Mr.Jingles 12.12.2004 22:55 |
OK, so Queen is touring with Paul Rodgers? Now excuse me if I sound ignorant, but who is Paul Rodgers? |
Lester Burnham 12.12.2004 23:08 |
Lead singer of Free and Bad Company. And a damn, fine, sexy looking man, if I do say so myself. ...what? |
The Real Wizard 13.12.2004 00:03 |
Lester Burnham wrote: ...what?Nothing, nothing.......... :D |
Fenderek 13.12.2004 09:06 |
chech "Fire And water" by Free- excellent album. The most famus track from there is obviously "All Right Now" but the whole LP is awesome... Other hits sang by him are "Feel Like Makin' Love" with Bad Comapny (remember South Park) or Wishing Well... |
Negative Creep 13.12.2004 09:16 |
A hasbeen rock singer in other words. |
The Mir@cle 13.12.2004 09:56 |
"A hasbeen rock singer in other words" A hasbecome even bigger rock singer in the near future. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 10:03 |
Paul Rodgers will be buried by Freddie's shadow even 13 years after his death. |
The Mir@cle 13.12.2004 10:08 |
You've posted 75 negative posts here on this board Peter... Can you enjoy living??? Or are you a black viewer. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 10:44 |
Oh, some of my postings are very positive ... for example, I defended the "Flash Gordon"-album and "The Works" against the usual negative postings from some others (like the "Fairy King" on FG) ... I am only a little angry because nobody seems to get it, that Queen and its music have become a toy in Rogers and Brians hands. If they use it in a positive way, fine .... but during the last years it's getting worse. Maybe a live tour without trash artists like Britney would be something different, but its not sounding a bit like Queen when Paul Rodgers performs WATC or Radio Ga Ga. |
brENsKi 13.12.2004 12:17 |
i love highway song |
Mr.Jingles 13.12.2004 12:22 |
I know Bad Company, and although I think that Paul Rodgers might make some respectable renditions of Queen songs like 'Tie Your Mother Down' and 'Hammer To Fall', I still think he's going to have an awful hard time fitting on Freddie's shoes, especially when it comes to singing a lot of other songs from the Queen catalog. I mean, George Michael was perhaps the only possible decent choice if it ever came to Queen touring again with someone. Paul Rodgers just doesn't seem work for me, but I might give it a listen if I have the chance. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 13:18 |
Does he have an overall commanding presence? I don't want to watch somebody with a good voice but just stand around and make like a tree. |
brENsKi 13.12.2004 14:30 |
Didn't he do the quiz-gameshow 3-2-1 ??? |
jeff payne 1680 13.12.2004 14:35 |
Nah that was Ted(dustybin)Rogers R.I.P |
Rich Tea 13.12.2004 15:35 |
Jesus I hope Paul Rodgers sings the queen songs using his own brilliant style I'm sure Brian & Roger are clever enough to adapt as well! If they wanted a Freddie clone they would have got that bloke from Stars in Their eyes!!! Whoever will unfortunatly be compared to Freddie I realise that is inevitable but still think its very sad. paul Rodgers was a major influence on Freddie in the early days so maybe we will get some more early stuff who knows!bet he would do a brilliant Innuendo as well!!!!! |
rhapsody__87 13.12.2004 16:10 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I mean, George Michael was perhaps the only possible decent choice if it ever came to Queen touring again with someone. Paul Rodgers just doesn't seem work for me, but I might give it a listen if I have the chance.Oh, yeah! If it were George touring with Brian and Roger... I'd go see that. His name would probably attract more people than Paul Rodgers. |
Liquid Scream 13.12.2004 16:27 |
They'll definately rock a hell of a lot harder with Rodgers than with George Michael. Rodgers easily has one of the best hard rock voices ever and I think they will stick to that genre on the tour. Not to mention I think Paul is a little more respectable in the music world than a guy caught in a public washroom....well I think you know where that's going. This isn't a full on Queen tour, we will get to hear some Free and Bad Company which I'll take over "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" any freaking day. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 16:35 |
That's the other legend about Queen: The first is 1) Queen can continue without Freddie 2) the second is: Queen was a hardrock band - it wasn't, they just tried to incorporate every style (and usually only Brian May was interested really in hardrock stuff). And I don´t see why a no-name like Paul Rodgers (Im sure most people haven't even heard about his band or his songs) should be better than George Michael, at least he his a worlwide known pop star (something Paul Rodgers never will achieve).... by the way I like ROCK and POP Music. |
yamamamia 13.12.2004 16:45 |
Goddammit!! I can't believe this "Radioactive" dude is gonna be it for awhile. I used to dig his pipes back in the day, but I'm thinking, now?? I'd rather hear Liza f'ing Minnelli. Well, maybe not. Did anybody hate "The FIRM" as much as I did back in the 80's? Hey, does this guy even play the piano? Or are they gonna do that fifth beatle thing. Please somebody with sense call that guy from Queen For A Day to do the vocal trip for a bit or two with Brian and Roger. It might just be more convincing. All right now!!! |
Penetration_Guru 13.12.2004 17:32 |
Paul Rodgers = "No-name"? Better known than Peter Cetera, I'd venture to suggest. Also, as Queen fans, did none of you wonder who that bloke on the Smoke On The Water sleeve was? Or for whom Brian was playing on the Muddy Waters album? Or who was singing All Right Now (obscure track that THAT fucking is) at the end of the Guitar Expo show back in 1991? Honestly, some of you people make Americans look worldly... |
Lester Burnham 13.12.2004 17:51 |
I knew of Paul Rodgers before I knew of Queen. For some of you complaining about Paul Rodgers, listen to some fucking Free and Bad Company. And then listen to some live Queen - not studio albums, but live albums. Queen were essentially a rock band live, and that's what we're talking about here: the resurrection of Queen as a live band. There's a reason that songs like 'Nevermore', 'Lily Of The Valley', 'Jealousy', 'Leaving Home Ain't Easy', etc weren't in the set list, because they would have bored the fuck out of people. Honestly, people have nothing better do than bitch about situations they have no control about. Queen have no one to please anymore but themselves, so if they want to have some fun and allow their fans the opportunity to share in that fun, then that's respectable enough. Morals are morals, but this is just fucking rock and roll. |
Serry... 13.12.2004 17:52 |
Paul Rodgers is good singer and it's really sad that some people doesn't know him... Oh yeah - and he's Freddie's friend as Brian said, though I'm not sure that if Freddie loved his works that means that they knew each other and were friends! |
ana 13.12.2004 17:53 |
i don't know who paul rodgers is.I just wanna say i don't like the idea of somone else singing queen songs.i can understand Roger and Brian miss being on tour, for a musician touring is part of their lives, but they have to understand that there cannot be another frontman in queen,nobody can be in Freddie's place.i have wonder all these years why Roger and Brian cannot sing ? I would prefer them singing (for better or worst)rather than a "stranger"! ana. |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 17:56 |
listen, if you want to live in the past(i agree is a great place) then live in the past, but i think they have a chance to make some interesting things happen, and possibly help the queen legacy grow, but it could also turn stale like recently what happened to the doors. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 17:59 |
We are not talking about Peter Cetera and Chicago (although they sold more records in the US than Queen - were is your fucking Rodgers on this list?)- I have just said that George Michael and 50%-Queen are way better than this Paul Rodgers-dude (EVERYONE knows Michael and he has a better voice) and even live, Queen wasn't just a hard rock band - watch Freddie at Earls Court or even at Wembley (Paul Rodgers only can keep up with Tie Your Mother Down - then he is finished) |
redyfredy01 13.12.2004 18:01 |
FINALLY!!! Someone told me who Paul Rodgers is. |
Serry... 13.12.2004 18:04 |
Mike, aren't Brian and Roger living in the past and using the name of the band which doesn't exists for 13 years? |
deleted user 13.12.2004 18:07 |
AGREED, Serry Funster |
Lester Burnham 13.12.2004 18:09 |
<b><font color="red">Peter Cetera</b> wrote: We are not talking about Peter Cetera and Chicago (although they sold more records in the US than Queen - were is your fucking Rodgers on this list?)- I have just said that George Michael and 50%-Queen are way better than this Paul Rodgers-dude (EVERYONE knows Michael and he has a better voice) and even live, Queen wasn't just a hard rock band - watch Freddie at Earls Court or even at Wembley (Paul Rodgers only can keep up with Tie Your Mother Down - then he is finished)I get the feeling your parents made you listen to shitty music as a child, hence your username. Regardless, you've made it quite clear that not only do you have no intent to see the band, but that you seem to have a personal vendetta against Mr. Rodgers. As you so kindly neglected to argue, what the band are doing is just rock and roll, not trying to change the world. I'm sure Brian and Roger are sitting on their computers reading the numerous topics about Paul Rodgers, and saying to themselves, "Shit, maybe they're right. Why would we want to play with a guy we obviously have some sort of chemistry with, a guy who we both respect and like as a musician and person, whereas the fans want us to sing with George Michael." Honestly, get a clue here, people - Brian and Roger are doing this because they want to. It is partly their music, and I'm certain they're not doing it out of disrespect for Freddie or John. They want to have a bit of fun, and I'm sure Brian and Roger aren't particularly interested in fronting a band themselves, hence the lack of solo tours. Christ, if we have to listen to this for 4 1/2 more months, I'll gladly crawl under a rock until the bitching has stopped. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 18:22 |
Bring forth your arguments, but don't get personal - HeM Gordon already tried that and failed. What everybody listens to is only his or her own affair. Certainly some Queen-fans may call most of your musical taste "shit". Since I am a Queen fan for thirteen years my musical taste can't be so bad.... and if Brian and Roger are so convinced they ARE Queen, they should sing the songs themselves (then I would probably even go to see them ... since it would be like a Taylor/May-double-solo-concert) |
NOTWMEDDLE 13.12.2004 18:23 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I know Bad Company, and although I think that Paul Rodgers might make some respectable renditions of Queen songs like 'Tie Your Mother Down' and 'Hammer To Fall', I still think he's going to have an awful hard time fitting on Freddie's shoes, especially when it comes to singing a lot of other songs from the Queen catalog. I mean, George Michael was perhaps the only possible decent choice if it ever came to Queen touring again with someone. Paul Rodgers just doesn't seem work for me, but I might give it a listen if I have the chance.The Hell with George Michael I wanted either Paul Rodgers or Rob Halford. |
Want To Live Forever 13.12.2004 18:28 |
it doesn't matter if we don't know who he was... altough he's not replacing Freddie, ALL the world is going to be looking to him and listening to him. the matter is who he is going to be after the tour. (very, very famous) |
Lester Burnham 13.12.2004 18:37 |
Yes, I'm sure you're the master of wits yourself, but I think you need to take into consideration other peoples' opinions and that yours is not only the right one. You can't please everyone, and you already said under what circumstances you would see the band. If I could, I would see them, but they're coming nowhere near America so far. I think it's an exciting prospect to see how they handle this, but I understand that people aren't convinced. Normally, I'm not very up to date on bands like Chicago, but aren't they missing a few members too with replacements? I'm not sure if the lead singer is still there or not, and frankly, it doesn't matter to me - but it's the same with Genesis, of which I'm a fan. Peter Gabriel left in '74, and people thought Phil Collins couldn't handle the lead vocal role. Turns out they were wrong. I don't understand why people aren't willing to give Paul Rodgers a chance, though. It would be different if you'd heard of him, and I don't recall you saying whether you have or not, but I frankly think Rodgers is a better choice than George Michael or Elton John or Robbie Williams. It gives Queen a chance to try something new. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 19:00 |
fully agreed ... Queen was a hard rock band too (besides being a glam rock, stadium rock and pop band - heck, even disco and funk!!) - that is what Queen makes unique ... and here lies the problem: Brian May wants only to play the hard rockers because he thinks it suits Paul Rodgers and Rodgers hasn't really a great voice (I doubt if BoRap would sound better with him). |
Mr.Jingles 13.12.2004 19:00 |
OK, I gave Paul Rodgers a try after going to link and downloading the performance at the UK Hall Of Fame. IMO, the guy did an acceptable and decent job as a singer. Of course the first thing that comes to mind are the comparisons with Freddie Mercury, and why we feel like it's so hard (not only for Paul Rodgers) but just about every single great singer on earth to fit Freddie's shoes. The way Queen fans feel about seeing Brian and Roger with a new singer would be the same as seeing your father dating other women after your mother has been dead for over 10 years (weird analogy, I know). At first it might be hard to accept it, but eventually we might realize that someone perhaps deserves that small shot. Of course no one will ever replace Freddie, and we all know that. But for the sake of those old days that were once and will never be again, it's good to have a small dose of Queen live once again. The way I see it is that Brian and Roger certainly miss the feeling of seeing people packing football stadiums and cheering them. Imagine not having sex for almost 20 years (another weird analogy), but to me Brian and Roger have a huge craving for connecting themselves to their fans once again, and have thousands of people singing along to their songs at least for once single moment. Also I feel like another great reason why they're probably going on tour again is because ever since Freddie's death their fanbase has increased to a point where it has either doubled or even tripled. Many of the new fans were not even born when Queen stopped touring or weren't even born when Freddie died. So my guess that they're doing it all for those young kids who feel like the music of the past decade doesn't fit their taste. I mean, just look at all the people on this board. I'd say 2 out of 3 never heard a Queen song on the radio at the time a new album was released. In the end it doesn't surprise me all the bitching about Paul Rodgers when many of these "fans" say that Queen did mostly shit during the 80s. Although I think it might be more appropiate to call themselves, Brian May, Roger Taylor, and Paul Rodgers instead of Queen and Paul Rodgers. Of course, the second one catches a lot more attention, but the first one feels like it's right since it's just 50% Queen. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 19:09 |
Oh no, QUEEN were wonderful during the 80s - the 70s were their experimental (glam rock) phase and the 80s were their mature (pop) phase - I like both decades Why do some fans always trash their 80s output??? |
Penetration_Guru 13.12.2004 19:21 |
Who are you (trashing the 00's before they've even started) to talk? |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 19:23 |
hey peter we agree on something, we both like 80's queen, not sure who said it (to lazy to look) that arn't queen living in the past by playing old songs, yes, that's why there writing new tunes, i believe anyway that there writing new tunes. paul isn't in queen he's working with queen, like, bowie, and michael did. there's nothing wrong with that, and it's better than working with robbie williams, paul is from the same era, and please don't say brian should sing live, he's horrible at singing live, makes me cring hearing him sing wwry, roger taylor is not so bad. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 19:35 |
partly agreed, mike To Penetration Guru .... Queen released six albums in the 80s (beginning with The Game) and had hit singles to cover an entire Greatest Hits 2 record (puls worlwide hits with Radio Ga Ga, AKOM, I want to Break Free, AOBTD, ...) ... I can't thrash anything in the 00s because there is nothing there, its that simple (do you really think they will have another NEW single hit, even if the concerts sell out?) |
Lester Burnham 13.12.2004 19:40 |
At this stage in their career, I doubt they really care about hit records. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 20:20 |
I think that is a problem that is truly solved.... all encyclopedias about the 1980s list 1980 as the first year, and its logical since the decade is called "THE 80S". I think its correct ... take a look at this article from Wikipedia. 1989 is the last year so its exactly a ten year period. link also The Game sounds really like an early 80s album (the beginning of a new era for Queen |
Liquid Scream 13.12.2004 20:57 |
I don't know if this solves anything but half of The Game was recorded in the 70's. |
deleted user 13.12.2004 21:03 |
okay we can agree on that, four songs of The Game were recorded in 1979 (according to the CD- booklet) but the album was released in 1980s. |
Melancholy Blues 13.12.2004 21:22 |
paul rodgers: a has been that never really was |
Trisonic77 14.12.2004 00:20 |
Are you fucking serious? .... Paul Rogers was huge, at least in America. In the 70's "Bad Company" was a huge success, as was "The Firm" in the 80's. If Queen were thinking of touring the states I couldn't think of a more respected front man accept for Steven Tyler or maybe Robert Plant. |
Penetration_Guru 14.12.2004 03:48 |
Nice distraction, but nothing gets away from the fact that you're trashing this tour before it even starts. |
Richard Orchard 14.12.2004 04:03 |
Isn't Paul Rodgers a bit of a "nobody" compared to the giant of Queen? I went to his website and said that he had been party to XX million records sold, but where are these records. Yep, i have heard "All Right Now". I may have heard of Bad Company, but can i name many of their songs. Now with Queen - they are more household names. People can just rattle of the songs they have released, etc? |
Hank H. 14.12.2004 04:29 |
Maybe it turns out that Rodgers can do things with his voice Freddie couldn't? Of course, no-one would admit it. I didn't know him before the HOF, but now I like the freshness and lightheartedness he seems to have (despite his age). Brian and Roger IMO desperately need someone with new viewpoints, new ideas, new energy, new challenges, not only commercial interests like all the other crap collaborations, someone who helps them to get out of their routine. Give them a chance and judge afterwards. |
YourValentine 14.12.2004 06:47 |
Great post, Hank. |
Liquid Scream 14.12.2004 12:13 |
I still can't get over how many people don't know who Paul Rodgers is???? I read on Allmusic.com that he has sold over 125 million albums worldwide with his various bands! Try Bad Company's first album, it is nothing short of amazing. Listen to that and tell me Rodgers has a crap voice. Hank H. made the perfect point about adding freshness to Brian and Roger. I like this whole thing because none of us saw it coming, everyone was hoping for all these other guys to front Queeen and then they pull this out of the hat! I think a lot of you doubters are going to be pretty surprised how good this turns out when they take this on the road! |
deleted user 14.12.2004 13:57 |
Oh no Paul Rodgers isnt the one that ruined WWRY on that thing where Queen won the 80's period? The man tried to sing it for gods sake. But I agree with whoever said George Michael would be good - he was brilliant on the tribute concert! |
Fenderek 14.12.2004 14:39 |
You know what...? Just litened to those Hall of fame tracks again and... IMO he sang WATC better than Freddie... Differently, but also he was hitting the right notes and wasn't going to lower register... And those ad libs... Sorry guys... That's just MHO... *Jehowa, Jehowa* PS To all dickheads who could understand it wrong- I'm talking about THIS TRACK ONLY, not the whole Queen catalogue. I'm not even saying that I prefer Rodgers' vice to Mercury's. Just this one particular track sounds better for me... *now, the whistle...* |
brian_may_wannabe 14.12.2004 15:30 |
Never heard of him. |
teddybear 14.12.2004 16:15 |
Yep - I had never heard of him before either, before I saw the HOF gig - so maybe he or his group were not that big in Australia (I don't know). Has anyone noticed how some music sites have picked up on the story and reporting it as "Paul Rodgers is REPLACING Freddie Mercury"????? Damn - so much for the Queen + Paul Rogers .............that is not how the general public will see it. They will see it as Freddie being replaced !! (so much for Brians vow never to do so........) |
markaw 14.12.2004 16:18 |
wow I've just gone through these posts. Have to say that Paul Rogers magnificent voice-soft melodic stuff listen to Be my Friend/Mourning Sad Morning. Harder stuff The Hunter/Mr Big all Free. Bad Co 1st album and Straight Shooter the track Shooting Star...the guy has emotion can sing a song. Course he aint gonna replace Freddie stupid comment that. But Roger and Brian are the two that give the rock 'n roll edge and with a bit of blues hey I'd go and see em. My only reservation is the Queen moniker-but wots in a name. My fave album is II, Paul doing some of that Pomp stuff-hardly but I could hear him doin a Father to Son or White Queen..refer back to first few lines of this post. And as an older person Bands like Free and Bad Co didn't need to have a hit every 5 mins, they built up fan bases oh Led Zepp another good example of this, by touring, LPs (as they were then)were bought and listened to, buy ticket see band HAPPY. Me I'll see em. Thank you |
Libor2 14.12.2004 19:10 |
I listen to Hall of fame performance and I have to say I enjoyed it a lot. Maybe Brian, Roger with Paul Rotgers could go back where they started - to their (hard) rock roots. I'd be happy with that as I don't like Queen's stuff from first half of 80's too much. Maybe it was huge success, but it wasn't Queen I started listening. And if they do good music, I don't mind if it's under 'Queen', 'Free' or 'Free Queen' label. |
Spud 14.12.2004 19:31 |
teddybear wrote: Yep - I had never heard of him before either, before I saw the HOF gig - so maybe he or his group were not that big in Australia (I don't know). Has anyone noticed how some music sites have picked up on the story and reporting it as "Paul Rodgers is REPLACING Freddie Mercury"????? Damn - so much for the Queen + Paul Rogers .............that is not how the general public will see it. They will see it as Freddie being replaced !! (so much for Brians vow never to do so........)Not seen that anywhere, could you direct me to the music sites that say that? (other than QZ)... |
mrjordy 14.12.2004 20:03 |
LONG, INTROSPECTIVE POST, BUT WORTH READING Ok, boys and girls. I think - I know that the majority of us will never see anyone other than Freddie Mercury as the lead singer of Queen, simply because that is the fact of the matter. Freddie was and is the lead singer of Queen. Unfortunately, Freddie's life was cut way too short and we were left with Brian, Roger and John to carry on the Queen flag. John decided not to. A few years go by, Queen in its present day is Roger and Brian, who happen to have a hit musical out. Roger and Brian go to the openings of WWRY, see their songs being cheered on by packed houses and start to miss playing those songs themselves. Hall Of Fame comes up. Someone has to sing. Paul Rodgers doesn't fill Freddie's shoes or replace Freddie, he just stands in for the lead singer who couldn't make it. It worked out. Paul wasn't terrible. He sang quite nicely, I think. Paul's no Freddie. Paul never will be, nor will anyone else. I think maybe the closest we get to Freddie is in ourselves - when we're watching Queen: Live At Wembly 86, perhaps, and catch ourselves prancing around our bedroom with a broom handle, singing the absolute hell out of some Queen songs - perhaps just like Freddie. Maybe Paul Rodgers feels the same way. When the tour begins and Paul proves that he's either worthy of "filling in" for Freddie or not, let us judge then. This has been said by others, of course, in other words. I am a 24 year old guy who never had the chance to see Queen live until September of this year - with no Freddie. I think and have always thought that Freddie made Queen. Freddie was and is Queen. On the night of the Las Vegas premiere, I attended the after-party concert. It was strange, sitting there listening to those songs, hearing others sing Freddie's words. Let me assure you - hearing Brian and Roger play together almost drowned out that strange feeling. Freddie's in that music. You can't help but hear him. He's everywhere when you hear the boys play live in this day. To those of you who can, go see Queen + Paul Rodgers or whatever the hell you want to call the lineup. Don't just imagine Freddie being there, enjoy the music. Enjoy it for what it is now. For those of us who were too young to see Queen live when Freddie was alive, here is our chance. We are missing out on seeing, of course, the biggest rock legend that ever was - but we have the chance to see his backup band. We have the chance to see the people who put together some of the songs Freddie sang - the people who played those songs. Don't shit on Paul before giving him a go. To those of you who won't have the chance to go or are contemplating, check out my story and pictures of the September Queen show at link If you've read all of this, thanks. |
Spud 14.12.2004 20:07 |
MrJordy, very well put. |
teddybear 14.12.2004 21:17 |
For the person that asked: Not seen that anywhere, could you direct me to the music sites that say that? (other than QZ)... Here is what NME Music News has to say: DON'T STOP THEM NOW! Rock legends QUEEN are to reform for a tour next year - with Seventies rocker PAUL RODGERS replacing deceased legend FREDDIE MERCURY on vocals. Queen guitarist Brian May confirmed the news in a posting on his official website brianmay.com. A UK tour will definitely go ahead, with the possibility of a European leg and a world tour under discussion. The tour will feature material by both Queen and Rodgers, one-time vocalist with both Free and Bad Company. The statement on May's website reads: "It really all came about because of the Fender 50th Anniversary gig that I did with Paul Rodgers. We were both so amazed at the chemistry that was going on in 'All Right Now', that suddenly it seems blindingly obvious that there was something happening here." While Queen's drummer Roger Taylor is definitely taking part, there is no news on whether bass player John Deacon will get involved. Queen stopped touring in 1986, after frontman Mercury fell ill. He died of an AIDS-related illness in 1991. |
Fenderek 15.12.2004 04:17 |
mrjordy- very nice post! |
Fenderek 15.12.2004 08:30 |
You're an idiot. They're talking about in every single radio station in England- it's one of the hottest news. there is a public demand whether you like it or not... All those ppl whop own only Greatest Hits and few albums maybe- they'll go, just like they pack Dominion Theatre every night... |
The Mir@cle 15.12.2004 08:57 |
I'm not a racist, but I wanna shoot this nigger. Another R&B nerd I think :-) |
andymezza_uk 15.12.2004 09:23 |
Well I've got to be the luckiest bloke in the world because my two favourite bands are Bad Company and Queen. I've seen them both live and feel that some of you Queen fans are doing Paul Rodgers an extreme injustice. I've read some of you write things like "who is he anyway? He's crap". Well if you've never heard of him how can you say he's crap. The facts lie in that Roger and Brian always refused to tour without Freddie because there was nobody to replace him, a fact which I agree with! But can we really question there judgement on this, Paul Rodgers is one of the most respected artists amongst the artists themselves. Slash (guns n roses) begged them to allow him to join them onstage to do wishing well on their last tour. Finally I hope all of you that are disgruntled by the news don't go to the concerts, meaning that I'm guaranteed to get my tickets. |
Fenderek 15.12.2004 09:48 |
Paul Rodgers was supposed to replace Ian Gillan in Deep Purple back in seventies but refused- he was Richie Blackmore's first choice! As a resul-0 they hired David Coverdale... And ppl are saying he's crap... And that george Michael or robbie would be better... geeez.. |
Judy Cain 15.12.2004 10:19 |
Honey Paul Rodgers is "The Voice Of Rock" front man for Free - Bad Compant- The Law- The Firm. he has over 25 million recordings, still holds one of the most played hits on radio ""huh does All Right Now ring any bells? Feel Like Makin Love? Shooting Star? Rock and Roll Fantasy? Rock Steady? Runnin With The Pack? Bad Company? Cant get enough? and thats just a scant few. Paul is without a doubt the greatest all around artist of our time, lets give him his Props ok. |
Judy Cain 15.12.2004 10:42 |
Oh And too the person that ask if Paul can play the Piano yes he does as well as guitar, drums, bass, and pretty much anything he picks up. he also writes most of his music. And I don't think Paul wants to replace Freddie M.... He does not walk in anyones shadow, he cast his own. And yes he can sing anything, and it will be good, his voice is amazing the range he has is unmatched. Now I liked Queen and I liked Freddie, but lets tell the story ok, Paul Rodgers is not Joining the band, he is not looking to be their front man, he is touring with them, big diff. And they are Damn lucky to get him. I have seen Queen live back in the day, and I have been lucky enough to have seen Free, And Bad Company mant times, Paul Rodgers is one of the few that have remained true to his roots true to his music, and true to the fans. and yes he still flat out kicks ass on stage, just go see him you will be blown away. Trust Pauls music will be around as long as there is music, |
The Mir@cle 15.12.2004 10:44 |
We have some negative people here on Queenzone... they would burn off everyone person who tries to stand in Freddie's shoes...I don’t think they have something personal against Paul. By the way, most of us love Bri and Roger play with Paul. It's funny how the news spreads like a fire... A lot new people here, some of them are Paul Rodger fans. |
deleted user 15.12.2004 11:29 |
The best singer I've seen singing Queen's songs after Freddie's death is Gary Cherone. (The guy from Extreme) He's as much an entertainer as Freddie was... almost. And his voice is great too! I think they should have him as the singer on this tour. |
krockyevans 15.12.2004 12:00 |
Anyone who hasn't heard of Paul Rodgers should consider themselves badly informed of the all-time greats! He is just about the best voice in the business, and is also one of the best front men. The decision to tour with Paul is probably the best choice made. |
markaw 15.12.2004 15:46 |
_THE_TOWN_NIGGER_ wrote: Nobody gives a shit about Queen touring this summer. "The whole world" will not be watching them tour. You guys are bunch of idiots. Freddie Mercury is dead and Queen's time has also past.You prat!! Nobody gives a shit eh...still selling cds by the score WWRY doing rather well thank you-wait for them dates and watch the tickets go. As for being a pervert cos I happen to have grown up listening and watching Queen from the early seventies-Freddie is a god to a lot of people their choice- to me he was a first class musician and showman who gave and still gives pleasure every time I stick a cd on. Still you'll grow up one day darling! |
Serry... 15.12.2004 16:09 |
On 'Back To The Light' album there's Paul Rodgers name in 'my special thanks to' section! |
teddybear 15.12.2004 16:15 |
Judy Cain listed these songs: All Right Now ring any bells? Feel Like Makin Love? Shooting Star? Rock and Roll Fantasy? Rock Steady? Runnin With The Pack? Bad Company? Cant get enough? Well I have to admit, I have not heard of any of them !!! Was this band popular in Australia? I saw the photo of Paul on Brians site, he looks pretty old ?? |
brENsKi 15.12.2004 16:18 |
Judy Cain wrote: Honey Paul Rodgers is "The Voice Of Rock" front man for Free - Bad Compant- The Law- The Firm. he has over 25 million recordings, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ...fekkin hell he's been busy!!!! no private life then? my best guess is that even if each recording was only 4minutes long and it only took an hour to record that makes 416,666 days in the studio to make 25 million recordings...so if he started recording at 20 years old that makes the fekker 1161 years old....jeez he looks good for his age!!! |
adge1956 15.12.2004 18:04 |
I saw Queen in November 1973 as support to Mott the Hoople at the Manchester Opera House [neat name for a venue given what transpired]- I was a fan of Mott yet attended to check out Queen a new band on the scene and was suitably blown away - as a support act they were awesome. However the primary mover that generated my interst in RNR as a kid was a band named Free - lead vocalist Paul Rodgers - and thirty years later I have to say the idea of Rodgers, May and Taylor getting together gets the old goose bumps going - personally I would prefer they ditch the respective back catalogues and tour presenting new numbers - alienating fans from both camps but engaging the interest of those who dig rock and blues - this is where the 'biz' and 'financial worth' creep in - would they dare to do that? In 2005 I'll hopefully catch Ian Hunter [Mott the Hooples front man]when he tours the UK and hopefully in the US as a part of a 500 strong audience at some theatres - there was a whole 1200 approx at the Manchester Opera House back in 1973 - sometimes music is about more than just the numbers. |
teddybear 15.12.2004 18:10 |
I too think it would work if they did not do many Queen or Free songs, but did all new material - as then no-one would be comparing Pauls versions (or singing) to Freddies - and it would be cool to have all new material !! (maybe just a Queen song and Free song for nostalgia sake - if Brian or Rog do the vocals on the Queen tracks). Then it would please everyone as we all ache to hear new material. |
andymezza_uk 15.12.2004 18:46 |
Come on Teddy Bear! Never heard of "all right now"? Its on pretty much every classic rock compilation CD. I reckon you will have heard "Can't get enough" as well. They are the type of songs that people usually say to me "Oh yeah that one I didn't realise they sang it". To be honest I think it is a shame that a lot of people are damning the whole affair before its even off the ground. How people can honestly sit there and say George Michael etc etc would be better astounds me. Surely its better if they choose who they are going to be with, after all it is them that will be living in each others pockets for six months when they're out on the road. They obviously get on well so "good on em" is all I can say. So everyone give them a chance I can guarantee it will be fantastic, they've never let me down before. |
electric.fire 13630 15.12.2004 19:09 |
Why do people think he is following in Freddies shoes - he is not doing that as this is not queen - it is a tour by 2 people who used to be in queen and a singer from another band. All they want to do is play music -c their own music. Live and let live. Who cares if it is called queen or Pau Rodgers or any other fucking name for that matter. Perosnally I will go and see it regardless. time a lot of the people on here got a life and realised that they are talking crap |
teddybear 15.12.2004 19:43 |
Electic Fire...everyone is entitled to their opinion, just as you expressed yours. That is the point of forums. We will not ever all possibly agree on everything, as that is not possible, but it is always interesting to read how people feel about things, even if it is not how YOU feel personally. Need to show abit more tolerance I think ? |
Trisonic77 15.12.2004 21:39 |
link Listen to this and tell me he don't tear the roof off, I dare you! |
jericho05 15.12.2004 21:51 |
Paul Rodgers is one of the best rock vocalists of all time period. He may not have a hit in the last 15 years but neither has Queen. This collaboration may be very interesting indeed. And I'll repeat that it sounds like a much better fit than that pussy George Michael. As someone said earlier I would much rather hear Shooting Star than Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go! |
Judy Cain 15.12.2004 22:11 |
the thing about the 25 million was recording sold not recording made, I had a blond moment |
The Mir@cle 16.12.2004 02:49 |
They have to sing Queens and Rodgers material... the tour will start in Spring, no time to make new material for a whole concert. |
adge1956 16.12.2004 12:08 |
Or as they could put a set together based on a little Queen and a little Free / Bad Co plus a little of May - Taylor - Rodgers solo stuff - plus some new tracks. I'm just trying to get the show to last over three hours.... |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:45 |
FREE Paul Rodgers-* vocals, guitar, songwriter, Dec17, 1949 Middlesbrough, Cleveland England. Simon Kirke- *drums, July 28, 1949 London England Paul Kossoff- guitar, Sept 14, 1950 Hampstead, London England, Died March 19, 1976 Andy Fraser- bass, Aug 7, 1952, London England Formed May of 1968 London England, then 17 year old Kossoff had been playing in a blues band known as Black Cat Bones. scouted 18 year old Paul Rodgers who was with a band known as Brown Sugar. Paul Rodgers recalls “Koss came to the Nag’s Head to jam with me, we hit it off well right from the start, Rodgers still holds memories of Koss near and dear to his heart, I still feel the loss of a soul mate, and musical combination that has as yet been matched. Koss ask me to join his band, but I was not interested in joining yet another band, Koss had said there was another player in line for the hire, at that point I simply told Koss he should hire the other man, my interest was in forming a band that was ready to go professional, I no longer wanted to do week end gigs, I said that I would love to play with him but only as a band that was ready to get serious. A couple of days later Koss came round again, and the deal was struck” Kossoffs best bud and band mate 18 year old Simon Kirke was In tow, then 15 year old Andy Fraser came next who had just felt the boot from Mayall‘s Bluesbreakers. Between 68 & 69 Free released a couple of albums that went unnoticed they became the opening act for Blind Faith, and began their first tour in 69 moving across the pond to the States. Their first gig was Madison Sq Gardens. Free turned down a spot at Woodstock, according to Paul we were not at that point ready for that venue. Hey, so it took a minute longer to achieve fame guy’s, look at the ones that played Woodstock that are now forgotten. Paul Rodgers say’s “no regrets, I did play Woodstock in 84, and as a bonus was able to talk Andy into joining me, this gig cut it a bit close as the roster was full, promoters did make room on their stage for us somehow” he say’s rather modestly, as if somehow surprised they made room, yeah right, they were going to turn him down, that will happen when little pigs grow wings and fly. It was not until they released Fire & Water that things began to take shape for them with their classic hit All Right Now. Free from its humble inception had all the markings of greatness, one consequence was the maturity of the members. The other, they could not stave off the pitfalls of to much to soon and no one really watching over to protect them. Ego’s emerged as did the fatal demon, indulgence in substance abuse. Free did not use glitz and glimmer they did not need it, they had talent, this set them apart from all the flash and subterfuge. Lets face it all the glitz in the world can not hide limited talent. Heavy blues and American R&B simple and so pure was their sound that even today it is as sweet as anything being released, this music simply does not go away, never grows old no matter how much you play it you will find it among your most cherished in your music library. These artist could never have guessed they were creating the stuff of legends, that in their youthful dreams and innocence they had hoped for fame and stardom, and somehow managed to exceed those dreams. The music machine has let this beautiful band down, They have never to my belief, received the acknowledgment due them and frankly that is sad, at this point, I suppose they never will. but the fans and the artist that would follow their lead have held them close and valued what they gave us. I consider myself one of the extremely lucky, I did see this group perform they had not yet achieved fame, were still struggling, reaching for the stars, I saw them as a warm up band for geeze I think Dr Hook and the medicine show, I do rememb |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:46 |
I can not say why it is that often those that seem most brilliant, find it harder to exist in this world. Within months of their success in 1971, Kossoff was out of control, often absent from the line-up, when he did attend he was unable to manage the one gift he had been given, to make beautiful music. In some way’s, it was as if he wanted to perhaps slow things down, afraid that with fame, came a price tag he did not wish to pay. I believe he never felt he could keep up, he had talent, but he did not have faith in his self. Kossoff’s disabilities led the band to split in 71, reforming in 72 bringing in replacement players. This was most likely a stake through his heart, he had formed this group, chosen each member, he did however, I believe, understand why they had to do it, but, in the understanding, he saw his weakness. I do not think this was easy for the other members, they wanted their friend well and beside them. Kossoff’s drug use proved to much to rise above, they made a great effort but, could not conquer the problems centered at their very hub. had Kossoff been able to follow his heart, not live trying to meet the imagined expectations he perceived others had of him, had he been able to find a place of peace within his shattered psyche, he could have realized so many of his dreams. I get the sense Kossoff wanted more than anything the respect and brotherhood of Rodgers, in my heart of hearts I think he loved him as one loves family, connected with him on a level as a rule one rarely finds. In his shattered state, he could not see Rodgers did respect him, Rodgers say’s “Koss was a shy gentle soul, fragile in it’s existence, that just wanted to make beautiful music, Koss always wanted what was best for the band” I too believe Koss lived and breathed for his music and his love for his band and it’s members I think it broke his heart knowing he could not overcome his addiction, and because of it he knew it would at some point consume him entirely, it had robbed him of the sweetness of life the joy of his music, and was placing bridges between him and those he most loved. In his fragile state this gentle soul could not climb out of the box he had erected around him, if he could have somehow loved himself to the extent that he loved his band members perhaps he could have found the strength to fight. I believe Kossoff may have felt he was in Rodger’s way due to his addiction, that too caused him pain, he knew Rodgers talent and drive would take him far, he also knew he would not be there to share in it. I think he coveted the association of Fraser and Rodgers at times, making him feel left behind in his darkness drugs took him to a place of loneness and disparity a place where he could not feel the love of those around him. When Andy and Paul R came together and penned songs, it was almost an insult to Kossoff while he surely wanted to see his friends have success I think his heart beat heavy with the thought they would fly without him, Rodgers having a strong sense of his abilities a powerful ego and a willingness to dig down deep and work, demands success and quietly moved into the role of front man, I wholeheartedly believe he loved each and every one of them, he was best mates with Simon, but I truly believe the connection he felt with Paul R was something closer to brotherhood, the two of them seemed to be mirrored souls connected in spirit and in mind. Kossoff was unable to allow his spirit to fly, afraid that he would fail, that he would disappoint, struggled with demons other than addiction, his heart longed for acceptance, and in his knowledge he had let those down he most respected, his mind taunted him. Paul K made efforts to keep his music alive after Free, his most notable work being Molten Gold. It was two years before he could endure live work he then accompanied John Martyn for a brief |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:50 |
A new release this year offers The Best Of Kossoff, a two CD set of most of his work. To end this section on Koss I would like to say I count myself as one of the lucky to have seen him play and to have met him albeit ever so briefly as it were, he was it seemed almost timid very soft spoken and even in his drugged state he was very nice and considerate. ( Thank You Koss - the runaway” |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:51 |
Andy Andy driven by something much more primal, wanted the acknowledgment and the power fame could offer. Andy so young, his talent so enormous, he struggled with the fact he was born in a time of non-acceptance being born of mixed race. Taking on the responsibilities of manhood, but in reality he was a mere child. Without the advantage of being allowed to grow into manhood nurtured and directed. In his mind scared from a world of insensitive reality, idealism soon died. He became obsessed, to prove himself to shove his talent in the face of those that had snubbed him The one he felt most insult from, his absent father. In his reasoning if he could achieve greatness he could show what a mistake it had been for his father to walk away, perhaps Andy would even be allowed the ultimate revenge, he could one day turn his back on the man that had refused him. In 71 he joined Adrian Fisher to form Toby and with Chris Spedding in 72 to form Sharks releasing two albums before they disband he then worked with Frankie Miller and formed The Andy Fraser Band in 75 adding two more releases to his credits. In the end Andy decided to withdraw, severing all ties to the music world and to his old associates. Doing the one thing he resented most in others, retreating. His music once so much a part of him abandoned. |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:52 |
Simon Ahhh Sweet Simon, what’s not to like here? Sexy, good looking, killer smile, Secure in his world, that safe big brother that’s always there when you call. I get the feeling Simon was the level cooler head, he seemed to be the peace maker, the glue that held this fragile group together. But, do not temp fate and push his sweet temperament, he just might put his foot up your bum. Think there is a lot of fire to our Si, slow burning embers that can blister if handled wrong. Si’s first stage presentation was at age 9 or so, in his school choir’s A Christmas Carol. All together now,,, awwwwwwwwwww, bet he was a cute little bugger too. Our bad ass drummer, a choir boy, now that’s a snap I would pay to see, little starched white shirt, tie and knickers. J Simon’s first band was The Maniacs, he then moved to playing along with records in a traveling discotheque, he must have been in his very early teens if you figure his age at the time he joined Free and work back. He met Paul K in 68 who’s band Black Cat Bones just happened to need a drummer, they went onto become best friends. When the two Paul’s decided they wanted to form a band, Simon was the natural choice, hell I think Si just wanted to play, he would show up just cause he freakin loves it, the gravy is, Hey I get paid To Do This! Simon recalls this time fondly, “full of the high hopes, really the stuff of dreams we were just lads out to take over the world” My thoughts on Simon, he is a good guy, he stayed with his friend Kossoff out of devotion, and a longing to help him. He stayed until in his mind he had made every effort to save him. Staying with Kossoff, Tetsu and John after the break in 72 which was a mere shadow of what they once had been, there was one release simply named after the artist involved. Kossoff by this point was basically lost, Si had spent years watching someone he valued slowly destroy himself. This had to be troublesome for Simon, Paul R, and Andy, think for a moment, these were boys that started out together, full of hopes and dreams. Boys, that formed the bonds of family, they tried to rally around their tormented friend, but nothing was to save him. In the end they had to walk away, there is no way that could have been easy for them, they had been through so much together. How long can you watch someone break down at their own hands, each day taking a piece of you with them? There has to be a point in which you say, Enough, I can’t do this any more. You swallow the lump in your throat, learn to deal with the ache in your heart, shed your tears when you are alone, ask yourself a thousand times “Was there something more I could have done?” All the while knowing the answer is no, life must go on, destiny calls, and fate plays her hand. After the break up of the band Si went to Brazil, guess he just needed to find his center, needed to be Free. Of his former band mates Simon has wonderful memories and high praises for each of them, of Koss he recalls, “a vulnerable soul, truly outstanding ability, he took me under his wing and protected me, in the beginning, me being raw and not at all wise in the ways of how things worked, I stayed with him for years, and ended up trying to protect him, but in the end drugs won the battle. Of Andy Simon chuckles, “ A genius, a real prodigy, and at time’s a real pain in the ass, one hell of a bass, most do not know he could also play piano, and drums, he used to drive me crazy, he laughs, bugger would just jump on my kit and start banging, drove me freakin nut’s, I never saw him play guitar and he never did the vocals with Free, except some harmony now and then. Of Paul Rodgers, “He was the intense one, aggressive and moody sometimes, but he can also be very charming, has a great sense of humor, Paul is very wise, and one of the most honest people I know, the best damn singer I |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 14:55 |
His honesty in life, the heart of a lion, and spirit to stand for what he believes is important. His soul, his music, and the joy that is found in simply living, Paul could be happy in life with nothing in his pockets as long as he had his music, I don’t think anything will ever be as important to him as his ability to give his music. Kirke & Rodgers moved beyond the traps, beyond the trials and adversity, they looked ahead to the future. Their strength of character and determination gave them the edge needed to see their dreams fulfilled. How easy would it have been for them to blame the events of the past as a reason to lie down? They had plenty of excuses to fail, but to these gentlemen that was not an option. They strapped on their balls and rose to merit respect. Here we find the answer to the question of predestined verses free will. Yes fate deals the cards, but, we each must make choices in life. To every end there is a beginning, today’s path is not set in stone. open yourself to the energy of life, if you allow yourself to be called out on the strikes you will never step to the plate. Do not be afraid of it, walk your path, reach for your dreams, never walk in someone’s shadow always cast your own. Destiny gives you those dreams, yes I believe there are things we are meant to achieve, we must however discover on our own how to make those dreams come true. We are given the tools by fate, it is our free will, which ones we use. You can withdraw and play the blame game, choose to be weak and you will fail, My reasons for doing this my desire to honor this group for their role in music, and I happen to be keen on their work. First we need to list the replacement players, and while I tend to lean a bit more to the founding members, there are crowning moments as well with the second leg of Free. 1972 brought three artist into the band as members and Snuffy Waldon guest guitarist Tetsu Yamauchi - bass John Bundrick - keyboard Wendell Richardson - guitar Free Releases. Tons Of Sobs - 1968 - Island Records. Hard rock & blues sound, erotic vocals even by today’s standards it is intense and suggestive, this is hard to get but not impossible. Best cut, toss up between I’m A Mover & The Hunter* < fyi this is a remake of Albert Kings. Free - 1969 Island. You notice Simon more in this release, best cuts Women* & I’ll Be Creepin. Fire & Water - 1970 Island. Here we get our beloved All Right Now, this release was their best work, this is where they had defined their sound you can see what each one brought to the table here, Kirkes power on the kit was stepped up, Rogers distinctive vocals sensual and erotically strong, Bold bluesy guitar licks, strong songwriting. Best cuts, All Right Now,* Mr. Big, Heavy Load, Remember, Don’t Say You Love Me** Highway - 1970 - Island The Stealer was suppose to be your grabber here, but my pick will forever stand as Be My Friend with its haunting message it seemed to be an overture pleading for understanding. I’ve sometimes wondered when listening to this one if Rodgers & Fraser had their friend Kossoff in mind when they sat down and penned these words. All I need is a friend, someone to give me a helping hand. I would give all I’ve got, If I were to have someone believe in me. Just to do that, and put me back on track. Yes, I know the rest of the song, and I know it is very sensual asking for love and understanding, but remember, a song is often a mixture of emotions. I Know, I know….. I’m thinking like a women aye. OKAY I’LL STOP!! Sorry Paul, sorry Andy, I won’t do that again, Well… I’ll try not to, how’s that? Live - 1971 - Island. Not long after this r |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:04 |
Paul Rodgers Vocals, guitar, bass, piano, songwriter, drums, producer, This section will run a bit long because of the accomplishments of the artist. Lets start with group work, shall we? The Firm. Paul Rodgers - vocals, guitar acoustic & electric James Patrick Page - guitar - Jan 9,1944 Heston, Middlesex England, Chris Slade - drums - Oct 30, 1946 Tony Franklin - bass. The Firm formed in 1985 by Page X- Led Zeppelin & Rodgers X- Free & They brought in Slade X- Uriah Heep & Manfred Mann, Tony Franklin (BA) is escaping me at this point, (note to self) “self” drink more coffee and return here if brain freeze melts, The Firm was very short lived but did produce two releases, a self titled début release being my pick of the two, led by Rodgers vocals, and one out damn standing drummer. Radioactive & Midnight Moonlight received the most recognition, honestly the only track I raised an eye to was You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling not because it was badly done, Paul has never done anything badly, it just threw me because it is someone else’s big time trademark cover. And while Rodgers has done covers before he as a rule does not do the trademark covers of others. He likes to take one and own it, and that will never happen with a song such as this, but After the second listen you find yourself getting use to it, getting caught in that powerful voice. My personal picks from this one rather goes against the critics. Satisfaction Guaranteed , Someone To Love & Money Can’t Buy This release flows smooth from each track and you find yourself hitting the replay button, breathing a little slower, closing your eyes and following that beautiful voice and that drum beat. Has a kind of enigmatic effect. Other artist involved with this release. Steve Dawson - trumpet Paul Weimar - baritone Willie Garnett - sax Don Weller- sax Sam Brown - backup vocals Helen Chappell - backup vocals Joy Yates - backup vocals Tracks closer Make Or Break Someone To Love*** Together Radioactive* You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling Money Cant Buy*** Satisfaction Guaranteed*** Midnight Moonlight Mean Business The second release with Rodgers delivering the vocals, Chris Slade with that kit steady and true like a pied piper. This one does not rank high on my list and honestly gets little play. I can just read most of your minds right now. You are wondering about Page right? Where are his kudos’ where do I bow down and kiss his ass? NOT GONNA HAPPEN; And Paul did put his bid in for Page to get some ink, my promise to him was this. His ego is plenty big enough, I won’t dog him, out of respect for you, but I wont praise him either, and I will keep my reasons to myself, not that it matters, but Page does owe Paul a small debt of thanks for this Moving right along…… In these two releases they are carried by the vocals and the drummer. The vocals tells the story and Rodgers can tell a story ya’ll, he has that knack for taking even a crappy song and making you go hummm, not bad. This drummer brings out the animal instinct based at your core, gets your heat up and keeps you hot. My pick on this one Cadillac. Tracks. Fortune Hunter Cadillac Live In Peace Tear Down The Walls Dreaming Free To Live Spirit Of Love The firm folded shortly after they toured, for reasons known only to them, clashing ego’s, cough cough Chris Slade went to AC/DC. Page worked solo. Rodgers put out some solo work and then we find him grouping up again. |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:08 |
After the Firm there was. The Law. Rodgers - vocals, piano Kenny Jones - drums Bryan Adams - guitar Chris Rea - guitar There’s not a skipper in the bunch, in all sincerity this is some of Rodgers best work. Raw, sexy, hard and commanding, his voice fiery more erotic than I’ve heard since his Free day’s Good God this man should come with a warning label. It’s a shame there was only one release from these guys, for the life of me I can not understand why it did not receive better billing. Bryan Adams oh my gawd!! Kenny Jones, I mean please, this group of artist flat out kick some bum.To go on would be senseless the lineup speaks volumes. Tracks For A Little Ride** Miss You In A Heartbeat** Stone Cold** Come Save Me **** Laying Down The Law** Nature Of The Beast** Stone** Anything For You** Best Of My Love** Tough Love** Missing You Bad Girl** My picks, the whole damn thing, Willie And The Poor Boys Boys and girls just catch this line up. Rodgers- vocals* Bill Wyman - bass* Charlie Watts - drums* Kenny Jones - drums* Jimmy Page -guitar Andy Fairweather Low Releases Willie And The Poor Boys 1985 Tear It Up Live - 1994 These two are hard to find but once you have them, you wont give them up. Okay way back before he was top dog, back in his pup days, we have The Roadrunners later changed to Wild Flowers this was before 68 and of course Brown Sugar, the outfit he was in just before Free.After Free there was a group known as Peace; Formed Aug 1971 - disband Dec 1971 members included Mick Underwood - Stewart MacDonald. UK based, very hard to find. My picks Zero BC and Like Water. When I ask why he left Peace Paul’s answer was. ‘My concern for Koss brought me back to Free, when Andy came to me with news of Koss’s condition my only thought was “What Can I Do To Help” Andy had thought perhaps if we could reform it may pull Koss through, there was no asking twice, I left Peace and returned to Free. Of course in the end it did not matter, we still lost Koss, I still miss him terribly, I would have given anything to have just been able to have made a difference, but it was not to be, it broke all our hearts we all tried so hard and failed, we all loved him and all felt the sting of loss.’ |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:14 |
Solo work. Cut loose: Produced by Paul Rodgers, all instruments Paul Rodgers, all songs written by Paul Rodgers. Now that’s just showing off wouldn’t you say? Busy bugger wasn’t he? Good gosh the man is a band all by his damn self. Tracks. Fragile Cut loose Live in peace Sweet sensation** Rising sun Boogie mama Morning after the night before** Northwinds Superstar women Talking guitar blues*** Good solid bluesy tracks that do bring thoughts of Free to mind. Electric; Rodgers - vocals, guitar, piano. Jim Copley - drums Tom Keelyside - flutes Jaz Lochrie - bass Geoff Whitehorn - guitar Rodgers shows his knack for finding strong talent to back him. Electric has strong tracks but seems to lack that easy flow from track to track, seems more like he’s working rather than allowing his relaxed easy spirit to dictate. He does rip it up with the first three tracks. Deep Blue - Walking Tall & and one of my all-time favorites Find A Way This CD would be worth buying for that track alone. Tracks Deep blue** Walking tall** Find a way*** China blue Love rains Over you Drifters Freedom Jasmine flower (a song for his daughter) Conquistador a Now Paul Rodgers - vocals, guitar, 12 string, piano. Geoff whitehorn - guitar, backup vocals. Jaz lochrie - bass. Jim Copley - drums. This release flows from track to track smooth and sweet. Rodgers takes complete control with warm sensual vocals, this release is for those nights you want to sip a glass of wine, curl up on the sofa and get the warm fuzzys, remember that lost love, or fall in lust or love if you are prone to that sort of thing. This release has the one song on it that almost makes me believe in love, and trust that is not an easy task. Nights Like This I guess if I had to pick an all time favorite song, it would have to be that one. Tracks. Soul of love** Overloaded Heart of fire Saving Grace All I want is you*** Chasing shadows** Love is all I need** Nights like this**** Shadows of the sun I lost it all**** Holding back the storm*** Paul Rodgers Live (The Loreley Tapes) 7/8/95 Loreley Germany. Something for everyone, this one hauls ass, not a skipper in the bunch here. Rodgers is on fire having a flat out good time and it shows. Only thing wrong with this release is it’s over to soon. Tracks. Little bit of love - Free Be my friend - Free Feel like makin love - Bad Co. Louisiana blues - Muddy Waters Muddy Water blues - Paul Rodgers Rolling stone - Muddy Waters I’m ready - Willie Dixon song writer Wishing well - Free Mr. Big - Free The hunter - Free Can’t get enough - Bad Co. All right now - Free Muddy Waters Blues Rodgers Jeff Beck David Gilmor Buddy Guy Brian May Steve Miller Gary moore Trevor Robin Richie Samborn Neal Schon Brian Setsor Slash There is also a tribute to Hendrix, which is awesome Paul is as well joining in the Hendrix tribute again this year, there are many other works in which I have missed, there was a release for ARMS a charity concert for MS. And there have been releases for movies Cowboy Way comes to mind, and accompaniments with various other artist, such as Buddy Guy, Peter Green & a sweet new release this past Christmas done with Jools Holland in England, “I Told The Truth” Needless to say this mans voice is everywhere, and for good reason. He writes, plays drums, guitar all levels, bass, piano, and uh, I have seen somewhere the ACCORDION? Now if I see the Paul Rodgers Polka, I just don’t think I could stand the strain. Bad Company does the Feel Like Makin Love Polka!! OH MY GAWD!! |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:25 |
Visions of puffy shirts, knickers, red knee socks, tasseled hats and those cute little clogging shoes….. Hum…. Suddenly I have a craving for a frosted mug, some brats with sauerkraut and some apple kuggle??? Okay! How do I get rid of this image, and wipe this silly ass grin off my face? J Of course it would have to be as good or better than Kid Rocks version talk about a slaughter job.. Who may I ask gave the okay for that mess? Damn! I sure hope Paul’s sense of humor is in tact when he reads this, just in case…. I’m sorry honey, you are da bomb baby!! Hot, smochie and sexy!! Awww tight black leather pant’s, mesh muscle shirts, sexy eyes devilish smile, packaged tight and sweet..grrrrrrr Now there’s a vision!!!!!! J Paul say’s Accordion????? (sense of humor indeed intact) Someone has over gifted me, I have not as yet mastered the polka, but if I ever do, I will rock the hell out of it, besides my chest hair would get caught in the thing, and I can’t wear the knickers luv they would not go with my shirts at all” ( aww Shucks) All kidding aside Rodgers has established himself on solid ground. He has made us apart of his rock & roll fantasy, made us feel his passion, his heart. I know I have poked a bit of fun, but he is a big enough man to take a little poke, he is an amazing talent and I love him dearly. I know you are talented hon., BUT THE ACCORDION, sugar that just blows my mind!! There’s that vision again, Quick I need leather!! |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:27 |
Paul Rodgers - Bad Company 1973- 1985 - 1999 - present Free 1968 - 1971 - 1973 Peace 1971 The Firm - 1985 - The Law- 1991 Willie And The Poor Boys 1985 & 1994 Solo work in between Vocals, guitar, piano, bass, drums, songwriter Sweet Simon Simon kirke.Bad Co. 1973 - present Free - 1968 - 1973 Wildlife Ringo Starr’s all star band Solo work starting in 03 Simon has sat in with many others as well Later members Darlin Dave Dave (Bucket) Colwell 1990 - present ASAP - Humble Pie - Samson Jazzy Jaz Jaz Lochrie 2002 - present Paul Rogers solo band. Hey cool breeze don’t forget we need to talk!! Others…… Mel Collins - sax - 1974 - 1982 on and off Steve Price - bass - 1988 -1989 Terry Thomas - guitar & keys - 1988 -1992 Geoff Whitehorn - guitar -1990 - 1992 Paul Cullen - bass- 1990 -1992 Robert Hart - vocals - 1995 -1997 Felix Kirsh - bass - 1990 - 1992 Rather hard getting a bass man to hang aye? Oh yeah yeah, I know I know Brian Howe - vocals, cough, cough Too Freakin Long! UK based but adopted by the US in a heartbeat Bad Company formed Aug 1973. Their début was Newcastle March 8, 1974 began their US tour that same year. Rock stood up and took notice when their first release topped the charts in the UK & U.S placing them at the top of the heap. Arena rock was where they kicked ass, they took the stage no frills or bullshit, and put hard core rock in your face. Music you could actually understand the lyrics too, very bluesy rock that had balls because it was delivered flawlessly. The original members are among the few that have come together and can claim Super-group status. With hits like Feel Like Making Love - Can’t Get Enough - Shooting Star - & BAD COMPANY, one of their best guitar pieces. Rock & Roll Fantasy - Ready For Love - all solid in the books no one can touch these guys, the voice that commanded stardom could not be copied, could not be synthesized out, and would not be forgotten by the fans. 1985 brought the what the hell were they thinking years? I could never figure out why Mick, Boz & Si did not “DUH” Add another guitar, and take on the vocals themselves.Okay yeah, they are not Rodgers BUT…..These guys can sing, and lets face it trying to replace those vocals get real. But, to add Brian freakin Howe, somebody was on cheap damn drugs!This guy was Bad Co. material about like a bull in a ballet, EGADS! This was what I call the DARK DAY’S sorry guy’s, but it sucked.And I refuse to call this gathering Bad Co, BAD IDEA! Was more fitting, and you owe me for a concert ticket…. I left somewhere in the second song and never bought another ticket or release until you came to your senses. And before those of you that liked this jack ass get your knickers in a knot, yes I know what they sold, big hairy deal, they still did Not, any damn way in hell, sound like B.C. He rode in on the coat tails of Paul Rodgers and had it not been for those roads already paved this bum would have been out singing for quarters on a street corner and getting arrested for disturbing the damn peace, singer my ass!!What really chapped my bum was being suckered later, I bought a ticket for what was billed as BAD CO. and it turned out to be this screaming jack ass, drove 200 miles bought this sweet little leather deal skipped out of work early and away we went, and it was this fool, what the hell was that all about? He sure did not run around calling himself Ted Nuget, when he split from him, course Teddy would have kicked his bird dog ass, not the mild mannered type that one, hell he would have found himself on a hunting trip with ol Fred Bear. Okay I’ll stop bitchin, (maybe) Paul will not comment on this subject, maybe he thinks I pretty much covered it? Also he is much nicer than I am, he has that peaceful soul thing tapped, as yet I still tend to fla |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:30 |
Always so serious and seldom allowing his emotions to be seen, except in his songs, to do so would be tantamount to showing weakness, and he is if nothing else a proud and strong man, a bit eccentric by nature, one that carries his scars inside, and there were times when he was cut deeply, when he felt abandoned misunderstood and cast as an outsider that all he could trust was himself, because no one was looking out for him, he had to learn early to defend his beliefs and fight for every ounce of respect. He perhaps took himself much to serious at times and made demands that seemed harsh, but in his heart I think the man always did what he thought was right and good for all, I can not imagine someone with his honesty and strength of character doing otherwise. Paul is an intensely soulful person of deep thought, and that can at times appear to be coolness or impassiveness, I rather think it is his protective shield and strong reserve. Yes he has ego, yes he is cocky and yes he can test every nerve, but hey, can’t we all? And lets be frank, if others give it some thought perhaps they will see they must share some accountability as well for making him take the hard line at times, after all someone had too. Simon is still out there bangin, that sweet smile always present, Good gosh I just love this guy, he’s sooo damn smooch able…. Lives in New York with his wife and 3 teen age girls, all with raging teen hormones, that send him looking for a place to run and duck at times, just your average guy next door type aye? Simon is like that warm welcome friend that always brings a smile to your heart, never has a harsh word for anyone and is always kind in his approach to others, he seems to slip into your heart and you somehow feel better for simply having had the chance to get to know this charming man, and believe me Simon Kirke can charm your socks off, I doubt he has ever met a stranger Simon welcomes you freely into his life. Lay’s his cards upon the table and truly expects you to do the same, his sense of humor is never left behind Simon has been so much help to me in the writing of this book, I love him dearly he is so special. |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:33 |
he is never fake, Simon came from humble beginnings and has never forgotten that, with Simon you feel you can put your feet up and be right at home, he meets you head on, with others I was brushed off to managers or publicists to answer questions and frankly they received very little ink, Simon never refuses that personal touch so I hope that answers why these artist ranked so much attention, it is because they wanted to take part and have people know not only the artist, but the human. I had one artist confront me a bit miffed because Paul and Simon received so much attention, and demanded I make alterations, and that I did , they no longer have a segment in this work. So with that said lets move along shall we? Looking forward to having Si more active solo. Mick was a Fla beach bum for awhile, “go Mick” aint no place like the south to chill out darlin, last I heard he was married and back in England, still hates to fly, likes to putter around in the garden and enjoy his family, still writing, and doing some solo work, but taking it a bit easer these days. Boz & Rick are still out there mixing it up and very much still in our heart. Boz is living in Spain and lovin life, with the love of his life Kathy. |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:40 |
Release’s in order…. I think…. Or at least close …. Maybe…. The Original Bad Co. Bad Company Can’t Get Enough*** Rock Steady*** Ready For Love*** Don’t Let Me Down Bad Company*** The Way I Choose Movin On*** Seagull*** Straight Shooter Good Lovin Gone Bad*** Feel Like Makin Love*** Weep No More Shooting Star*** Deal With The Preacher** Wild Fire Women Anna Call On Me Run With The Pack Live For The Music** Simple Man** Honey Child*** Love Me Somebody*** Silver Blue And Gold*** Young Blood*** Do Right By Your Women* Sweet Little Sister*** Fade Away Burnin Sky Burnin Sky*** Morning Sun Leaving You*** Like Water Knapsack Everything I Need Heartbeat** Peace Of Mind Passing Time Too Bad Man Needs Women Master Of Ceremony Desolation Angels Rock & Roll Fantasy*** Crazy Circles Gone, Gone, Gone** Evil Wind** Early In The Morning Lonely For Your Love** Oh Atlanta Take The Time Rhythm Machine*** She Brings Me Love Rough Diamonds Electric Land* Untie The Knot* Nuthin. On TV Painted Face kick down Ballad Of The Band Cross Country Boy Old Mexico Downhill Ryder Racetrack 10 From 6 Can’t Get Enough*** Feel Like Makin Love*** Run With The Pack** Shooting Star*** Moving On*** Bad Company*** Rock and Roll Fantasy*** Electric Land Ready For Love*** Live For The Music** Anthology Can’t Get Enough Honey Child Rock Steady Run With The Pack Ready For Love Silver Blue & Gold Bad Company Do Right By Your Women Movin On Burning Sky Seagull Heartbeat Superstar Women Too Bad Little Miss Fortune Smokin 45 Good Lovin Gone Bad Rock & Roll Fantasy Feel Like Makin Love Evil Wind Shooting Star Oh Atlanta Deal With The Preacher Rhythm Machine Wild Fire Women Untie The Knot Easy On My Soul Downhill Ryder Whiskey Bottle Tracking Down A Run Away Aint It Good Hammer Of Love Hey Hey This is just a super buy, has all the best can’t find a clinker if you try. Bad Company In Concert Merchants Of Cool Tracks Burning Sky** Can’t Get Enough*** Feel Like Makin Love*** Rock Steady*** Movin On** Deal With The Preacher** Ready For Love*** Rock And Roll Fantasy*** Ticket To Ride*** I Feel Fine*** All Right Now*** Bad Company**** Silver Blue And Gold** Shooting Star** Joe Fabulous*** Saving Grace The enhanced version has Good Lovin Gone Bad*** as a bonus track. All the best and live, what’s not to like? The Joe Fabulous track is a welcome new addition and our boys did the Beatles proud, which Paul has done before with the British Rock Symphony Now hate me if you will, but the above releases are the ones any true B.C. fan consider to be original. Now I will list the reformed groups, and yes I am very aware that some of this work received very high marks, the reasons for which I believe I stated in a most calm manner, cough, cough, I do not mean to imply it did not, and I may have given them more thought except for one thing, they should not, no way, have ever presented themselves as Bad Company, and yes I understand that 99 percent of the group was intact BUT that 1 percent was in fact the core, it was their SOUND!! Think about it…. Would it still have been The Beatles without Paul? Would it be The Stones without Mick? You take that vocalist out of the fusion and try as you might you cannot make it work, and I did adore Robert Hart he was the closest in matching their sound. He deserves high credit, but You remove the heart from anything and it simply will miss its beats.Without Rodgers at the front, this group lost their s |
Bohardy 16.12.2004 15:42 |
Thanks Judy, I suppose that's a start at least. But I'm sure there must be more you can tell us about the man and his work? |
Judy Cain 16.12.2004 15:44 |
Sorry this had to be put in so many post. These are sections of my book The Rhythm Machine Paul Rodgers And Simon Kirke were both wonderful in their help with it. As well I hope this clears up any questions about what kind of artist Paul is. I believe you will all be very pleased and honored to have someone of his talent and charm be a part of your music world. |
Badcowoman 18.12.2004 20:11 |
I've waited to say anything on this topic until some time had passed & some true impressions had been shared & understood. Judy has wonderfully educated you now as to who PR is & what his musical abilities are, his history, his chops. I believe one soon day we will see this man, and purhaps the other members of Bad Co., finally placed in the Rock n Roll hall of Fame. It is far overdue in my humble opinion, but then I am biased here. Look, it's not brain surgery, it's about the music, the music! That music has seen me through some tough, tough moments, and I'm sure it will do so again and I'll bet it has(I know it has) done the same for many, many others. Each of his shows I'm able to make it to, they have common energy, people have a great love of this man & his music. A giving & a getting, and it's awsome to be a part of that. Paul isn't trying to replace freddie, period. This is just a sharing of a love for the music, and I'm sure it will be interesting and exciting next step. Let's all go & have a look eh? Debra |
Matti 18.12.2004 23:47 |
I told my mom that Brian and Roger were going to tour with some guy (I couldn't remember who...) and she didn't really care. And then I remembered and told her it was Paul Rodgers and she freaked out. She loves Bad Company. So now hopefully I can go if they come anywhere near where I live. |
badco1uk 19.12.2004 19:27 |
Hello everyone As you can see from my id Im a Paul Rodgers music fan.After reading quite a number of the Queen fan comments I decided to see how many of you are really ignorant and narrow minded(Im sure Freddie Mercury would not be very proud of you) Why not check out the Paul Rodgers website and Allrightnow.com to find out more about the person that most of you will be going to see perform Queen songs.The calibre and the pedigree of this man is second to none and most of those in the rock fraternity would agree with that Im sure.The bands that he has fronted have sold in excess of 125 million albums spanning over 36 yrs. I have some live material from the mid seventies and have seen him live in the last couple of years and his voice has undoubtly got stronger.Its true to say that he's not the singer he once was.......He's better!!!! What I think everyone has to remember is that THIS IS A JOINT VENTURE!!Paul Rodgers is not the new lead singer with Queen and material from both parties will be played.Please try to be open minded about this event and try to remember that neither Rodgers or the members of Queen have to do this for any other reason than there own enjoyment and bringing pleasure to those open enough to take it for what it is........A celebration of great music. We all love live music and event though the bands we love have come and gone we still like to hear their music and rock on. Gerry |
badco1uk 19.12.2004 19:45 |
Loved your comments and I too have enjoyed both Queen and Bad Co material.Lets hope they promote this as QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS.This will keep the purists happy although I dont know why I should really care. |
deleted user 20.12.2004 12:39 |
Why don't you post on the Paul Rodgers Website - this forum is about queen. |
The Mir@cle 20.12.2004 12:42 |
Don't be so rude Peter... We are allies now. |
Judy Cain 20.12.2004 15:34 |
Was ask to give info on who Paul was because someone did not know his work. Please feel free to visit my site that covers all music. If it can be done I will remove my post, if they insult fans of Queen, that was not the intent. As the artist have joined together in a tour it was thought the fans may blend. I was not a huge Queen fan but did enjoy much of their work, and made a couple of their concerts, they were very much the stage showmen of their time. Again please accept my regrets at having intruded. link Classic Rock & Artist Outreach Music is for the soul. Always Walk in Love....... |