19:23 |
Yes, this is quite interesting indeed. I've heard this somewhere before however, I cannot remember where. I also agree that it's very unfortunate not to hear from John these days. If it wasn't for him I wouldn't be here. He inspired me to play bass myself and has been a great ispiration in other aspects of my life as well. I'd love to contact him. But then again I'm sure Satan wants a snowday too. |
| Sebastian 15.12.2004 23:02 |
In fact Brian had commented John & Roger started the Made In Heaven project without him (Brian). Perhaps John didn't write or play as much as in other albums but it doesn't mean he didn't work. Note also his amazing performance in Innuendo, including cracking basslines like the one in Slightly Mad. |
| Awesome-O _4000 15.12.2004 23:32 |
Not to sound cynical, but why do some of us have to harp on Mr. Brian May for trying to keep Queen alive? And, on the other side, why does John get crap for not being "involved" enough? Maybe they just know something we don't, eh? |
| mike hunt 16.12.2004 01:31 |
i noticed that, it's like a no win situation for the guys. |
| makavelli 16.12.2004 03:07 |
I cant blame JD at all. I mean he plays with a band for over 15 years and then when the lead singer passes away he said "Thats it". Apart from the odd concert here or there I don't blame him for continuing. |
| deleted user 16.12.2004 03:53 |
I think that Freddie's death have been really harmful for John. Maby he can't work with something related to Queen because that reminds him too much of Freddie. But I think we will never get the right answer. I dont blame him to just want pease but it would be nice to know if he would do somthing to us, the fans... you know, just a letter and tell us somthing we don't know. But I think we won't ever get to know that beacuse he will never tell us his secrets or about his privat life. :( And why do you don't like Brian to want to keep going.. maby he just can't retired and do nothing :) Maby he's to active to stop. If I had once been in a band I couldn't really stop :P |
| Queenman!! 16.12.2004 04:10 |
John is retired and earns money for doing nothing... good job.! Better than my position! Maybe he is hanging around with some female strippers. You never know.. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 16.12.2004 04:48 |
I remember a QFC mag from around 1994 in which Rogers letter stated that He and John were heavily involved in MIH and Brian had his own commitments and would start work on it when he felt ready, so I dont think Johns commitment can be questioned. Hes just retired now thats all. |
| Deacon_Fan 16.12.2004 14:24 |
Wow, i fail to see how this kind of thing is anyone's business. What happened between John and Freddie is between them and no one else. I highly doubt that John didnt show up for MIH recordings, I think thats bullshit. I wish people who speculate about what the band members were thinking, or what they did after Freddie died would just stop. It's none of your business. Get a life. |
| Vad 16.12.2004 15:46 |
John is a man in his fifties, have you ever though about that? He's no teenager anymore and maybe he doesn't want to go on bouncing around on stage. Simply as that. |
| trustno1 17.12.2004 05:07 |
I read an interview in which John said he 'went spare' during the recording of Innuendo because it was taking so long. Anyway, he nailed some great bass lines on that album and that's all that matters. |